Big Cats: Tigers-Sox Gamer I

Tigers prefer to bite the throats of large prey. After biting, the tiger then uses its muscled forelimbs to hold onto the prey, bringing it to the ground. The tiger remains latched onto the neck until its prey dies.

(from Wikipedia)

OK, not the best image to start tonight’s thread.  But we thought it appropriate to serve warning, as the Wikipedia entry on "Baltimore Oriole" was sufficiently benign ("they mainly eat insects, berries, nectar, and are often seen sipping at hummingbird feeders") and their team played as such.  Today the Tigers come to Boston as the top team in the AL Central and the second best squad on the Junior Circuit.  They are 23-13, lead the AL in slugging and triples, are second in doubles, fourth in home runs.  These aren’t the Orioles.  Their manager won’t be pulling a starter throwing a gem with one out in the ninth at 91 pitches.  Tonight’s starter wears Kurt Rambis glasses.  And Sheff is on their team.  Tougher times ahead for our squad.  Here’s your game thread for tonight’s action.

Lineups after the jump.


SS Julio Lugo
1B Kevin Youkilis
DH David Ortiz
LF Manny Ramirez
RF J.D. Drew
3B Mike Lowell
C Jason Varitek
CF Coco Crisp
RF Dustin Pedroia
SP Daisuke Matsuzaka

CF Curtis Granderson
LF Craig Monroe
DH Gary Sheffield
RF Magglio Ordonez
SS Carlos Guillen
C Pudge Rodriguez
1B Sean Casey
2B Nefi Perez
3B Brandon Inge
SP Nate Robertson

108 comments… add one
  • Re the lineups: I have a sneaking suspicion that dPod might actually not play in right field tonight …

    pale blue eyes May 14, 2007, 5:36 pm
  • Probably right, PBE. The Globe shows both Drew and Pedroia out there. Cue the “short fielder” jokes about Dustin…

    SF May 14, 2007, 5:37 pm
  • Will Sheff by welcomed back with the chants of “Garrrry, Garrrry” and “Who’s your dealer,” as in the days of old… or is he less of a target now that he’s not wearing Yankee pinstripes?

    Hudson May 14, 2007, 6:33 pm
  • Does JD plan on hitting again this year??? Or is that asking a little much for $55 mil??

    jp - SF May 14, 2007, 6:34 pm
  • 2 points to sf for the rambis reference.

    YF May 14, 2007, 6:46 pm
  • Drew’s always been a streaky guy. He famously started his Dodgers career 0-25, even. Don’t worry–he’ll hit.
    I actually see it as a good thing that the Sox are doing so well with such inconsistent production from key players. I think it bodes well for later when the pitching staff is bound to hit some regression.
    Also, the Yankees have scored a grand total of 2 more runs than the Sox entering today, but the Red Sox have allowed 50 fewer. Amazing.

    mouse - SF May 14, 2007, 6:50 pm
  • The Yankees have a healthy line-up, that’s the all star group with the bats out there and count me with the people that are just blown away with how little they are producing, it aint gonna last though, I won’t be even remotely comfortable until we have a 15 game lead on them.

    LocklandSF May 14, 2007, 7:06 pm
  • This is the scariest part of a Matsuzaka start…1st inning. Of course, until he goes about 3 games without one of those famous one-inning control losses, every inning might be something of an adventure.

    Devine May 14, 2007, 7:09 pm
  • What happened on Drew’s error?

    Tyrel SF May 14, 2007, 7:11 pm
  • Either it hopped up into his shoulder or he scooped it into his shoulder. Only saw the replay briefly.

    Devine May 14, 2007, 7:12 pm
  • 2 down after the popup, Ordonez up with man on 2nd.

    Devine May 14, 2007, 7:14 pm
  • Got him. Nice inning. Single (error), K, popup, K.

    Devine May 14, 2007, 7:16 pm
  • Thanks D

    Tyrel SF May 14, 2007, 7:18 pm
  • No prob, Tyrel.

