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When all is said and done if I didn’t retire after next year I couldn’t imagine playing anywhere but Boston anyway to finish my career.
– Curt Schilling, on YFSF, July 21, 2006

I will play in 2008. … Where I’m going to play beyond 2007, I hope it’s Boston, but I will go out and find a home to pitch,” he said. “I hope it’s here but there’s also that possibility [of pitching for another team]. It would not be to New York.
– Curt Schilling, on WEEI, Jan. 29, 2007

39 comments… add one

  • Surprise, surprise.

    Devine January 29, 2007, 9:37 am
  • …money talks…he certainly is a good politician…but, this is probably a better career move…

    dc January 29, 2007, 9:39 am
  • What a load

    Juke January 29, 2007, 9:52 am
  • I would rather lose 100 games then have him pitch for us. Maybe the Mets could use him.

    Triskaidekaphobia January 29, 2007, 10:09 am
  • Does he have a no trade clause?

    Seth January 29, 2007, 10:20 am
  • I find that extremely hard to believe, Trisk. Do you find his personality so unattractive that he’s somehow worse than Sheffield, Giambi, Johnson and Kevin Brown — all of whom I assume you’ve rooted for at one point or another.

    Paul SF January 29, 2007, 10:45 am
  • I’m with you, Trisk – I would rather see bin Laden on our roster.
    If the Mets got him, we would have to endure even more of his bu@#sh&t, though. Here’s hoping he goes to one of the West coast teams…

    Andrews January 29, 2007, 10:46 am
  • It doesn’t even matter that he’s still a tremendous pitcher. The fact of the matter is, I could not stand to see that man on our roster anyway. The “Bloody Sock” days would haunt my dreams.

    Chris January 29, 2007, 10:49 am
  • Let’s cut the guy a little slack. It’s clear he wants to play in Boston. I think it’s fair to interpret the phrase “can’t imagine playing anywhere but” pretty broadly. In the midseason, prompted by a question as to whether he wants to stay in Beantown, he obviously and one would think honestly writes that he “can’t imagine” going elsewhere. Okay. Seems reasonable. He had no reason to imagine anything else at that point. Perhaps now he does have a reason to give it some consideration, for business reasons if none other—and baseball is a business. If I were a Sox fan, I’d have no qualms with this.

    YF January 29, 2007, 10:51 am
  • Not sure who you’re responding to, YF. I was merely pointing out that Curt first raised the prospect publicly of not retiring after 2007 right here at YFSF. Since he doesn’t use an agent and negotiates his own contracts, I assume his recent comments are a concession that even if he wants to return, the Sox might not want him.

    Paul SF January 29, 2007, 10:56 am
  • ” Do you find his personality so unattractive that he’s somehow worse than Sheffield, Giambi, Johnson and Kevin Brown — all of whom I assume you’ve rooted for at one point or another.”
    In a word, YES. I’ve never hated a player in any sport as much as that guy.

    Andrews January 29, 2007, 10:56 am
  • Let me add: For all the criticisms about Schilling—his politics, his relationship with the media/fans, his position regarding steroids—I don’t think anyone in Boston thinks he has his eye on the door, or that there’s anyone who’s been more dedicated to his performance or more of a gamer. So bottom line, he’s given and appears to be giving the Sox and Sox fans all that can legitimately be expected.

    YF January 29, 2007, 10:59 am
  • *Sheffield, I stomached. Never a fan.
    *Unit and Kevin Brown, I despised.
    *Giambi, big fan. His personality is nothing like any of those 3. He is a great teammate (from what people say). Yes he made some mistakes, but that has nothing to do with his likeability.
    If you read my past posts you will see that I always bring up getting rid of those 3 guys as a positive.

    Triskaidekaphobia January 29, 2007, 11:00 am
  • If Schilling came to New York I would shoot myself in the genitals. Wait till it heals up, then pop one in my head.

    Russell January 29, 2007, 11:01 am
  • Paul: fair enough, and I wasn’t really responding to you, just the general flow of the discussion.

