The Jeter Meter: If the Glove Fits Edition

There is no older debate on this site than over Derek Jeter’s defensive ability; we’ve always found him to be solid, despite a somewhat limited range to his left, whereas SF has continually pegged him as somewhere between horrible and mediocre. Which makes us only too happy to point out a recent post on WasWatching by Steve Lombardi (whose fine book is advertised at left) that notes Captain Perfect is now #4 in the AL in defensive win shares at his position. Above Miguel Tejada. Take that for what you will. Meanwhile, our hero is hot, hot, hot:

BA: .315
OBP: .393
OPS: .849
OPS, last 7 days: 1.289
Runs: 100
Messages in YFSF Derek & Stacy love thread: 79 (and counting)
Stalker web boards: 1 (that we know of)

18 comments… add one
  • Holy crap. YF, this little fantasy you have with this man is borderline stalker-ish. How much can you talk about another man before we all question you motives? We are all uaware of Jeter’s numbers, both good and bad (and terrible), and we’ve all agreed that he’s a great player, albeit with his flaws (like every other player…minus AP in St.Louis), so is it really necessary for you to create a thread to remind us how scary your love fest is for him every week?
    I’m not trying to be jerk here, but when you decide to post another thread concerning Jeter’s numbers (even for the week), who he’s dating, what he’s wearing, where he’s eating, his commercials, or any other fact that would probably deem grounds for a restraining order – please spare us.
    It may just be me (althought I doubt it), but countless open threads on Jeter’s greatness only solidifies my point that you feel the need to try and pound his holiness into the rest of us because he does not accomplish the task himself. We’re not biting.

    brad-sf August 29, 2005, 3:34 pm
  • Hmm. Seems like you’re biting. And we’re quite comfortable with our sexuality, thank you very much.

    YF August 29, 2005, 3:38 pm
  • Biting?
    Hardly, YF. While your sexuality may not be in question here, the love-fest is never ending!
    We’ve all agreed he’s good, right? Is there a need to start a new conversation every damn week to update us on the professional or personal escapades of your hero?
    The reason you open these rediculous discussions is because you know you have to. Why can’t you just let your man stand on his own two feet around here?

    brad-sf August 29, 2005, 3:53 pm
  • We’re fans, Brad. Fans. We don’t need to run Jeter’s numbers out every week (more like once a month, but whatever); we don’t need to watch baseball at all. But we do. Because it gives us joy. Simple pleasure. Watching our favorite (and in the past, wrongly maligned) player do well makes us happy. Now we know Sox fans aren’t used to just, well, accepting the sweet sugars of life for what they are; life in RSN has been, historically if not recently, a bitter business. So we understand your difficulty in appreciating what’s happening here. But don’t piss on our parade.

    YF August 29, 2005, 4:09 pm
  • Piss on your parade? Be real, YF. Please don’t compare the delight we all get out of watching baseball to your “simple pleasure”. I love my team. I love to watch them every night. But, that’s where it ends. If I happen to see Varitek walking down the street, I’ll be able to keep my composure – which is a little more than I suspect of you.
    Take it how you want, but it’s just a little weird.

    brad-sf August 29, 2005, 4:19 pm
  • Also, with last night being the 202nd straight Fenway sell-out, and with absolutely no end in sight, RSN has more than proven we “appreciate” everything they have given us. Please spray your generalized comments on some other group of fans because as SF’s, we take a backseat absolutely nobody when it comes to loyalty, pride, and appreciation.

    brad-sf August 29, 2005, 4:24 pm
  • brad, is Jeter still just an “average” short stop at this point in his career? I’m just recounting what you wrote previously.

    Nick August 29, 2005, 4:48 pm
  • Isn’t sellout a relative term? Okay, so Fenway seats 36,000. I don’t see how you can make that statement that because you’ve soldout the past 202 home games, you have “proved you have “appreciated” everything they have given you”. Even the Tampa Bay Devil Rays fans would be showing their “appreciation” if Tropicana Field could sit only 8000.

