Baltimore Or Less: O’s-Yanks Gamer X

In the nine games played against Baltimore this season, the New York Yankees have been more mediocre than less, having scored 45 runs and allowed 50 on their way to a 3-6 record, their worst against any divisional opponent.  The Bombers have taken one game in each of the three series played so far, though Orioles fans might clamor that they deserved the win from the game begun on June 28th when play resumed after a delay and then proceeded into a monsoon so torrential that Melvin Mora argued he could not even see the ball; the game was suspended after the Yankees took the lead, which they held when the game was concluded the following month.  In that game, Chien-Ming Wang gave up four runs in the seventh inning and ended up with a no-decision.  Wang defeated the Orioles on July 29th, allowing 3 runs on 9 hits in 6 innings.

Wang returns to the mound tonight to face the Orioles in the Bronx in game one of a three-game set.  His last start in Toronto was a horrific 2.2 inning, 8-run misadventure that New York ended up losing by a score of 15-4; Wang’s ERA rose by nearly a half-run.  Baltimore sends Jeremy Guthrie, who is coming off a short outing in Seattle where he took the loss when he gave up 6 runs, 5 earned in four innings.  Guthrie went 6.1 innings on June 26th, allowing two runs on seven hits, only one walk, and 6 Ks for a no-decision in a game eventually won 3-2 by Baltimore when Proctor walked in the winning run in the bottom of the ninth.  On July 27th, Guthrie out-dueled Andy Pettite to record the victory, giving up 6 hits and 2 runs with 2 walks and 4 Ks in 6 innings.

Jorge Posada returns to the lineup after dealing with neck soreness.  Johnny Damon will lead off and DH today; he’s 2-6 lifetime with 1 home run against the right-handed Guthrie.  Giambi has never faced him.  Wilson Betemit is minding first.

Miguel Tejada is dealing with rumors that the White Sox claimed him on waivers, but the Orioles pulled him back.  Outfielder Jay Gibbons went on the DL today due to a right labrum tear that will require surgery and is done for the season.  Closer Chris Ray is still on the 15 day DL.


B. Roberts 2b .316
C. Patterson cf .269
N. Markakis rf .296
M. Tejada ss .300
K. Millar 1b .268
A. Huff dh .260
M. Mora 3b .267
R. Hernandez c .264
T. Redman lf .400
SP: J. Guthrie 3.22
NY Yankees
J. Damon dh .258
D. Jeter ss .331
B. Abreu rf .282
A. Rodriguez 3b .300
H. Matsui lf .296
J. Posada c .338
R. Cano 2b .315
W. Betemit 1b .312
M. Cabrera cf .302
SP: C. Wang 3.94
137 comments… add one
  • Can’t complain about that lineup.

    SF August 13, 2007, 6:03 pm
  • Nope.
    Why do newspapers make a mess of the waiver thing every year? Doesn’t every team basically put every player (or nearly so) on the waiver just in case they got through?

    Lar August 13, 2007, 6:07 pm
  • Um, I don’t consider this a violation of my self-imposed vacation from the site, but apparently someone is posting as me praising the Yankee lineup. Please note that I did not do that, and an imposter is at hand.

    SF August 13, 2007, 6:15 pm
  • I did that by accident. It was me. Apologies.

    YF August 13, 2007, 6:49 pm
  • Wang continues his early inning struggles by giving up a leadoff double by Roberts, a single by Patterson, and then hit Markakis to load the bases.
    Wild pitch scores Roberts as everyone moves up, and Tejada singles to continue the slaughter. Still no one out.

    Lar August 13, 2007, 7:26 pm
  • Quite the Wang nightmare right now

    walein August 13, 2007, 7:28 pm
  • Wang finally gets a double play but the third run scores. Maybe he can settle down and turn this awful first inning into a quality start.

    walein August 13, 2007, 7:29 pm
  • Millar doesn’t get an RBI, but a run does come in as he grounds into a double play.
    Huff grounds out to end the inning.
    The O’s are up 3-0. Let’s go Yanks!

    Lar August 13, 2007, 7:30 pm
  • Damon doubles, so now the Captain can cut into the lead a little bit.

