Disturbing Dreams: Yanks-Sox Gamer III

Curt Schilling was in my dream two nights ago. It was disturbing. No, it didn’t involve any gyrotonic machines or Curt blurting out, "You’re with me, leather." He was just a friend, a buddy I knew my whole life. And we were having a conversation about baseball, specifically about how to throw an effective splitter. And then the dream jump cut to me on a pitcher’s mound in a Red Sox uniform and Curt was screaming encouragement from the dugout. At that point I woke up in a cold sweat.

Anyone want to interpet that one for me?

Tonight, my mentor goes for the Sox. The Yanks run out Jaret Wright. The Bombers go for the sweep (aided by Mother Nature). The Sox hope to save face.  This is your thread for comment if they get the game in.

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  • Tonight, I’m in the 7th level of hell, a dinner party with strangers, LadyLockland’s work friends, hosted by a Yankee fan. She tells me I agreed to this weeks ago, I call bullshit. If I don’t remember it, I didn’t agree to it.
    Shit.
    Go Sox!

    LocklandSF June 8, 2006, 5:48 pm
  • You want to have sex with your mother? Or is that too conventional an interpretation?

    SF June 8, 2006, 5:50 pm
  • wait, so this dream was on 6/6/06?
    that might be a clue

    airk June 8, 2006, 6:16 pm
  • If there’s a 6/6/6 joke I haven’t heard it.

    Nate June 8, 2006, 6:24 pm
  • It’s pretty clear Nick that in addition to wanting to marry a Red Sox fan (as we’ve discussed previously), you actually want to be a member of the Red Sox. And if you want to play for them, it’s clear you want them to win.
    I suppose this explains why you did not “adequately defend the Yankees” enough back before the season began…

    Paul SF June 8, 2006, 6:27 pm
  • Tonight’s lineup is certain to give SF an aneurysm: Tek 6th, Youk 8th in the order.

    yankeemonkey June 8, 2006, 6:33 pm
  • Anyone check out Deadspin? Uggh. This, if true, is really really bad for baseball.

    Nick-YF June 8, 2006, 6:39 pm
  • Why won’t one Globe or Herald reporter ask Francona his reasoning for that absurd lineup?

    Paul SF June 8, 2006, 6:42 pm
  • Nick. The thing is, I was talking about that with the Deadspinner himself last night. (But before his scoop) And then SF this morning. I chose not to put any names in the “Guilty Before Innocent” post below, and still feel that’s only fair. But let’s just say that the implication, of the Deadspin post, if true, will come as no surprise.

    YF June 8, 2006, 6:54 pm
  • Here’s a question: if batting order makes so little difference (according to BP), then what they say if Manny showed up batting 9th? Or A-Rod 9th? I mean, when can you start the discussion?
    And on to the game.

    SF June 8, 2006, 6:58 pm
  • YF is right on here. And I responded with very inarticulate questions about certain St. Louis sluggers’ head size.

    SF June 8, 2006, 6:59 pm
  • Just to add fuel, here’s Gordon Edes (a really good beat writer and baseball scribe, even if he won’t ask Tito why Youk is batting 8th) on the curtain calls, from a chat today at the Globe:
    “David, it didn’t involve popping out of the dugout, but how about the Yanks making a fuss over Mike Mussina tying Jack Morris for NINTH place on the career strikeout list-not even all-time, but just the AMERICAN LEAGUE? And the crowd responds with a prolonged standing ovation? That was simply silly. But it seems to me the Yanks have been doing this for some time, the curtain calls. Like Mike Myers said, I don’t ever remember seeing one for a guy who just made a great catch, like Melky Cabrera did Tuesday night. That, too, seemed like overkill, since the fans got to cheer for him during the time he trotted back to the dugout. I have to admit; I didn’t even see the Bernie W. pop out, which I agree, also was overkill. What, just because he’s nearing the end of his career, will he get a standing O for every home run he hits? There are certain moments that call for a pop-out O, but doing it with such frequency as the Bombers and their fans diminishes the value of what should be a special moment.”

