Yankees Lose To U.C.L.A 1-0!

Well not really.  But with the way the Yankees are playing right now it’s most certainly possible.  The real story is that the Yankees 2008 first round pick, Gerrit Cole, has decided to attend U.C.L.A instead of playing for his favorite team.  This according to Tyler KepnerPete Abe also weighs in "Cole was said before the draft to be immature. That he blew off a
conference call the day of the draft to go golfing seemed like further
evidence of that."  According to Pete Abe, the Yankees will pick up a second 2009 first round pick if Cole officially decides to attend U.C.L.A.   Cole is a right handed pitcher from  California who according to Kepner "throws 98 miles an hour with a hard slider and changeup."

Everything seems to be coming up roses these days in Yankeeland. 

42 comments… add one
  • What a douche…screw ’em. Let his ass rot in Pittsburgh or Cincinnati. I hate priviledged little piss-pot athletes…now if he just wanted to go to college, cool, but as leverage, fuck off…

    krueg August 15, 2008, 2:47 pm
  • Krueg, don’t beat around the bush, tell us how you really feel?

    LocklandSF August 15, 2008, 3:05 pm
  • Meanwhile, the NY Post reports the Yankees are deciding whether or not Joba should be returned to the bullpen once he’s healthy enough to pitch.

    Paul SF August 15, 2008, 3:07 pm
  • Melky sent down and Sexson cut?

    John - YF August 15, 2008, 3:14 pm
  • Its not clear to me if the Joba to the pen thing is for this year only or long term. I think its smart to keep him in the pen for this season only to get him a few more innings but I really hope they arent worried enough about his health to keep him there long term.
    As for Melky, this should have been done a while ago. He has really been an anchor on this team for months now.
    Sexson, see ya, thanks for the grand slam.

    Sam-YF August 15, 2008, 3:21 pm
  • Cant say Im the least bit upset to see either go. But Cody Ransom? Uggh.

    John - YF August 15, 2008, 3:24 pm
  • John- Cody Ransom is gonna turn around the yankees season. Watch out Sox, Rays, and Halos…

    Sam-YF August 15, 2008, 3:27 pm
  • Turning point!

    Paul SF August 15, 2008, 3:28 pm
  • We can only hope Sam!

    John - YF August 15, 2008, 3:29 pm
  • My god! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9b8p610fBA
    Four minute mark, it’s absurd.

    LocklandSF August 15, 2008, 3:37 pm
  • I guess you don’t rush Austin Jackson at this point, but I can’t wait until he comes up.

    Nick-YF August 15, 2008, 3:53 pm
  • Lockland, that’s just Chad being Chad.
    Nick, it’s funny you say that. I just sent a text to a friend of mine to let him know about Melky and Big Sexy. He brought up AJax as well. My answer…the Yankees will wait until they are 12-13 games out before making that move.

    John - YF August 15, 2008, 3:56 pm
  • Did Cole say why he is going to college? Pete Abe gives him no room, I find this verging on deplorably judgmental. What if Cole wants to experience college? What if money isn’t his first priority at this point? Abraham himself alludes to the fact that Boras may not be running the show, typically when Boras is running the show he is demonized, so now the kid and his father are demonized because the AREN’T letting Boras call the shots?
    And the kid blowing off a conference call to go golfing may not be a sign of immaturity, but rather a pretty clear indication that he wasn’t interested in the draft or its results. Caveat emptor.
    Without further information this is more attack journalism from Abraham, who seems to have a special talent for this when he so chooses.

    SF August 15, 2008, 4:00 pm
  • I agree, SF. You could even argue that this decision is a mature one.

    Nick-YF August 15, 2008, 4:01 pm
  • George King, Pete Abe and Tyler Kepner all have similar takes on this kid, but according to King the father is running the show. I do agree that Pete Abe is a little hard on him, the kid much just want to be a Bruin. Who knows? In one of the stories I am fairly certain they said this is not a leverage move or a move to make more money. Who knows.

    John - YF August 15, 2008, 4:03 pm
  • related to that last point, apparently Josh Vitters said the same things last season, only to sign at the last second. So maybe this is just a bluff? Hopefully?

    Nick-YF August 15, 2008, 4:05 pm
  • I would think having a few millions in the bank is a better insurance than college. Though he probably can’t get in UCLA after.. but still!

    Lar August 15, 2008, 4:05 pm
  • In one of the stories I am fairly certain they said this is not a leverage move or a move to make more money. Who knows.
    If it is a leverage move and he gets what he wants, the Abraham’s point about not “leaving it to the experts” is mistaken. He will have done exactly that, and if he gets more and agrees to join the Yankees he will have played this well. But if this isn’t a ploy, and if he keeps his word and goes to college in spite of the millions being thrown at him, maybe that should just be chalked up to a kid wanting to experience college and college baseball, despite the money. And if he walks away from the Yankees and their cash despite really wanting to play for them and against the instructions of Boras and his father, then that is an issue between the kid and his advisors. I don’t think it is fair to malign this kid, who is 18 years old, as a f*ckup, which is what some people are doing. He may be a complete a**hole, I have no idea, but the tenor of the commentary, especially from Abraham, has a personal quality that I don’t like. Does he even know the kid?