    Lar August 13, 2007, 7:33 pm
  • walein – this seems to be a trend – his first inning (or two)’s ERA was significantly higher than the rest, and I remember that was before the implosion the other day.
    Maybe there’s an easy way to look up inning by inning ERA..

    Lar August 13, 2007, 7:34 pm
  • Wang with 19 pitches after 1, FYI.

    Lar August 13, 2007, 7:35 pm
  • Jeter flies out to right field, just enough for the aggressive Damon to go to third. It’s definitely still early in the game.

    Lar August 13, 2007, 7:35 pm
  • Well, a wild pitch by Guthrie evens the “runs on wild pitch” category. 3-1, Abreu up with no one on, one out.

    Lar August 13, 2007, 7:36 pm
  • Bobby Abreu hits a HR on the 7th pitch, fouling off two straight, after starting the count 3-0.
    3-2 O’s.

    Lar August 13, 2007, 7:38 pm
  • Bobby! 2 run homerun.

    walein August 13, 2007, 7:38 pm
  • Well well well. Seems as though the Yankee offense isn’t a pretender after all.

    AndrewYF August 13, 2007, 7:39 pm
  • sorry…solo shot.

    walein August 13, 2007, 7:39 pm
  • Hmm. Gonna be one of *those* games, huh.

    Anonymous August 13, 2007, 7:40 pm
  • ARod grounds out to Tejada, and Matsui flies out to CF.
    End of 1, it’s 3-2 O’s. Guthrie also at 19 pitches.

    Lar August 13, 2007, 7:41 pm
  • ^me

    yankeemonkey August 13, 2007, 7:41 pm
  • Mora leads off with a single.
    Off to the gym I go. Hopefully the Yanks will be dominating by the time I get back.

    Lar August 13, 2007, 7:44 pm
  • That was a nice play on Alex from Tejada.
    Looks like we’ve got a scorefest here.
    Note that my parents are at the game tonite. They’ve been a jinx all year!

    YF August 13, 2007, 7:44 pm
  • ^me

    yankeemonkey August 13, 2007, 7:45 pm
  • YF, next time hide the car keys/metrocard/whatever!

    yankeemonkey August 13, 2007, 7:45 pm
  • Baltimore Orioles: more annoying than Los Angeles Angels of Orange County, United States? Discuss.

    yankeemonkey August 13, 2007, 7:48 pm
  • After a leadoff single by Mora, a soft grounder to Derek advances the runner. Melky then makes a great grab on a line drive that had RBI single written all over it.

    yankeemonkey August 13, 2007, 7:50 pm
  • Roberts grounds out to Betemit to end the threat.

    yankeemonkey August 13, 2007, 7:51 pm
  • Is Wang just leaving the ball up in the zone YM? I can only track the game online.

    walein August 13, 2007, 7:57 pm
  • You Beta, You Beta, You Beta-mit!

    YF August 13, 2007, 7:57 pm
  • Whoa!! BETEMIT! 2-run HR

    Anonymous August 13, 2007, 7:58 pm
  • That right there is why Betemit is better than Cairo. Hats off, Cashman. You da man.

    AndrewYF August 13, 2007, 7:58 pm
  • Turned on the game just in time to see that. Nice jack wilson!

    attackgerbil August 13, 2007, 7:59 pm
  • Not to be confused with Wilson, Jack.

    attackgerbil August 13, 2007, 8:01 pm
  • Do you think Shelley Duncan is annoying the veterans with his insistence on performing forearm shivers? Acting like the 10 year old from the neighborhood always trying to hang out with the older kids.
    Its all fun n games until a bone snaps…

    dknyc August 13, 2007, 8:03 pm
  • Walein, it looks like some of CMW’s pitches are missing spots, for sure. And he retires Patterson on a soft liner as I type this. Perhaps he’ll settle down.

    yankeemonkey August 13, 2007, 8:05 pm
  • So why was Cashman all hot for Betemit these last 2 years? His stats are decent.