    SF June 8, 2006, 7:02 pm
  • Another night of watching the game on YES. Which means another night with the sound turned down to zero.

    SF June 8, 2006, 7:03 pm
  • SF, you don’t enjoy listening to Kay’s idiotic banter? What’s wrong with you?!

    yankeemonkey June 8, 2006, 7:07 pm
  • I don’t hate Kay at all on his ESPN show, but he morphs into this completely idiotic homer during YES broadcasts. I find that frustrating, because when he hosts his talk show he says things I could never imagine him saying during the games.

    SF June 8, 2006, 7:09 pm
  • But no comment from Edes on Youk batting ahead of a .230 hitter? Shame.
    I liked the Slate story that YF linked to a LOT. Being a member of that industry, it is irritating to quite a high degree when baseball reporters don’t do their jobs. The blanket praise for Pujols as the “post-steroid slugger” in an era when HGH is not tested is just silly, regardless of the implications or lack of them in the Deadspin article.

    Paul SF June 8, 2006, 7:09 pm
  • Coco with the leadoff flair. Raising his OBP up over .320 once again.

    SF June 8, 2006, 7:10 pm
  • 2 pitches, 2 swings. Way to make him work, guys.

    SF June 8, 2006, 7:10 pm
  • I really don’t mind Crisp leading off and M-Lor second. It at least makes sense even if I feel Youk would be better there. It’s thepost-Manny part of the lineup that’s just amazing… Let’s go Papi!

    Paul SF June 8, 2006, 7:11 pm
  • I feel a Papi bang coming.

    SF June 8, 2006, 7:11 pm
  • Sooth! OK, it was a little bang, but still a bang. 2 on for Manny.

    SF June 8, 2006, 7:13 pm
  • Well he bangs a looping single into left anyway. I feel a big game from the Sox offense coming on…

    Paul SF June 8, 2006, 7:13 pm
  • See, Melky gets no criticism here from YFs for a poor jump on that ball. A really experienced player might have had that hit from Ortiz.

    SF June 8, 2006, 7:14 pm
  • Manny! The quick lead!

    Paul SF June 8, 2006, 7:14 pm
  • YES grabs some good footage of Manny, Papi, and Melky fraternizing before the game. Very funny – great stuff.

    SF June 8, 2006, 7:15 pm
  • I thought Canrera played that inartfully, but I was wondering if he maybe was trying to deke the runner into holding at second…

    Paul SF June 8, 2006, 7:15 pm
  • Trot, then the rally kiler, if Trot doesn’t kill it first.

    SF June 8, 2006, 7:15 pm
  • Trot alternates great and horrible at bats… I hate the at bats where he’s just swinging at ever pitch…

    Paul SF June 8, 2006, 7:16 pm
  • Go the other way, Trot.
    OK – this is why I can’t listen. I turned the sound on for a moment to hear Bobby Murcer say “Trot Nixon got away with one there” on the 0-2 pitch, just as the replay showed it about 10 inches off the plate.

    SF June 8, 2006, 7:17 pm
  • Maybe this is better saved for another post, but can someone who’s more familiar with the Yanks’ farm system than I am tell me what’s the real scoop on Melky? If he lives up to potential, what are the hopes for him? Is he a Bernie? Even a Beltran? What’s the upside?

    MJL in L.A. June 8, 2006, 7:17 pm
  • who is the feed that MLB TV has?
    why can’t I get the damned NESN feed….I hate whoever I am looking at on MLB tv.
    give me a score at the top, a diamond with who is on what base…something…

    TheTree1918 June 8, 2006, 7:18 pm
  • Is it crazy to put the WEEI broadcast on my computer and listen to it while I watch the game, even if it’s like 3 minutes behind? I can’t listen to these guys…

    SF June 8, 2006, 7:19 pm
  • Good job from Trot coming back with the walk…
    Raise your hand if you want Youk batting in this situation!

