Categories General Yankees 9 1/2 10 Weeks Post author By attackgerbil Post date March 5, 2009 100 Comments on 9 1/2 10 Weeks Nothing sexy about this. ← The Alex Show → Oh, Murray 100 replies on “9 1/2 10 Weeks” Google “hip cyst steroid use”: http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=hip%20cysts%20steroid%20use&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8 It’s so obvious that Alex’s first game back will end up being the late May series at Arlington. How could it not be? not exactly conclusive sf…so, here we go again…we’ll have some who want to tie steroid use to the cyst, and some who will like the ‘no connection’ theory better…did he say “mine” or “ha”?, blah, blah… For the record, I have no interest in tying them together, I just thought it interesting that that sequence of words results in a Google search which might as well be an A-Rod search. It was offered without comment or judgment, I am no doctor. dc, yep. It’s that little bit of wiggle room that makes hell for truth. Her: “I probably wouldn’t sleep with you even if we were the last people on earth!” Him: “So you’re saying there’s a chance…” oh noes! Anyone want to actually look up what percentage of A-Rod’s stats he averages for the month of April? I’m guessing it’s at least 15-20% for the year. He’ll be paid $5,384,615 to sit out. April is A-Rod’s second-best month, next to August. Those are the only two months in which he’s posted a career OPS of 1.000 or better. May (.991) is his third-best month. April: .311/.391/.611 May: .313/.398/.592 June: .312/.394/.545 July: .299/.378/.560 August: .316/.395/.619 Sept.: .284/.378/.541 (unclutch!!1!!1!) 2008 was actually A-Rod’s worst April since his down year of 2004. From 2000-03 he posted a 1.000 or better OPS in April every year, but only has done it once, in 2007, since. A-Rod has hit 1.000 or better OPS in four of the last five Mays, with 2007 the only exception. If Drew and Penny miss April we’re even. ;-) Also, I know Damon was just trying to put a positive face on a bad situation, but that whole thing about Ransom being the best athlete on the team is just silly. I’m sure the Yankees feel much better about a player with a career minor league on-base percentage of .322 and eight seasons in AAA manning third base in place of the best player in the game now that we all know he’s the best athlete on the team. Unless Damon thinks Ransom’s .302/.400/.651 line in 51 plate appearances for the Yankees last season is indicative of his true value. Being a very good athlete and being a very good baseball player are vastly different though. If you have the talent, being a good athlete can make you better, but just being a good athlete alone doesn’t do much. Michael Jordon comes to mind. Being a very good athlete and being a very good baseball player are vastly different though Yep. We used to have a guy that was the NCAA champion in the 400m, and he was exclusively used in base stealing opportunites and OF defense replacements. He couldn’t hit anyting with one of those big red kid bats. There is no problem here anyhow – NY will just spend another few million for fill-in. Maybe eat half of the Beltre contract to fill in. Nothing the checkbook can’t solve. Anyone who has a 60 inch vertical is a great athlete. But that’s far from being a great baseball player. I don’t think anyone called Ransom the latter. It reminds me of all the Gabe Kapler love a few years ago. He’s AAAA ballplayer, but he was terrible with the Sox. As for A-Rod, call that Exhibit A for why I thought they didn’t have enough offense. 30 games is huge in the AL East. I can’t imagine they would have signed Manny had they known about this a week ago. But they should have. Worse – they’re still not sure if Matsui and Posada are healthy. The Yankee pitching could give up 650 runs. But I wouldn’t be surprised to see the offense struggle to score 750 runs. Of course, now watch them win 15 of their first 20 games have folks calling for DFA-Rod. Ransom has a 60 inch vertical? Are you serious? That’s like, insane. Ah, I saw a video. Still very impressive, obviously, but for some reason I pictured something else.. > Ransom has a 60 inch vertical? No, he doesn’t. Our second baseman IS a 60″ vertical. No, he doesn’t. Well, it’s not free standing, but still… http://riveraveblues.com/2009/03/his-name-aint-chump-its-cody-ransom-8721/ I bet, like the RAB boys, the Yanks sign Mark Grudzielanek. He’s good enough for 3B and they can keep him around as the UIF. I’m coming around to NoMaas’ perspective on Pete. This update grates on me. > So in a span of less than a year, Rodriguez tore a quad Played in 138 games last season. > and now needs a hip operation. Yep. > Can you draw a line from three years of steroids to these injuries? No, but you just did. > I have no idea, Then why bring it up? > medical experts will have to determine that. I thought you had no idea? > But signing this guy to a 10-year contract looks like a decision that will haunt