    Anonymous August 13, 2007, 8:06 pm
  • Jeter leads off the bottom of three with a single to right.

    attackgerbil August 13, 2007, 8:11 pm
  • So I’m assuming Mo is unavailable tonight. Who’s the closer should they need one? Would be cool if it were Joba. Then again, I’d rather they save Joba till tomorrow night, I’ve got tix to the game and I want to see him pitch…
    It’s about time they beat the brains out of the O’s, though. This team is irritating.

    yankeemonkey August 13, 2007, 8:16 pm
  • Lead off single by Jeter is wasted as ARod hits into a 6-4-3 DP. On to the 4th.

    yankeemonkey August 13, 2007, 8:19 pm
  • Can’t stick around for the gamer, but wanted to check in quickly. I didn’t want to be called a fairweather fan, LOL. Beautiful night here in NJ, going for a walk with the Family. Go Yankees!!!

    John - YF (Trisk) August 13, 2007, 8:21 pm
  • Millah with a lead off single for the O’s. Huff grounds into an FC to Wang, Millah to 2nd. Wang should’ve gotten the lead runner, he had plenty of time…

    yankeemonkey August 13, 2007, 8:22 pm
  • Enjoy your walk, Trisk. It is a beautiful night indeed.

    yankeemonkey August 13, 2007, 8:23 pm
  • A couple more grounders squelch the O’s. Wang is certainly killing the worms tonight.

    yankeemonkey August 13, 2007, 8:26 pm
  • Leche! Another run. Hit streak to 18.

    YF August 13, 2007, 8:38 pm
  • Melk!!!!
    A 2-out double to drive in Matsui and an 18 game hit streak! 5-3 good guys.

    yankeemonkey August 13, 2007, 8:38 pm
  • Woohoo! Melky Cabrera continues to flash his borderline 4th-outfielder skills by hitting a double to right!

    AndrewYF August 13, 2007, 8:39 pm
  • That Melky, he sucks.
    Stoopid Damon strands 2 men…

    yankeemonkey August 13, 2007, 8:42 pm
  • Boo. Wang gives up a solo dinger to Patterson.

    yankeemonkey August 13, 2007, 8:45 pm
  • Corey frickin’ Patterson! GAH

    attackgerbil August 13, 2007, 8:47 pm
  • Now a 4-pitch BB to Markakis. C’mon Wangster.

    yankeemonkey August 13, 2007, 8:47 pm
  • But he gets Tejada on a forceout. Halfway through, this game is like pulling teeth.

    yankeemonkey August 13, 2007, 8:50 pm
  • Meanwhile in Boston, Crawford breaks up Wake’s no-hitter.

    yankeemonkey August 13, 2007, 8:51 pm
  • ARod swipes second with 2 outs…Let’s go Godzilla, get him in!

    yankeemonkey August 13, 2007, 8:59 pm
  • Woot! A walk to Matsui, followed by a clutch ribbie single from Jorge. And that’ll do it for Mr. Guthrie.

    yankeemonkey August 13, 2007, 9:03 pm
  • Aww. Robi grounds out to strand 2 again.

    yankeemonkey August 13, 2007, 9:09 pm
  • How about Torre PHing Duncan for Damon? Too bad it’s for naught as he grounds out.

    yankeemonkey August 13, 2007, 9:26 pm
  • Pfft. How do you give up a hit to a guy named Tike?! Seriously. Wang out, Villone in. Commence antacid intake…

    yankeemonkey August 13, 2007, 9:28 pm
  • Do we have to give up a crucial run like this? Bah, as Redman scores on the wild pitch. 6-5 Yanks, end of 6 and a half.

    Lar August 13, 2007, 9:44 pm
  • Villone tries his best to blow the lead…2 wild pitches, the second of which could’ve taken out someone in the front row and allows an inherited runner to score. Yanks still lead, 6-5 after 6.5.
    In the words of guys over at RLYW, you know what would be nice here? Lots o’ runs.

    yankeemonkey August 13, 2007, 9:45 pm
  • Jeter and Abreu with quick outs. Let’s go ARod, I promise if you hit a HR, I won’t call it meaningless!

    Lar August 13, 2007, 9:49 pm
  • Froeming rings up Alex. That looked outside a smidge.

    YF August 13, 2007, 9:50 pm
  • And he strikes out. Let’s go Yanks pen!