    Paul SF June 8, 2006, 7:19 pm
  • Don’t, Paul. Don’t remind me…

    SF June 8, 2006, 7:20 pm
  • bases loaded 1 out…and the sinking Avg tek is up to bat….let’s try and get a seieng eye single eh tek??

    TheTree1918 June 8, 2006, 7:20 pm
  • All right, that’s on Francona right there.

    Paul SF June 8, 2006, 7:20 pm
  • Baseball Prospectus can suck my you-know-what.

    SF June 8, 2006, 7:20 pm
  • 123. We’ll take it.

    YF June 8, 2006, 7:20 pm
  • 1-2-3 DP, not even close at first even though Wright dropped the freaking ball.

    Paul SF June 8, 2006, 7:21 pm
  • hustle tek, hustle, you were jogging at the end and got gunned down.
    bases loaded and we pull a double play, stranding men AGAIN

    TheTree1918 June 8, 2006, 7:21 pm
  • Even though we’re playing with house money tonight, there’s no reason to mail this game in. C’mon Jaret!

    yankeemonkey June 8, 2006, 7:21 pm
  • I am so enraged (really, I am), I feel almost sick. I’m gonna take my dinner break and see where we lie in an hour.
    God, what a horrible waste. Horrible horrible horrible.

    Paul SF June 8, 2006, 7:22 pm
  • It’s a joke, Paul, that Tito can look at his card and think he’s doing the right thing tactically. And I agree with YF: it’s on Theo et al to get him the information. If he defies them, well that says something.
    No matter what, he’s already fucked with the Sox’ chances tonight, and we’re only in the first inning.

    SF June 8, 2006, 7:23 pm
  • Give me Youk or give me death.
    Listen, I love Tek as much as the next guy, but let him work out his mojo in the 8 hole.

    LocklandSF June 8, 2006, 7:24 pm
  • This is going to be a long night…

    SF June 8, 2006, 7:25 pm
  • Tied. That was quick.

    YF June 8, 2006, 7:25 pm
  • well that was fun….

    TheTree1918 June 8, 2006, 7:25 pm
  • That’s the way to lead off, Johnny!

    yankeemonkey June 8, 2006, 7:25 pm
  • FOR THE LOVE OF GOD IT SHOULD BE 3-1 AT LEAST RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!!!!
    ARGH!!!!!!!!!!!!

    LocklandSF June 8, 2006, 7:26 pm
  • did they give him a curtain call??

    TheTree1918 June 8, 2006, 7:26 pm
  • No, it’s not the second inning yet, Tree.

    SF June 8, 2006, 7:26 pm
  • No, Tree, they didn’t. Rest easy.

    yankeemonkey June 8, 2006, 7:27 pm
  • Just curious–has Francona offered up any rationale for batting Youk in the 8 hole?

    Spidey June 8, 2006, 7:29 pm
  • Is “I’m a moron” a rationale, Spidey?

    SF June 8, 2006, 7:31 pm
  • Possibly.

    Spidey June 8, 2006, 7:31 pm
  • Morgan just explained that Pujols is going to be a big “hole” in the St. Louis lineup.
    Well played my friend.

    walein June 8, 2006, 7:31 pm
  • Gah. Now Kay and Murcer are having a love affair with Youk.

    yankeemonkey June 8, 2006, 7:37 pm
  • Part of the trickle-down of Youk batting eighth is that since Gonzalez is behind him, he may press to hit with more power. In turn, he gets out of whatever mindset he was in leading off, and there goes the wonderful OBP. This one move makes me as mad as I can ever remember getting, over a regular season tactic.

