You Will Jump On the Bandwagon!

That David Eckstein, he sure is detertty:

He’s the grittiest player I have ever seen,” says Everyone. “You think he’s too small, you think his arm is too weak, you think he is not that good at baseball, you think he is a small, small boy who is very small, you think he can’t hurt you. And you are right. But god damn, is that small boy gritty and determined.”

And that Derek Jeter, he sure is the 12th- or 13th-best hitter in the American League:

So there you have it, folks. Derek Jeter. Winner of the Hank Aaron Award for being the first-or-second-best-hitting SS in the AL, and probably like the third- or fourth-best hitter on his own team.

That’s what we give the award out for, correct?

And I feel like a terrible fan for missing The Anniversary, which was last night, but Beth and Surviving Grady each had better things to say than I could have written.

15 comments… add one

  • their coverage of the Eckstein worship has been amazing.

    Nick-YF October 28, 2006, 5:31 pm
  • Fire Joe Morgan is a must-read most times anyway, but they certainly have done a great job with the Eckstein stuff. He’s a slightly-above-mediocre player — and a poor shortstop — but now he’s Derek Jeter and David Ortiz combined, apparently.

    Paul SF October 28, 2006, 5:40 pm
  • What the hell is you guys’ beef with Eckstein? He’s a gritty, hardnosed kind of little guy player? What’s the problem with everyone shi**ing on poor guy? All he does is play the game hard. Maybe that’s the problem.

    Brad October 29, 2006, 12:02 am
  • My personal beef with Eckstein (and it’s not with him, he doesn’t write the stuff) is the idea that he’s almost the only player capable of scrappy hard-nosed play. I like watching Eckstein play, take any cliche you want, he plays the game the right way. But it’s the constant fawning over him that gets to me.
    This is a poor comparison, possibly, but it’s like when DMB’s Ants Marching was like the most popular song in the world. I like it. It’s a quality song IMHO. But I heard it 12 times a day every day of the week. The constant promotion of it got old.

    Quo October 29, 2006, 2:51 am
  • …on eckstein, give the guy a break…i agree with brad, you guys are making too much out of the accolades he’s getting…he probably tends to represent the underdog to most people, you know: too small, too weak, too slow, not too good looking, so the loser in “us” wants to see him excel against the more athletic, handsome, and talented players…i guess…
    …on jeter, geez paul, what took you so long to start the bashing…i looked up the criteria for the award, and here’s what i found:
    “Hank Aaron Award
    The Hank Aaron Award is an annual award in Major League Baseball awarded to the top hitter in each league. It was introduced in 1999 to commemorate the 25th anniversary of Hank Aaron surpassing Babe Ruth’s career home run mark.
    In 1999, a winner was selected using an objective points system. Hits, home runs and runs batted in were given certain point values and the winner was the player who had the highest tabulated points total. The system was changed in 2000, however, to a ballot system, whereby each club’s radio and television play-by-play broadcasters and color analysts were given three player votes for each league. The first place vote receives five points, the second place vote receives three points, and the third place vote receives one point, and again the winner is the player with the highest point total. Beginning in 2003, fans were given the opportunity to vote through the MLB.com website. Fan voting accounted for 30% of the points, with broadcaster and analyst voting accounting for the other 70%.”
    …it’s a damn beauty contest for crying out loud…stats have nothing to do with it…just like the stinking all star game…i’d be called a commie for suggesting that we take this stuff away from the fans, but that’s the only way to solve it…but, we’d still get arguments…that’s what makes it fun…it’s apparent that your buddy on that dopey website made up some goofy, contrived statistics deliberately made to make jeter look bad…yawn…i’m not sure what any of his statistical gymnastics had to do with hank aaron or the award, but anybody can play the “cook the stats” game…but, it’s getting old…i’ll save everyone the trouble: ortiz was the most outstanding offensive player in the al this year, with more “hank aaron-like” stats than anyone else [probably using 99’s scoring system]…jeter will probably win the mvp too…do you have a surprise planned to celebrate that announcement paul, or is it going to be more of the same, tired, boring crap?…