    Devine May 14, 2007, 7:20 pm
  • ortiz’s career AB vs Nate R is not very good…

    mike May 14, 2007, 7:25 pm
  • Good contact, right at a fielder from Ortiz.

    Devine May 14, 2007, 7:26 pm
  • There’s a makeup call on Manny for the blown call at 2nd base.

    Ayuh - SF May 14, 2007, 7:29 pm
  • Dude, I’m really surprised they’re not calling interference on Manny there. But he strikes out…so I guess justice is kinda served, unfortunately.

    Devine May 14, 2007, 7:29 pm
  • Two blown calls in one play. Wonder if that ties a record.

    Devine May 14, 2007, 7:31 pm
  • I agree with you there, Devine. My guess is that the homeplate ump knew he screwed the pooch on the steal, so that next pitch was going to be a strike as long as it stayed in the park

    Ayuh - SF May 14, 2007, 7:33 pm
  • 1-2-3 inning for DiceK, 27 pitches through two.

    Hudson May 14, 2007, 7:37 pm
  • JD Ks.

    Hudson May 14, 2007, 7:39 pm
  • Lowell on first after a nice grab but off-the-mark throw by Inge, ruled an infield single.

    Hudson May 14, 2007, 7:40 pm
  • Another odd play as the Tigers’ SS boots a hard-hit grounder up the middle, 1st and 2nd, 1 out.

    Hudson May 14, 2007, 7:44 pm
  • Another odd play as the Tigers’ SS boots a hard-hit grounder up the middle, 1st and 2nd, 1 out.
    But Crisp GIDPs, opportunity lost.

    Hudson May 14, 2007, 7:45 pm
  • Erp. DiceK gopher ball to Granderson makes it 1-0.

    Hudson May 14, 2007, 7:53 pm
  • Three outs; apart from the solo shot DiceK has looked pretty good.

    Hudson May 14, 2007, 7:54 pm
  • Hm. Is everyone having dinner?

    Hudson May 14, 2007, 7:56 pm
  • Apparently, Hudson.

    Ayuh - SF May 14, 2007, 7:57 pm
  • Dice has looked pretty good, besides the dinger. I think I mentioned before he reminds me of Catfish Hunter. Basically a power pitcher with a good curve, but a tendency to give up homeruns.

    Ayuh - SF May 14, 2007, 7:58 pm
  • Nice catch by Granderson.

    Ayuh - SF May 14, 2007, 7:59 pm
  • Varitek doubles with two outs after an excellent 10-pitch at-bat.

    Hudson May 14, 2007, 8:22 pm
  • After another long at bat Crisp singles to center to bring Tek home; 2-1 Sox.
    Robertson’s pitch count is way up, to 83. 2 out in the bottom of the 4th.
    Coco shaking his hand as if he stung it a bit on that bloop.

    Hudson May 14, 2007, 8:27 pm
  • Tigers can’t come up with a grounder up the middle by Pedroia, now 1st and 2nd, still two out.
    88 pitches for Robertston.

    Hudson May 14, 2007, 8:30 pm
  • Lugo grounds out, stranding two, but not before building the pitch count to 94.
    It’ll be good news if the Sox can start to tire out Detroit’s bullpen early in this 4-game series.
    2-1 Sox, going to the top of the 5th.

    Hudson May 14, 2007, 8:33 pm
  • I’m here, I’m here! What did I miss?
    Besides Pedroia playing right field? :P

    Rain SF May 14, 2007, 8:33 pm
  • Lugo gets out, but gets the pitch count to 94. Robertson looked exhausted by the end of that inning, which was over 35 pitches (I lost count).

    JoshA May 14, 2007, 8:34 pm
  • Everyone in the order except Manny and J.D. has already hit tonight.

    Hudson May 14, 2007, 8:34 pm
  • Evening everyone. Just got home. How has Dice looked thus far?

