And the Winners Are …

Hanley Ramirez and Justin Verlander, rookies of the year.

I guess the Red Sox shouldn’t have traded for Josh Beckett, after all.

15 comments… add one
  • I can’t tell if that last sentence is sarcasm or not.
    Papelbon got the shaft. Not that Verlander is a bad choice–I just expected Pap to get more first place votes than he did.

    mouse November 13, 2006, 4:36 pm
  • Sarcasm, mouse. I wrote the long post about why Beckett has plenty of upside and atually had a very good season, remember? “Five Reasons To Stop Complaining About the Beckett Trade” or whatever I called it.
    I figure if Anibal Sanchez’s no-hitter can cause everyone to suddenly throw Beckett under the bus, surely Hanley’s award seals the deal. :-P

    Paul SF November 13, 2006, 4:46 pm
  • mouse, it was certainly much more of a landslide than I figured it would be. Papelbon and Liriano both ended up with more WS than Verlander, though nothing about Rookie of the Year neccessarily means “most valuable rookie of the year”. Congrats to Verlander, who looks to have an extremely bright future after some very likely growing pains next year with all the innings he pitched this year.

    Quo November 13, 2006, 4:50 pm
  • Papelbon and Liriano missing the ends of their respective seasons certainly hurt there chances.

    TJ November 13, 2006, 4:51 pm
  • One of the specificqualifications for ROY, iirc, is health. I think that explains the landslide nature, considering Papelbon and Liriano clearly had better seasons.

    Paul SF November 13, 2006, 4:52 pm
  • Ah, just checking, Paul. I figured it was given your previous posts on this subject, but sometimes it’s hard to tell. :)
    Quo, I have to agree on the “growing pains” for Verlander next year–I’m glad you brought that up. Leyland worked him really hard this year, plus the Tigers had almost a whole extra month to their season. Any bets on who will write the first “What is wrong with Justin Verlander?” article next year?

    mouse November 13, 2006, 5:00 pm
  • Dan Shanoff wrote:
    As for the AL, I’m all for Verlander; he was the only one of the Big Three to survive the season. But you gotta be smoking some serious New England hype crack to vote Papelbon over Liriano. If you factor out time lost to injuries, Liriano was the best pitcher in the AL. (And, seeing how he’s out for ’07 and who knows how much longer, the least they could do is give him the freaking runner-up spot.) Papelbon? Yeah, we’ll see how he measures up when he converts to a starter next season; I’ll bet his Red Sox Nation slurpers that his stats next season — full or injury-shortened — don’t come close to Liriano’s.

    TJ November 13, 2006, 6:07 pm
  • Paps wuz robbed.

    Hudson November 13, 2006, 6:27 pm
  • Since Liriano won’t be pitching next year, I find that really, really hard to believe.
    He’s out all year next year with a TJ operation – Does this guy write for a indi paper in the Bronx or something now?

    Brad November 13, 2006, 6:44 pm
  • He wrote the Daily Quickie column for ESPN.com for 3 years.
    As for out all year. Go to google and search Liriano under the news tab, the fact that LIriano will miss the entire 2007 season isnt some wild speculation by Shanoff.

    TJ November 13, 2006, 6:54 pm
  • Yeah, nevermind Shanoff. I thought he was saying, at first glance, that Liriano would be better than Papelbon next year. This, I found difficult to believe since I know Liriano won’t be pitching at all – much less at the level it will take to be better than Papelbon.

    Brad November 13, 2006, 6:58 pm
  • I think Brad was referring to the ambiguity of the last sentence. It COULD lead the reader to believe Liriano will be more valuable than Paplebon next year despite Liriano assured of pitching 0 innings.

    Quo November 13, 2006, 6:58 pm
  • wait…that is what he’s saying. Ok, I’ve had enough for the day. Time to go home. Hopefully tomorrow brings good, good news.

    Brad November 13, 2006, 6:59 pm
  • Wow. I’m sure Liriano will be better than Paplebon next year, even if he won’t be better then Pap-el-bon next year. Really should check my spelling errors before I click ‘post’.

    Quo November 13, 2006, 6:59 pm
  • Sorry my bad, i read your post real quick and thought you were saying you found it hard to believe he would be out all season. My appologies.
    I enjoy reading Shanoffs writing, however I feel hes way off course on this bit.
    In the end of the paragraph I think he was referring to Papelbon’s stats next season starting comparing to Liriano’s this season, though im not sure, I will ask him though.

    TJ November 13, 2006, 7:09 pm

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