A Tale of Two Boroughs: Yanks-Mets Gamers III & IV

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It was the best of stadiums, it was the worst of stadiums…

The Yanks are coming off a big win on Wednesday night in which the offense, defense, and pitching all clicked, and a frustrating 3-1-lead-negating rain-out last night.  Sleepy and undoubtedly a bit ornery, they return to The City today for only the third ever Mets-Yanks split-stadium double-header, with the Yanks having won all four of the previous borough-bridging match-ups in 2000 and 2003, but 0-2 vs. the Mets in 2008.

This is a big series for both teams, and not just because of trivial intra-city bragging rights.  The Yankees have played well since they last faced the Mets, going 22-11 since May 21, but have only picked up 1.5 games each against AL East leading Boston and secon-place Tampa Bay, who are 21-13 and 20-12 respectively over that same stretch.

Of course, gaining any ground with the jumbled starting rotation that the Yanks have had is encouraging, but the patchwork quilt that is the Yanks’ starting rotation will have a spotlight shone on it this weekend, with Giese (effective in one game but most unproven), Ponson (social misfit and big — fat — question mark), and Rasner (proven to be gritty, but perhaps in over his head) going in three of the four matchups and reliable Andy Pettitte matched up against Mets ace Johan Santana in the other.

As for the Mets, this weekend is the start of perhaps the toughest stretch of their season, with eight straight road games against the Cadinals and Phillies – owners of the 2nd and 3rd best records in the NL respectively – to follow.

Neither team expected to be occupying 3rd place in their respective divisions at this stage of the season, so even though it is too early for any series to be make or break, it is safe to say that this weekend’s series – beginning with today’s twosome – means a lot more to both than who gets to sit a little taller on the Gotham subways next week.

Giese faces off against Pelfrey in the Bronx day-game and Ponson faces Pedro in the Queens nightcap.

Comment away…

208 comments… add one
  • Had tickets to this debacle, but unfortunately I have a game tonight and cannot attend. By debacle I mean scheduling this game at 2 PM on a Friday when I cannot be there.
    Pete Abe is saying that it looks like Matsui will hit the DL when Ponson is activated. He also takes a pretty funny shot at Pittsburgh, he says “Memo to the mayor of Pittsburgh: Invest in another cab. The one you have is always busy.”
    Any idea if they are ever going to call up Gardner? I would like to see this kid in person. No disrespect to Christian, but I would rather see this kid play when other OF’s need a break.

    John - YF June 27, 2008, 12:10 pm
  • PS – I think YF and SF should get in on all this PSL talk. Being that I am most likely going to have to put up $20,000 if I want to continue to sit in my current seats, what’s another couple Hundred.
    Here’s what I am thinking:
    $100 PSL – Get’s you lunch with YF and SF. As well as the ability to comment without limitations. It also gets you 24/7 – 365 help desk assistance provided by AG.
    $50 PSL – Gets you lunch with me and IH (by lunch we mean a dirty water dog and a water) at your choice of Bronx locations. An autographed YFSF T-Shirt, signed by all your favorites.
    $25 PSL – Gets you a day with Nick in his classroom as living show and tell. Nick will provide you with an elaborate lunch filled with unlimited sloppy joe’s, those tiny little chocolate milks and all the raisins and apple slices one man/woman can consume.

    John - YF June 27, 2008, 12:27 pm
  • You should make those images clickable and blowup-able. That would be nice. =)

    Lar June 27, 2008, 12:31 pm
  • Are those stadium pics motivational posters? Well, the Yankee one might be. The Shea Stadium one is from Despair.com. Caption: “Effort doesn’t accomplish much when you don’t know what you’re doing.”
    Go Mets!

    FenSheaParkway June 27, 2008, 12:34 pm
  • $100 PSL – Get’s you lunch with YF and SF. As well as the ability to comment without limitations
    Typepad basically makes the limitless commenting free (we pay so you don’t!), and really, who wants to have lunch with YF?!

    SF June 27, 2008, 12:42 pm
  • “we pay so you don’t!”
    Well now you ruined it! So you are telling me I can continue to comment and do something I have done for years without buying a PSL? Don’t let the Mara’s get wind of this, it will ruin their master plan!

    John - YF June 27, 2008, 12:46 pm
  • I need to drink or some other mind-altering substance so that I can endure seeing Ponson in a Yankee uniform…again!.
    And John, your $25/Nick offer made me think of the Adam Sandler/Chris Farley sketch…”Sloppy Joe, sloppy sloppy joe!!!”. Classic.

    IronHorse (yf) June 27, 2008, 1:04 pm
  • Wait, Ponson is a Yankee? Geez, I missed a lot when I was out of town.

    Atheose June 27, 2008, 1:08 pm
  • Giese hurt in the first by the strike zone. Walk to Castillo, falls behind to Wright, and the Mets are up 1-0.

    YF June 27, 2008, 2:20 pm
  • Yankee Killer Trot Nixon (and his .148 batting average) is starting in RF and batting sixth for the Mets.

    I'm Bill McNeal June 27, 2008, 2:22 pm
  • I’m glad Trot is back in the bigs, but as a Met?

    I'm Bill McNeal June 27, 2008, 2:23 pm
  • Melky Ks. We are much worse off when Damon is not leading off.

    IronHorse (yf) June 27, 2008, 2:23 pm
  • Jeter Ks. Pelfrey throwing smoke so far everything 93+ mph

    IronHorse (yf) June 27, 2008, 2:24 pm
  • Newest Met and all-around good guy/former Yank Andy Phillips may see some action at 1B in the nightcap.