the franchise for years to come. They had a chance to be free of him and they let it pass. Awful, awful, awful. can’t imagine they would have signed Manny had they known about this a week ago. But they should have. Why not? I mean, what’s another 50 million (we know NY wasn’t getting out for 2/45)? I guess a half billion dollars in the offseason just doesn’t do what it should. > Well, it’s not free standing, but still… It’s an impressive jump and I’m sure Ransom is a fantastic athlete, but jumping onto a 55″ box is not a 55″ vertical leap. Skywalker had a 48″ vertical. AG- at some point, one has to ask themself if everyone under the sun has something bad to say about a guy, it might not be the reporters fault. What Pete Says is his opinion, right? He’s not alone, man. “There is no problem here anyhow – NY will just spend another few million for fill-in. Maybe eat half of the Beltre contract to fill in. Nothing the checkbook can’t solve.” Brad being Brad…gotta love it. That’s what backups and depth are for. No reason the Yankees can’t win with ARod healing up for the first month or so of the season. We have a few other players in case you haven’t noticed… This might be a good thing. Get ARod back to 100% as well as keep him out of the lineup for the first month so the rest of the team doesn’t have to deal with the circus? I high jumped 5’11” in the tenth grade. Unless it’s free standing, pretty much everyone with a hint of athletic ability can get that high in the air. Free standing is the only measure of a vertical leap worth looking at. It’s the eqivalent of giving a running start to a 50 yd dash. Riiiggghhht.. “It’s just Brad being Brad” Turn on the radio. Listen to what eveyone else is saying before you insinuate that it’s just me thinking NY needs to make a move. Trust me, I’d love for them to hold pat and not do it. > What Pete Says is his opinion, right? Absolutely. “Why not? I mean, what’s another 50 million (we know NY wasn’t getting out for 2/45)? I guess a half billion dollars in the offseason just doesn’t do what it should.” You are the biggest hater on here…it’s ridiculous. Right on AG…it’s a media driven witch hunt at this point. Am I? Is it rediculous to assume that a team with a payroll over 200M dollars shouldn’t have fans pining for the idea of signing another player to replace an injured one? I didn’t make the crap up, Krueg. Every single press outlet in the world right now is asking “what is NY going to do” which I find downright hilarious given the amount of money invested in that team. The replacement guy is someone known more for his high jump than his baseball skills. I’m just pointing out the insanity of the idea. There is a difference between being a hater and saying something that you don’t like to hear. I agree, though: it will be good for the team to not have to deal with A-Rod’s press crap for the first part of the season. It’s not that you think a move needs to me made…it’s the passive aggresive “Nothing the checkbook can’t solve” comment. You know you are a hater, I’m just surprised you aren’t called on it more often. P.S. Sox are a big money team. Yep. It’s a driven witch hunt with every single journalist, former coach, beat writer, and anyone else who has ever come into contact with the guy. That’s my guess to..a witch hunt!! We don’t have a $200 million payroll… I am going to defend the Yankees here – there’s no good reason to think the Yankees can throw money at this problem right now, not with the economy, not with the stadium still having open seats, and not with them having already thrown hundreds of millions of dollars around this offseason. They may yet throw money at the problem, but one can’t assume they will: everyone has a budget. And krueg, let’s not go into the “Sox are a big money team” thing here, it’s not relevant to this issue, it will derail the discussion. Who said they’re weren’t, K? Why are you starting a fight here? What did NY do to solve the problems at first base and starting rotation this year? What has NY historically done to solve problems? It’s not passive aggressive to suggest they might actually keep with their recent history..Should I list them for you? I’m well aware of Boston’s payroll..I’m not insinuating in any way that if the same would happen to Boston, they shouldn’t do the same. Well, really if Lowell went down, they’d move Youk (what’s that contract again?), then call up the best 1B prospect in baseball, right? Maybe I should get a “I’m a hater” T-shirt or something, so people can “call me out” on it more often? He admitted it. He’s been shamed. What else do people (namely, you and the media it would seem) want??? By continuing to dig, pry, speculate, etc. it is just meant to destroy the guy more so than he already has been, no? Isn’t that a witch hunt? going to defend the Yankees here – there’s no good reason to think the Yankees can throw money at this problem right now, not with the economy, not with the stadium still having open seats, and