Bob Ryan Likes His Yankees Hateable, Oh And Drew Too

While we’re talking about who hates who, let’s give it up for Bob Ryan, who at 61 is still savvy enough to get new TV deals, come around to realize the value of a blog, actually know what Baseball Prospectus is and reference it (well, sort of) in an article without calling it Voodoo, and come up with zingers like,

"Bobby Abreu has awakened from his coma … Johnny Damon, freed from the obligation to play a position he can
no longer handle in a big league manner"


"The one piece of recent good news is that J.D. Drew now actually is
showing a pulse. Not to put pressure on Mr. Low Key or anything, but is
this a signal that he’s actually planning on earning that $14 million Theo has so benevolently thrust at him? What a concept."

I’m thinking the Ryan family won’t be getting a Christmas card from the slug Drew family this holiday.  Or any other.  Ryan is curmudgeonly (actually pretty funny schtick at times). He often gets wayward and wistful for the way Things Once Were.  I’m sure I missed his best days, back when the Celtics were The Celtics.  However, Ryan did pen one of the finer articles I’ve read on the concept of fandom.  I make it a point to read his columns, which I can’t say about many other big-name columnists, and I enjoy them thoroughly.  Anyway, he concludes today with the idea that Red Sox fans like the Yankees to be good, because it makes them more hateable, a concept which I think many Red Sox fans will find utterly ridiculous.

19 comments… add one
  • I attribute the idea that Ryan’s best days were back in the Cetlic prime due to a comment from SF I read ages ago that I can’t find.

    attackgerbil June 12, 2007, 1:28 pm
  • I think, when the crowd at Fenway chants “Yankees Suck”, they like it to be true.

    Kazz June 12, 2007, 1:35 pm
  • “Red Sox fans like the Yankees to be good”
    Yeah, ah… No. Not even a little bit, thank you very much.
    I like Bob, but his recent attempts to pick apart the mind of Red Sox fans have really been way off base.

    LocklandSF June 12, 2007, 1:50 pm
  • While I was trying to fix the article link, Typepad temporarily mangled the post. It’s fixed now, I think.

    attackgerbil June 12, 2007, 1:54 pm
  • I can’t stand Bob Ryan on tv. He’s smug and he doesn’t do well in front of the camera. I enjoy PTI, but when he was on every day last winter, it was unwatchable.

    Mike C June 12, 2007, 2:31 pm
  • I think if you asked most Sox fans, they’d tell you that they want the Yankees in last place, about 130 games out. I love it when they’re bad…mainly because it doesn’t happen too often. Although, somewhere in the world there is a 7 year old wondering if the Yanks are going to win a championship in their lifetime. :)

    jp-sf June 12, 2007, 2:38 pm
  • ryan is just a crude enough and disconnected enough blowhard to earn himself a lifetime of guest appearance gigs on espn, where the facts and research are not required…

    dc June 12, 2007, 2:49 pm
  • Given the choice of the Yankees being a threat and the Yankees not being a threat, I’ll take the “not a threat” scenario every time, traffic to this website be damned.
    Of course we love the drama of meaningful head-to-head games between our two teams, that’s true, but if push came to shove I’d rather the Yankees were playing for pride in those contests, the Sox for an ever-expanding lead.

    SF June 12, 2007, 3:08 pm
  • Sorry, don’t know where to put this, but what’s going on with this Runelvys Hernandez?

    Anonymous June 12, 2007, 4:13 pm
  • Ryan didn’t grow up in New England, as he admitted lately in another of his failed attempts to psychoanalyze the minds of Sox fans. I like him too, and he’s still must-reading unlike another Globe columnist who once was among the best in the biz, but I think I’ll trade a little bit of Yankee hate for a lot of Yankee suck.

    Paul SF June 12, 2007, 4:22 pm
  • Per Edes and Extra Bases, lineup shakeup tonight: DP = leadoff. Lugo = 9-hole.

    QuoSF June 12, 2007, 4:46 pm
  • Finally. Now if he would just put Drew in the two hole for a few days and let him see some fastballs…

    Regular_Brad. June 12, 2007, 4:59 pm
  • How about DP = leadoff and El Vacio = bench??

    jp-sf June 12, 2007, 5:34 pm
  • Not yet..he’ll come around to his norm. I’m not bailing on him yet.

    Regular_Brad. June 12, 2007, 5:37 pm
  • I would love to say that I am such a baseball fan that I want the Yankees to be good so that it will mean more when the Sox beat them. But I am a small minded person who is disappointed that the Sox lead is no longer double digits…

    rootbeerfloat June 12, 2007, 6:07 pm
  • As much as I love the Yankees beating the Red Sox, I have to go with rbf when he says that he wants the opposing team to be good so it means something.
    I well remember last September and how boring it was. Although it was a lot less stressful, it just wasn’t as much fun. My ideal situation is for the Red Sox to be good, but the Yankees to be better. Thankfully for me that happens a lot more often than not :)

    AndrewYF June 12, 2007, 8:08 pm
  • i’m able to relax more when the red sox aren’t a threat to the yankees, but i have to agree with those who say the games between the 2 are more fun when there’s something on the line…even if nerve-wracking…

    dc June 12, 2007, 10:52 pm
  • Ryan writes with an emotional angle which connects with fans (often successfully I think), but I lost what respect I had for him after his pre-season character assassination piece on JD Drew.
    There’s been enough years of head-on Yanks-Sox tension that I’ve experienced (and taken abuse for, nearly always while outnumbered) that I’m more than willing to tolerate the occasional period of Yankee suckitude, YanksFan angina, and meaningless head-to-heads.

    Jim in CT SF June 13, 2007, 9:58 am
  • Do not censor Ryan. He can say whatever he wants. Let’s not follow the gov’t down the path of censorship. After all, censorship is becoming America’s favorite past-time. The US gov’t (and their corporate friends), already detain protesters, ban books like “America Deceived” from Amazon and Wikipedia, shut down Imus and fire 21-year tenured, BYU physics professor Steven Jones because he proved explosives, thermite in particular, took down the WTC buildings. Free Speech forever (especially for critics).
    Last link (before Stark County DIstrict Library caves to pressure and drops the title):
    America Deceived (book)

    Norman June 13, 2007, 6:34 pm

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