Bill Chuck in the NYT about The Day the Yankees (Yawn) Acquired Enos Slaughter.
by attackgerbil on December 9, 2010 at 1:29 pm in
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According to Edes, the Red Sox have made an official offer to Russel Martin.
Brad December 9, 2010 at 3:36 pm
Love Petty…can you post “Mary Jane’s Last Dance”??? ;)
I am really getting impatient with Cliff’s wife…
krueg December 9, 2010 at 4:37 pm
PS this place is blowing up by the way…i don’t know if I liked it better when it was just brad, dc, IH, Ath and AG??? (not really)
krueg December 9, 2010 at 4:38 pm
krueg, just saw petty a couple months ago in tampa, or maybe it was st. pete…same thing…awesome….my kid got me the tickets…if you like petty, you had to be there…one of my alltime favorite concerts…like the yankees, he won’t back down…
dc December 9, 2010 at 7:47 pm
Brutal Petty and Tampa story…
I had tickets for Petty and the Black Crows at the Amphitheatre. (love that place by the way, it was like 15 minutes from my house) Long story short…it was over the summer and the weather was horrible all day, thunderstorms, so we decide to not go because we had lawn seats.
Rain stopped an hour before the show.
Still miserable about it.
krueg December 9, 2010 at 7:54 pm
…but not half as miserable as I will be if Cliff doesn’t get it together and sign on the dotted line.
krueg December 9, 2010 at 7:55 pm
dude, the nite after petty i saw the yankees at tampa…they lost but it was a nailbiter…my kid’s cool…it’s all good…she’s already talking about tickets for next year…i’m raising her right…haha
dc December 9, 2010 at 7:57 pm
There is no other way…too let her become a fan of another team is child abuse!!! ;)
krueg December 9, 2010 at 10:48 pm
tick tock tick tock tick tock..
What is the hold up here? Nolan and his cronies must be making this pretty interesting in Lee’s eyes.
Brad December 10, 2010 at 9:22 am
or confusing…i read somewhere that the yanks offer of a 7th year really threw the rangers a curve ball…now their ownership is involved, perhaps overreacting, and presented lee with a menu of $ and year options…his agent’s probably wading through all that now, while the yankees lurk in the shadows…ryan apparently went on record as saying the 7th year would hurt the rangers chances…
dc December 10, 2010 at 9:27 am
we’ll soon find out if the lure of more money is stronger than the lure of pleasing his wife, staying closer to home, and building on the success the rangers had last season…the yanks have already offerred 2 more years and probably more money, although ryan said that the rangers were prepared to go to a 6th year…
dc December 10, 2010 at 9:31 am
and building on the success the rangers had last season
Or going to a team that may likely offer more money, won a championship just two seasons ago, is a perennial contender every year, and has a stable ownership with tremendous resources. Remember, Lee is 32. This is probably his last contract. He wants to win a championship. If I were him and I had to decide where to go I’d do two things – talk to my family about how to adapt to a new city (they’ve done this a lot), promise them stability no matter where it was (in other words, make a NTC a non-negotiable aspect of the deal), and go to the team that has the best chance of winning over the next 5-7 years.
To me that means the Yankees. No-brainer to me, in a baseball vacuum. And from a quality-of-life standpoint there are many options: they can live where they want during the season – any neighborhood, any suburb, anywhere. And there are a lot of good ones. They don’t have to shack up in Hell’s Kitchen above a Bodega, right?
Unclear answer: Realizing how difficult it is to be away from family, if his wife and kids can’t bear to move again and he can’t bear to be away from them, then that’s a whole other dynamic. I don’t sense from his history that this would be a dealbreaker. But from a straight “best chance to win” it’s the Yankees, hands down. And more money, probably.
SF December 10, 2010 at 9:39 am
“…They don’t have to shack up in Hell’s Kitchen above a Bodega, right?…”
haha…yeah, you’re right sf…nyc has some awesome suburbs…and he will certainly be able to afford a serviceable abode for his family not too far away from his work…i’m fairly certain the yankee fans will stop spitting on his wife if he signs with them…he’ll be reunited with his buddy cc, and leigh tex can show her the best places to shop for bargains on 5th ave….and you got a good point about the chances to win and probably the money being better with ny…we’ll see…
dc December 10, 2010 at 9:59 am
In a baseball vacuum, I agree 100% with SF: you have to go to the Yankees. They’re always contenders, and if Lee wants a championship they’re his best chance.
Atheose - SF December 10, 2010 at 10:47 am
I understand what you’re saying, but from a personal standpoing (I’m clearly not in this situation), but I would leave New England in a heartbeat to live out west.
Not that I don’t like New England, I just grew up in Colorado, and there is nothing better, imo.
Sometimes, it really is about the man, though rarely.
I would take a 25K pay cut in a minute to live in Idaho, Colorado, New Mexico, or Montana as long as it didn’t hurt my way of life.
In his case, these two offers are way beyond his “way of life” concerns.
I’m hoping he is the rare one, but I highly, highly doubt it.
Brad December 10, 2010 at 11:33 am
What if you had $25 million a season…couldn’t you buy a county in CO to live in over the offseason? :)
krueg December 10, 2010 at 11:51 am
I get what you’re saying, Krueg. I guess to anyone who doesn’t like the city, it’s hard to explain, but honestly, some people just don’t like the city at all.
I purposely drive through Pennsylvania on my way to some of my family’s place just to avoid NYC. Upstate is nice, however.
But, I’m that guy: the further you can remove me from a city, it’s noises, stenches, and garbage, the better.
Brad December 10, 2010 at 11:58 am
Isn’t there also, potentially, pressure from the MLBPA, for Lee to do as well as he can, to set the bar as high as possible for his fellow union members?
SF December 10, 2010 at 12:01 pm
It’s one of the reasons I don’t go to games that much: I hate Boston, it’s absurdly rude drivers and horrible roads and bullshit prices more than you could ever imagine. Same goes for NY or any other major city.
Some guys just don’t like it. Not a flaw, just a preference.
But like you say, this will probably not be the determining factor. Plus, Lee even if Lee wanted to stay out West for less, the PA is going to put a lot of pressure on him to take the NY deal (ARod) anyhow, so this is all probably not worth talking about.
Brad December 10, 2010 at 12:01 pm
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