    YF January 29, 2007, 11:02 am
  • “Let’s cut the guy a little slack.”
    Let’s not.
    Just because he posts on the site doesn’t mean he deserves a mulligan. The guy is insufferable.

    Andrews January 29, 2007, 11:02 am
  • I admit that if he wasn’t a Red Sock, I wouldn’t be able to stand Curt either, but he is, so I can.
    I honestly think Curt needs to move on if he wants to pitch in 2008. Hopefully, we won’t need him.

    LocklandSF January 29, 2007, 11:18 am
  • If the Sox don’t need him, they could trade him in the 07 offseason. If they do need him, a Matsuzaka, Beckett, Schilling, Papelbon, Buccholz rotation suits me just fine. Unless there’s a real concern he won’t at least replicate last year’s results this season (and I don’t think there is), why not get a little insurance? The only reason I can think of is cost. They might be counting on clearing his salary to go into the FA market.

    Paul SF January 29, 2007, 11:45 am
  • Lockland, you are the coolest sox fan ever. Words I never thought I would say. First the John McCain thing with Schilling, now this….

    Triskaidekaphobia January 29, 2007, 11:57 am
  • I think we all root for players we don’t like. Yankees fans who think that they would concede a loss gladly if Schilling showed up every fifth day in pinstripes are full of it. It’s not fun rooting for guys who you aren’t fond of, but we all do it, because the uniform takes precedence.
    I understand not wanting a player to become part of your team, but once they are on the team, what choice do we have? Root for failure? Come on, be serious. I don’t think any of us do this with any kind of consistency or regularity.

    SF January 29, 2007, 12:20 pm
  • I agree with SF, with only one exception, Bonds. I really don’t think I could ever support him, I wouldn’t boo, but I would never cheer.

    LocklandSF January 29, 2007, 12:26 pm
  • But would you root for him to strike out with the bases jacked, the Sox down by one, in the bottom of the ninth?
    I certainly hope I never have to confront this situation, but the chances are that at some point in the future I will be faced with something comparable, where a player I detest is wearing a Sox’ uniform and in the position of possibly being a hero. I am pretty sure I’d root for the game-winning hit, then go shower.

    SF January 29, 2007, 12:30 pm
  • I would NEVER root against the Yankees, but that doesn’t mean I have to root for a player I dislike. Getting Schilling would be like when we had Unit or Kevin Brown, it was like having the stomach flu every 5 days.

    Triskaidekaphobia January 29, 2007, 12:38 pm
  • …it appears that shilling’s planning to “settle” in the northeast, which would make boston the frontrunner [fine with me]…but, he loves the spotlight so much, he’ll clearly want to be on a team with ws potential, which again is boston, but it’ll depend on how this season plays out and his assessment of theo’s plan to continue to build a winner…i guess…if the sox want him back, don’t forget the youth movement and all the young pitching prospects…as for the yanks, remember, damon said he’d never play for the yanks too…shilling’s different than the yank guys mentioned, at least with them you know what you get…shilling is a phony, and leaves you scratching your head about who the real guy is…he does get his butt kissed because he posts occasionally, but let’s face it, he does it for the same reason he does everything else, for the attention…i said a long time ago here that we root for the uniform…i would have no problem rooting for shilling, bonds, or anyone if they wore pinstripes…it’s too easy not to be honest about that in this forum…love of team comes first…

    dc January 29, 2007, 12:55 pm
  • Hmmm…looks like my 2nd question for Schill back on the Senator Schilling thread was on some other people’s minds as well.
    Listening to that WEEI interview, it sounds like Schilling wants another year at 13 mil., his 2007 salary, and wants it done soon, but at this point, the Sox are a little reluctant to do that.

    Whatever January 29, 2007, 2:53 pm
  • Funny how Schilling was on Hillary’s case almost as soon as that interview began.