    dc October 29, 2006, 3:20 pm
  • I’ve long made my peace with Jeter probably winning the MVP. I’ll just hide away from ESPN for a couple days during that time…
    My problem with Eckstein — and it’s not really a problem with Eckstein himself; it’s a problem with the sportswriters who should know better — is that he’s not that great. He’s scrappy, sure, he’s worth a few wins over the course of a season. He doesn’t suck, but he’s really not that good either. Certainly not as good as all the hype being afflicted upon us. As if he’s the only player to play hurt or work a count (even though he really doesn’t work the count more than average) or be fortunate enough to have the center fielder fall down while trying to catch his pop fly. Well, Ok, that is the only time I’ve ever seen THAT happen…

    Paul SF October 29, 2006, 5:22 pm
  • “The Hank Aaron Award is an annual award in Major League Baseball awarded to the top hitter in each league.”

    “Fan voting accounted for 30% of the points, with broadcaster and analyst voting accounting for the other 70%.”
    It’s funny how MLB assumes that the one is smart enough to choose the other. Ah well. It is a beauty contest — and Jeter sure would win any of those hands down, no matter how much lipstick A-Rod wears — but it would be nice if MLB just acknowledged that up front.

    Paul SF October 29, 2006, 5:27 pm
  • The HA award serves no point and should be deleted.

    attackgerbil October 29, 2006, 5:45 pm
  • I’m not too angsty about Eckstein. I guess I just find him an exceedingly annoying player to watch. What can I say? There’s something that rubs me the wrong way about his sprint to first after ball 4. And although it’s not his fault, the coverage he gets is pretty tiresome and cliched. I thought the Fire Joe Morgan posts were very funny.
    I think Jeter doesn’t deserve the Hank Aaron award if, in fact, it is supposed to go to the best hitter in his league. The award should either go to Hafner or Big Papi. That said, I think he has a stronger case than either of those guys for MVP because I think position matters (something that the author of the FJM post acknowledges).

    Nick-YF October 29, 2006, 5:53 pm
  • I’ve disliked David Ecsktein for years. This recent coverage doesn’t influence my opinion on him whatsoever. It’s irrational. It’s contrived. I don’t care. Don’t like him, no sir. Just like Pujols and Tek. Then again, if I sat down with any of those guys and had a beer with them, I’d likely respect any one of them immensely. That’s just the price of a fan who is ruled by emotional reaction.

    attackgerbil October 29, 2006, 6:00 pm
  • …guys, let’s be honest…or i will anyway…i don’t like eckstein , but i’m ok with him winning the series mvp…i would definitely like him in a yankee uniform…i like the blue-collar energy…you guys can tell aaron that his award is irrelevant…it’s not the first time the wrong guy has won an award…is this what we’re reduced to because both our teams didn’t get it done?…pathetic…

    dc October 29, 2006, 6:52 pm
  • dc, I thought I was being honest. I guess since I don’t agree with you that’s a mark of dishonesty? I also don’t think we need David Eckstein’s blue collar energy. I’m happy with our current SS and 2b situation, thank you very much. Where would the gritty one play? I agree with Paul here. Eckstein’s just not that good of a player. And I find him just a little annoying. Honestly, that’s my opinion. I’m not trying to pile on him right now.

    Nick-YF October 29, 2006, 7:03 pm
  • I am happy to pile on. Not only is David Eckstein annoying, but he kills kitties and eats them for lunch. And he throws like a girl.

    SF October 29, 2006, 7:05 pm
  • …nick, i was speaking hypothetically…we don’t need eck, and i think i said i didn’t necessarily like him…but i do like his energetic style and the results…one of the reasons we don’t like him is because he used to be one of the yankee killing angels…and let’s face it, the best player doesn’t always win the series mvp…i think a guy named “brian doyle” once won it for the yankees…i just think we ought to get off the guy’s back

    dc October 29, 2006, 7:39 pm
  • …actually it was bucky dent that won the series mvp in 1978, not brian doyle…i think doyle, playing 2nd base for the injured willie randolph had a far above expectation performance however, and probably deserved some consideration…

    dc October 29, 2006, 8:10 pm

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