The Wheels on the Bus Go Falling Off …: Sox-A’s Gamer I

Jon Lester’s on the DL. Carlos Pena is up with the big club. The Sox traded Tim Bausher, no great shakes in AAA to Cincinnati for a reliever, Mike Burns, who compiled an 8.78 ERA in the AAAA-lineup National league.

Kason Gabbard, who impressed us against Seattle the last time the Sox were in dire straits on the West Coast, tries his hand at it again — and maybe hoping for some run support this time. Unlikely, Kason. Sorry.

Comment away — if you dare …

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  • The lineups get sillier and sillier:
    C. Crisp CF
    A. Cora SS
    M. Loretta DH
    K. Youkilis LF
    M. Lowell 3B
    E. Hinske RF
    J. Lopez C
    C. Pena 1B
    D. Pedroia 2B
    No Manny.
    No Papi.
    Alex Cora batting second.
    Mark Loretta batting third.
    Kevin Youkilis batting cleanup.
    I mean, wow.

    Paul SF August 28, 2006, 10:23 pm
  • Or maybe I should say, “Woah,” as in woe.

    Paul SF August 28, 2006, 10:24 pm
  • atleast Cora and Hinske showed up with there gloves tonite. Now if they stop looking at strike 3.

    TJ August 28, 2006, 10:30 pm
  • where’s big papi?

    z118 August 28, 2006, 10:31 pm
  • wasnt feeling well, likely the bug Youk had.

    TJ August 28, 2006, 10:33 pm
  • looks like lowell and hinske flip-flopped in the lineup. Crucial difference, for sure.

    airk August 28, 2006, 10:36 pm
  • A hit!

    airk August 28, 2006, 10:37 pm
  • This is without a doubt the WORST line-up I can remember the Red Sox ever posting that wasn’t maybe a spring training intra-squad game… The Pawtucket club has had more runs on tap than this.

    Anonymous August 28, 2006, 10:47 pm
  • Oh my god, Hinske actually can hit!

    Anonymous August 28, 2006, 10:48 pm
  • It’s really not so much the supporting cast that’s so bad… Any lineup with Lowell Youk Loretta Hinske etc isn’t a bad one, but without your two monsters — or at least one of them — it’s jsut pathetic…

    Paul SF August 28, 2006, 10:49 pm
  • Gabbard on the mound a ground ball to Pedroia with the throw to Carlos Pena for the out at first… Oh my god, IT IS PAWTUCKET!

    Anonymous August 28, 2006, 10:51 pm
  • Pena draws a walk in his first PA with the Sox. Not shabby…

    Paul SF August 28, 2006, 10:52 pm
  • I dunno, d’ya think the Sox brass just said, F**K it we are done, lets just check out the kids!

    Anonymous August 28, 2006, 10:54 pm
  • AAAA (National League) – ha ha, good call

    SoxSpot August 28, 2006, 10:56 pm
  • Geez, they might score here! But wait, if they score then the frikkin floodgates will open for them, guarenteed…

    Anonymous August 28, 2006, 10:58 pm
  • Youk K’s to leave the bases loaded. Won’t get many chances like that tonight.

    airk August 28, 2006, 10:59 pm
  • Yeah, that’s better… sheesh
    Watch the floodgates open anyway

    Anonymous August 28, 2006, 10:59 pm
  • Damn it I hate posting anonimously

    Brian August 28, 2006, 11:01 pm
  • uhhnn didn’t I mention something about those floodgates?

    Anonymous August 28, 2006, 11:06 pm
  • So, okay that right there means we lose, cause without WMP, Manny AND Papi… we have very little to scare people with

    Anonymous August 28, 2006, 11:08 pm
  • Tonight’s lineup made me curious about finding the worst-hitting Sox team in recent years.
    By Jove, I think I found it.

    airk August 28, 2006, 11:08 pm
  • Jay Payton makes it 2-0 white shoes.

    airk August 28, 2006, 11:13 pm
  • I remember the disaster that was 1992

    TJ August 28, 2006, 11:14 pm
  • But airk, wasn’t that during the “dead ball” era? Tom Brunansky .266 sure, but with POWER!