    Lar August 13, 2007, 9:51 pm
  • Screw you, Bruce Froeming. That “strike” to Abreu almost bounced.

    yankeemonkey August 13, 2007, 9:52 pm
  • Joba time!

    YF August 13, 2007, 9:52 pm
  • Joba shakes off Jorge twice to go with a 3-2 slider! K for Tejada! Vicious.

    YF August 13, 2007, 9:56 pm
  • Millar an easy 0-2 grounder to Alex, 5-3.

    YF August 13, 2007, 9:57 pm
  • Ks Huff on the slider!!!!!

    YF August 13, 2007, 9:59 pm
  • John Sterling: “What a Job-a…by Joba!”

    Anonymous August 13, 2007, 10:01 pm
  • Holy mother of god. That kid is absolutely filthy.

    yankeemonkey August 13, 2007, 10:03 pm
  • Wow, that slider really is unfair. Absolutely unhittable.
    I cannot wait for next year when he brings it for 6 or 7 innings a start. Just nasty.

    AndrewYF August 13, 2007, 10:03 pm
  • Amazing that all the ks are on the slider.

    YF August 13, 2007, 10:03 pm
  • Hmm. I would let Joba go back out for the 9th…especially considering how hard Mo had to work yesterday.

    yankeemonkey August 13, 2007, 10:04 pm
  • Joba and The Franchise hanging on the bench. Makes the heart sing.

    YF August 13, 2007, 10:05 pm
  • More Joba PLEASE!

    YF August 13, 2007, 10:06 pm
  • Since Joba only worked one inning, this means he can pitch in relief of Hughes (Wednesday start) again! What joy!

    AndrewYF August 13, 2007, 10:08 pm
  • Mo.

    YF August 13, 2007, 10:09 pm
  • Mora single. Uh-oh.

    YF August 13, 2007, 10:11 pm
  • Hernandez out 2-3 with Mora moving. 1 down, man on 2nd.

    YF August 13, 2007, 10:13 pm
  • Who is “The Franchise”?

    Anna Maria Horseford August 13, 2007, 10:14 pm
  • Ramon groudns out.. but Mora makes it to second.
    I dont have much hope.. but .. who knows

    Dionysus August 13, 2007, 10:14 pm
  • LECHE!!!! Melky guns down Mora at the plate on the single to center by Redmond.
    Dead to rights.
    Redmond makes it to 2nd.

    YF August 13, 2007, 10:15 pm
  • “The Franchise” is Phil Hughes the really talent young pitcher for the Yanks and my newest nemisis

    Dionysus August 13, 2007, 10:15 pm
  • DAMMIT MORA! I’m gonan crush your family.

    Dionysus August 13, 2007, 10:16 pm

    Dionysus August 13, 2007, 10:16 pm
  • Crap. Abreu can’t do the same. Roberts, Yankee killer, gets 1 to right.
    Shoulda left in Joba.
    There goes Wang’s W.

    YF August 13, 2007, 10:17 pm
  • Saddly, I still think the Yanks will win. The Orioles bullpne sucks too bad and they don’t have the CUrse of Gagne hanging over them

    Dionysus August 13, 2007, 10:18 pm
  • Jesus, Matsui. Don’t scare me like that.
    I say Melvin Mora cost the Orioles the game.

    AndrewYF August 13, 2007, 10:21 pm
  • Alright. Let’s end this here in the 9th.
    Why can’t we seem to beat the O’s this year? Feh.

    YF August 13, 2007, 10:21 pm
  • Damnit. I knew they should’ve stayed with Joba for the 9th. Mo just looks…tired. Grrr.
    Well, if this is the gutsy gritty team we’ve been led to believe we have, this shouldn’t faze them too much. Plus the very idea that Farnsy might have to come in in extras should give them enough impetus to win here.

    yankeemonkey August 13, 2007, 10:21 pm
  • We got Giambi on the bench, presumably he’ll come in. We have a nice bench, though obviously, I would’ve rather take the win right there..

