Barry, Barry Expensive

Barry Zito can now spend his off-time catching the surf at Mavericks, eating claypot chicken at the Slanted Door, and listening to beat poetry at City Lights.  Just like last year.  The Giants nab the over-rated lefty for massive bucks.  Somewhere Omar Minaya just punched a telephone.

The real Scott Boras is back.

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  • “Gammons reports that Zito picked the Giants over the Rangers, Mets, Yankees and Mariners. In additon, sources told Gammons that the Yankees never made a formal offer.”
    That’s a dumb line from the writer of the story. If the Yankees didn’t make an offer, how could they have been turned down? It’s conceivable Zito told the Yankees he had no interest in them, which is just not the same as picking someone over the Yankees.
    (sorry, I am in nitpicky linguist mode – but these are the kinds of tossed-off lines from which urban legends start – watch it become accepted fact amongst Sox fans that Zito “told the Yankees to take their money and shove it!”, or something like that)

    SF December 28, 2006, 12:50 pm
  • wow. this is crazy.

    m.g. yanks fan December 28, 2006, 1:10 pm
  • Hopefully this ups the stakes for Arizona or the Padres to trade for Randy. Good news for Yankees fans.

    Andrew December 28, 2006, 1:20 pm
  • Andrew, good point. This would seem to put pressure on the D-Backs.

    Nick-YF December 28, 2006, 1:24 pm
  • Very good news for YFs everywhere. On the heels of some very unsettling news re: drug samples this hopefully will steer the conversation in another direction.

    nate December 28, 2006, 1:24 pm
  • Uh, I think this was about the money. It reminds me of when ARod signed with the Rangers, going to a weaker team because their offer blew everybody else away. But being in the same clubhouse as Barry Bonds? Yuuuk!
    Guess Texas got their answer, before the weekend. Hey Mr. Hicks, he’s not coming down to the land of sweltering climate for your 80 mil. offer.
    Meanwhile, the Mets are fast running out of options for their ancient and crippled rotation. This, I like.

    Whatever December 28, 2006, 2:07 pm
  • Or, it puts pressure on the Yankees not to move RJ, without the Zito option available at all. We know what happened last year with the Sox trading Arroyo, assuming the depth in their rotation was more than sufficient. Not sure who this helps, though I do think it leans Yanks — it can be spun either way in negotiations.

    SF December 28, 2006, 2:14 pm
  • SF, but either way it’s spun (at least according to what you just said) it would give the Yanks more leverage. If there is less of an incentive to trade RJ then AZ will have to sweeten the deal if they really want him.

    Nick-YF December 28, 2006, 2:19 pm
  • Leverage? Talk to the Hendricks Bros.

    YF December 28, 2006, 2:27 pm
  • Not sure I get you, Nick. The Yankees having less incentive to trade him is simply that. If there isn’t a good substitute (trade Johnson for prospects, trade those prospects+ for Willis?) for Johnson then the Yankees have to think twice about entertaining any offers. At some point, they can’t trade him “just because”. He threw 200 innings last year. That’s not impossible to replace, but also not a simple thing. And they have to be convinced that his backup plan will be reasonably durable.

    SF December 28, 2006, 2:41 pm
  • I get it, Nick, rather. I simply think at some point that Yankees will realize that their incentive to trade Johnson is diminished without sufficient replacement value, and real replacement value, i.e. another pitcher who can contribute innings in 2007.

    SF December 28, 2006, 2:50 pm
  • Is this Mike Hampton Part II?
    Zito’s a good pitcher and all, but that is an insane contract for someone who is, essentially, a soft-tossing lefty with control issues. I can’t get my head around it.
    Brian Sabean must be some kind of genius, all right (not).

    mouse - SF December 28, 2006, 2:55 pm
  • The Yankees trading Johnson never hinged on the Yankees ability to get Zito. You don’t trade a pitcher and just assume you’ll sign a free agent. That’s doubly stupid.
    No, the Yankees have just as much reason to trade Johnson post-Zito signing than they did before. They were really never planning on acquiring Zito anyway (they never even made a formal offer, so that tells you something about their plans), so there is no change of incentive for the Yankees plans to trade Randy. Again, it’s a win for the Yanks in the sense that it increases the incentive for Arizona or San Diego to do something to ‘keep up’ with the Giants who have just been vastly improved.