    Anonymous August 28, 2006, 11:14 pm
  • 1992 AL Homerun Leaders
    Gonzalez-TEX 43
    McGwire-OAK 42
    Fielder-DET 35
    Belle-CLE 34
    Carter-TOR 34

    TJ August 28, 2006, 11:18 pm
  • Funny. I was thinking about Bob Zupcic the other day.
    And Tony Fossas was AWESOME that year.

    I'm Bill McNeal August 28, 2006, 11:18 pm
  • watching Zupcic bat filling his cheeks with air was a blast.

    TJ August 28, 2006, 11:20 pm
  • Wasn’t Phil Plantier supposed to be some kind of hot sh!t?

    I'm Bill McNeal August 28, 2006, 11:21 pm
  • So, Jack Clark… That ’92 season wasn’t his finest year, was it

    Anonymous August 28, 2006, 11:23 pm
  • Sure was, hit 34 for San Diego the next season then I think he went into the Witness Protection Program, cause I aint seen him since.

    TJ August 28, 2006, 11:23 pm
  • But wasn’t that the year Clark hit one that went over the Monster, curled tot he left and hit the old Moosehead Beer sign on the other side of Brookline Ave.?

    I'm Bill McNeal August 28, 2006, 11:26 pm
  • I also remember that Mike Brumley’s wife was really hot.

    I'm Bill McNeal August 28, 2006, 11:30 pm
  • Well, if it was the year Jack Clark did that, Then that dinger was a whole 20% of his total.

    Anonymous August 28, 2006, 11:32 pm
  • And I mean, 92 was so bad Wade Boggs has a career year… but it’s a career worst, before being pawned off on the Yankees

    Anonymous August 28, 2006, 11:38 pm
  • Brian, I think you’re posting anonymously again.

    I'm Bill McNeal August 28, 2006, 11:40 pm
  • Yo Bill… feel free to unload anytime your ready :P

    TJ August 28, 2006, 11:41 pm
  • I remember Mike Greenwell hitting a home run that looked like it hit the Citgo sign, but it was just a bird hitting it instead, at the exact same moment the ball cleared the Monster… Made for funny video though… That woulda been around 92…

    Paul SF August 28, 2006, 11:43 pm
  • TJ, I don’t have it in me.
    All I can do tonight is laugh.
    This is just sad.
    I cannot remember being this depressed watching the Red Sox. Ever.
    At least the Patsys won big Saturday night.
    Has anyone read Halberstam’s bio of Belichick? It’s great.

    I'm Bill McNeal August 28, 2006, 11:46 pm
  • Something funny about Brian Corey, he’s this Bronson Arroyo thin as a rail guy, I was at the beauty of a game pitched by Beckett and in BP Coreys dad was down by the wall talking to him Corey’s dad is like 3 Brian Coreys. He’s huge, you just wouldn’t ever suspect it was his kid.

    Brian Mr Anonymous August 28, 2006, 11:50 pm
  • I also wouldn’t suspect he’s a major league pitcher.

    I'm Bill McNeal August 28, 2006, 11:52 pm
  • Now that right there is called getting out of the inning unscathed

    Anonymous August 28, 2006, 11:53 pm
  • Sheesh, did it again

    Brian August 28, 2006, 11:54 pm
  • 1992 was the last time a Sox lineup scored fewer than 4 runs per game (3.70, ahead of only the California Angels. The Opening Day 1992 Sox lineup and season-ending BA:
    Boggs 3b .259
    Reed 2b .247
    Greenwell lf .233
    Burks cf .255
    Plantier rf .246
    Clark dh .210
    Vaughn 1b .234
    Pena c .241
    Rivera ss .215
    Ultimately, Zupcic (.276, team leader) and Brunansky (.246) tplayed more games in the outfield than Burks and Greenwell. Scott Cooper tied Zupcic for the team lead in batting while splitting time between first and third.
    Wow, that team sucked. Although the starting pitching wasn’t bad. Viola threw a one-hitter that year, I think, and Clemens won 18 games with a miniscule ERA. Even John Dopson kept his ERA around 4.00…

    Paul SF August 28, 2006, 11:56 pm
  • Well, no as a matter of fact Bill, to look at him, you might think bat boy… but not Major League pitcher… or anything else for that matter… Major league towel rack?

