In case everyone has forgotten (we know YF has), the defending World Champions are still the Boston Red Sox.
[EDIT: And we’re back in first]
Behold the Embittered Sox Fan, living in the past. How sad.
Nostalgia is a lot healthier than denial.
SF is right they are number one, at least until October 2.
I thought it was only bastard Yankee fans that ever resorted to “COUNT TEH RINGZ, BITCHES!!!11” tactics? Guess not.
When you got’em, flaunt’em, to quote Max Bialystock.
Repeat 20 more times, then give us a call….
I needed a good laugh. Where can I get a foam hand like that?
COUNT TEH RINGZ, BITCHES!!!
Hitler once had a solid rule of Germany.
The church used to think the world was flat, and crucifed people that thought otherwise,
Republicans used to be democrats.
We’ve got 26 rings, and you’ve got one (the obvious and all-too common uniformed Yankee fan).
Living in the past indeed. Sad indeed.
Okay. That’s it.
Brad, you have violated Godwin’s Law, and in so doing have officially lost this argument. The thread is now closed. Everybody move along.
You should have invoked Godwin’s Law back at the Max Bialystock reference.
unfortunately, see also quirk’s exception:
Intentional invocation of this so-called “Nazi Clause” is ineffectual.
I don’t think Brad or SF tried to intentionally invoke Godwin’s Law.
Theres no debate on this, folks. The Sox are the World Champs until another team takes it from them. Of course you want to be in first place, but how is being in first place on July 19th more valuable than being in first place on July 17th or 18th? Its not. October is when you want to be in first. The rest is nice, but ultimately useless. Just ask the Orioles.
And for the record, I predicted on this blog that the Sox would win three of four from the Yanks this past weekend. Ooops… this is a perfect example of why I don’t gamble.
Yeah, I read once about Goodwin, and just too bad I forgot about it ’till you brought it up.
Yep, my post again annonymous.
Alan Embree DFA’ed, and I don’t know how I feel about it yet. He has lost some bad games this year (three to be exact), and even worse one to the Yanks, so maybe it’s for the best for the Sox right now. Myers is more consistent, and is not so easy on righties.
Trying to have your cake and eat it too: Saying “we’re number 1,” and saying “don’t live in the past.”
The 2004 season is over. Go to RedSox.com, click on “Standings,” and you will see that the Yankees are in first today.
Finally, John and I agree on something, however with only .5 games separting the two, the point is useless as it could change day to day for the next month.
Separating the three
When you are still the reigning World Champs, reminding people that you are the champs is not “living in the past”.
Reminding people that you won 17 of them in the first half of last century is.
There’s the past, the present, and the future. The Yankees are better than the Red Sox in the past, the present, and the future.
Well, clearly thats not true. Maybe the Yankees are better in the past if you define the past as “between 1919 and 2003.” However, the Sox are the reigning World Champs, and as of now, you can check the standings and see who’s in first. Hint: its not the Yankees.
It’s going to be a dull month or so if we start woohooing at each other every night over who’s in first, or who’s better. If the Yanks want to be considered a better team, go win a series. There is no argument there. Stop getting beat around in the playoffs or the WS when you go, and then it’s a valid argument. But for now, the trophy is in Boston, and if you want it, you have to still be around at the end of the year to get it.
So let’s see, when the Sox win in the past, it counts. When the Yankees win 26 times, it doesn’t.
When the Yanks are in first, we should wait and see. When the Sox are in first, it is proof of the superiority of the Sox.
Maybe the Nation needs a few years of psychoanalysis.
Ok, you’re right john yf. I can’t argue with that type of hard-hitting logic-based analysis. The yankees are the best team now and forever.
In other news: what the heck are you talking about?
I agree totally with John on this one. I mean, being the current World Series Champion does not mean you have any sort of bragging room whatsoever. Really, shouldn’t we all be bragging about winning future championships here? I can’t wait until the future gets here to see who wins the world series! Every year the WS champ gets one year to flaunt the fact that they are such (one year, not ten, twenty, or fifty), and so do the fans of said team. Like I said, if the Yankee fans wanted to argue this point, then please show a current world championship. Both my house and car are newer than the last time the Yanks won, and quite frankly, after the last few showings in playoffs and championships, the Yanks have nothing to brag about, no matter what the ring count.
