Uh-Oh

  • Lester
  • Matsuzaka
  • Byrd
  • Some guy
  • Some other guy

Yep, that’s our current rotation, now that Clay Buchholz has been sent all the way back to Community College Double-A. Ugh.  The sad thing is that if "some other guy" had been pitching this year instead of Buchholz, the Sox might be in better shape.

25 comments… add one
  • Whoa! Are the White Sox and Twins going to make it to the post-season. Imagine that.

    Nick-YF August 21, 2008, 12:02 pm
  • The good news is that Lester has gone 7+ innings in 11 of his last 12 games. I have a fantasy in my head that Lester will win his remaining 8 games (he should have 8 more if he pitches every 5 days, according to the schedule) and win the Cy Young. He’s 9-1 since June, so it’s not that unreasonable of a dream!

    Atheose August 21, 2008, 12:09 pm
  • the sox (I believe) are 3-12 thats 3 AND 12 when Buchholtz started. Yikes.
    I don’t think Lester has a chance at the CY – the folks who start fast I think have a better chance (more buzz, and since it’s media voting, that’s all that matters). Although, he, IMO, is one of the best pitchers in the league.

    dw (sf) August 21, 2008, 12:11 pm
  • Isn’t it a little early to write Beckett out of the rotation, or am I behind the news on some scary prognosis for him? Having two mystery men pitch this weekend is no fun to be sure, but that isn’t the same as being down to three pitchers and two other dudes.

    FenSheaParkway August 21, 2008, 12:14 pm
  • And Matsuzaka is lucky to finish six. The Sox are in a tough spot right now.

    SF August 21, 2008, 12:14 pm
  • Matsuzaka’s season deserves a whole thread, I think. What a tight-rope he’s walked this season. His walk-rate is insane.
    What’s the prognosis on Beckett? Last I heard he woke up with his hand tingling or something to that effect. Do they think it has anything to do with why he was bad in his last outing?

    Nick-YF August 21, 2008, 12:17 pm
  • On the other hand, when Wakes and Bex get back, Boston has a damn fine rotation. The question is whether they lose too much ground in the meantime…
    Thought I saw a report that TWak (heh) is not far off.

    Hudson August 21, 2008, 12:43 pm
  • They won’t know on Beckett until he throws on Friday. That sort of tingling is usually a nerve in the elbow which probably isn’t good.

    dw (sf) August 21, 2008, 1:12 pm
  • The one bit of real optimism I have in terms of getting the wild card is that the Twins play something like 2/3 of their remaining games on the road (13 home, 24 away). I think Chicago takes the division and Boston limps into the Wild Card, but I don’t expect much out of us in the postseason unless Beckett is a) healthy and b) Postseason Beckett. If he is, we’ve got a shot against anyone if we throw out Beckett and Lester.
    Unfortunately, I don’t have too much confidence in that result.

    Micah-SF August 21, 2008, 1:38 pm
  • wow.
    I guess Beckett is all done or something. Maybe, it’s possbile he just had some kind of weird feeling in his arm that isn’t anything.
    I dunno. I guess I’ll jump off the bridge too.

    Brad August 21, 2008, 2:21 pm
  • And I was still under the impression that Boston had six more games with TB, right? I mean, it is a possibility that Boston could win four or five of those.

    Brad August 21, 2008, 2:26 pm
  • But I do agree on the some other guy.
    Hopefully that guy will be pitching here next year. Sheets. Burnett. Either one, and I’m completely happy.
    Say no to CC.

    Brad August 21, 2008, 2:28 pm
  • This isn’t chicken little-ing, Brad. Beckett is out of action right now, hence the use of the term “currently” in my original post.
    Are we supposed to believe that Wakefield and Beckett being hurt while Buchholz underachieved was/is a good thing? I don’t understand why this isn’t cause for (reasonable) concern. All I can think of when we critics are lambasted for being bridge-jumpers is that the lambasters sound like Kevin Bacon at the end of Animal House.

    SF August 21, 2008, 2:32 pm
  • Brad, I need you to explain here…You don’t want the workhorse, but instead you want the 2 injury prone stars? I need details. (Keep in mind I love Sheets, just don’t want to invest 75 million in a guy who pitches 200 innings about as often as Cano hustles to 1st)

    John - YF August 21, 2008, 2:36 pm
  • “And I was still under the impression that Boston had six more games with TB, right? I mean, it is a possibility that Boston could win four or five of those.”
    They could also lose 4 of 5 of those no?