    Brian August 28, 2006, 11:58 pm
  • Tampa calls up Delman Young.

    I'm Bill McNeal August 28, 2006, 11:59 pm
  • OK, How about some Tom Brady singing a Garth Brooks tune :)
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=K-LwNqEnFwI

    TJ August 29, 2006, 12:00 am
  • This is when we need a guy like Bill Lee.

    I'm Bill McNeal August 29, 2006, 12:00 am
  • nothing like a 1-2-3 inning to turn the momemtum back in our favor. um…

    airk August 29, 2006, 12:00 am
  • Hey didn’t the Yankees have this Schmuck Loaiza? Just one more crap hurler we make look like a dominanting pitcher

    Brian August 29, 2006, 12:01 am
  • Idea: Papelbon to starting rotation ASAP. We have basically 2 reliable pitchers, and one is riding the pine waiting for 9th innings leads that aren’t gonna happen.

    airk August 29, 2006, 12:02 am
  • yea airk, might aswell start stretching his arm out for next season. Not much use as the closer when were not getting any leads to him.

    TJ August 29, 2006, 12:06 am
  • Papelbon thrown into the starting rotation for why? To prepare him for next season? I can’t believe by starting he’ll make any difference to the outcome of this one…

    Brian August 29, 2006, 12:07 am
  • The problem is that he really can’t go much more than two innings right now, maybe an economical three. So you run into the problem of using up your whole bullpen in one game, and the you’re running the risk of hiurting people if things get bad the next day… That’s why spring training is so useful that way…
    It might be worth trying after rosters expand, I guess…

    Paul SF August 29, 2006, 12:08 am
  • yeah, I know zilch about the conditioning aspect of that transition.

    airk August 29, 2006, 12:12 am
  • :O an extra base hit

    TJ August 29, 2006, 12:14 am
  • Pap has 15 saves since May. 19 saves in April-May.

    airk August 29, 2006, 12:14 am
  • I was right, Loaiza was with the Spankees…
    in ’04 of all years and he has an ERA of over 8 for them… Love it…

    Brian August 29, 2006, 12:16 am
  • on a positive note for me, I have Loaiza on my fantasy team, and I was so tempted to bench him thinking he might get lit up. Good call on my part playing him.

    TJ August 29, 2006, 12:19 am
  • The why would be simply the idea of using our best players to fill holes instead of keeping the ace on the bench while we get to watch Revenge of the Gabbards, Part IV.
    I realize it doesn’t make much sense, standings-wise, since in 1 month he’d only make 6 starts anyways. I’m tired and frustrated with the imminent prospect of the Sox finishing at 82-82 or thereabouts.

    airk August 29, 2006, 12:22 am
  • MLB Player Poll
    Worst Manager?
    Frank Robinson….Nationals……17%
    Buck Showalter….Rangers……..15%
    Mike Hargrove…..Mariners……..8%
    Clint Hurdle……Rockies………7%
    Eric Wedge……..White Sox…….6%
    Willie Randolph…Mets…………6%
    Ozzie Guillen…..White Sox…….5%
    Buddy Bell……..Royals……….4%
    Felipe Alou…….Giants……….4%
    Mike Scioscia…..Angels……….3%

    TJ August 29, 2006, 12:23 am
  • Well, I have just read a second publication saying A-Rod is the new K-Rod. Sorry K-Rod in Anaheim, please forward your nickname to NYC :P

    TJ August 29, 2006, 12:25 am
  • Good call alright, but seriously Gabbard vs Loaiza? With this line-up? That was a safe bet, I mean really…

    Brian August 29, 2006, 12:25 am
  • 81-81 i mean

    airk August 29, 2006, 12:26 am
  • damn we have a pitcher besides Paps that has a sub 3.00 era

    TJ August 29, 2006, 12:28 am
  • Geez airk, you think they’ll actually make it to 80 wins?

    Brian August 29, 2006, 12:29 am
  • Loaiza had a great year with the CWS in 2003, going 21-9 w/2.90 ERA. I think he even started the All-Star game. He crapped out in ’04 and got traded to the Yankees. Spent last year with the Gnats.
    He’s been one of those guys who can’t keep it together consistently, but when he’s on, he’s been very good. He’s been very hot in August.

