Will A-Rod Get The Bonds Treatment?

I agree. I think they stop pitching to him altogether and put the onus on those after him in that lineup. Why they’re still pitching to him at all is amazing to me.
The good news is that when they win, the Phillies have nearly a week to cool off from this pace they’re on now (Colorado 2007).

DC, I think it’s because the Angels and other teams know that the Yankees don’t have Bengie Molina and Aaron Rowand batting 5 and 6. No disrespect to those players of course. The Yankees lineup is looooong and to pitch around one player could come back and haunt them. Granted, Fuentes should have thrown him anything late in the game though.

Now you have to remember that Bonds did have a very solid JT Snow, an Amazing Jeff Kent (I think he hit 333 with 39 HRs), a healthy and very good Ellis Burks. Even Rich Aurilia was pretty decent that year.
Either way, Bonds was intentionally walked with the bases loaded that year.

Good point, but I think length has something to do with it as well. You start pitching around guys in this lineup and what could have been 1-0 is now 4-0.

I’m surprised he got as much as he did to hit in Game 3 as well (and agree with everyone in the world that the 0-2 pitch in the 9th of Game 2 was inexcusable…I actually thoguht the first two pitches of that AB were inexcusable too).
Did anyone else hear on ESPN last night that A-Rod has not had a single swing-and-miss in these last two games in Anaheim? He is LOCKED IN.
If the Yanks do indeed move past LA, their line-up will have to continue what they only really started in game 2 of the ALCS – i.e. getting consistent production from guys not named Derek, Alex, or Hideki. The Phils are getting it up and down theirs

Hudson strikes again…

“…Considering how rich ARod got while juicing, I’d say it’s a small price for him to pay….”
yep, along with ortiz, manny, clemens, pettitte, bonds, blah, blah, blah….
in the meantime, even though mlb seems to be in on the conspiracy, rumors continue to swell from meantown, that mo’s post season heroics ain’t worth spit…

This site has gotten a little nasty in the last week or so…hmmmmm…I wonder why???
“in the meantime, even though mlb seems to be in on the conspiracy, rumors continue to swell from meantown, that mo’s post season heroics ain’t worth spit…”
Gotta love people like this…if I repeat a lie enough times to enough people, it will become the truth. I think perhaps Karl Rove is leading this charge??? ;)

i was just messing around with the silliness of the story krueg…i expect that once i let it go, it will die a quick and quiet death…on the other hand, spit on your head IH…i hear that the enzymes in saliva will make your hair grow, or maybe it’s you’ll grow nipples on the top of your head, something like that…actually, the hair thing is further proof that mo doesn’t spit…seen the top of his head lately?…used to be you could only get a shine like that with lemon pledge…

Very much with you SF on the lower financial and morning-preparation-hassle costs that come with baldness. Big fan of it actually. Walking in the rain without an umbrella – that’s another thing.

Surprising especially that the Angels haven’t done this yet considering what they did when David Ortiz was red hot in 2007.
Ortiz in those three games went 5 for 7 with six walks for a nifty .846 on-base percentage. He went two for three with a two-run homer and a walk in Game 1, then came to the plate five times in Game 2, and was walked four of those times, twice intentionally. Of course, after that last walk Manny Ramirez came up and ended the game. Oops.

Thus far, the Yankees are getting exactly what they paid for – a lot of victories. The judgment comes in the next week or so.

THERE’S B-RAD!!! I was wondering when you were going to make a remark…
SURPRISE!!!! You brought up payroll…you are so tired bro. Sox didn’t “buy” the players that won them their titles, huh? Manny, Ortiz, Beckett (trade but had to take on Lowell’s salary so bought)…
Come on bro. Let it go already?
Or should we start talking about your two * titles now as well…since you and Hudson can’t seem to shut up about $$$ and steroids?
“Once identified as a user, such talk will never go away, fairly or not. Considering how rich ARod got while juicing, I’d say it’s a small price for him to pay.”
Cool, so hence forth whenever you guys bring up 2004 or 2007, I will be sure to bring up the *…works both ways brother.

“Or does every other baseball team pay their players with a pat on the back and a handshake”
This made me laugh Andrew. Thank you.
Look, it is next to impossible for (SOME) fans of whichever of our two respective teams is on the bottom of the rivalry’s bi-polar power struggle to resist taking potshots (money, steroids, park effects, frequency of champiosnhips “bought”, infrequency of championships won, etc.).
Honestly, to all the SFs who come here regularly, I would prefer the Yankees to be playing Boston right now – in part because it would make this site a (good-natured) rhetorical war-zone.
But to be frank, there is quite literally nothing anyone could say right now that would make me feel even the slightest bit ashamed or less excited by this Yankee team and its success to-date. As John-YF said months ago, they have just been a lot of fun to watch – full of personality and late-inning drama, new players both young (Gardner, Cervelli, Robertson) and experienced (CC, Tex, AJ, Swisher) that have each added substantially to both the team’s performance and personality. (OK, Teixeira hasn’t added a whole ot of personality, but definitely performance). Add in the (healthy!!) old guard of Jeter, Mo, Pettitte, and Posada and I couldn’t be more into this team.
When an sf says “the jury’s out”, “they haven’t don sh*t yet”, etc. it’s clearly because the success of the Yankees is painful for him/her to observe and he/she hopes it will come to an end shy of a championship title. I get it. And I might very well have said and felt the same things in recent years when the Sox had the upper hand in the rivalry.
But honestly, while I’ll be disappointed if the Yankees don’t win it all (much moreso if they blow it vs. LA being up 3-1 than if they lose to a great Phillies team), it won’t take away the fact that I’ve genuinely enjoyed the ’09 team (and gone to many more games as a result) than any Yankee team in years. And it’s not just about winning because those were winning teams too.
If you are among the few who want to take potshots, by all means go ahead i guess. But note that the regular SFs here abstain. And know that A. potshots won’t change what I or many YFs feel about this team; B. they won’t change the respective places of the Yanks and Sox this year (which could just as easily reverse next year); and C. it is really silly to initiate a nasty back-and-forth with YFs because nothing (even an ALCS collapse vs. LA!) will change point B.