    IronHorse (yf) June 27, 2008, 2:25 pm
  • Abreu walks. A-Rod takes a ball…

    IronHorse (yf) June 27, 2008, 2:26 pm
  • By the way, I’m trying to unload ARod in the fantasy league. Anyone interested that has a good 3B or SS to give me in return?

    Atheose June 27, 2008, 2:30 pm
  • A-Rod bloops Bobby to 3rd. First and third, Thong-Stache at the plate.

    IronHorse (yf) June 27, 2008, 2:30 pm
  • Go Giambi!

    Lar June 27, 2008, 2:34 pm
  • Thonged it to left. RBI, 1st and 3rd.
    Love that Stache hits to left so much more this year.

    IronHorse (yf) June 27, 2008, 2:34 pm
  • Giambi hits it the other way. That’s how he can hit for average.. now up to 270 and yet another RBI. Tied game.

    Lar June 27, 2008, 2:35 pm
  • Posada Ks. Ho hum. At least we’re on the board.
    I’m so procrastinating work right now that it is criminal. Weekday day games are a blessing and a curse.

    IronHorse (yf) June 27, 2008, 2:37 pm
  • And the Yanks get it back in the same style: a walk and a couple of dunkers from ARod and Giambi.
    Pelfrey’s stuff looks pretty nasty. He and Giese both feature a tailing fastball that rides in on righties. In the old days this was known as a screwball. Pelfrey throws his a good bit harder.

    YF June 27, 2008, 2:38 pm
  • Walking on 4 pitches = bad. Especially if the batter is below the Mendoza line.

    Lar June 27, 2008, 2:41 pm
  • 1st and 3rd no outs after A-Rod decides – poorly – to throw from his knees to 1st base.

    IronHorse (yf) June 27, 2008, 2:44 pm
  • Shallow pop-up. Perfect. DP please…

    IronHorse (yf) June 27, 2008, 2:46 pm
  • IH must’ve forgot an out somewhere, so we don’t actually need a DP..

    Lar June 27, 2008, 2:48 pm
  • I love it. That’s right Giese-man…I AM dangerous…no runs, Yanks coming up

    IronHorse (yf) June 27, 2008, 2:48 pm
  • Reyes did ground out though. End of 1.5, tied at 1.

    Lar June 27, 2008, 2:49 pm
  • Yah Lar – sorry. There is about 5% of my brain that is focused on the work I am supposed to be doing and the out must have taken place while that portion was engaged…

    IronHorse (yf) June 27, 2008, 2:49 pm
  • That GameDay interface is cool — but slightly (by which I mean very) unnecessary. Do we really need to do Google Earth treatment for a freaking strike zone?

    Paul SF June 27, 2008, 2:50 pm
  • Cano lines a double to the gap. He is starting to smoke the ball. When he is bad he is terrible. When he is on, he looks like one of the best hitters in the game. His stroke – both pulling and hitting the other way – is beautiful when he is not swinging at pitches over his head.
    Bestemit up.

    IronHorse (yf) June 27, 2008, 2:51 pm
  • Cano, continuing his recent hot streak, doubles to center. Lead off double usually leads to good things, but can the Yanks make it true this time?

    Lar June 27, 2008, 2:52 pm
  • Betemit can’t even hit a ground ball and we’ve got one out, Cano on 2nd…

    IronHorse (yf) June 27, 2008, 2:54 pm
  • Betemit couldn’t even move Cano to third. Strikes out and wastes an opportunity to score without a base hit here..

    Lar June 27, 2008, 2:54 pm
  • Christian grounds out. Man on third, Melky at the plate. Drive him in!!!!

    IronHorse (yf) June 27, 2008, 2:54 pm
  • Here’s the rookie (?) or at least the newcomer, Christian, who has some hits and RBIs.
    Okay, he just grounded out, but moving Cano to third in the process. Unforunately, there are two outs, so Melky will have to do something to drive him in.

    Lar June 27, 2008, 2:55 pm
  • Fly out. Our RISP hitting the past 2 weeks – save Wed’s game – has been embarassing. Thanks for being here Lar…we may be echoing our comments but at least we’re not alone!

    IronHorse (yf) June 27, 2008, 2:56 pm
  • Melky goes the other way and the Yanks strand a guy at second with no outs. Yuck.

    Lar June 27, 2008, 2:56 pm
  • IH – ya, it does seem like we’re saying the same thing, almost the same way. Haha. It’s a slow Friday here..

    Lar June 27, 2008, 2:57 pm
  • In retrospect, my buddy actually had tickets to this game and was trying to get me to go. Probably wouldn’t have been a bad idea..

    Lar June 27, 2008, 2:57 pm
  • To be fair, the game which was cancelled yesterday, we were driving them in too. Unforunately, it no longer counts.. boo.

    Lar June 27, 2008, 2:59 pm
  • Giese has been getting out of jams a bit, but he’s not making things easy for himself. A leadoff single by Castillo with the meat of the lineup coming right up.

    Lar June 27, 2008, 3:00 pm
  • Castillo steals second during a long battle with Wright. Wright been fouling off a bit.. after 7 pitches the count is still 2-2.

    Lar June 27, 2008, 3:05 pm
  • Wright ends the AB by flying out. But still, a man on second with one out.

    Lar June 27, 2008, 3:06 pm
  • 2-run homer for Beltran. D%*n. 3-1 Mets.

    IronHorse (yf) June 27, 2008, 3:09 pm
  • Beltran clears the bases with a two run HR. 3-1 Mets.