    SF August 15, 2008, 4:21 pm
  • “…I guess you don’t rush Austin Jackson at this point…”
    but, why not nick?….give him a few games and see how he does…i hear a lot of talk about the trend for over-emphasizing pitch counts with young pitchers, but sheesh, there’s way too much caution with a position player’s psyche these days…the yanks are far enough out of it to let the kid have a few innings in the big leagues, now…
    “…more attack journalism from Abraham…”
    tsk, tsk, sf…moderators on this site have perfected the style that abe has emulated into his ‘special talent’….hehe….so the kid wants to go to school, bully for him…there’s life beyond baseball…he could always get his degree later on, but he’s a kid and he may want to go to classes with other kids…the yanks did a poor job of reading this one if you ask me…i know, you didn’t ask me…

    dc August 15, 2008, 4:21 pm
  • moderators on this site have perfected the style that abe has emulated into his ‘special talent’
    Actually, dc, I think that this site is worlds different from what it was two or three years ago, I think that we’ve toned down the inter-team rhetoric a great deal. It’s positively refined around these parts!
    I don’t like the tone of Abraham’s piece at all, it is really quite arrogant and judgmental, all while acknowledging a lack of knowledge of the situation. I don’t like it, and I have no opinion on this kid at all, I don’t know anything about him. And Abraham doesn’t either, yet certainly feels comfortable making him out to be a something of villain.

    SF August 15, 2008, 4:28 pm
  • glad to see you caught that i was just messin’ with ya sf…
    “…I don’t like the tone of Abraham’s piece at all…” agreed…sounds like sour grapes on his part for an opportunity lost…oh well, that’s how it goes…his anger seems misplaced…like i said, somebody with the yankees goofed on reading what this kid really wanted to do…

    dc August 15, 2008, 4:38 pm
  • I really don’t know enough about this situation to give much of an informed opinion, but if the reports of immaturity are true, Cole might be a Craig Hansen type (million dollar arm, ten cent head) and could benefit from a couple of years of college to get his head on straight.

    Micah-SF August 15, 2008, 4:45 pm
  • but if the reports of immaturity are true
    Isn’t it odd how we expect 18 year olds just out of high school to display preternatural maturity? It really isn’t quite fair, in general.

    SF August 15, 2008, 5:13 pm
  • I’d say there’s a good chance he will still sign. But I don’t understand making these villainous judgments. The deadline hasn’t passed yet, who knows who is playing what games in the press.
    Ultimately if the kid decides on college, why is it fair to sh*t on him for that decision? Because WE would have taken the money? Why is that fair? It’s his decision, in the end.

    SF August 15, 2008, 5:19 pm
  • there are more hot chicks in 1 women’s studies class at ucla than there is in the entire state of new york. to further that point, there are more hot chicks on ucla’s campus than there is teeth in scranton. there are some things more important than money ya know.

    sf rod August 15, 2008, 6:33 pm
  • it’s womyn’s studies, sf rod. but good points.

    Nick-YF August 15, 2008, 6:42 pm
  • The Red Sox, apparently, have signed both Hissey and Westmoreland (for $1M and $2M respectively). I am highly pleased.
    SF: This is true. That doesn’t mean we can’t feel – and say – that he’s made a mistake. For the record, this is where I come in, if you’re judging the move from a purely practical standpoint. Unless he stays injury-free and dominates in college, he is unlikely to make all that much more than he would have right now, and $2M is a lifechanging amount of money. The list of people with that kind of talent that HAVEN’T made it is a lot longer than those who HAVE – baseball remains far and away the hardest sport to get to the pros in once you’ve been drafted. So it seems fairly unarguable that, for all the possible benefits of going to college, he’s taking a huge risk here. It’s one that I, personally, would not take.

    Micah-SF August 15, 2008, 7:43 pm
  • I tend to agree with Micah except for one key point: Kids who go straight from high school into a highly fraternal setting — sports especially — from my observation and experience tend to be emotionally stunted people from then on. There are plenty of exceptions, but there’s a maturing effect that college can have on a person, and losing that to be thrust into the highly juvenile surroundings of a sports locker room can turn a person into someone perhaps their parents would prefer they not become. So I can see why his father, if he’s the one calling the shots, would want his son to take the “risk” of getting a degree — and maybe a better head on his shoulders — first.

    Paul SF August 15, 2008, 7:50 pm
  • Paul raises a good point, which is why my earlier post in the thread said that college might help him, maturity-wise (in a way that going straight into a minor league setting might not). It’s something that could also help him make the Majors – not that really talented idiots don’t succeed, but it’s so hard to make it through the Minors that any extra bit of maturity helps.
    But from a pure “personal security” standpoint, turning down $2M when chances are more likely than not that he’ll get a lot less the next time he enters the draft is not the smartest of moves. Although one has to figure that he’ll be at least somewhat better equipped to handle whatever money he DOES get after a few years in college.