    Lar August 13, 2007, 10:22 pm
  • All those runners left on 2nd and 3rd come back to bite, as usual. If only that throw from Bobby was a little lower…..
    ARRRRGH. A Farnsworth sighting. Boys, get to it.

    yankeemonkey August 13, 2007, 10:23 pm
  • Look who! Chad Bradford. He’s been around. Giambi should hit 3rd against the righty, for Duncan.
    Farns warming for the Yanks, heavens forfend.

    YF August 13, 2007, 10:23 pm
  • Chad Bradford has scary eyes in his GameDay picture… but the mustache is just funny.

    Dionysus August 13, 2007, 10:23 pm
  • AP grounds 6-3.

    YF August 13, 2007, 10:24 pm
  • Come on Leche!

    YF August 13, 2007, 10:25 pm
  • I can’t resist posting a comment I’ve made in Sox threads before… Chad Bradford’s GameDay picture looks EXACTLY like that doofus guy from Reno 911.

    Hudson August 13, 2007, 10:25 pm
  • HBP! Booooo.
    Walk off Jason to the plate….

    YF August 13, 2007, 10:25 pm
  • Did I mention how much I hate the Orioles? I hate them with the heat of a thousand suns. Melky takes one for the team to put the winning run on base. Almost got nailed in the head there, whew.

    yankeemonkey August 13, 2007, 10:25 pm
  • Giambi rots on the bench while Andy Phillips, the magic all but gone, grounds out softly.
    I guess he’ll hit for Duncan, but he would have been better served hitting for Andy Phillips.
    Melky hit by a pitch, so Giambi needs a double to win it. He can do it.

    AndrewYF August 13, 2007, 10:26 pm
  • Hanging Chad vs Giambi? I feel ill.
    Keep the ball low. Looooow.

    Dionysus August 13, 2007, 10:26 pm
  • Holy crap. Redmond is playing in Katonah! Kids on the warning track!

    YF August 13, 2007, 10:26 pm
  • Go away, Sox trolls >;-)

    yankeemonkey August 13, 2007, 10:27 pm
  • single to right for jason!!!!!! leche to 3rd!!!!
    In at the corners, double play depth for Jeter…..END IT DEREK!!!!

    YF August 13, 2007, 10:27 pm
  • Alright! Man, I didn’t miss Giambi, but it sure is nice to have him back.

    AndrewYF August 13, 2007, 10:27 pm
  • I actuall liek the Orioles. There fans are alright and Camden is GORGEOUS. They are just run but a bunch of peopel who cant tell a baseball from a golf ball.

    Dionysus August 13, 2007, 10:28 pm
  • YESSSSSSSSS!!!! Captain Clutch wins it!!!!!

    yankeemonkey August 13, 2007, 10:28 pm
  • JETER WINS IT ON THE NUBBER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Leche scores as the ball slips off Bradford’s glove.
    7-6 YANKS!!!!!!

    YF August 13, 2007, 10:29 pm
  • He does it! I love everyone on the team!

    AndrewYF August 13, 2007, 10:29 pm
  • Nice. Yanks win, the Yanks win!
    Philips grounds out to lead off the inning.
    Melky gets hit.
    Giambi singles, Melky went to third against a deep outfield.
    Jeter with a little roller to the right side of the pitcher just enough for Melky to score. End of game.

    Lar August 13, 2007, 10:29 pm
  • Well.. the winning run gets to third. Anythign short of a DP wins the game for the Yanks. Ugh.
    Why cant you have a better bullpen, Os?

    Dionysus August 13, 2007, 10:30 pm
  • Wow… my agmeday musta lagged up. wierd

    Dionysus August 13, 2007, 10:30 pm
  • Derek: “Mo’s picked us up enough times. We can pick him up.”

    YF August 13, 2007, 10:30 pm
  • Did they pinch run for Giambi? I guess that runner doesn’t matter unless Melky gets thrown out at home, but just curious.