not with them having already thrown hundreds of millions of dollars around this offseason. Weren’t all those conditions met before Texiera? In fact, weren’t all those conditions met before any of the half billion dollars were spent in December and January? I have no problem with Brad pointing out the fact that the radio/print sharks are feasting on this. That’s to be expected (the sharks that is). That there is a yet another media frenzy does not equate to any truth. Kreug, the guy is my favorite position player of all time, man. You’re assuming that it’s something I want to happen to him. But, I think everything the guy is getting is exactly what he’s asked for throughout the years. It’s not a witch hunt – if people, mainly the press, thought he was being honest (like Pettitte was) they’d leave it alone (like with Pettite, and to a lesser example, Giambi), but they don’t. He keeps lying to them, and telling half-truths, so each reporter keeps trying to be the next to catch the lie. It’s his own fault. sorry, Krueg. I’m not starting anything and I certainly haven’t said anything that isn’t in line with Brad’s comments. So Brad can talk about the Yankees but I can’t talk about the Sox? This is OK: “There is no problem here anyhow – NY will just spend another few million for fill-in. Maybe eat half of the Beltre contract to fill in. Nothing the checkbook can’t solve.” But this: “Sox are a big money team.” Is a problem? Seriously? I must be missing something. I know I don’t come on here as much as I used to but am I missing something? It’s cool for Brad to basically insult the Yankees under his breath, but I’m not allowed to refute? OK. Got it. This news isn’t likely to endear ARod to the New York fanbase at first, but maybe a 10-week hiatus from the spotlight is just what Scott Boras the doctor ordered. P.S., re. … “Can you draw a line from three years of steroids to these injuries?” You’re assuming ARod is telling the truth about that three-year thingy. I guess I’m just reading into your posts… Again, I didn’t make the stuff up. Turn on the radio – every single one of them is asking what NY is going to do..my response was more in line with what I heard there, from media and uniformed fans, than what I thought would happen. In fact, right now they’re talking about moving Tex to third and signing a first baseman instead. Really. I wasn’t comparing the Red Sox or the Yankees here – you were. As I said, I’m well aware of the payroll. I’m more making fun of the outcry over all this and they hilarity that surrounds the idea tha Cashman has built a team that doesn’t know what will happen if one guy goes down – when looked at through the sheer cost of the team. Hudson, that’s exactly right. NOBODY except NY fans, and even some of them aren’t completely sure, that the “only 3 years” story is worth the paper it’s being printed on. . Which is why they keep digging, and questioning, and digging some more. He’s the only one, besides Bonds and Clemens, that they’re doing that with. The common bond – eveyone thinks they’re lying. You are very opinionated about the Yankees, fans, management, etc. and it really rubs me the wrong way sometimes because it seems, to me, that you always get a dig in with your comments. Maybe I’m reading into things as I said before. I’m just sick of all the Yankee/Sox garbage and this is the one place where I can come and read/post with level headed adults. I’m in no way saying you are not a level-headed adult, I just feel like you dig. I’m just being honest and letting you know where I’m coming from so don’t blow up… Other side is that I’m on overly-sensitive douche. Probably that’s it since no other YF’s seem to have a problem with the posts that I do. Maybe I should just move on… And, if he comes back after this cyst caused by a torn labrum, and hits 20 HR’s for the rest of the year, it’s only going to get worse for him. K, I wasn’t offended. And you’re right, I very often dig on the comments, but they’re not meant to piss off anyone. Really, I just ammuse myself with them more than anything. I use the facts to my disposal, man!:) Just give me a hug, you big lug. ha. And it’s not that the other Yankee fans don’t take offense to my style, we’ve just been down that road, and well eventually end up here. Nick, DC, and even YF himeslf have all had long, ongoing arguments over Yanks and Sox that went ugly and turned back around. DC and I once held a “who’s more vauluable Giambi or Wakefield” argumnet for about 6 months. It was insane – but we’ve all come around from our stupid comments. Who’s a better signing, DC – Pavano or Clement? hahahahahahahahaha. We don’t have a payroll over $200 million… Jeez, krueg, did you not read the whole first paragraph of my post opposing everything Brad said about throwing money at the problem? To repeat: I am going to defend the Yankees here – there’s no good reason to think the Yankees can throw money at this problem right now, not with the economy, not with the stadium