    Lar June 27, 2008, 3:09 pm
  • Delgado strikes out. 2 outs.

    Lar June 27, 2008, 3:12 pm
  • Homerun Carlos beltran! 3-1 Mets.
    Sorry for voicing my pleasure, guys.

    Atheose June 27, 2008, 3:12 pm
  • Inning over. Giese slogging through. 3-1. Let’s go bats…

    IronHorse (yf) June 27, 2008, 3:14 pm
  • Jeter doubles on cue. Another lead-off extra base hit. Let’s go meat-of-the-order…

    IronHorse (yf) June 27, 2008, 3:16 pm
  • Indeed. Indeed.

    Lar June 27, 2008, 3:16 pm
  • Jeter doubles to lead off the inning. With the middle of the lineup up, hopefully the Yanks will fare better this time around..

    Lar June 27, 2008, 3:17 pm
  • Abreu moves Jeter to third, at least. So hopefully we’ll get at least a run back.

    Lar June 27, 2008, 3:18 pm
  • Pelfrey makes no secret that he’s pitching around ARod. The pitches are not remotely close. 3-0 as I submit this.

    Lar June 27, 2008, 3:19 pm
  • A-Rod smoked it – RBI, Yanks losing 3-2. Porn star at the plate.

    IronHorse (yf) June 27, 2008, 3:20 pm
  • ARod singles to drive Jeter in. Lead is cut in half, 3-2 Mets. I guess they should’ve walked him and set up for the DP after all!
    Here’s Giambi with 1 out and ARod at first (and not afraid to take second!)

    Lar June 27, 2008, 3:21 pm
  • ARod drives Jeter in, 3-2 now. Seriously, does anyone want ARod in the fantasy league? I don’t want him.

    Atheose June 27, 2008, 3:22 pm
  • G man walks on 4 straight pitches after starting 0-1. Let’s go Jorge!

    Lar June 27, 2008, 3:24 pm
  • Posada up with men on 1st and 2nd. Posada bloops one in there – bases loaded. Here comes hot-hitting Robbie…let’s hope he can buck his unimpressive bases-loaded history and knock a couple in here.

    IronHorse (yf) June 27, 2008, 3:25 pm
  • Jorge blooped one into left for a single. ARod can’t score, so it’ll be bases loaded for the hopefully still hot Cano.

    Lar June 27, 2008, 3:25 pm
  • Pelfrey afraid of the strike zone, looks like.

    Paul SF June 27, 2008, 3:26 pm
  • Bases loaded for Cano, who grounds out but gets an RBI for it. He’s in my fantasy league, so it’s totally awesome.

    Atheose June 27, 2008, 3:27 pm
  • Cano grounds out to fielder’s choice, but ARod scores. Tied game, men at corners, 2 outs.

    Lar June 27, 2008, 3:27 pm
  • Atheose, only me and Lar in here it seems and as I don’t do fantasy leagues so you might not get takers here…
    Cano hits it hard – Reyes saves it but can’t turn the DP. Game tied. nice play Reyes. Good job Robbie.
    Weak tapper to Wright at third, Wright can’t throw out Betemit, and the Yanks go up 4-3. Action is fast and furious here! Anyone want to take a pitch?!?!?!

    IronHorse (yf) June 27, 2008, 3:28 pm
  • Who the hell is Justin Christian and why is he playing for the Yankees?

    Atheose June 27, 2008, 3:28 pm
  • Betemit singles on a tough play to Dave Wright and the Yanks take the lead 4-3, with men on first and second, two outs, here’s Christian.

    Lar June 27, 2008, 3:28 pm
  • So first and second, Pelfrey on his 60th pitch, young Christian at the plate – Ks…oh well.

    IronHorse (yf) June 27, 2008, 3:29 pm
  • Atheose – Nope, you’re stuck with him.
    Paul – That’s been Pelfrey’s problem at the MLB level. For whatever reason (and it might be fear, as you suggest) his pitches travel like there’s some sort of force field protecting the zone. Incredibly frustrating.

    FenSheaParkway June 27, 2008, 3:30 pm
  • Atheose, Christian was brought up from S WB when both Damon (foot arch issues) and Matsui (left knee issues) went down. Damon played in his first game back yesterday and will probably play again tonight. Matsui is out and may even need a DL stint.
    Christian is – I think 4-9 or 3-9 in his first 2.5 games for the Yanks and has a coulpe RBIs and a run scored. Lots of YFs would prefer to see Gardner brought up, but it seems clear that Christian’s speed (he had something like 18 stolen and 2 CS in the minors) was one of the main factors in bringing him up. Girardi wants him to wreak havoc on the basepads.

    IronHorse (yf) June 27, 2008, 3:31 pm
  • Holy crap. 130 pitches combined to get through three innings. This is gonna be a long one. Bad way to start a doubleheader.

    I'm Bill McNeal June 27, 2008, 3:32 pm
  • Horse, when do we start arguing over who would win a footrace between Ellsbury and Christian?

    I'm Bill McNeal June 27, 2008, 3:34 pm
  • Was AFK for a bit, but I see Christian did not drive them in. Ah well, still up 4-3, I suppose.
    The bottom of the lineup, let’s go Giese, make it easy!

    Lar June 27, 2008, 3:36 pm
  • Ath – I’ll take ARod, but I don’t think I have anyone to offer you.. haha..

    Lar June 27, 2008, 3:37 pm
  • Giese gets by a relatively painless 4th. Here’s to hope the Yanks will tack on a few as the top of the order is back up.

