You Can’t Pick Your Friend’s Nose

You’re Roger Clemens.  You can pick and choose where you want to play (if you want to play).  You can (almost) pick your price.  And you can pick, for the most part, who sits next to you on the bench.  So who do you pick?

  • Curt Schilling, Jon Papelbon, and Josh Beckett, OR
  • Roy Oswalt, Andy Pettitte, and Wandy Rodriguez (who?!) OR
  • Randy Johnson, Chien Mien Wang, and Jaret Wright

Is it just me, or does the idea of closure, tons of cash, and being the most accomplished and senior member of a potentially lethal staff of fireballers look like the best fit for our prodigal son’s return?

17 comments… add one
  • How about Derek Jeter, Bernie Williams, Jorge Posada and Mariano Rivera. You know, those old friends of his that he won two World Championships with.

    whatever April 6, 2006, 10:41 pm
  • Give us a break. How about Johnson, Clemens, Rivera, for a trifecta, and throw in Moose for good measure. Plus, um, Derek. And Alex. And Gary. And Johnny……

    YF April 6, 2006, 10:43 pm
  • Here’s a thought. Tell me if you think I’m full of shit.
    Clemens most satisfying years were with the Yanks, No?
    The team with which he got his RINGS, and that’s what they all say, the ring’s the thing.
    And Clemens has told friends he wants to go into the HOF as a Yankee, even throwing a fit when the HOF indicated a few years back he should go in as a Red Sox, even, at the time, threatening to boycott his own induction ceremony.
    Maybe his feelings have changed, I don’t know. But having said that, I can’t imagine Clemens wanting to go back to the scene of his greatest triumphs, Yankee Stadium, as a member of the hated Red Sox to get his ass booed and hissed at, to be possibly considered a traitor, I just can’t see it.
    Especially if the Yanks would be willing to match or exceed whatever the Sox were offering.

    whatever April 6, 2006, 11:03 pm
  • We presume SF was phishing again, but throw this in: BDD and the Globe talk as though Theo and Roger will have a friendly little chat, Roger will get homesick and quietly go home to Boston.
    Right. George Steinbrenner will quietly sit by while Roger goes back to Beantown when pigs fly. He will match whatever Boston offers and then some.

    john April 6, 2006, 11:11 pm
  • Believe it or not I’m rather ambivalent about Clemens coming back, and it’s certainly not something I’m hoping and praying for.
    I’m sure he could help your staff, if he pitched anything like last year. But when it really counted, in the Series against the White Sox, Clemens was shot. He had nothing. He’s going to be 44 in August. Is that what the Yanks, or the Sox for that matter, really need, another 40 something pitcher?
    Clemens made 18 mil. last year. I can’t see him taking a big pay cut. And you’ll be paying for a partial year. And Clemens had VIP privileges with the ‘stros. Skipping a lot of road games, etc. Will the Yanks or Sox go for that?
    I actually think Clemens will retire. Or maybe stay with Houston, with his buddy Andy P. and his son in the Houston organization, if their doing okay in May.
    But if the Yanks or Sox pay a ton of money for Roger, thinking it’s World Series time as a result, well, the end game that plays out might not be exactly be what they were hoping for.

    whatever April 6, 2006, 11:37 pm
  • BDD is a fun place to visit, and invaluable site for up-to-the-minute, finger-in-the-wind missives about what’s going on, and they’ve been good to us here at YFSF, but it’s more of a tabloidish clearing house for news – that’s it’s strength. I don’t think it’s the best place to get sound criticism or non-sensationalized representations of what goes through the minds of most Sox fans. Unless, of course, they link to one of my posts ;).
    As for “phishing”, John has finally gotten one of my pieces! Break out the champagne!! You guys are like hornets in a nest – Wandy Rodriguez?! Please…

    SF April 7, 2006, 5:55 am
  • But having said that, I can’t imagine Clemens wanting to go back to the scene of his greatest triumphs, Yankee Stadium, as a member of the hated Red Sox to get his ass booed and hissed at, to be possibly considered a traitor, I just can’t see it.
    Not sure if you get the irony of this, or if you intended it (if you did please clarify), but the premise of this happening has never bothered Clemens before, why should it bother him now? If you really want to get it right, just reverse the Sox and Yanks and you have reality – he has gone through this exact situation you pose already.
    And really, Clemens’ greatest personal triumphs were certainly in Boston — not to diminish the championships (they are the most important thing), but the rings were really the only notable thing about his tenure in New York. If anything, he’ll be remembered by the majority of fans as a Yankee from the mercenary nature of his move there first, and for the fact that it was the place he obtained his ring second. By Yankees fans it will be the opposite, quite understandably. Nonetheless, in such an illustrious career his best pitching came just about everywhere but New York.

    SF April 7, 2006, 6:12 am
  • Roger is about the money. He’ll go to whatever contender offers the most. Hence the reason the Rangers aren’t viable – they’re not a serious contender.
    The only other element that goes into this equation is proximity. Houston has that in its favor. But coin and being a contender will matter more and I’m not convinced Houston will prove to have either.
    Clemens is going to wait 2 or 3 months before making a decision to get a sense of who the serious contenders are and if he chooses to return, he’ll let the bidding war commence. At which time, King George will pull out his fat wallet and outbid everyone. Well maybe, but that remains to be seen.