    Micah-SF August 15, 2008, 7:59 pm
  • This update from Pete Abe:
    Update, 4:51 p.m. COLE TO UCLA: The Yankees have given up on Gerrit Cole. Brian Cashman said the player and his family made a “lifestyle choice” and decided on college. It sounds like the Yankees were misled back in June by the kid’s family. They certainly would not have taken him in the first round without believing he wanted to play pro ball. He’s going to UCLA, after all, not Harvard.
    Scott Boras is not behind this. It was all the kid and his family. But the Yankees can’t be too happy with Boras. They certainly consulted with him back in the spring. He has been the Cole’s family’s “advisor” (which is the NCAA’s way of saying agent) for a while now.
    Don’t hurt your arm in college, Gerrit.

    John - YF August 15, 2008, 8:57 pm
  • “Pete Abe gives him no room, I find this verging on deplorably judgmental. What if Cole wants to experience college? What if money isn’t his first priority at this point?”
    That’s pete for you. He probably compares leaving money on the table to skipping a buffet. Criminal.

    dave August 15, 2008, 9:03 pm
  • “…It sounds like the Yankees were misled …”
    misled, or misread, as i’ve suggested…either way, oh well…chalk it up…
    as for the notion that college somehow intills maturity, see: “farnsworth, kyle” and “papelbon, jonathan”…no guarantees

    dc August 15, 2008, 9:33 pm
  • The idea that Cole gave up all this money and won’t possibly make as much when he finishes college (if he stays healthy and excels) is absurd. Look at the 2007 signing bonuses:
    If Cole excels at UCLA, he could emerge as a top 5 draft pick overall, and in 2011 the signing bonuses will be even bigger, even in 2008 dollars.
    He has certainly left money on the table right now. But so what. If the kid wants to go play in college then good for him, and if the money doesn’t matter and the college experience and education do then good for him too.
    The idea that the Yankees wouldn’t have touched him if they knew college was in his future and that he misled them is a stretch: he hired Scott Boras. That doesn’t telegraph college, and maybe the kid just had a change of heart and priorities. Maybe his parents realized that he IS immature, and that toiling in the minors for three years, even with the bonus, wouldn’t be good for their son, maybe they worry about another Josh Hamilton case. In the end, if this kid and his family chose college and stability over money and A ball then who are we to judge the kid, demonize him?

    SF August 15, 2008, 9:35 pm
  • Even if Cole is a top 5 pick in three years, he won’t make as much money – from the Pirates or Mariners – as he would have from the Yankees. They paid significant overslot money to Brackman – about #1 in fact – last year, with a pre-existing injury, and they would have done the same again. They never got the chance. There were no negotiations.
    Him and his family have taken a huge risk for no financial gain. They don’t look very good right now. Chances are it’s the last we will have heard from them.
    Yeah, don’t hurt your arm, Gerrit.

    Jeff August 16, 2008, 7:09 am
  • “don’t hurt your arm, Gerrit.”
    but if you do, at least you have that free degree from one of the country’s better universities to fall back on. the kids taking alot of heat for choosing to better himself.

    sf rod August 16, 2008, 7:51 am
  • Yeah, not like $5 million in the bank couldn’t pay for a college degree any time after his arm fails him.
    Let’s be perfectly clear. This wasn’t a kid wanting to go to college and taken in the 7th or 8th round on the off-chance he’d sign. He was a lifelong Yankees fan and had Boras as his advisor.

    Jeff August 16, 2008, 9:45 am
  • “at least you have that free degree from one of the country’s better universities to fall back on. the kids taking alot of heat for choosing to better himself.”
    I highly doubt he would be there long enough for a degree. He’s eligible to enter the draft after his soph. season. Unless he either struggles or gets injured (God forbid) it would be highly unlikely he stuck around for all 4 years.

    John - YF August 16, 2008, 12:09 pm
  • just curious, any idea what he’s going to “study”?

    dc August 16, 2008, 1:11 pm
  • Yeah, not like $5 million in the bank couldn’t pay for a college degree any time after his arm fails him.
    Because 18-year-old kids are notoriously wise spenders?

    Paul SF August 16, 2008, 1:21 pm
  • Good point, John.
    Because 18-year-old kids are notoriously wise spenders?
    Yeah, because this kid has shown his parents have no control over him and his decisions.
    Go to college or take at least $5 million?
    Tough choice.

    Jeff August 16, 2008, 2:41 pm
  • You can’t have it both ways. Either his parents are controlling his decisions, leading him to choose college, or they’re not, leading him to choose the Yankees.
    We get it. You (and Pete Abe) are annoyed he chose college over the Yankees. Seems a strange reason to ridicule an 18-year-old kid you don’t even know for making a personal choice just because it doesn’t fit with your hopes for his life == or your favorite team.

    Paul SF August 16, 2008, 2:56 pm
  • Actually, it was the 18 year old pitcher passing up $5 million part that deserves ridicule.

    Jeff August 16, 2008, 3:51 pm

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