    Lar June 27, 2008, 3:38 pm
  • Giese has a quick 4th, which was exactly what he needed. At 81 pitches he won’t be going past 5, unless he has a VERY quick 5th.

    Atheose June 27, 2008, 3:38 pm
  • Does he have a pitch count? I didn’t look it up.
    Melky with a leadoff single, always a good thing.

    Lar June 27, 2008, 3:40 pm
  • Jeter moved Melky to second with a sac bunt. At least he didn’t GIDP, I suppose. Here’s the middle of the lineup with 1 out and man on second.
    It’s almost as if we played this game before!

    Lar June 27, 2008, 3:41 pm
  • How about Kazmir, Lar? Kazmir is averaging 9 points a game, and ARod is at like 3.50 per game, and Kazmir only plays once every 5 days. ARod would be a huge improvement for you over Melvin Mora, and you can pick up a league-average pitcher to replace Kazmir.

    Atheose June 27, 2008, 3:41 pm
  • I don’t think he has a pitch count Lar, but after the 5th he’ll be in the mid 90’s. I don’t think Girardi will keep him out that long.

    Atheose June 27, 2008, 3:42 pm
  • 2nd and 3rd, 2 outs, porn star up. He’s certainly had plenty of chances to drive in runs – 1 RBI for him so far.

    IronHorse (yf) June 27, 2008, 3:45 pm
  • 3-1. Get ready to unleash the thong on this one baby…

    IronHorse (yf) June 27, 2008, 3:45 pm
  • Giambi walks. Posada up, bases loaded, 2 outs.

    IronHorse (yf) June 27, 2008, 3:46 pm
  • Ya, I think ~100 is probably a reasonable count. The “good” thing about yesterday’s rainout is that the bullpen are rested, at least.
    Abreu reaches on an error, but ARod could not do anything, though he does move the runners up to 2nd and 3rd, but now with two outs.
    Giambi a single away from opening this game up a bit.

    Lar June 27, 2008, 3:46 pm
  • No thong power today–he takes ball 4. Thank god.

    Atheose June 27, 2008, 3:46 pm
  • Giambi walks, so the barton is passed to Posada. I would take another walk, I don’t mind! =)
    I don’t know about Kaz. I *think* I’m making the playoffs this season, so I need the volatility for those short 1 week series.. =) Though in that sense, honestly he might not be a good fit because they might shut him down anyhow. I don’t know.
    I will give it some thought though. I do like Kazmir, and I’m not the most rational fantasy player there is.. haha..

    Lar June 27, 2008, 3:47 pm
  • 2-2 on Posada. This is clearly one of those score-in-bunches games…let’s not leave a village on the basepads here…

    IronHorse (yf) June 27, 2008, 3:49 pm
  • The Mets are the Glass Joe of baseball.  Easy pickins.

    SF June 27, 2008, 3:49 pm
  • You want to see Kazmir’s start tonight and decide from that, eh? ;-)

    Atheose June 27, 2008, 3:49 pm
  • Fly out. D*%n

    IronHorse (yf) June 27, 2008, 3:49 pm
  • Pelfrey throwing nothing but fastballs. Posada couldn’t handle that one and the game stays close, 4-3 Yanks.
    8 hits and 3 walks for 11 baserunners and we only got 4 runs. Bah.
    Pelfrey up to 80 pitches now. We might’ve been a single or two from knocking him out – which would be doubly great because the Mets bullpen is supposed to be awful, but also because it’s a doubleheader.

    Lar June 27, 2008, 3:51 pm
  • Do…not…walk…Reyes…

    IronHorse (yf) June 27, 2008, 3:52 pm
  • National League #3 starters are American League mop-up men.

    SF June 27, 2008, 3:52 pm
  • That’s just terrible. Reyes is as good as on second with that walk.

    IronHorse (yf) June 27, 2008, 3:53 pm
  • Giese suddenly can’t find the strikezone, walking Reyes. Time to test Posada’s arm.

    Atheose June 27, 2008, 3:54 pm
  • I don’t know what Giese wants to do, but walking Reyes as the leadoff hitter is probably near the bottom of that list.

    Lar June 27, 2008, 3:54 pm
  • National League #3 starters are American League mop-up men.
    Case and point: Joel Piniero.

    Atheose June 27, 2008, 3:54 pm
  • That’s a lot of respect.. two straight pitchouts. Unforunately, he’ll probably go, say, now.

    Lar June 27, 2008, 3:55 pm
  • Two pitch-outs in a row. Reyes not going. then he steals it and we’ve got a 3-1 pitch coming. Lovely.

    IronHorse (yf) June 27, 2008, 3:55 pm
  • Wow, Reyes isn’t running? I would have gone for a certain after the 2nd pitchout.

    Atheose June 27, 2008, 3:56 pm
  • Wait nm, he did run. It was so fast I missed it!

    Atheose June 27, 2008, 3:56 pm
  • 3-2…walks him. Giese has walked four. Before this he had walked one in 14 innings.

    IronHorse (yf) June 27, 2008, 3:57 pm
  • Giese made the SB moot… by walking Castillo.

    Lar June 27, 2008, 3:57 pm
  • Let’s hope Wright hit into a triple play.

    Lar June 27, 2008, 3:57 pm
  • Base hit. Reyes held. Bases loaded with no outs. Girardi coming out to pull Giese. Well at least the new pitcher will have plenty of company on the field…

    IronHorse (yf) June 27, 2008, 3:59 pm
  • He doesn’t, singles, but Reyes is held up. No one out, bases loaded, here’s Beltran, who already hit a HR..