    Lar August 13, 2007, 10:30 pm
  • Nope, no pinch-running for Giambi. One, that run doesn’t matter. Two, if the game goes into extras you might need his bat later on. Thankfully Jeter makes it a moot point.

    yankeemonkey August 13, 2007, 10:32 pm
  • Ya, but if Melky gets thrown out at home, with Giambi on second and 2 outs, you would assume you pinch run to make sure he’ll score on a single..
    Go Yanks! =)

    Lar August 13, 2007, 10:33 pm
  • No, I don’t think there was anyone left on the bench at that point.
    Honestly, it still wouldn’t make sense. A doubleplay ball would be a doubleplay against anyone else the Yankees would have to pinch run. Then you’ve removed Giambi’s bat from a tied game.
    But a clutch soft groundball from Jeter wins the game! Jeter has been on the sidelines for a while, seemed an age since Captain Clutch really came through.

    AndrewYF August 13, 2007, 10:33 pm
  • So, let’s recap Joe’s brilliant managing maneuver: he burns out both Joba AND Mo and now neither is available for tomorrow. Awesome.

    yankeemonkey August 13, 2007, 10:34 pm
  • Oh, Molina was on the bench. But, I’d bet even Giambi was faster than a Molina brother.

    AndrewYF August 13, 2007, 10:34 pm
  • Yankeemonkey – was that a joke?

    AndrewYF August 13, 2007, 10:35 pm
  • A Molina vs. Giambi foot race! That’s something I’d pay to watch.

    yankeemonkey August 13, 2007, 10:35 pm
  • No, not entirely. Joba could’ve gone out for the 9th inning and Mariano shouldn’t have pitched tonight considering how tough it was for him last night.

    yankeemonkey August 13, 2007, 10:37 pm
  • Giambi would win. I’d like to see Posada vs. any of the Molinas. Or just all of the Molinas together. I’m pretty sure Bengie would be at the back of the pack. I know I’d beat all of them.

    AndrewYF August 13, 2007, 10:37 pm
  • LOL, Joba is Player of the Game. This kid seriously kicks all kinds of ass…
    Meanwhile in Seattle, M’s hang a 2-spot on Santana and the Twins. Boo.

    yankeemonkey August 13, 2007, 10:39 pm
  • monkey – but then Joba wouldn’t be available for two days. Plus, you can’t place that much pressure on the kid. With a one-run lead, you gotta go to Mo. Mo is obviously unavailable tomorrow, but now both Mo and Jo (ha) (HA) are available on the potentially low-scoring Bedard/Hughes game.
    MoJo. AWESOME.

    AndrewYF August 13, 2007, 10:39 pm
  • AndrewYF, I’d be curious to hear your perspective on the decision to use Mo and Joba. I thought Joe going to Mo tonight was a bad idea because he worked a bit more than usual last night. You sound like you disagree with that opinion. Can you elaborate a bit so I can understand the counter argument?

    DW-sf August 13, 2007, 10:40 pm
  • Yah, good point Andrew. I guess I just like to watch Joba pitch. Also: MoJo. Most excellent!

    yankeemonkey August 13, 2007, 10:40 pm
  • Hah. This from the RLYW comments section:
    “It all makes sense now. Torre found the best use of all for Farnsy. Get him warming up in a tie game in the ninth to put the fear of GOD into the offense.”
    So very, very true.

    yankeemonkey August 13, 2007, 10:48 pm
  • DW –
    Mo worked pretty hard last night, but it was after a day of rest. Rivera is a big boy.
    Also, think of it this way. It’s not fair to ask Joba, in his third major league game, to close out a very important win (since all of them are important at this point) for the Yankees. If you do that, and he blows it, then you possibly lose the game and you risk his mental state and/or health. Go with Mo, and if he blows it, then you possibly lose the game but nothing else. Also, no matter how good Chamberlain throws, there’s a better chance Mo closes out the game than Joba. Now, you don’t have those two for tomorrow, but you have Vizcaino if need be, which you probably won’t, because it’s Daniel Cabrera vs. Jeff Karstens. Now you have Mo and Jo available for Wednesday’s game, as opposed to only having Mo available for the game that will probably be a low-scoring one.
    It all makes sense in my head.

    AndrewYF August 13, 2007, 10:49 pm
  • I see. My thinking is that Viz could’ve done tonight (assuming the exact same outcome) and Mo would’ve been available for tomorrow. I mean, let’s face it: Karstens v. Cabrera?! It could be a freakin’ pitchers duel or it could be a 4-hour, high scoring, bullpen collapsing extravaganza (cf. ChiSox v. Yankees). I guess the question I have more centers around the concern with “overusing” Mo. Many of us (SFs and YFs alike) speak ill of Joe for “abusing” his favorites. Tonight looks like “abuse” to me.