    I'm Bill McNeal August 29, 2006, 12:30 am
  • If Tek is back this weekend which is possible, I think we still have a shot at 90 wins.

    TJ August 29, 2006, 12:31 am
  • TJ, that must be a typo, I’m certain that we have no effective pitchers besides Paps in the pen

    Brian August 29, 2006, 12:31 am
  • nah Brian its accurate the Corey guy in the game now, with his 2 innings tonite he’s gone below 3.00

    TJ August 29, 2006, 12:32 am
  • remaining sked:
    Toronto x4
    White Sox
    KC
    @ baltimore
    @ NYY x4
    Twins
    @ Toronto x4
    Tampa x2
    baltimore

    airk August 29, 2006, 12:33 am
  • oOOoOOoO Youk became OF eligible for Fantasy tonite :) thats great I have him, Teehan and Adrian Gonzalez to split between the 1B and Util slots :)

    TJ August 29, 2006, 12:34 am
  • Anyone catch Mike Adams on WEEI before the game?
    Getting sick of him bagging on Manny.
    Talks like the guy isn’t really hurt, or at least should be playing despite his injury.
    He’s been dogging Manny all year.

    I'm Bill McNeal August 29, 2006, 12:34 am
  • I see 20 wins there, but we need tek behind the plate.

    TJ August 29, 2006, 12:35 am
  • I can’t blame Manny for wanting out of Boston so much. Everyone else can get free passes on being hurt, but god forbid Manny gets hurt.

    TJ August 29, 2006, 12:36 am
  • Bill, to be honest, there have been far too many instances in the past month or so where a far superior line-up than this has made 5 ERA pitchers look like aces of their staffs. THIS line-up? Who can tell if Loaiza is actually having a good game?

    Brian August 29, 2006, 12:36 am
  • Ahh Good pitch Keith.

    TJ August 29, 2006, 12:37 am
  • Fair enough, Brian.
    I’m just pointing out the facts.

    I'm Bill McNeal August 29, 2006, 12:38 am
  • Now THAT’s funny, our first effective reliever besides Pap and of course he’s all done after two.. his replacement Foulke immediately lets the bomb go up to Frank Thomas

    Brian August 29, 2006, 12:39 am
  • Stick a Foulke in him…

    Paul SF August 29, 2006, 12:41 am
  • Wouldn’t 20 wins require a handful of W’s from our Magical Myster 5th starter?
    If we imagine that Schilling and Beckett each have an incredible September, thats 10 wins right there. Where do the others come from?

    airk August 29, 2006, 12:41 am
  • Was that your pun Bill? I love it…

    Paul SF August 29, 2006, 12:41 am
  • Dumb luck, airk. For example, we always beat the Orioles, no matter who’s pitching and no matter who’s hitting… We could put nine Tony Penas on the field — and have him pitch as well — and they would still blow out the Orioles…

    Paul SF August 29, 2006, 12:43 am
  • Well hopefully Wakefield will be back soon. Thats a start.

    TJ August 29, 2006, 12:43 am
  • Think back Sox fans, back to a time in the distant reaches of memory… long ago when we actually had a respectable pitching staff, and Keith Foulke helped guide us to a World Series win… seems like 86 years ago now

    Brian August 29, 2006, 12:45 am
  • Toronto x4…take 2
    White Sox….take 2
    KC………..better fricking take 3 or i’m jumping off the Prudential
    @ baltimore..take 3
    @ NYY x4…..take 2, though how sweet would a Bronx massacre be.
    Twins……..take 1
    @ Toronto x4.take 2
    Tampa x2…..take 2
    baltimore….take 3

    TJ August 29, 2006, 12:45 am
  • All right trivia fans.
    John Valentin was the last Sox player to do what two on-the-field baseball oddities?

    Paul SF August 29, 2006, 12:47 am
  • one is a triple play

    airk August 29, 2006, 12:47 am
  • (which I know from a commercial that runs during sox games)

    airk August 29, 2006, 12:48 am
  • Lets see, was it something that required a personal lubricant?