Another interesting contrast to me: Which player defines this Yankees team? Even as they’re there, it’s not the old guard. And it’s not the new guys. And it’s not the superstars. In an interesting loop back onto the 96-01 dynasty, it’s about the team, not any one individual player. That’s what makes them so likeable to me. They have at least four Hall of Famers on this team and yet none stands apart in the limelight. There’s no head case. It’s just a very enjoyable bunch to watch even as the results make it that much easier.
Awesome.

JJ: I am certain that SFs are into several of their players. If Youkilis or Beckett, or Pedroia, or Lester played for the Yankees I’m sure we would be very into them.
As for the Yankee team, while I agree that it hasn’t been about one or two guys all year (incredibly balanced line-up, deep bullpen, and solid starting 3 (if not 4…and definitely not 5), but in October it has been very much about a couple guys and I am hoping that they get back to the former because I think they’ll need to vs. Philly – not to mention to finish off LA.

Wowsa.
Internet tough guy. I didn’t bring up the payroll at all, jackass. I simply said that, to date, the Yankees have gotten what they paid for – a lot of victories. How does that have anything at all to do with payroll? Did they pay the players to come – yes. Did they win a lot – yes. Where is the problem in that statement?
And stop writing my name like that. I don’t come on here and butcher up your name at all, so cut the shit with the backhanded “just playing around” shit.

It’s easy to talk shit behind a keyboard, huh?

Well my little step-in seems to be late. We’re now into d-bags and virtual-fight-picking. Please guys. Please. Please?

“You hate me, I hate you. Nothing more needs to be said, agreed?”
Heartwarming.
Though probably the best – or only feasible – solution at this point.

Agreed.

Right on – If it works out, then fine. If they lose, they still had a great season. However, I really hope they don’t lose. I really hope they win it all. I can’t imagine playing this team next year if they lose this year.
The above comment has everything to do with payroll.:)

That’s fine. It’s been a hot second since I’ve had any fun lately anyhow. If it weren’t for my Broncos, sports would just downright suck right now.

We worked it out, and found a solution.
I’ve been here pretty regularly for almost 5 years now, and that MAY be the second time I’ve ever had a problem with anyone. dc and I had a riff three or four years ago, which we settled and get along fine, and now this. Hardly “banning” material.
I’m sorry if I offended anyone by going outside the lines.

Well, this is also a fight among the kids. The mods are fine playing the adult just so long as no one questions their own childishness.

Smoke and Mirrors Brad.
Okay, see. Now John and I have serious issue too, and I know where to find him! haha.
Come on, bud. As long as Orton doesn’t lose the games, they’re going to be tough to beat. He just has too many tools to play with. This isn’t Chicago, where he needed to be a star. He just needs to be smart, the team will do the rest.
And, my childishness can alwasys be questioned as well. I said I was sorry, Rob. What more do you want, bud?

I feel the same way IH. Let anyone say anyone say anything so long as there’s an assumption that anything can be said. At the core we should be adults and so be able to handle mere words.
Problem is, the scope of the debate is limited in a knee-jerk way then the TOS are used as convenient cudgel. Look at yesterday. I had a complaint but instead of addressing that head on, some of your co-mods shut it off because they’re uncomfortable with the criticism of “them”- timely or not. That’s obviously not what happened here, to your credit.
Quite honestly though, hate is a very strong word when all you guys really hate are each other’s passionate fandom. But we knew that already. That’s the point of the site and Brad and krueg are very far from alone. I’ve grown to “detest” Paul and Andy even as I know I could easy break bread with either. Their childishness is the failure to put that irrational fandom aside to see the interaction here for what they are – YFSF.

Your ability to persevere through such clearly biased and targeted assaults on your character is inspiring Rob. The mods here let guys like brad and krueg off the hook but somehow just have it in for you. And for reasons having nothing to do with your behavior. I don’t know how you do it man but it is a clarion call to the rest of us to keep our eyes on the prize. Even if the prize is rather pointless.
It’s seriously unfortunate that the Nobel Committee didn’t hear about your long-suffering existence here before they gave the peace prize to Obama.
Someone launch the YFSF-Oslo chapter!
Nick?!?

I feel like Popeye right before he eats the spinach…but I’ll just continue to ignore.
Brad, the Broncos are in quite possibly the worst division in football…so I guess to some degree you’re right!

They’ve been pitching around him as often as possible and that will continue tonight.