    Sam-YF August 21, 2008, 2:51 pm
  • No fear here, just gotta roll with what we’ve got and hope it works out. Nothing to do about it; live in hope or despair as it suits your temperament (me, I like to alternate back and forth–emotional yo-yo style).
    Sam…well, yeah, but if that happens the status quo is maintained, so who cares about that possible outcome?

    Devine August 21, 2008, 2:54 pm
  • We can’t possibly lose today, I know that!

    SF August 21, 2008, 2:59 pm
  • as an aside .. this is kind of cool
    http://www.tangotiger.net/scouting/

    dw (sf) August 21, 2008, 3:28 pm
  • John, there’s nothing really to back up the way I feel, but I think CC is going to, at some point, pay the price for being abused this year. I’m not saying that he’s sure to be injured, but I just think that the buyer will be the last person to know what this year (and last) is doing to his arm. The Brewers are absolutely abusing him right now. I guess his playoffs, if there, will show a little more as to the wear and tear.
    Plus, an article I was reading says that he loves California, and has even started building a mansion there: My guess is LAA, so I’d rather not even get in the bidding war for a guy that I’m not in love with anyhow.
    I’ll be happy if he goes elsewhere.
    Sheets and Burnett intrigue me more. I think Burnett is a perfect example of a guy who has never had any reason whatsoever to pitch with a bandaid. Much like Beckett prer-Boston, he’s never had the desire or reason to pitch through any of those little nagging injuries that cause him to sit.
    And Sheets, well he’s just nasty, and in my opinion, a better pitcher than both of the other two.
    Plus, I just don’t like CC as much as some people.
    SF – I wasn’t getting on you, man. I’m just not that worried about Beckett right now. Not until I hear something other than a lame brained excuse for why he had a bad outing. It reeks of the DB getting burned and coming up with a bum hamstring to cover for it. Has anyone on this site EVER felt tingling in your arm after sleeping on it wrong? I mean, I’ve felt the tingle for a few minutes or two while the blood rushed back in, but never ever all day long, and I’ve never done pre-game warm ups for a major league bump.
    Yes, Sam. It’s possible they lose those games, but that’s why they play them…what good does it do for me to worry about it before it even happens? They could win, they could lose, but I’m not going to forcast a dark cloud before it even happens.

    Brad August 21, 2008, 3:46 pm
  • Edit:
    I think Sheets is a better pitcher. I think Burnett has more talent on the bump than anyone in baseball right now. The total package of things he can do is unlimited. Fastball is one of the best, if not the best in baseball. Breaking stuff is just as good. He’s a freak of nature.

    Brad August 21, 2008, 3:48 pm
  • Plus,
    I just like the idea of having Beckett and Burnett and Lester. I just don’t think CC would gel too well with the current staff.
    Just my opinion though.

    Brad August 21, 2008, 3:52 pm
  • some guy should = pauley (14-4 sub 4.00 era at pawtucket)
    some other guy should = bard (4-1 2.11 era at portland)
    i was out at the lancaster jethawks game the other nite and was supper impressed with mike jones. he’s a horse (a very sam horn like 6-3 260). made a couple plays at first that a man of his size has no business making. call me a prospect hugger.

    sf rod August 21, 2008, 4:17 pm
  • Don’t get me wrong B-Rad I think Sheets is nasty, I am just worry about giving him the $ he’s going to command and then him going the semi-Pavano route.
    As for CC, I am not a huge fan, but I do really like to win. Of the FA SP’s of 09 I think he gives us (Yankees) the best shot next season and in the near future. He might very well breakdown, Ron Shandler of HQ has been calling for it for years, but who knows.
    AJ is an extraordinary talent. 95+ with a nasty curve. You may very well be correct when you say he has had no reason to pitch with a bandaid.
    Truth be told the Yankees need one of them and really it’s going to come down to the length of the contract and the amount that will win me over. After Gil Meche went and screwed up the market there is no telling what these 3 could ask for.
    As always B-Rad, it’s a pleasure have a conversation with you.

    John - YF August 21, 2008, 5:18 pm
  • Sometimes I think Brad is the sanest one here. Sometimes I think Brad is the craziest one here.
    The off-days help the Sox here. They can skip spots and avoid the replacing-Buchholz question until Wakefield is ready to come back, which should be next week. Essentially, the Sox rotation right now is just a four-man rotation, thanks to the confluence of the off-days. A stroke of luck there.

    Paul SF August 21, 2008, 11:13 pm
  • hahahaha.
    Nice, Paul. That was a very nice thing to say.
    Nice, Paul. I’ll be in the bushes.
    :)

    Brad August 22, 2008, 9:20 am

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