    SF June 8, 2006, 7:39 pm
  • Would you switch Tek and Youkilis, SF? That would mean 2 more or less free outs at the bottom of the order…

    yankeemonkey June 8, 2006, 7:41 pm
  • Maybe Jared is smarter than we know. He knows that if he performs well in this game and possibly in the final series, against Boston, of the season there’s a 90% chance that the Boss will give him a contract extension for 25 million dollars (over the screams of a chained up Brian Cashman).

    walein June 8, 2006, 7:41 pm
  • why not just move some youk around?
    give it a shot?
    why keep him in the spot he is…
    as soon as they moved him there he started hitting worse…maybe toss him back up and see what happens??

    TheTree1918 June 8, 2006, 7:42 pm
  • Yes, in a heartbeat I would do that. But I would first put Youkilis at the #1 spot, or the #5 spot. #6 is less interesting, 7 or 8 I find abominable. And if he ever hits ninth Terry better hide.

    SF June 8, 2006, 7:42 pm
  • Ooooh, they just showed the Buckner moment. Excellent :D

    yankeemonkey June 8, 2006, 7:42 pm
  • So what do you think it is? Misplaced allegiance to Varitek, the rationale being that a demotion to 8th would embarrass the team captain? Tek strikes me as the type who would take it in stride. Maybe even request it. He’s got to see what we all do.

    MJL in L.A. June 8, 2006, 7:42 pm
  • HAHA the MLBtv feed stays o when the Yes gusy are off the air, so you get to see what the camera guuys are shooting, they keep taking pics of this wierd looking dude, and then the announcer goes…
    “now? do it? now?”
    lol

    TheTree1918 June 8, 2006, 7:43 pm
  • Check that – 9th would actually make more sense than 8th.

    SF June 8, 2006, 7:43 pm
  • What would you do with Coco if Youk batted leadoff, SF?

    Spidey June 8, 2006, 7:44 pm
  • Tek also a switch. There’s value there.

    YF June 8, 2006, 7:44 pm
  • I have made a long post about my ideal order, titled “New Order”, from a couple of weeks ago, Spidey, if you search the archives.

    SF June 8, 2006, 7:44 pm
  • The report over at ESPN is that the reason Grimsley was outed by the Feds is that he did cooperate with wearing a wire to incriminate Bonds.

    walein June 8, 2006, 7:45 pm
  • Right, okay, I remember that.

    Spidey June 8, 2006, 7:46 pm
  • You mean “didn’t”, W?

    SF June 8, 2006, 7:46 pm
  • SF: although he would see the plate less, batting 9th leads into the wrap around of the leadoff and the other guys.
    I could tollerate 9th on that reasoning alone.
    but I don’t see why he doesn’t hit 2nd, then toss the L’s back to back after ortiz and manny, finish off with tek, trot, Agon

    TheTree1918 June 8, 2006, 7:47 pm
  • Robi! Whoops.

    YF June 8, 2006, 7:47 pm
  • cano with a rookie mistake, ump doesn’t have to give you time kid…better pay attention :D

    TheTree1918 June 8, 2006, 7:47 pm
  • Right SF. Bernie!

    walein June 8, 2006, 7:47 pm
  • Bernie!

    Spidey June 8, 2006, 7:47 pm
  • B-b-b-b-b-ernie!

    attackgerbil June 8, 2006, 7:48 pm
  • Bernie is ON FIRE!

    yankeemonkey June 8, 2006, 7:48 pm
  • Right, Tree. I amended to say 9th would be more tolerable than 8th.
    And someone get a blood sample from Bernie, please.

    SF June 8, 2006, 7:48 pm
  • Four more years! Four more Years!

    walein June 8, 2006, 7:48 pm
  • Don’t tell me that was a fastball again…over the heart fo the plate?
    just like Damon’s ?

    TheTree1918 June 8, 2006, 7:48 pm
  • BERNIE!!!!
    Maybe he’s been reading the Pinstriped Bible. Take that!

