Busy News Day

Sports Illustrated reports the Yankees have traded Gary Sheffield to Detroit for:

  • Humberto Sanchez
  • Kevin Whelan
  • Anthony Claggett

Not quite up on my baseball prospects knowledge, but Heyman informs us Sanchez is "highly touted."

(Hat tip: MLB Trade Rumors).

22 comments… add one
  • What the fudge? I suppose it’s for “free”, then might as well, but I’ve never heard of these people.
    Ah well…

    Lar November 10, 2006, 4:00 pm
  • Lar, hold your head up. mlbtraderumors has this analysis:
    “It’s a superb deal for New York at first glance, as Sanchez has great stuff and profiles as at least a middle-rotation starter for years to come. Baseball Prospectus’s Kevin Goldstein ranked Sanchez as the 11th best right-handed starting prospect in the game, holding him back only because of elbow concerns. The Yankees should have young guys comprising 60% of their rotation by the end of ’07.
    And Whelan, if things break right, could be setting up Mariano Rivera by 2008. The 23 year-old throws four different fastballs.”

    Nick-YF November 10, 2006, 4:02 pm
  • Well, one thing Gary seems to have been able to do was get the Yankees to move him quickly. I bet cashman was hoping to get a bit more for him but figured his value would go down everytime he did an interview.

    walein November 10, 2006, 4:02 pm
  • Thanks, Nick. I suppose it’s been awhile since a Yanks fan have to look further in the future than, say, next year.
    I didn’t expect this though – I would’ve expected Cashman to shop around and get a great offer, or at least see what happens with the Matsuzaka to determine their needs..
    But if the scouts do their job right, that sounds pretty good for the Yanks’ farm system in addition to what they already have..

    Lar November 10, 2006, 4:06 pm
  • Oh ya, it’s worth noting that Shef got 2 more years out of it too. Somehow it became a win-win situation, despite the fact that Shef’s pretty much being an ass the last week or so..

    Lar November 10, 2006, 4:13 pm
  • I like this deal. With Sheff’s attitude and the money he’s due no one was going to give up a Verlander-type for him. Rather than just letting him walk, Yanks are getting some good-to-great prospects for him. I’d say that’s a pretty good deal. And, I imagine Cashman did shop around, before they picked up the option. I bet he even had a preliminary deal in place already…

    yankeemonkey November 10, 2006, 4:22 pm
  • Busy Busy Busy News Day:
    http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20061108&content_id=1736956&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb
    Ya, at this point, I can’t see how Jeter isn’t going win the MVP. Too lazy for arguments one way or the other, but it seems to lean that way..

    Lar November 10, 2006, 4:56 pm
  • Oh ya. Joe Mauer is so good he also won SS as an OF.

    Lar November 10, 2006, 4:58 pm
  • “I ain’t going to say who it is, but I know who it is. I know who the team feeds off. I know who the opposing team comes in knowing they have to defend to stop the Yankees.” gary 8/5/05
    who’ll the yankees feed off now? now opposing teams have no one they have to defend against to stop the yankees.
    and for the YF’s who are wondering who these three prospects are….they are the guy’s who’ll will be leaving next july 31st.

    sf rod November 10, 2006, 5:08 pm
  • > who’ll the yankees feed off now?
    Nicely done sarcasm, sf rod, couldn’t have said it better.
    I’m pretty excited about the prospects they got for Sheff and the money they can put towards other players.

    attackgerbil November 10, 2006, 5:35 pm
  • could be setting up Mariano Rivera by 2008
    That is, if Mariano’s arm is still attached. 2008 is a long ways away, and Mariano hasn’t been consistently healthy these last two years.

    SF November 10, 2006, 6:06 pm
  • Not sure how these moves will pan out, but stocking up young arms was obviously a priority for the Yankees. So this shows an organization that’s at least mapping itself an intelligent course, and disposing of its assets wisely. Credit Cash for that, if nothing else.

    YF November 10, 2006, 6:47 pm
  • sf, neither has papelbon
    sfrod, you’re right…the yanks may [probably] not even keep these guys for long…they may not last through the winter meetings…could be why they “passed” on dm, if the rumor about the sox winning bid is true…
    lar, leyland will tame sheffield, and he’ll probably have a good year for the tigers
    yankeemonkey, yep, cashman did his homework i’m sure…there’s a popular misconception that he simply writes a big check every time there’s a problem to solve, but my impression [granted as a biased yf] is that he’s putting a lot more into it than that…

    dc November 11, 2006, 12:02 am
  • Cashman did a tremendous job. The Yankees bargaining position on Sheffield was terrible, to be honest. I’m not talking about whether or not he’s a quality hitter when healthy. Everyone in baseball knew he was not going to ST with the Yankees next year. Basically the Tigers gave up one of their touted young SP prospects and a couple other relievers for a headache, and one which the Yankees were 99.9% guaranteed not to keep around. Kudos to Cashman, horrible job by Dombrowski.