In other news : I don’t really agree with John.
Scoop on Tony Grafanino:
Lifetime utility infielder, with very minimal time in the outfield with Atlanta.
Has a lifetime BA of .263 (to date), but has never played a full season at one positon. He has bat over or at .300 four years, and is at that mark currently (.298). He has a career OBP of .335, but is at .377 this year through 59 games. Has absolutely no power, but has hussled out some doubles and triples.
At second base, where I assume he is going to play most of the time, his Fpct is .980, but again at 22G this year it’s .990. He’s having a decent year in the field and on the plate.
As it stands now, he’s the best option that we have for the spot without calling up someone from the minors. Anyhow, he’s much better than Bellhorn, so thank you Theo.
Also of nice consideration, with runners in scoring postion, which the ninth hitter almost always inherits on this team, he has a .521 OBP and .323BA this year , and with two outs a BA of .384.
This is a nice temporary fix for the Sox, and even better, he can play almost every positon with 1B being far and away his best (lifetime fpct of .995), but the sample size is pretty small.
Do I smell Millar and Olerud heading somewhere else? I know the Mets would love to have him back, and I would not mind getting Louper for almost nothing.
ahh the planets are aligned once again.
re: AL East standings as of today. alas i could be crying in my cheerios by morning…
I wouldn’t mind getting Clement for almost nothing. Do you think that will happen?
I wouldn’t mind getting Manny for almost nothing. (Oh, I forgot, the Sox offered him for nothing at all.)
Here’s the truth: after 92 games, the Sox are playing .548 ball, and the Yanks .543. Teams under .550 with talent like the Sox and the Yanks have not had good seasons.
The Yanks have been very inconsistent. When the pitching was hot, the bats were not, and vice versa. Now the offense is great, seesawing with the Sox for most runs in the major leagues, and the pitching is the worst it has been IN DECADES.
It’s an achievement that the Yanks have gone 11 and 4 in July with such terrible pitching. At the same time, the Sox have gone 6 and 10, so that’s encouraging for any team that wants to finish ahead of them. That’s why I say the Yanks are better in the present.
The Yankees shook up the roster and the offense benefited. MAYBE the same is true of the Sox. The offense is good, the defense okay, and I don’t think the problem is Bellhorn. Bring back Pedro and a healthy Schilling and Foulke and the Sox would be in pretty good shape.
“Both my house and car are newer than the last time the Yanks won, and quite frankly, after the last few showings in playoffs and championships, the Yanks have nothing to brag about, no matter what the ring count.”
Let me get this straight, the fact that the Yankees have won 26 championships means nothing. All that matters is the recent past. If something happened more than 1 year ago it is inconsequential. OK, that’s fine, after a new champ is crowned this year the Sox will go back to being nothing.
“OK, that’s fine, after a new champ is crowned this year the Sox will go back to being nothing.”
This is the logical conclusion to the comments from the Nation. When did this Steinbrenner mentality take over? Is this what it’s like on the SoSH? Red Sox fans loved the teams for 86 years before last year’s win.
The Yankees have the best record in sports. They lose a lot more than they win, just like the best hitter makes a lot more outs than hits.
Didn’t YF close this thread long ago?
Fact: The Sox are still world champs, and this matters – they will be the champions until someone else wins it. Sorry about that, Yankees fans, but it’s the truth.
Fact: The Yankees are NOT the current champs, wonderful history and all that. And it IS a wonderful history. We’re biased, but we’re not stupid.
Fact: The Red Sox are in first place, technically.
Fact: The Yankees are NOT in first place, technically.
Fact: By 11pm this post could be (half) moot.
Calm down, everyone.
i believe that was “calm down” not “act like an idiot.”
Well Red Sox – enjoy the glory as much as you can – it happens only once in 86 years . Go Yankees
Is that a real finger? Or a photoshop?
I had a great idea years ago to make and sell something like this. It would have been Yankee fingers since it would have made more sense then.
Has anyone really produced these? I think I want one.
Well Red Sox – enjoy the glory as much as you can – it happens only once in 86 years .
Actually, when the Sox get around to winning a title, they usually win them in bunches.
That’s 3 in 4 years and 4 in 7 years. Very similar to the recent Yankees run.
So watch out.
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