    Lar June 27, 2008, 3:59 pm
  • Wright singles and that’s the end of the day for Giese. Bases loaded, no outs and The Skinny One on the mound.

    Atheose June 27, 2008, 4:00 pm
  • Giese is done after 4, despite holding a lead, but couldn’t get anyone out this inning. Edwar will be coming in.

    Lar June 27, 2008, 4:00 pm
  • Erkel coming in. I like this call. He can get Ks. Of course, he hasn’t exactly been given much breathing room.

    IronHorse (yf) June 27, 2008, 4:01 pm
  • Ground ball – only one out as Jeter’s throw is wide.

    IronHorse (yf) June 27, 2008, 4:02 pm
  • And as if to spite IH, Edwar gives up a run on the first pitch.

    Atheose June 27, 2008, 4:02 pm
  • Beltran likes the first pitch he saw as Reyes scores on an RBI ground out.

    Lar June 27, 2008, 4:03 pm
  • At this pace this game is going to go until 7pm or so.

    SF June 27, 2008, 4:03 pm
  • Let’s get a DP in here and we’ll get out of the inning!

    Lar June 27, 2008, 4:04 pm
  • 2-run double. 6-4 Mets.

    IronHorse (yf) June 27, 2008, 4:04 pm
  • Got the double part right! Carlos!

    FenSheaParkway June 27, 2008, 4:05 pm
  • Sigh. The lack of hitting is coming back to haunt us easily, as Delgado doubles in two to give the Mets a 6-4 lead.

    Lar June 27, 2008, 4:05 pm
  • I’d get angry at Erkel but ‘ve got to cut him some slack – after all, he’s only 13.

    IronHorse (yf) June 27, 2008, 4:05 pm
  • Now he gets the K.

    IronHorse (yf) June 27, 2008, 4:06 pm
  • Trot strikes out, so two outs.

    Lar June 27, 2008, 4:07 pm
  • Edwar not having that control today..

    Lar June 27, 2008, 4:10 pm
  • Finally gets out of the inning, but not before Giese/Edwar gives up 3 runs and the lead back to the Mets. 6-4 Mets.

    Lar June 27, 2008, 4:11 pm
  • I’d get angry at Erkel but ‘ve got to cut him some slack – after all, he’s only 13.

    Atheose June 27, 2008, 4:12 pm
  • who would have ever thought a mets lineup would have trot nixon, marlin anderson, and frenando tatis batting successively (not successfully)?

    sf rod June 27, 2008, 4:14 pm
  • Erkel gets out of it but the damage is done.
    Yanks have stranded 8 in 4. I am sick of the wet-noodle bats with RISP!!!!!!!!!!

    IronHorse (yf) June 27, 2008, 4:14 pm
  • Cano popping out on the first pitch is not what I would call good.
    Betemit reaches on an error though. So 1 out, 1 on. The Yanks can cut into the lead by scoring some runs now..

    Lar June 27, 2008, 4:15 pm
  • Another Met E. Cano on 1st, one out, Christian bunts a pop-out. Not the way to distinguish yourself Justin.

    IronHorse (yf) June 27, 2008, 4:15 pm
  • Sorry – betemit not cano on. Regardless, 2 freaking outs.

    IronHorse (yf) June 27, 2008, 4:16 pm
  • Ya, I don’t know what Christian is doing there. Either way, it’s Melky with two outs and full count.

    Lar June 27, 2008, 4:18 pm
  • And Melky walks. Jeter getting on would be nice.

    Lar June 27, 2008, 4:18 pm
  • Two runners on. Well, if we want to continue our impressive hard-to-achieve feat of stranding 2-per-inning, Jeter just needs to flake out here.

    IronHorse (yf) June 27, 2008, 4:19 pm
  • IH – indeed. The story of the day – good enough to get on, not good enough to score them. Grumble.

    Lar June 27, 2008, 4:21 pm
  • Grr, Jeter grounds out, even though he made Pelfrey work, at least. Pelf at 98 pitches. After 5, it’s still 6-4 Mets.

    Lar June 27, 2008, 4:24 pm
  • Could we stand 18 today? That would be neat. Anyone know what the record is for a 9-inning game?
    Back to the game: 1 out, man on 1st for the Mets.

    IronHorse (yf) June 27, 2008, 4:29 pm
  • That was supposed to be “strand 18″…

    IronHorse (yf) June 27, 2008, 4:30 pm
  • BB. Two on one out.
    If you add the Yanks’ stranded runners (10) and the walks they’ve given out (6), you get the number of runs it will take to win this game.

    IronHorse (yf) June 27, 2008, 4:32 pm
  • I don’t know if I can stand anymore of this game. Haha. I will passively comment.

    Lar June 27, 2008, 4:34 pm
  • 1st and 3rd, 2 outs as Castillo beas out the DP. David Wright up. Dangerously close to blowing this game open…

    IronHorse (yf) June 27, 2008, 4:34 pm
  • Anyone know what the record is for a 9-inning game?
    Whatever it is, I bet the Red Sox own it!

    Anonymous June 27, 2008, 4:36 pm
  • Wright singles, it’s now a 3 run game. I don’t know what’s worse, the lack of hitting, or the lack of pitching. Bah.

    Lar June 27, 2008, 4:38 pm
  • Single and RBI. 7-4 Mets.
    Well, if this game gets out of hand at least we can take solace in the fact that Sidney Ponson has got our backs in the nightcap.