    YF June 8, 2006, 7:48 pm
  • (No CC for Bernie!)

    yankeemonkey June 8, 2006, 7:49 pm
  • Nice grab by Youk on a hard grounder by Cairo to end the inning.
    Gotta love Bernie sprinting to first and not going into his running jog until it is out.

    attackgerbil June 8, 2006, 7:50 pm
  • Coco was in the dugout before that curveball crossed the plate.

    SF June 8, 2006, 7:52 pm
  • Crisp leads off the top of the third. Wright feeds him a strike looking and then a ball outside. Curve in the dirt for 2-1. Crisp hits a hard shot a ARod, who throws to first for the out.

    attackgerbil June 8, 2006, 7:53 pm
  • Routine play that A-Rod tries to fake into glory.

    SF June 8, 2006, 7:54 pm
  • Insideto Loretta for ball one. Strike one looking on a fastball at the knees. 1-1: fastball fouled off right. 1-2: groundball to ARod for the second out.

    attackgerbil June 8, 2006, 7:55 pm
  • Ortiz cuts on the first pitch and fouls it off left. Takes a high pitch for ball one. 1-1 is a borderline high strike. 1-2: fastball on the outside part of the plate fouled back left.

    attackgerbil June 8, 2006, 7:56 pm
  • Goodnight Papi!

    walein June 8, 2006, 7:57 pm
  • Awesome. Papi’s using Tek’s bat. EXPLAINS THAT RESULT!!!!

    YF June 8, 2006, 7:57 pm
  • 1-2, two away. Ortiz gets rung up on strike three on the inside corner. Close pitch.

    attackgerbil June 8, 2006, 7:57 pm
  • Best part of that is getting to face Manny with no one on base.

    walein June 8, 2006, 7:58 pm
  • That ump is kind of annoying with how long he takes to call balls and strikes.

    yankeemonkey June 8, 2006, 7:58 pm
  • Who is this ACE mowing through the Sox lineup? Where did he come from? Where has he been???

    YF June 8, 2006, 8:00 pm
  • Welcome to the major leagues Stinett

    walein June 8, 2006, 8:01 pm
  • Stinnett leads off for NY in the bottom of the third. Bal one outside. Fastball for strike one on the inside. Curve misses low for ball 2. Schilling blows one by Stinnett. Nice pitch. 2-2: swinging strike 3 on a high fastball. Stinnett looked lost.

    attackgerbil June 8, 2006, 8:01 pm
  • Glad Stinnett where’s Larry Bird’s number. He hits like Larry Bird.

    YF June 8, 2006, 8:03 pm
  • Damon is up. behind quickly 0-2. Fastball is fouled off to the right. barley holds up on the next 0-2 which is high and away. 1-2 is lowand inside. Nixon can’t make the play at the track and Damon is on 2nd with a double.

    attackgerbil June 8, 2006, 8:03 pm
  • Does Nixon not own any other caps?

    yankeemonkey June 8, 2006, 8:03 pm
  • Nixon with an adventure out there. Shoulda had that one.

    YF June 8, 2006, 8:03 pm
  • The Sox are getting dangerously close to “utterly embarrassing” territory. Hard to watch, honestly.

    SF June 8, 2006, 8:03 pm
  • Damon wasn’t running that out.

    attackgerbil June 8, 2006, 8:04 pm
  • Johnny repays the favor there, getting doubled off on the floater to Coco.

    SF June 8, 2006, 8:06 pm
  • Whoops.

    YF June 8, 2006, 8:06 pm
  • Ugh. Is Johnny taking baserunning tips from Manny?

    yankeemonkey June 8, 2006, 8:06 pm
  • Melky is up with Damon on second. Cuts at a high fastball for strike one. Cabrera hits it straight at a charging Crisp. Johnny screws up and gets hung out to dry as he thought it would drop, not back in time. Bad Johnny.

    attackgerbil June 8, 2006, 8:06 pm
  • Where are all my fellow Sox fans? Am I the last one not disgusted enough to stop watching?