    Andrew December 28, 2006, 4:45 pm
  • I am just relieved that the Yankees are not talking part in the massive market realignment that seems to be taking place right now. This is insanity and they are still paying the price for being involved the last time around in 2000-2002.

    MitchYF December 28, 2006, 6:58 pm
  • If the Yankees can get anything close to the 2005 Randy Johnson, then why would they bother trading him? He’s on a one year deal, which is ideal for a player of his age and health. Why, if the Yankees thought RJ was going to be a quite useful player, would they consider moving him, unless they think that Hughes is ready, that Clemens is a lock for May/June, or they know he’s just not coming back as much of anything. The Yankees aren’t in a great position here, no matter who the buyers may be. They need quality innings. If RJ is hurt, then he’s not valuable, to the Yankees or to trade partners. If he’s healthy, he’s valuable to trade partners, but also much more valuable to the Yankees than a low-cost first baseman.

    SF December 28, 2006, 7:02 pm
  • Seriously, can we marvel at Boras’ abilities or what, Dice-K notwithstanding (he was in a tough place, power-wise, on that one obviously). With Zito, he had all the power. Several interested teams, including a New York squad. A lefty. An inflated market. And he STILL got well more than the next best thing, by a long shot, while getting his guy to a league where he should do better, in the same city, for a quantity of dollars that was apparently nowhere near the next highest offer. By my estimation (relying on rumor, so take that for what it’s worth), Zito got an extra year and almost $45M more than the next highest bidding team. How the heck does Boras convince people to do this?!

    SF December 28, 2006, 7:27 pm
  • SF, the idea is that neither the Yankees – nor anyone else – can predict what Randy will give in 2007. I’ll bet you Cashman is tired of not knowing what Randy will give game in and game out, and would rather garner some young prospects for him, as well as handily unloading $16 million from the 2007 payroll.
    The Yankees are in a pretty good position with Randy. Arizona actually is very interested in getting him back, and so are a number of other teams, most notably San Diego. And now that Zito has signed with their division rivals, it just increases the need for them to do something. Also, imagine if Randy’s back surgery wasn’t just on a herniated disc, but on something that took a year to recover from. They’d be on the hook for $16 million for a player who likely played his last game this past October.

    Andrew December 28, 2006, 7:34 pm
  • …i’m guessing that the yankees have convinced themselves that rj is tradeable health-wise, and expect that he could pass a physical allowing him to pitch this coming season…of course, passing a physical, and being physically able to perform, are 2 very different things…

    dc December 28, 2006, 8:09 pm
  • It is going to be very interesting next season when those free agents hit the market. I figure there is going to be a knee jerk from some of the owners over “real value” next year and some players are going to be possibly shocked by the potential lack of offers. This seems to be building back to what happened a few years ago after the Manny and ARod contracts.

    Rob December 28, 2006, 8:25 pm
  • good point on SDs need to up the ante with SFs signing of Zito, Andrew.

    ansky December 28, 2006, 10:34 pm
  • SF- with barry being the rocker type, i would suggest he throws a couple back at the Zeitgeist. hands down the best bar in SF. and now it looks like he can buy a few rounds.

    sf rod December 29, 2006, 5:59 pm
  • with SFs signing of Zito, Andrew
    I want to be clear: I did not sign Barry Zito. I do not have that kind of money.
    (Now, if YF would just start revenue sharing it’d be a different story…)

    SF December 29, 2006, 8:10 pm
  • Word has it that Joe Zito (Barry’s dad)called Cashman and told them they could have Barry for the bargain basement price of 119 mil. over 7 yrs. Seems Joe wanted Barry to be a Yank. Cashman: “Thanks, but no thanks.”
    He should have called Steinbrenner down in Tampa. Ol’ George probably would have went for it. Heh.

    Whatever December 29, 2006, 11:30 pm

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