    IronHorse (yf) June 27, 2008, 4:39 pm
  • 3-1 to Delgado…

    IronHorse (yf) June 27, 2008, 4:40 pm
  • Here’s a bit of relevant trivia:
    You can fit 45 Edwars in one Sidney.
    And Ohlendorf walks another…

    IronHorse (yf) June 27, 2008, 4:41 pm
  • 3-0. Bases loaded. The wheels have not competely come off, but they are teetering with rusted bolts…

    IronHorse (yf) June 27, 2008, 4:43 pm
  • Grand slam.

    IronHorse (yf) June 27, 2008, 4:43 pm
  • 11-4.
    Put in the dregs. Oh yeah, they’re already pitching.

    IronHorse (yf) June 27, 2008, 4:44 pm
  • 11-4 now? What a waste of a lunch break.

    attackgerbil June 27, 2008, 4:45 pm
  • This just in: MLB has reduced Coco Crisp’s suspension to five games from seven (which surprises me.)
    Crisp is starting tonight, and then the suspension is to be served beginning Saturday. So he’ll miss the entire TB series and then be eligible to return when the Sox land at the Stadium. (That should qualify this as Yankee thread relevant, although barely.)

    I'm Bill McNeal June 27, 2008, 4:45 pm
  • Well, now I’m outs. Haha. Though it would be sweet if the Yanks can come back a bit. I mean, they put enough men on base to do that..

    Lar June 27, 2008, 4:47 pm
  • Always nice to get back from a meeting and see the Yankees losing.
    Atheose – I’ll take A-Rod off your hands! Go see if there’s anybody you want on my team (Mike Lowell’s Goatee).

    Micah-SF June 27, 2008, 4:50 pm
  • Pelfrey is out, so if the Yanks can hit into the bullpen a bit, that would be good.

    Lar June 27, 2008, 4:52 pm
  • “That should qualify this as Yankee thread relevant, although barely”
    That would make it “threadbare”…ha ha…
    Interestingly, that word also describes: Edwar Ramirez’s physique, the Yankees’ starting pitching, and my hold on sanity right now as I listen to this f*%king game.

    IronHorse (yf) June 27, 2008, 4:52 pm
  • A-Rod hits a HR – large in distance, probably small in significance.

    IronHorse (yf) June 27, 2008, 4:53 pm
  • > You can fit 45 Edwars in one Sidney.
    That’s not fair. You overlook the fact that a Sidney pitch has a special break that deceives hitters because thought it reaches escape velocity, the ball is compelled by his personal gravity to curve back into orbit around his mass.

    attackgerbil June 27, 2008, 4:53 pm
  • Giambi reaches on Tatis’ error.

    IronHorse (yf) June 27, 2008, 4:54 pm
  • “…the ball is compelled by his personal gravity to curve back into orbit”
    LMAO AG.
    Unfortunately, by the time the Ponson pitch reaches the plate he has punched another island judge and is thrown in prison so he isn’t around to field his position.
    Posada Ks. Come on, get one more on so we can strand another 2!!!

    IronHorse (yf) June 27, 2008, 4:58 pm
  • Game 2 is supposed to start at 8pm. At this rate, they seriously won’t finish in the Stadium until 6:30pm at best.
    Ground out. Inning over. Only stranded one. D*%n – the streak is over.

    IronHorse (yf) June 27, 2008, 4:59 pm
  • Unfortunately, by the time the Ponson pitch reaches the plate he has punched another island judge and is thrown in prison so he isn’t around to field his position.
    What happens in Aruba stays in Aruba. At least he’s no Ugueth…

    SF June 27, 2008, 5:15 pm
  • The Mets keeps on tacking them on. They actually only have 2 more hits than the Yanks, with more errors and a couple of walks. So in theory this could’ve easily gone the other way.
    In theory.
    I do have Wright and Beltran in one of my leagues, so at least I’m getting some offense that I haven’t been all that often..

    Lar June 27, 2008, 5:26 pm
  • joran vandersloot disagrees.

    sf rod June 27, 2008, 5:27 pm
  • > Anyone know what the record is for a 9-inning game?
    Thanks to BR, it’s findable but requires a bit of clickety clicking; I’m still not sure if it’s the record for a nine-inning game but it is a brutal record if accurate: the White Sox stranded 19 team runners losing to the Blue Jays 9-5 April 7th 1977.
    The overall record is easy. On May 4th, 1973, Atlanta played at Veteran’s Stadium. Despite the Braves’ 91 plate appearances, 17 hits, 10 walks (4 intentional), 3 HBP and 3 reach on error, the Braves scored only four runs and stranded 27 team runners in 20 innings, losing by one run to the Phillies.

    attackgerbil June 27, 2008, 5:29 pm
  • Jeebus, another HR from Delgado. No one has him in that same league though.

    Lar June 27, 2008, 5:30 pm
  • Thanks ag. At least we can have still have goals…
    Mets tacking and tacking and tacking on. I’ve lost track of the score as I’m listening on radio and I frankly don’t even care anymore except in the watching-a-slasher-flick kind of way.

    IronHorse (yf) June 27, 2008, 5:31 pm
  • If the Yanks get swept today I will be very excited for Saturday’s episode of “Hankosity!™”.

    SF June 27, 2008, 5:32 pm
  • Seriously, why isn’t there a reality show starring Hank? There’s gold in them thar hills.