still having open seats, and not with them having already thrown hundreds of millions of dollars around this offseason. They may yet throw money at the problem, but one can’t assume they will: everyone has a budget. I am just moderating. If this discussion turns into an “us vs. them the Sox are rich too!” argument that would be too bad, since it is not relevant to how the Yankees solve A-Rod’s absence. > > “Can you draw a line from three years of steroids..” > You’re assuming ARod is telling the truth about that three-year thingy. Pete wrote that, not I. Worth nothing, and I shouldn’t waste your time noting it, but I do not think Alex disclosed everything about his usage of substances which he knew or should have known to be illegal at the time of usage. I also do not care that he didn’t. No surgery, per the No Maas fav. The cyst was drained and he has a torn hip labrum. http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/hip-labral-tear/DS00920 Really? Even with that luxury tax figure and increases to arbitration players? Are some players not making a lot of money this year, but deferred to another year? I’m being serious, I don’t know. Yeah, Heyman just said they drained it, which will negate the need for surgery by about 50% – meaning that half the time draining works, and half the time it just goes back to the same in a few weeks, thus making it a few weeks further along, and delaying the comeback date. If I were the Yankees here, I’d take my chances and get it fixed now, rather than run the risk of it acting up in July again. Reason #136 for why A-Rod generates so much press: Over 100 comments at YFSF in less than 24 hours involving an inarticulate comment and a false report about an injury. Imagine what would happened if he admitted to PED use! Then you have a guy like Abraham one day fanning the ashes and the next pouring water on them. Rob: The attention to an injury to the world’s best baseball player at a site devoted to his team has little to do with the phenomenon of Alex “Lightning Rod” Rodriguez and more to do with the potentially significant impact of an injury on the world’s best baseball player. Was reading on ESPN that 10 weeks recovery for this kind of injury/procedure is very optomistic. Also read in Newsday that Girardi wasn’t confirming the story? What was the false report? Did I miss something? I thought he went in for a cyst, had a cyst, and now had it drained. Does the rest matter? – everyone is going to draw their own conclusions anyhow. Torn labrum? What causes muscles to start tearing? It doesn’t matter what he says – people are going to break it apart on him. Sweeny Murdi just said that if they opt for the surgery, he’s out for at least 4 months before being ready to take the field, so I retract the last statement about opting for the surgery. Cashman is the one who updated the press with the 4 month recover if they need surgery, and they haven’t decided which route they’re going to go. They need to wait two or three days to see how the draining plan goes. Very optimistic, K. Alright Brad…big hug. I’ll try and relax and roll with the punches. My bad. I read last week that the estimated payroll was around $190 million. I could be wrong? And yesterday? Don’t hurt yourself moving the goalposts. P.s. I wasn’t disparaging this site. I was remarking on how non-stories are created and amplified. It’s a story if he’s really hurt. But for both ESPN and NY Times to give a translated report top of the fold treatment? It would be so ironic if he was out for the season and the Yankees went on to win it all…can you imagine? Am I the only person that thinks we’ll be fine without him? Don’t hurt yourself moving the goalposts. Yesterday involved the “inarticulate comment”, no? No, and I refuse to imagine it. It’s a horrible thought, A-Rod or no A-Rod! Rob, I think there was enough pushback at this site about the “inarticulate comment” to illustrate that we here at YFSF are sufficiently skeptical of the coverage of this man we call “Lightning Rod”. Am I the only person that thinks we’ll be fine without him? Fine in third place. I’m not critiquing the coverage here. Just the volume. The fact that even that one comment, or one mediot report, leads to so much whiplash gnashing. “This might be a good thing. Get ARod back to 100% as well as keep him out of the lineup for the first month so the rest of the team doesn’t have to deal with the circus?” There is a conspiracy side to me that actually thought about this. Of course, I’m now adding to that volume. Yeah, I think you’re on that island by yourself, Krueg. I think anytime you remove that caliber a player, one that the entire offense is centered around, you damage the squad. Like always, he’s going to win a lot of games for NY, so losing him is a hit to say the least. Rob – I thought you were just talking about today, bud. > And yesterday? People like to talk about stuff. Some are right. Some are wrong. Some are jerks. Doesn’t skin my cat that room