    Rob May 14, 2007, 8:35 pm
  • Pretty much a pitcher’s duel so far, Rain. Granderson hit a homerun off of DiceK, and the Sox have been able to scratch out a couple of runs. Last inning, the Sox made the Detroit pitcher do a lot of work, got his pitch count up.

    Ayuh - SF May 14, 2007, 8:36 pm
  • Thanks for the update, Hudson.
    Dice-K looks good. 1 run, 4 hits. Maybe he had the April jitters. :P

    Rain SF May 14, 2007, 8:36 pm
  • 21-minutes of sitting for DiceK during that long bottom of the 4th…
    … Great grab by Pedroia, diving to his left, one gone in the top of the 5th, 2-1 Sox.

    Hudson May 14, 2007, 8:37 pm
  • Rob- Dice has looked good. He’s throwing strikes, getting a lot of ground balls. He gave up one homerun, but settled right back down.

    Ayuh - SF May 14, 2007, 8:38 pm
  • Rain: For me so far the highlight of the game were two long at bats (9 and 10 pitches each) by Tek (double) and Coco (single). Great discipline by each.
    1-2-3 inning for DiceK, 73 pitches through five.

    Hudson May 14, 2007, 8:39 pm
  • Thanks Ayuh…
    Blacked out on NESN and FOXDE

    Rob May 14, 2007, 8:41 pm
  • Looks like Robertson might be tiring a bit now. Papi nearly knocked the wall over with that shot.
    And now Manny lines a shot over 3rd, scoring Ortiz.

    Ayuh - SF May 14, 2007, 8:44 pm
  • A Papi double and a Manny single make it 3-1 Sox.
    Robertson still in, 103 pitches. Chance for Drew to knock him out here.

    Hudson May 14, 2007, 8:45 pm
  • What happened for Ortiz to score?

    Rob May 14, 2007, 8:45 pm
  • JD K #2.

    Hudson May 14, 2007, 8:46 pm
  • Rob- Papi doubled off the wall, then Manny singled to score him.

    Ayuh - SF May 14, 2007, 8:47 pm
  • Lowell short single to right, Manny to 2nd, still two out.
    Robertson at 109 pitches but still in there.

    Hudson May 14, 2007, 8:48 pm
  • Manny drove in Ortiz with a single along the third base line.
    Robertson’s at 111, how long they going to leave him in?

    JoshA May 14, 2007, 8:49 pm
  • Tek with another disciplined at-bat, works it full, but flies out to left-center on the 7th pitch. (It looked like it might be a hit off the bat, but it stayed up there.)
    3-1 Sox, going to the top of the 6th.

    Hudson May 14, 2007, 8:52 pm
  • Hmm, maybe J.D. is uncomfortable at the plate today.
    Is Pap available tonight? Hope so.

    Rain SF May 14, 2007, 8:53 pm
  • I see Sheffield still does that spastic bat-wagging thing.

    Hudson May 14, 2007, 8:56 pm
  • DiceK gets K #4, strands a Tiger at 2nd again. He seems to be getting more comfortable pitching with runners on.
    To the bottom of the 6th, 3-1 Sox, Tim Byrdak (?) in to pitch for Detroit.

    Hudson May 14, 2007, 9:02 pm
  • Byrdak just got called up from AAA Toledo today.

    Ayuh - SF May 14, 2007, 9:03 pm
  • Gotta give credit to John Farrell – adjusting Dice-K’s mechanics from the stretch.

    Rain SF May 14, 2007, 9:06 pm
  • AYet another nice stab by Pedroia, two down in the 7th, DiceK at 96 pitches.

    Hudson May 14, 2007, 9:15 pm
  • Inning over, 100 pitches for DiceK, to the bottom of the 7th, 3-1 Sox.
    Will we see the Oki/Pap show here?

    Hudson May 14, 2007, 9:17 pm
  • Might as well send the other half of the Oriental Express at them.

    Rob May 14, 2007, 9:20 pm
  • Let em feel like a train hit em tonight

    Rob May 14, 2007, 9:21 pm
  • Wow. J.D. has a hat trick.
    Up to Oki and Paps now.