    Quo November 11, 2006, 12:06 am
  • i think cashman did great
    he restocked the yankee’s farm when people kept saying that he kept trading off too much of their prospects
    also, if sheffield keeps up with that ferocious swing, he’s bound to hurt his wrist again
    so its a win-win deal for the Yankees

    yankeeboy November 11, 2006, 1:21 am
  • dc: What does papelbon have to do with anything? Who said anything about him?
    Not sure where you pulled that one from.
    As for Cashman, he did a good job getting value for Sheff, but why does everyone think Sheff was untradeable? He is still a potent bat, on an AL team he can DH, and a team with the dollars to extend him (as the Tigers did) is a good partner. Again, Cash made out well here, finding a suitable partner. But Sheff wasn’t dead weight, hardly. He’s still a very fine ballplayer.

    SF November 11, 2006, 11:24 am
  • ” Mariano hasn’t been consistently healthy these last two years.”
    SF, you’re wrong on this – Mariano had no injuries in ’05.

    Andrews November 11, 2006, 7:19 pm
  • sf, my reference to paplebon was to point out that injuries can happen to anyone young or old in response to your mariano post: “…Mariano hasn’t been consistently healthy these last two years.”…i’ll wait to hear how you respond to andrews about mo’s 05 health, since you’re pretty quick to pounce on my mistakes…
    i agree with you on sheffield, for all his baggage [the drama may be over with the change of scenery], there were as many as 7 teams interested in taking a chance on him…

    dc November 11, 2006, 9:34 pm
  • I’m personally not going to bet against Mariano still being an elite closer in 2008. Seems foolish, as well as discounting THE major weapon the enemy team has that no one else quite has (with significant credit to Joe Nathan and the Twins). I do think his seasons will start/have started to somewhat mirror Manny’s. He’ll start slow, and all the “journalists” will start to throw out articles about one or the other being “done”, while at the end of the year Manny will still be a .300 40HR 130RBI hitter and Mo will save near 40 with an ERA around 2.00.
    SF, my particular point about Sheff and the trade was simply this: Everyone knew the Yankees weren’t going to go into 2007 with Sheff on the roster, so was their bargaining position that strong? Nothing to do with the player or his sizable baggage.
    For a (bad) comparison, would Coco Crisp have cost us Andy Marte if the Sox had resigned Damon after 2005? The Indians KNEW we needed a high-energy high-output replacement for Johnny Damon, and took one of the most highly-regarded prospects in all of baseball(at the time) for Crisp. We had a bad bargaining position.
    Similarly, the Yankees had/should have had a bad position simply because everyone KNEW they were going/needed to rid themselves of Senor Assclown. I’ve made the other points before, but this is the one that I think really should have sealed the fate of the Yankees to accept pennies on the dollar. They didn’t, and a lot of credit needs to go to Cashman for that. I realize multiple teams being involved made it somewhat of a competition, but I still think just getting Humberto Sanchez alone for Sheff would have been a good deal for the Stankees.

    Quo November 12, 2006, 1:23 am
  • quo, i’m not sure exactly what you meant by “…discounting THE major weapon the enemy team has…”, or who you thought was doing it, since it wasn’t me, but the paranoid in me feels the need to respond…i wasn’t discounting papelbon [i assume you meant him] as the sox major weapon, although his career as a premier closer seems to be over as he moves into the rotation next year…no reason not to believe he won’t be an effective starter though…the word “discount” suggests that you believe i don’t see his value…you won’t find that in any comment i’ve made on this site…i merely mentioned that he, like mo, was injured this year…nothing more than that…
    …it would be naive to think rivera will go on forever, but through his career he’s been the most reliable, successful, and healthy closer in the game…this year was no different up to the point he was shut down…while the last month of the season was troubling, it isn’t necessarily a sign of aging…
    …sheffield only had value because several teams still believed that he can come back and produce at the pre-injury level, which was quite impressive if you check the stats…since it was the tigers with the winning “bid”, don’t underestimate the influence that leyland had on the deal, since he and the gm have dealt with sheffield in the past, and they really wanted him from what i’ve heard…i see what you’re trying to say with the crisp comparison, but like the bard-mirabelli deal, it was reverse-desperation…you were trying to acquire players, not dump them…and other teams took advantage of your vulnerability…the yanks probably would have been happy with a 6-pack and a bag of chips in exchange for sheffield…anything more than that looks like a steal…

    dc November 12, 2006, 2:55 am
  • Actually, dc, you did unfortunately miss my point. I was talking about Mariano when I was talking about the major weapon the enemy team has, not Papelbon. The points you made about Mo were exactly the ones I was making.

    Quo November 12, 2006, 9:19 am
  • How come I remember Mo missing some time in ’05? I might be wrong about this.
    But dc, your point about Papelbon was irrelevant to the discussion about Mo. It was a non sequitir.

    SF November 12, 2006, 9:32 am

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