numbers two and three look pretty crowded, because more often than not I’m in there with them. Nady has played 3 games at third base. I guarantee this is the way they’re going to go with all the time left before the season. Before it all starts, he will have fielded 10000 balls at third base and will hold that spot till A-Rod comes back. Chalk it. Can Berroa play third? Seriously? Based on three games, and 18 innings, in 2005 you’re predicting that? People like to talk about stuff. Sure. And I have no problem with that. I was just using the volume as a measure to show how ridiculous the spotlight is. Has any other post in the last week reached that same comment level as the last two? What is it about A-Rod that draws all of us in? And I’d venture that we’re some of the more knowledgeable, media-savvy, fans. No wonder the rags, Abraham included, constantly feature him. He makes them money. ESPN and the NY Times too. But Texeria’s numbers are close to ARods…and our pitching staff is INFINITELY better. Call me crazy, but we’ll be fine. I guess we’re going to learn a great deal about all of this. If ARod is such a bad teammate, everyone hates him and he is such a cancer, we should be fine without him. No doubt we have a better team overall than last year… I don’t even read the Post anymore…it reminds me of the weekly newspaper at my high school way back when. The nerdy, intellectual girls writing mean articles about the popular ones. Talk about a garbage newspaper. Can Berroa play third? Dear God, please no. Rob, I was kidding man. But, I can see it! The nerdy, intellectual girls writing mean articles about the popular ones. hahahahahahahahahahahahaha. LoHud now reporting that he will eventually need surgery, according to Cashman, but they are going to try and put it off till the end of the season. That sounds like a hell of a plan, 162 games on a bum hip is perfectly safe. How’d that work out for Mike Lowell at the end of last year? I think he did ok for a spell, then the injury worsened and he fell off a cliff. As for the “volume”, this latest thing, the injury, is a reasonable topic for intense discussion. He’s the best player in the world, and may have an injury that could have far-reaching impact on the AL East. This injury and the attention focused on it are newsworthy, and the attention is neither artificial nor sensational, like with the Reyes comments. If it’s that dodgy, I think the Yankees should encourage him to get the surgery. No sense jeopardizing the remaining 8 years on the contract. Got to have priorities. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090305/ap_on_sp_ba_ne/bba_yankees_a_rod_s_hip_16 Maybe four months? Maybe no surgery? This is rowdy. Well, if he can get you to the playoffs, they probably are thinking they have the arms to help get them through it. But, that’s a big maybe as well. Maybe pick up a third baseman, and use A-Rod to just DH. Dump Matsui/Damon on someone, and sign a good defensive third baseman for the cheap. There has to be one out there somewhere.. http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=txarodinjury&prov=st&type=lgns Now he won’t have surgery… (sorry if someone already posted this info, I cannot see all the comments here at work unless I post something…) I think we should all just wait the few days to a week and see how the drainage goes. Cashman just said that he didn’t know what they were going to do, but some are saying that he won’t have the surgery. Everyone wants to be the guy to have the noodle stick to the wall. Everything about A-Rod is like trade rumors – nobody knows anything until it happens! Cashman going to be on WFAN at 5pm to discuss this. As long as the person at third base is a solid defensive player and can bunt, we’re OK. and now for distraction, dr. gerbil sez there are many options available for dangerously underweighted individuals like yourself. I recommend a slow steady gorging process combined with assal horizontology. You’ll want to focus on the neglected food groups such as the whipped group, the congealed group and the chocotastic! Instead of making sandwiches with bread, use poptarts. Instead of chewing gum, chew bacon. And remember, if you’re not sure about something, rub it against a piece of paper. If the paper turns clear, it’s your window to weight gain. Sorry, just after 5pm click 4 times to get to the end of 94 comments… sorry guys… we will fix this. Funniest thing I’ve ever heard AG! bummer… http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2009/02/twins-sign-joe.html Only if the surgery has to happen, DC. I mean, I’m sure that it’s going to have to happen at some point, but that’s only bad news if it has to happen this year.. The link DC posted only has “twins-sign-joe” at the end. I thought that meant they had signed Joe Mauer to a long-term extension, thus closing that option to the Yankees. I was really excited for a second there. I say the GIANTs are the BEST. Love them lol:) Comments are closed.