    Rain SF May 14, 2007, 9:24 pm
  • JD K #3. Geez.
    Seven gone. DiceK had his jacket over his arm in the dugout as if to keep it warm…

    Hudson May 14, 2007, 9:24 pm
  • Dice is still out there. Hmm.
    But he gets Inge and Granderson to ground out.

    Rain SF May 14, 2007, 9:29 pm
  • Wow, what an effort by Dice K. Goes 8 strong innings after we worked the BP yesterday. This was the type of effort we were buying.

    Rob May 14, 2007, 9:29 pm
  • 3 groundouts, 9 pitches, DiceK cruising… Wonder if Tito will let him try for a CG here?

    Hudson May 14, 2007, 9:30 pm
  • Maybe if we score some insurance runs, Hudson, but if this stays close, I expect Paps out there.

    Rain SF May 14, 2007, 9:31 pm
  • I doubt it, Hudson. He’s well above 100 pitches now, and Papelbon has hardly worked at all, and it’s a save situation.

    Ayuh - SF May 14, 2007, 9:32 pm
  • Bobby “Oh” Seay in for the Tigers. A couple insurance runs would be just *swell* here.

    Hudson May 14, 2007, 9:32 pm
  • sox just can’t catch a break

    dc May 14, 2007, 9:32 pm
  • DiceK’s ERA is down to 4.25.

    Hudson May 14, 2007, 9:34 pm
  • Pick off attempts on Tek?

    Rob May 14, 2007, 9:40 pm
  • Come on Lugo…..

    Rob May 14, 2007, 9:42 pm
  • 8 hits for the bottom of the order tonite. :)

    TJ May 14, 2007, 9:43 pm
  • Sox load the bags, 1 out, Lugo up.
    And Lugo triples to make it 6-1. Just like that.

    Hudson May 14, 2007, 9:44 pm
  • wow more great late game heroics.

    TJ May 14, 2007, 9:44 pm
  • Youks brings Julio jome, I mean home, with a single, now 7-1. Whole different ballgame all of a sudden.

    Hudson May 14, 2007, 9:45 pm
  • i think you send MAtsuzaka back out for the 9th now.

    TJ May 14, 2007, 9:45 pm
  • Dice K out for the ninth or Paps?

    Rob May 14, 2007, 9:45 pm
  • Sportsline is reporting Inge’s ERA as 108.00

    Rob May 14, 2007, 9:47 pm
  • It’s a tough call. I’d say send out Dice for the 9th now, but keep Okie warm.

    Ayuh - SF May 14, 2007, 9:48 pm
  • Was this Inge’s first appearance relieving this year?

    Rob May 14, 2007, 9:51 pm
  • Who pitched that inning? I think CBS Sportsline hoodwinked me.

    Rob May 14, 2007, 9:53 pm
  • DiceK to pitch the 9th.
    No -nj-r–s here.

    Hudson May 14, 2007, 9:53 pm
  • Fresh Meat,, Bobby Seay is so delicious .. Redsox leads Tigers 7-1 . Hmmm, Tasty…

    Beantown Monster May 14, 2007, 9:54 pm
  • The Orioles lost to the Jays. So if the Sox hold on, they’ll be up 8.5 over New York and 9 over Baltimore.

    Hudson May 14, 2007, 9:56 pm
  • And he Ks Magglio Ordonez again!

    Hudson May 14, 2007, 9:58 pm
  • Complete game for Dice-K.
    This is too easy.

    I'm Bill McNeal May 14, 2007, 9:59 pm
  • Guillen flies out to Crisp, 2 outs, Sheff on 1st.

    Hudson May 14, 2007, 9:59 pm
  • Oops. Gameday crossed me up.

    I'm Bill McNeal May 14, 2007, 9:59 pm
  • DiceK gets Pudge with a grounder.
    Impressive win all around. Tight, tough baseball.