    DW-sf August 13, 2007, 11:01 pm
  • You would go for Vizcaino over Rivera in the ninth inning?
    You win the games in front of you. Torre, I give him credit, always knows this regarding Rivera.
    Use Vizcaino, the Orioles blow him out, and Torre rightfully gets hammered for not using his closer in the most important inning of the game.
    No, you use Rivera, because the win is there. No guarantee you’ll have a close lead to protect tomorrow. It’s not very likely either, as it looks like it’s going to be a high-scoring game, and those are a lot less likely to be close than a low-scoring one.

    AndrewYF August 13, 2007, 11:08 pm
  • As they say, it’s awfully hard to argue with victories. Off the cuff, I would say I would rather have Viz available tomorrow for longer work if Karstens is touched early; he and Brower might well have to pull an overtime shift.
    Watched most of the game but couldn’t comment because of daddy duty. Joba has 5 scoreless innings with 8 ks, and I’m sure am glad that we have that #4/5 outfielder roaming CF for us, Mr. Steve.

    attackgerbil August 13, 2007, 11:16 pm
  • But my thinking is that Mo just pitched 2 1/3rd innings for me in two days (plus Friday’s load). He may be available on Wednesday but…will he be effective Wednesday? Go with Viz tonight because the team will (probably) mash against Cabrera tomorrow (giving Mo and the “favored” relievers the night off) and, then, Mo has 2 days rest for Wednesday which may actually be a close game. Part of this calculation is also informed by the thought that Yankees hitters can hit Orioles relievers 19 times out of 20. :-)
    Let’s telescope the scenario into tomorrow: the game is close (for some strange reason both pitchers throw well) but the Yankees have to pull Karstens after 6. Who do you go with? Villone looked dreadful tonight. Farnsworth is [fill in your favorite expletive]. Myers and Proctor are gone. By using Mo tonight are you conceding tomorrow’s game if it is close since there is nearly no one Joe trusts who is available?

    DW-sf August 13, 2007, 11:27 pm
  • I should flesh the whole thought out in order for it to be coherent. They won tonight by using guys they can’t use tomorrow. Was there a better way to work the bullpen so that, if things are sticky tomorrow, they have at least one arm Joe trusts available? Was it short-sighted to go for the throat tonight knowing that the ‘pen would be significantly depleted tomorrow? [If the O’s win tomorrow then Wednesday’s rubber match is still make-or-break.]

    DW-sf August 13, 2007, 11:32 pm
  • By the way, I just saw the 500 ceremony on – it’s kind of funny but thought it was nice. We’ll see if he comes back next year!

    Lar August 13, 2007, 11:49 pm
  • I agree with everything Torre did. Unlike Francona this past week, Torre used his best guys in the most important spots, and didn’t worry about what’s going to happen tomorrow. Win the game at hand, and let tomorrow work itself out when it gets here. Torre can be blamed for a lot of stuff, but worrying about tomorrow’s game definitely isn’t one of them. He manages to win every night, and if guys can’t step up when it matters tomorrow, then it’s on them, not him.
    Francona could take a lesson or two sometimes. Leaving Papelbon in the bullpen for two terrible losses to the god-forsaken Orioles is worthy of a punch to the nose. Torre did not make that mistake. Good for him on knowing how to win today.

    Brad August 13, 2007, 11:53 pm
  • From NYT:
    The Orioles came into the game with a 16-12 record since the All-Star Game, second only to the Yankees in the American League. Two of those victories were comebacks against the Boston Red Sox last weekend.

    That’s kind of interesting how while Yanks are hot as hell, they are about the only one at the time..

    Lar August 14, 2007, 12:04 am
  • And for the Yanks to reach 95 wins (a reasonable wild card total, I’m guessing), they only have to go 28-16. Okay, it’s still .636 ball, but not unreasonable.

    Lar August 14, 2007, 12:06 am

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