    Craig April 7, 2006, 7:00 am
  • Truth be told, I don’t want him back in Boston. One of the things I’ve loved about the Sox in the past few years is that the members of these teams (pretty much) all wanted to be in Boston and had a lot of fun doing it. Roger is a merc, he’ll go for the highest bidder because it’s the highest bidder and he won’t ever be a part of the team he joins.

    Eric April 7, 2006, 10:23 am
  • SF,
    Clemens most definitely pitched his best ball with the Sox, the Jays, and the ‘stros, and not the Yanks. Couldn’t agree more.
    Of course I’m aware Clemens has done this before, leaving Boston and eventually winding up in New York after a couple renditions of “Oh Canada”, and now possibly going from the Yanks, back to Boston, with a couple renditions of Dean Martin’s “Going back to Houston” in between.
    But I think the difference between the two would be, Clemens left Boston on not the best of terms. Sox fans and media weren’t real kind to him, and Duquette basically told him, don’t let the door hit your ass on the way out.
    I don’t think Clemens gave a damn what Boston thought of him when he decided to go to New York.
    But when Roger left New York, it was all good. He thought he was going to retire, he’d won two rings there, and the Yanks bid him a fond farewell.
    Now I know there was a little sniping when Clemens couldn’t resist joining Houston to pitch in his hometown with his best buddy Andy Pettitte, but that’s forgotten.
    So what I’m saying, is that this time around, Clemens might be a little reluctant to burn bridges with the Yankees after his triumphant years there and leaving on a good note.
    However, I could be wrong. Maybe Clemens feels he has unfinished business in Boston. Who knows?

    whatever April 7, 2006, 10:45 am
  • Since I’m a mind reader here’s Rocket’s pecking order:
    1. Houston Astros – Why did he come out of retirement in the first place?
    2. NY Yankees – Even though the rings were the “only notable thing” he accomplished in NYC, they are THE thing.
    3. Boston Red Sox – Dream on RSN if you think he’s going to come back after the way fans treated him when he left. You can’t continue to turd all over HOF players who leave and expect them to return, begging for more. Not even the chance to tutor Curt Schilling AGAIN on how to be a big league pitcher would be enough.
    4. Texas Rangers – With no ring potential and no real payday, the only thing Arlington has to offer is a bloated ERA.

    lp April 7, 2006, 11:42 am
  • Rocket retired (the first time) because he wanted to pitch for the US in the Olympics, but those scrubs shat themselves vs. Mexico and didn’t qualify. HOU presented a sweet deal with too many perks to pass up. After the 2005 Roger saw another opportunity to represent his country in the WBC (who oddly enough lost to Mexico to be eliminated). I think he has fed that desire and will pitch again. I do think that the loss of his mother makes him more of a mercenary, but his ties to the HOU organization will probably keep him in house (nice use of a draft pick by the ‘Stros as insurance). A distant second would be the Yanks.

    Nate April 7, 2006, 11:55 am
  • My first prediction is Roger will be back. Not for the money, but for the record books. Why else would Roger kiss the babe’s bust at Yankee Stadium, before each game? Tradition…Yes Boston fans were harsh, but when has Roger cared for anything but number 1! My money is on Roger staying in Texas…

    Charlie April 7, 2006, 12:03 pm
  • “3. Boston Red Sox – Dream on RSN if you think he’s going to come back after the way fans treated him when he left. You can’t continue to turd all over HOF players who leave and expect them to return, begging for more. Not even the chance to tutor Curt Schilling AGAIN on how to be a big league pitcher would be enough.”
    Do you seriously think that Roger Clemens would allow Dan Duquette and his relationship with the Boston fans nine years ago to interfere with a decision to return to Boston? At heart, Roger is a business man who cares primarily about two things – coin and his career.

    Craig April 7, 2006, 2:03 pm
  • Haha, Rocket’s worried about how Sox fans treat him, that’s funny. He must cry in bed every night thinking about us.
    He doesn’t care. None of these guys care. It’s all about the paycheck. A Yankee fan should know better than anyone else that money talks. If the Sox offer $20 million and don’t make him go on road trips, he’ll sign with Boston. If the Yanks offer $21 million, he’ll sign with them. Or Houston, if they step up. If not, he’ll stay home and play with his son (a.k.a. “throw four-seamers at his face”). Simple.

    pstar April 7, 2006, 2:40 pm
  • Clemens won four Cy Youngs in cities outside of Boston, including one with the Yankees. The idea that the rings were “The Only” thing he got out of five seasons in New York is absurd.

    Anthony April 8, 2006, 12:10 am
  • Correct. And he won three CYs with Boston, more than with any other team. So by your logic, that should make him more inclined to select Boston. Which I don’t happen to buy into. Roger is not particularly nostalgic.
    The bottom lines are coin and contention. He wants dollars because a. he likes money (don’t we all) and b. he has a huge ego. He wants a contender because he’d like a shot at another ring while he’s raking in the cash. If he can do those things close to home, so much the better but I see proximity as a distant third factor.

    Craig April 8, 2006, 8:04 am

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