    SF June 27, 2008, 5:33 pm
  • The combined record for team LOB is 45 runners stranded when the Cards beat the Mets 4-3 September 11th 1974: seven hours four minutes, and 25 innings, with the Mets sending 103 players to the plate (the only time in ML history when a team has sent 100+ players to bat if I read it correctly); the Cards sent 99 batters to the plate.
    Okay, in this case, I would say baseball can get pretty boring.

    attackgerbil June 27, 2008, 5:39 pm
  • I know I tried to make this point in the original post and I know game one means nothing as for as the next three in this series, but we are in grave danger this weekend – for the first time really this season – of our starting pitching gaps being E…X…P…O…S…E…D and us emerging in a far deeper hole come Monday than that in which we started this morning.
    Let’s hope Sidney turns it around, Pettitte outduels Santana, and Rasner rediscovers his mojo. I’m out.

    IronHorse (yf) June 27, 2008, 5:39 pm
  • Ross Ohlendorf’s ERA got mugged today.

    SF June 27, 2008, 5:40 pm
  • Luis Castillo has scored FIVE runs, and is on base again. Wow.

    Paul SF June 27, 2008, 5:51 pm
  • > Let’s hope Sidney turns it around
    Wouldn’t that nudge Giambi off the bag?

    attackgerbil June 27, 2008, 5:51 pm
  • > Seriously, why isn’t there a reality show starring Hank?
    Should be. I can see him being at least as entertaining as Trump.

    attackgerbil June 27, 2008, 5:52 pm
  • “in grave danger this weekend – for the first time really this season – of our starting pitching gaps being E…X…P…O…S…E…D”
    To be honest, I’m very impressed the Yanks are where they are considering all of the injuries this year. Tell me, what team could have lost:
    3/5 of their starting rotation – each for two to four *months*
    A top 3 catcher for a month
    A perennial MVP for three weeks
    And still be in contention?
    If your answer is none, you would be correct.
    Even 2005 wasn’t this bad. 2006 they lost two starting OFs but the pitching was mostly healthy. And 2007 they lost some offense, but the pitching was mostly okay.
    And yet all those seasons they made the playoffs. Call me not worried. It’s not like any other team is running away with it, and when they did (2005) we still won the division.

    A YF June 27, 2008, 6:05 pm
  • Is there an official game time for the nightcap yet? Trying to gauge how much time I have to get home…

    FenSheaParkway June 27, 2008, 6:08 pm
  • I’m not worried, but I also don’t enjoy middling at .500 against teams we should beat up. The Mets for one.
    Ah well, I’m outs. Go Yanks!

    Lar June 27, 2008, 6:20 pm
  • hmmm…3/5ths the starting rotation? pretty sure 2/5ths of that rotation weren’t gonna stick anyway (joba was gonna be a starter at some point this year and rasner has provided more than PH and IPK had to that point). besides that, wang has really only missed one or two starts since going down on june 15th (maybe a little early to use that crutch).
    as for the “Tell me, what team could have lost:….” the easy answer is….the team with the highest payroll in baseball.
    i’m not harping, i just don’t want to hear sf’s using the “we lost papi, lowell, dice-k, and buchholz for significant amounts of time” if we slip into some poor play this season.

    sf rod June 27, 2008, 7:12 pm
  • “3/5ths the starting rotation?”
    When the season started, they were all three of the five. Coulda, shoulda, woulda. The Yanks were committed to sticking with youth. Joba would have replaced one or filled in for an injury. But by the time they all come back it will have been from two to four months for each and that’s if Wang makes it back. Hughes will probably miss three months.
    Besides, all that is neither here nor there. It’s a point of fact and yet this team is still in contention. As a fan, I’m satisfied.
    “the easy answer is….the team with the highest payroll in baseball.”
    Blah, blah, blah. If the Sox were out 3 of their five from opening day, for 2 to 4 months each, plus Manny AND Papi, for a month each, we’d never hear the end of it. A few short DL stints is nothing. The only comparable is Papi and he wasn’t that good before he went down. And the Sox spent th most in baseball history to win a ring. What’s the point?

    A YF June 27, 2008, 8:26 pm
  • > As a fan, I’m satisfied.
    I find that statement highly dubious.

    attackgerbil June 27, 2008, 8:55 pm
  • Just let it go, A YF. There is nothing to bait here about what sf rod said.

    attackgerbil June 27, 2008, 8:57 pm
  • So now, you’re going to read my mind, AG. I am satisfied. I’m satisfied with how this team has played given the injuries. I’m satisfied with the direction of the organization. I’m satisfied with Hank and Hal. I’m satisfied they started the year with Hughes and IPK in the rotation. I’m satisfied with the decision and timing to move Joba. I’m satisfied they relied on the organization with Matsui’s injury and will too with the bullpen (after Edwar, Ohlendorf, Giese, and Rasner).
    The only thing I’m not satisfied right about now is having to cheer, ever slightly, for Sidney Ponson. But even that is understandable given the injuries (including Horne).

    A YF June 27, 2008, 9:04 pm
  • Just in time to see bases loaded – again.

    IronHorse (yf) June 27, 2008, 9:22 pm
  • DP on a ball HARDR hit by Castro. Sidney is living a charmed life. Must be something about karma – if you do enough stupid crap off the field maybe everything will work on it.
    By the way AG, the Ponson brushing Giambi off the base if he “turns it around” killed me…

    IronHorse (yf) June 27, 2008, 9:24 pm
  • Top of the 4th. I think it is safe to say that the Yanks need to get on the freaking board before the little angel on Sidney’s shoulder decides it is time to get real and help someone who deserves it.

    IronHorse (yf) June 27, 2008, 9:27 pm
  • Abreu lead-off walk. A-Rod up. Good start here…

    IronHorse (yf) June 27, 2008, 9:28 pm
  • That’s one of the worst throws from a catcher to second on a SB attempt that I have ever seen. Not only did it hit Abreu, it just sort of floated out there and sideways.
    OK A-Rod, drive him in…

    IronHorse (yf) June 27, 2008, 9:29 pm
  • 3-0.