    Hudson May 14, 2007, 10:00 pm
  • NOW we get the CG. 124 pitches.
    Damn impressive.

    I'm Bill McNeal May 14, 2007, 10:01 pm
  • JD is the only person on the RSox roster without a hit…maybe he doesn’t like baseball?

    mike May 14, 2007, 10:01 pm
  • 123 pitches, 6 hits, 1 ER, 0BB and 5K’s
    What a job he did tonight.

    Rob May 14, 2007, 10:02 pm
  • Complete game for Dice.
    Nice. Red Sox are rolling now.
    Good night, everybody!

    Rain SF May 14, 2007, 10:02 pm
  • yes JD was the only one with a donut tonight

    Rob May 14, 2007, 10:03 pm
  • Good game for Dice.. but was a CG necessary? Especially with a 6 run lead? I know I’ve been too used to Torre’s “tactics”, but 123 or so seems a bit unnecessary..

    Lar May 14, 2007, 10:48 pm
  • i believe he averaged a little less than 120 pitchers per game in japan, 117 i think – if memory serves. despite the fact that he is now in a 5 man rotation, it’s not entirely surprising that he was allowed to get up to 123. i liked the move, i think it will go a long way mentally to have gotten his first successful MLB complete game out of the way.

    minomni SF May 14, 2007, 11:04 pm
  • Against the Tigers, for f***’s sake.
    What a great friggin’ effort. 6 hits, and one ER from a solo shot. Just incredible.

    Devine May 14, 2007, 11:10 pm
  • i also don’t think the notion of him needing more pitches to stay sharp is ridiculous, considering the types of workloads he’s been accustomed to. from what i’ve read, his workouts now are a mere fraction of his typical regimen – perhaps the adjustment needs to be more gradual. he had 14 cgs last season with seibu.
    interesting stats from mike plugh at matsuzaka watch:
    2.00 ERA
    9.25 K/9
    4.63 K/BB
    those would be his totals if we can somehow negate the three games in which wildness possessed him for one inning. hope games like tonight will effectively relieve those seemingly mental issues and that he realizes that he can dominate this league.

    minomni SF May 14, 2007, 11:40 pm
  • So I missed this game due to work.. but WOW. CG for Matsuzxaka! Rest for a worked bullpen! (our bullpen DID get worked up the past 3 games with Beckett, Schill leaving earlier than normal and Tavarez being Tavarez)
    Just.. wow.
    I’m in awe.

    Dionysus May 15, 2007, 12:40 am
  • “Circle June 2. That’s the day Roger Clemens would be scheduled to pitch in Fenway Park, the middle game of a three-game set against the Yankees, based on current projections. Yankees manager Joe Torre said Clemens will start Friday for Single A Tampa. Depending on how it goes, Torre said, Clemens will make either two or three minor league starts. Assuming he takes the customary four days between starts…”
    I HAVE TIX!!! Oh please oh please oh please let this be Roger’s debut. Please.

    Tyrel SF May 15, 2007, 12:39 pm
  • I have tickets to that game, too! That would be SUPER.

    Devine May 15, 2007, 1:28 pm
  • I wasn’t sure where else to put this, but BDD has an article about the state of the Sox farm system, including Pawtucket’s tandem of prospect outfielders (Murphy, Moss, Ellsbury). Interesting stuff.

    Scott SF May 15, 2007, 4:06 pm
  • dice-k/mr. sparkle has giving up 2 runs in his last 16 innings. it seems like only a month ago people where trying to compare him to igawa, with igawa being the better value. what a house of cards.

    sf rod May 15, 2007, 4:34 pm
  • Slow day in YFSF ville, eh?
    Let’s see…
    Phil Hughes is the next Ben McDonald.
    There. That oughta liven things up a bit.

    Nate=Soxfan May 15, 2007, 5:12 pm
  • Thanks for linking to that article Scott, good read.

    Tyrel SF May 15, 2007, 6:29 pm

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