    Whatever January 29, 2007, 2:56 pm
  • Schilling is one of those guys who you like or at least, can put up with, if he’s on your team, but if he’s not you probably aren’t real fond of him. If he was on the Yanks, I’d probably think he was fine and dandy, other than his politics.
    BTW, the Yankees tried to get Schilling before the Sox did, but the D-Backs’s Jerry Colangelo tried to commit highway robbery, demanding Soriano and Nick Johnson.
    So the Sox get him for Casey Fossum and a couple of nobodies. What a joke. Colangelo didn’t like Steinbrenner.

    Whatever January 29, 2007, 3:06 pm
  • Schilling is a punk and there are few Yankee fans or Yankee officials that would want to see him in pinstripes.
    But the real reason that he’s so unattractive is that he’s a punk AND running on vapors. If he were in his prime, Yankee fans could/would hold their noses and watch a game that he started.
    Funny, though, I didn’t hear the “It’s not fun rooting for guys who you aren’t fond of, but we all do it, because the uniform takes precedence.” lecture when Chass joked about Bonds going to the Red Sox.

    lp January 29, 2007, 3:14 pm
  • lp:
    Your research skills are terrible. Paul addresses this exact issue in the Bonds/Chass thread.
    Chass, like Steve Phillips before him, forgets that Bonds has said he’ll never play in Boston. And both are too stupid to understand that signing Bonds runs counter to the Red Sox’ organizational philosophy. I’m not sure many Red Sox fans would be able to cheer Bonds. We all route [sic] for the team, of course, but Bonds transcends teams as a loathesome person who ought to be booed at any given opportunity.
    Posted by: Paul SF | Wednesday, January 17, 2007 at 11:25 AM

    SF January 29, 2007, 3:20 pm
  • Totally unrelated (sort of), but I was just wondering about the BoSox. If they acquire Helton, and say they make it to the World Series (I’m simply letting my thoughts wonder) and are playing at a National League Park. Would they sit Helton out to play Ortiz at first? I assume they would, it just seems funny to me.

    Chris January 29, 2007, 3:29 pm
  • Chris: ABSOLUTELY. I’d venture to guess that Helton would only come in later in the game, and only then if it wasn’t close one way or the other.

    Brad January 29, 2007, 4:10 pm
  • Chris: ABSOLUTELY. I’d venture to guess that Helton would only come in later in the game, and only then if it wasn’t close one way or the other.

    Brad January 29, 2007, 4:10 pm
  • sorry for the double dip there.

    Brad January 29, 2007, 4:11 pm
  • geez. i thought schill made 60,000 new yorkers shut up. that didn’t last long.
    as for a-holes you can root for cause they wore the pinstripes….karim garcia got invited to throw the ball around with the phillies this spring. look out pizza delivery boys.

    sf rod January 29, 2007, 4:15 pm
  • SF, I was talking to YOU, given that you’re the author of the lecture.

    lp January 29, 2007, 4:50 pm
  • Did I really misspell root? Yuck.

    Paul SF January 29, 2007, 4:55 pm
  • It wasn’t a lecture, lp, I am sorry that you read it that way.
    We’ve been through the “how do you root for someone you don’t like or think isn’t entirely honest or maybe has cheated” meme at this site many times over the years, with guys like Giambi, Schilling, etc. It’s a longstanding existential discussion. We also had a variation on this discussion with regards to “what if you found out one of the 2004 Sox was on steroids”, and you might find it if you search the archives. I don’t have time right now (seriously – I have to go shop for a birthday present for my wife, since there’s only seven hours left in the actual birthday). I think most of us take the same stance: you root for the team, even if you dislike the person wearing the uniform. It’s a convenient out, emotionally, but what can we do? Root for team failure?

    SF January 29, 2007, 5:17 pm
  • lp:
    here’s one comment I found quickly on the steroid issue, though I am not sure if you will find it relevant:
    http://yanksfansoxfan.typepad.com/ysfs/2006/06/more_names_more.html#comment-18907078

    SF January 29, 2007, 5:19 pm
  • sf- i did the same thing on saturday. my girl was very happy with her day spa gift certificate. took me all of 5 minutes.

    sf rod January 29, 2007, 5:21 pm

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