    IronHorse (yf) June 27, 2008, 9:29 pm
  • A-Rod battling on 3-2…

    IronHorse (yf) June 27, 2008, 9:31 pm
  • Walks him. Speed on the bages, no outs, and porn start up. The closer you look at Giambi’s stache the more awesome it becomes. It is really amazing. Magnum PI with a paunch (and thong – try not to picture).

    IronHorse (yf) June 27, 2008, 9:32 pm
  • Giambi punches it through the right side of the infield, but Abreu can’t get home. Bases loaded, Robbie at the plate. Come on kid.

    IronHorse (yf) June 27, 2008, 9:34 pm
  • Castro and Pedro wearing out the grass between the mound and the plate with their mini-conferences.

    IronHorse (yf) June 27, 2008, 9:35 pm
  • Cano grounds out but gets the RBI…
    Replay shows Pedro never touched the bag. Sucks.
    Melky getting the IBB and Molina coming up. He’s got to produce, or our hopes for the inning fall on Sidney’s bat.

    IronHorse (yf) June 27, 2008, 9:36 pm
  • Molina grounds to third and somehow some way Molina beats the throw to 1st to avoid the DP and score the RBI. I’m not joking – I think Molina runs slower than my grandmother.

    IronHorse (yf) June 27, 2008, 9:38 pm
  • Quick two outs here in teh bottom of the 4th. Let’s go Sid – make ita quick one and let’s get old man pedro back on the mound…and just like that, he gives up the single to “single is as good as a double” Reyes.

    IronHorse (yf) June 27, 2008, 9:45 pm
  • Moliona guns Reyes. Love it. Love it. Molina has been strong this year behind the plate.

    IronHorse (yf) June 27, 2008, 9:47 pm
  • That was supposed to be Molina…a Moilina is a backup catcher who snips your penis.

    IronHorse (yf) June 27, 2008, 9:48 pm
  • Damon bloops his way on – no outs. Run Johnny…

    IronHorse (yf) June 27, 2008, 9:51 pm
  • Talking to yourself on a Friday night is coooll….

    IronHorse (yf) June 27, 2008, 9:52 pm
  • Come join us in the Sox gamer. We have no lives and several of us are on there…

    rootbeerfloat June 27, 2008, 9:58 pm
  • Abreu knocks in Damon, Jeter moves to 3rd on the throw home. I thought it was risky to run Damon there with no outs and A-Rod and Giambi coming up, but that’s one of many reasons I am not the NYY 3rd base coach I guess.
    3-0 Yanks, no outs, two on, meat of the order, Pedro on the ropes (83 pitches with no outs in the 5th).

    IronHorse (yf) June 27, 2008, 9:59 pm
  • I’m satisfied that “Who’s your Daddy?” never gets old.

    A YF June 27, 2008, 10:15 pm
  • Hey A YF – I’ve been over on the Sox thread since no one was around here. I didn’t hear the Who’s Your Daddy chant…did it come up??
    And Cano knocks one out – 7-0 good guys.

    IronHorse (yf) June 27, 2008, 10:24 pm
  • The voices in my head…

    A YF June 27, 2008, 10:30 pm
  • Well there certainly were plenty of opportunities for the assembled YFs at Shea to launch into it. He got knocked around pretty good.

    IronHorse (yf) June 27, 2008, 10:35 pm
  • Sidney Ponson comes to the Yanks rescue.
    Sir Sidney, we salute thee!

    yf2k June 28, 2008, 2:34 am
  • Ugh.

    A YF June 28, 2008, 9:07 am
  • Hey everyone, I’m satisfied!
    I’m satisfied that our drafts since 2000 have produced exactly one ML calibre player!
    I’m satisfied after every callup fails! I’m satisfied after raping Scranton, and raping Trenton, we still have a few A-ball clubs left! I’m for calling up Gerritt Cole, today. That would satisfy me!
    I’m satisfied that every injury is met with an astounding drop in talent! I’m satisfied about if my Yanks had to square off in a 7 game series against an NL also-ran we might win!
    I’m satisfied that our GM had no contingency plans for a 40 man roster consisting of brittle has-beens and untested pitchers! who needs Santana or a bench, I’m satisfied!
    Who can’t get no? not me, I’m satisfied! Yet I would not be if Colon was blocking talented youth.
    What a douche

    Anonymous June 28, 2008, 10:18 am
  • Stop with the juvenile name-calling, anon, ok? Anonymous posting is against the rules (though I am pretty certain I know who posted this) and won’t be tolerated. If it was unintentionally anonymous then you should identify yourself. This is not acceptable at this site, so consider this a warning from the moderators.

    SF June 28, 2008, 10:39 am
  • Don’t blame it on me, SF. I log in and sometimes Typekey gets it right, sometimes it does not.
    Dirty Water

    Dirty Water June 28, 2008, 11:22 am
  • I understand the Typekey issue. Not a huge deal.
    Stop with the name-calling, though.

    SF June 28, 2008, 11:46 am
  • Oh, okay, I’m supposed to be very angry that the Yanks have made the playoffs 13 years running, with 4 world championships, and this year they’re pushing a youth movement. Still, they’re 5.5 back of the wild card (6 of the division) with 3/5 of their rotation out for two to four months. I’m sooooooooooooo angry though. Grrrrrrrrrrr.

    A YF June 28, 2008, 12:11 pm

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