    Brian August 29, 2006, 12:49 am
  • I hope you’re right, TJ. But nothing’s going to derail my mighty locomotive of pessimism on this night, by gum.

    airk August 29, 2006, 12:49 am
  • Sadly, TJ, I think that’s too optimistic. I say we’re lucky to get one out of each series with Toronto, which could knock us into third. I don’t see us splitting with the Yanks in NY when we couldn’t even take one in Boston. I also don’t see us taking both games from Tampa…
    So I have us at just 17, and that’ assuming we can take 2/3 from Chicago and don’t get swept in any series… Yuck.

    Paul SF August 29, 2006, 12:49 am
  • An unassisted triple play is one — probably the more famous because it’s the rarer of the two feats… (I was listening to Castiglione and Troupiano — or Star, don’t remember which was on the air then — when Val turned that TP. Very cool)…

    Paul SF August 29, 2006, 12:51 am
  • hit for the cycle

    TJ August 29, 2006, 12:52 am
  • On June 6, 1996, he hit for the cycle. He is only one of two players in baseball history to both complete an unassisted triple play and hit for the cycle; the other player to achieve this feat was George Burns.

    TJ August 29, 2006, 12:53 am
  • TJ got it, but something tells me you used the wonder of the Internet to find it…

    Paul SF August 29, 2006, 12:54 am
  • i could’ve sworn Nomar hit for the cycle once. but the interweb never lies.

    airk August 29, 2006, 12:54 am
  • Hard to believe it’s been 10 years since any Sox player hit for the cycle…

    Paul SF August 29, 2006, 12:54 am
  • I was thinking cycle, but couldnt remem,ber if it was before or after Scott Coopers, so I looked at his wikipedia page to confirm.

    TJ August 29, 2006, 12:56 am
  • The Red Sox have been fairly dismal since they got swept in 4 by the Twinkies just before playing AAAA (National League)ball and looking like champs for 12 in a row and 14 of 15 That was the abberation… this is the reality…
    I have a bad feeling that we haven’t actually seen the worst yet

    Brian August 29, 2006, 12:56 am
  • Last time the Sox have gone such a long time between cycles?
    Between Bobby Doerr (1947) and Lou Clinton (1962). In 1944, Doerr and Bob Johnson both hit for the cycle, the only time in Sox history that two players have done it the same season. Doerr is also the only Sox player to hit for the cycle more than once…

    Paul SF August 29, 2006, 12:57 am
  • George Burns, I wonder what Gracie Allen made of that!

    Brian August 29, 2006, 12:57 am
  • Also hard to believe it was only 10 years ago I thought John Valentin was pretty cool.

    airk August 29, 2006, 12:57 am
  • Hey remember when we said getting a healthy Foulke back could stabilize the bullpen?
    That was a funny joke.

    Paul SF August 29, 2006, 12:58 am
  • Foulke has triumphantly returned to his 2005 form.

    airk August 29, 2006, 12:59 am
  • OK Foulke has just made me want to go to bed, Better Luck Tomorrow. Night guys.

    TJ August 29, 2006, 12:59 am
  • I was a huge John Valentin fan. He had an awesome 1995, then got hit in the head in 96 and was never the same. He coulda had a solid career, i think.

    Paul SF August 29, 2006, 1:00 am
  • yeah, this is just too much. Later all.

    airk August 29, 2006, 1:00 am
  • Ok, because the past remains better than the present:
    Name the three Sox pitchers to lead the AL in ERA four times apiece.

    Paul SF August 29, 2006, 1:01 am
  • Good night.

    I'm Bill McNeal August 29, 2006, 1:01 am
  • Everyone flees the horror that is the Boston Red Sox…

    Paul SF August 29, 2006, 1:04 am
  • “Stick a Foulke in him” was mine (but I might have soaked up the idea from some 2005 sports blog).
    Sox appear to be racing toward a .500 finish.
    8 runs in their last 5 games.

    Hudson August 29, 2006, 10:07 am
  • I…watched…part of this game last night. Very intermittently. The first time I checked in after work was when the Sox loaded the bases with 2 out in the 3rd and did squat. The next time it was 2-0. The next time 5-0 (I think). Then I went to bed.
    Stumble, stumble, stumble, grumble, grumble, grumble.
    Please let Ortiz be okay. Please let this year be the necessary evil to the goodness that shall follow. Rebuilding year, rebuilding year, rebuilding year.
    Yuck.

    Devine August 29, 2006, 10:44 am

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