    SF June 8, 2006, 8:08 pm
  • I’m with you on the Nixon cap thing. There’s a line between “broken in with character” and “disgusting, get a new hat.” The Angels should be fined every day for their disgusting helmets. Vlad gets so much pine tar up there you can’t even read the emblem.

    YF June 8, 2006, 8:08 pm
  • Two-one NY, top of 4 as Manny leads things off for the Sox. Outside for ball 1.

    attackgerbil June 8, 2006, 8:08 pm
  • Manny is 2 for 2 now with a base hit to left.

    attackgerbil June 8, 2006, 8:09 pm
  • Manny just lashing the hide off of the ball. And that thing was low and away.

    YF June 8, 2006, 8:09 pm
  • Oh, please, YF. I guess if it were up to you all players would have to shave, cut their hair, wear the exact same perfectly crimped uniform, and act like drones. Oh, wait, you root for the Yankees. My bad.
    I think there’s a spot for you at the Commisioner of the NFL’s office, with an attitude like that.

    SF June 8, 2006, 8:09 pm
  • F’ugly Trot, on 2-0. Sox look like gluteus maximus right now.

    SF June 8, 2006, 8:11 pm
  • Varitek: still sucking at the plate.

    SF June 8, 2006, 8:12 pm
  • ARod double clutches and it costs the Yankes the DP.. Looks like he missed the transfer. Tek on 1st without ending the inning on the FC>

    attackgerbil June 8, 2006, 8:12 pm
  • Good turn by Cano there; if A-Rod gets it out of the glove Tek is 0-2 with two GIDPs.

    SF June 8, 2006, 8:13 pm
  • Lowell singles to left. First and second.

    attackgerbil June 8, 2006, 8:13 pm
  • Walk him, right?

    SF June 8, 2006, 8:14 pm
  • Would walking Youk have been the right thing “by the numbers”? Anyone have an idea or opinion?

    SF June 8, 2006, 8:16 pm
  • Youk is up and takes strike one on the curve. 0-1 with Tek on 2nd, Lowell on 1st: Check swing strike 2 (high-outside). 0-2: damn Wright takes a long time to throw the ball. 0-2: in the dirt with the curve.

    attackgerbil June 8, 2006, 8:16 pm
  • Ya know, those “____ suck” chants are so juvenile…
    Bernie doing it all tonight!

    yankeemonkey June 8, 2006, 8:17 pm
  • Youk goes the other way and flies out to Bernie charging in right. End of the inning.

    attackgerbil June 8, 2006, 8:17 pm
  • Ear Muffs!

    YF June 8, 2006, 8:17 pm
  • Walk the bases loaded? Not the right thing.

    YF June 8, 2006, 8:18 pm
  • Don’t have the sound on, but were they cheering “Red Sox suck”, or “Youkilis Sucks”, or “Tito sucks”, out of curiosity?

    SF June 8, 2006, 8:18 pm
  • SF: Do you mean in that situation?

    attackgerbil June 8, 2006, 8:19 pm
  • YF: on what basis do you say that? Statisical, or gut? Curious to know what the actual numbers say about that, with AGone up next.

    SF June 8, 2006, 8:19 pm
  • Schilling is facing Giambi and feeds a strike followed by a ball in the dirt to make the count 1-1.

    attackgerbil June 8, 2006, 8:20 pm
  • Giambi retired 4-3 on the shift.

    attackgerbil June 8, 2006, 8:21 pm
  • Yeah, AG – with Gonzalez coming up, I wonder what the stats say about who Wright should pitch to, probablities, etc. The by-the-book is to NOT walk him (and it worked, obviously), but what do the stats tell us, especially with such a weak hitter in the on-deck circle?

    SF June 8, 2006, 8:21 pm
  • My opinion, with a righty facing a (good but not great) righty is that you pitch to him but don’t try to put anything past him. Work the edge of the plate and keep it low to try to get a ball on the ground since you have a play at any base.

    attackgerbil June 8, 2006, 8:22 pm
  • And when I say Youk is good, I mean rilly good.

    attackgerbil June 8, 2006, 8:23 pm
  • That was fast.

