The Red Sox’ bullpen ERA through the end of the season-opening road trip. I’ll take it.
The question is, who will be leaving? They just claimed Durbin off waivers, and Timlin is supposed to be back soon. So Lopez probably gets optioned, but I doubt Okajima does… I haven’t been terribly impressed by Romero but it seems early to ditch him.
Lopez should stay, but he’ll be the one to go.
FWIW: Yankee relievers: 25.1 ip, .87 whip, 1.07 era.
I’m surprised by how well Lopez has done. I never liked that trade, but he did a good job last year and seems to be solid. Really, all the relievers have done well except the one case — the 3.71 number is inflated by Romero’s awful, awful 0 IP, 5 H, 3 R performance. I guess he’s now officially the biggest question mark, up there with Pineiro, who was less than inspiring on Sunday.
Yes, YF, we know.
And Yankees’ starters’ ERA before last night was 9.97. (I still think Farnsworth will blow up.)
(Reminds me: The ESPN trivial stat o’ night was that Rodriguez is the first Yankee to have five homers in the first six games of the season. Not Babe Ruth, not Reggie Jackson, not Kevin Maas. This is not a swipe at Rodriguez. But, Jesus, guys, relevance, please? ESPN. Asserting life’s trivial points since 1979.)
Back to the original point: Maybe more than in recent years these two teams will undergo dramatic changes from their opening day rosters to stay in contention.
This looks like the best Yankee pen since the days of Nellie, Stanton, Mendoza and Mo.
It’s no excuse, as they say in baseball, but I think getting the aged Yankee starters out of the freezing Stadium is going to prove to be all they need. And btw, I said so before Pavano’s start (you can look it up).
A-Rod is showing what he can do when his head is screwed on straight. Pettite took the locker next to Pavano, and he’s giving pep talks. Damon or Jorgie or someone (probably not Jeets) should do the same for A-Rod. Damon might be the best bet, or Bowa.
Hey Bill – Sorry the random stat of the night wasn’t about the Red Sox. Im sure you would have been interested to know if Manny or Papi had some obscure Red Sox specific HR feat. I know I found this stat interesting when I heard it. I guess the lesson here is not to watch ESPN for meaningful content!
(I still think Farnsworth will blow up.)
Last year Farnsworth had problems when Joe pitched him two days in a row. This year, with Bruney and Vizcaino, Joe won’t have to do that. Watch for Farnsworth to have a great year.
Yeah, to me that stat has just as much meaning as the bullpen ERA of either team at this point. I’m not attacking Paul or YF for posting those ERAs (YF said for FWIW after all and Paul was just starting a conversation) but I’m not sure ESPN should be called out for posting A-Rod’s remarkable numbers so far. It’s a story fans are interested in.
Also except for Pineiro…the bullpen ERA would be a couple runs higher if it weren’t for Papelbon.
Sorry Sam, but I’m not picking on the Yankees or Rodriguez. ESPN has just as many meaningless stats about the Red Sox as it does the Yankees.
I’m taking shots at ESPN. And I always will take shots at ESPN.
Actually, the oddest part of ESPN’s presentation of the stat was that they had it posted it under the Breaking News portion of the scroll.
David Ortiz has spaghetti for breakfast.
To me, it was much more important that Pavano had a great start. The Yankees would have won the game without the homer. Maybe not so assured if Pavano goes less than 6 innings. I’m going on memory here, but of the five he’s hit, only one (maybe two??) has been pivotal to a game.
Again: Target is ESPN irrelevance, not Yankees. The feat certainly is notable. I didn’t mean to start a nit-pick war here.
Has it been noted here that it’s a battle of “young phenoms” tomorrow at Fenway Park between Matsuzaka and Felix Hernandez? Fun!
Stomp all over ’em, Beckett, cold weather be damned.
Ooh, this should be a classic pitching duel. I’ll definitely be watching.
Dale and Holley were saying that this has become the forgotten storyline of the homestand. And I agree.
As Johnny Orr used to say, that game should be a dinger-donger.
I was speaking of relevance earlier.
Dan Shaughnessy, who often is relevancy challenged of late, has a nice piece in today’s Globe on Yaz and the Fenway atmosphere in 1967, the year Red Sox Nation was born.
“This looks like the best Yankee pen since the days of Nellie, Stanton, Mendoza and Mo.”
I’m not convinced. They’ve been excellent for a week. I wonder if the starting pitching woes continue how they’ll be able to handle pitching four or five innings a game, four or five days a week.
Good starters make bullpens look good by giving them lots of leads and lots of rest.
hahahahaha…there you go again tyrel…the yanks bullpen has held it together so far or they’d be winless…i agree that a couple of games is hardly representative, but give credit where it is due…if a yf said dmat pitched good for one game, but he’ll probably suck because we’re not convinced, some sf’s would probably meltdown…ha
Well, they’re certainly the best bullpen in the majors so far. If Bruney can keep his walks under control, Vizcaino repeat, and Farns and Proctor repeat from last year (all not tall orders), then the Yankees will have a better bullpen than the ‘glory days’. They certainly have one of the largest upsides in the pen in the majors, and the capability to be the best. Of course when you’re anchored by God, that statement becomes less impressive.
“but he’ll probably suck because we’re not convinced”
Nice to see you too dc. I didn’t say they suck, nor did I say that they would suck “because” I’m not convincd. I merely said that I’m not convinced after a week that they stack up against the glory days of the Yanks bullpen.
I agreed that the bullpen has been good so far (though I would think both the Braves and the Tigers have a leg up in the “best in baseball” competition – Proctor/Farnsworth/Vizcaino < Zumaya/Rodney and Soriano/Gonzalez, IMHO). My only point is that, by my count, they've already thrown 22 and a third innings, through 6 games. And when you have um "questions" in the rotation, the workload will continue to be high.
Look at the Glory Days. There were essentially five guys making all the starts, with a handful by Mendoza. That made the bullpen's job much easier (I'm not saying they weren't really good, I'm just saying that even the best will crumble with overuse). This year, however, with the 4th and 5th starters being not good, the pen "may" see a lot more use, or even overuse. I'm not saying this is a certainty, I'm just saying there's enough of a possibility to leave me unconvinced as to the 'pens greatness.
Nothing controversial here...
Pettite, Moose and even Pavano will be going longer. Three starts in the balmy homerdome will start them on their way. Then the bullpen has astounding depth – Vizcaino, Bruney, Farnsworth and Proctor are all great set up. And then we have two different lefties: Myers the specialist and Sean Henn. Re Henn, in Joe we trust. If Joe was wrong, Villone is down in Hershey.
This is a great pen. Barring injuries, they will have a great year.
Fenway is looking great. I sent a “congratulations” e-mail to Janet Marie. It’s hard to believe that only 6 years ago we were working for Save Fenway Park because the future of Fenway was seriously in doubt. The Nation lucked out when John Henry came along.
“…I’m just saying there’s enough of a possibility to leave me unconvinced as to the ‘pens greatness…”
That’s the most amazing part about that whole process John. That Henry’s crew was the only group seeking ownership that actually wanted to save Fenway. Even if the Sox were still looking for the championship, we’d be fortunate to have him/them as the ownership group.
John, you worked on the Save Fenway campaign?
Respect. They’ve done good.
Not the Save Fenway campaign, exactly — the Save Fenway charrette (http://www.savefenwaypark.com/symp.cfm) for the same group.
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