    YF.In.The.Big.Apple August 29, 2005, 4:55 pm
  • Where to begin…
    202 consecutive sell-outs isn’t that amazing when you have a 35,000-seat stadium. And according to ESPN’s database, the Red Sox’s attendance this year has been 97.2 of capacity; second to the Chicago Cubs (98.4)with their similarly cozy stadium. With all the day games during the week they play, and the fact they aren’t in a pennant race, I think the Cubs fans are showing way more loyalty than Red Sox fans.
    Does attendance even equal loyalty? I’m sure any red sox fan can explain how the extra 15,000 people Yankee Stadium averages above Fenway on a given night are just fair weather morons, but the Yankees are blowing away the Red Sox in home attendance. 50,000 to 35,000.
    Brad, it sounds like you’ve bought into the whole “Red Sox Nation” hype a little too much. There are idiot Red Sox fans who don’t know anything about baseball. There are fair weather Red Sox fans who will stop going to Fenway when the Red Sox aren’t as good. Every team has fans like this; the Red Sox are no different.
    There is no winner to the “our fans are better than yours” debate. And if you think there is, you’re crazy.

    Anonymous August 29, 2005, 5:11 pm
  • Regarding the number of fans in each stadium: it’s modestly irrelevant. That Yankee Stadium draws 15K+ more per game than Fenway is an absurd comparison: the New York Metro area has many millions more possible customers to draw from, so I could easily flip that issue on it’s head.
    As to whether the number of sellouts reflects “loyalty”? Probably not. But it does reflect popularity. And the Red Sox are very, very popular right now.

    SF August 29, 2005, 5:48 pm
  • We’re sorry but we seem to have fallen a little off track here. Let’s give Brad a wee bit of leeway. There is no one here–okay, there are a few people here, but they’re nuts–questioning the rabidity of the Sox fan base, which, for the record, is clearly incredibly rabid, and obviously most appreciative of the recent spoils it has received. No argument there; at least not from this YF. But that was not my point. The point is that the Sox fan is by nature used to defeat, has been trained in such exercise, and henceforth in general can be counted on to have something of a pessimistic, fatalistic attitude toward things great and small—in particular the doings of the Yankee Captain.

    YF August 29, 2005, 5:48 pm
  • YF, I have to disagree with you on one point–Jeter has not been wrongly maligned, at least not regarding his past defensive numbers. But when a mega(over)paid player is still busting his ass and getting results in his early thirties, well I think I speak for both of us when I say we’re proud of that deliciously sexy shortstop.

    tom yf August 29, 2005, 6:01 pm
  • Jeter is actually one of the only Yankee players I respect. Him, Bernie and Jorge to be exact. Anyhow, I thought I would stoke the fire a little here.

    JennyO August 29, 2005, 6:02 pm
  • The only Sox player I ever respected was Carl Everett.

    Nick August 29, 2005, 6:18 pm
  • “The only Sox player I ever respected was Carl Everett.”

    Marcus August 29, 2005, 6:51 pm
  • yes, he is.

    brad-sf August 29, 2005, 7:46 pm
  • Up in Boston, Edgar Renteria and Alex Cora just made a play Derek wishes he had the gray matter to think up, juking Carl Crawford into thinking a popup to Trot Nixon was a double play ball after Crawford left first on a hit and run. Needless to say, he was doubled off first by Trot Nixon and John Olerud. A beautiful play of cerebral ball, with Jeter nowhere in sight, thank goodness. YF would be killing our bandwidth linking to all sorts of stories about it.

    SF August 29, 2005, 9:48 pm
  • SF, you are so funny, the idea that DJ wishes he were like Alex Cora and Edgar Renteria. Even on their best night. You are one funny man. Thanks for the chuckle.

    Bozo August 30, 2005, 8:26 am

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