    YF June 8, 2006, 8:23 pm
  • I’m back, and still angry at Francona for personally killing our first-inning rally. I’d like to see what Tito defender Beth has to say about the obvious failure — and the anticipatory nature of that failure (we all knew what was going to happen. We all knew Varitek was not the hitter we wanted in that situtation).

    Paul SF June 8, 2006, 8:24 pm
  • Oooh, a magnetic picture frame giveaway! Awesome.
    (Has tickets for that game)

    yankeemonkey June 8, 2006, 8:25 pm
  • I guess there’s another example of why not to bat Youk 8th, what with a base open and a garbage hitter behind him. He’s forced to press at pitches, if he sees any good ones to hit at all. Sorry to sound like a broken record, but I just can’t lay off this decision; it’s visibly hurting the team. Many decisions don’t do that so obviously in real time, but this one is such a doozy.

    SF June 8, 2006, 8:25 pm
  • I’m not impressed by the home plate umpire tonight…

    Paul SF June 8, 2006, 8:25 pm
  • The YES gun should not be believed – they just tagged a Wright curveball at 94.

    SF June 8, 2006, 8:26 pm
  • SF: Both I guess. Mathematically your advantage has to be offset by pushing a guy forward to third, where a pb/wp scores him. The difference between a good and a crappy hitter is not THAT great, remember. All players fail most of the time. And this is a 1 run game in the 5th. Why start chancing around with risky moves this early.

    YF June 8, 2006, 8:26 pm
  • BB is not so _awful_ that I would pitch around Youk to get to him. Maybe in the NL, with a pitcher coming up in the 9 hole, I would avoid Youk. But I agree Youk shouldn’t be hitting 8 and we shouldn’t be having to think about it.
    And Gonzo gets a single. Glad Wright didn’t face him last inning. :)

    attackgerbil June 8, 2006, 8:27 pm
  • And BB singles.

    SF June 8, 2006, 8:27 pm
  • I hear ya, SF. I just don’t have anything else to say. It’s so obvious. It’s so obviously hurtful. Why isn’t anything being done about it? Edes? Masarotti? Silverman? Snow? McAdams? Anyone?? Helllooooo?

    Paul SF June 8, 2006, 8:27 pm
  • I’m very impressed with the fact that Kay is openly discussing the Grimsley/HGH fiasco. Usually YES people steer clear of that sort of talk.

    yankeemonkey June 8, 2006, 8:27 pm
  • Reasonable enough, YF. But I still wonder what the stripped-down numbers say.

    SF June 8, 2006, 8:28 pm
  • SF’s YES gun expose is the 2nd biggest revelation of the day in baseball. What’s next? Johnny Damon wasn’t the best student in high school?

    Nick-YF June 8, 2006, 8:28 pm
  • I’m not a huge Francona fan, but I will say that sometimes his frustrating tendency to stick with slumping players has paid dividends. To wit, Mark Bellhorn in the ’04 playoffs. The difference here is that he’s not just sticking with a slumping player (Tek), he’s taking a red hot player (Youk) and seemingly making it harder for him to succeed.

    MJL in L.A. June 8, 2006, 8:28 pm
  • Has Kay mentioned Giambi, YM? I think that’s a perfect way to gauge how “open” he is about it.

    SF June 8, 2006, 8:28 pm
  • Crisp sacrifices AGon to second, 1-3 on the out. Loretta up. This is a scary situation.

    attackgerbil June 8, 2006, 8:29 pm
  • Yes, SF, he just did. Very surprising.

    yankeemonkey June 8, 2006, 8:29 pm
  • Jaret Wright has been very lucky so far.

    Nick-YF June 8, 2006, 8:29 pm
  • No, Wright has been quite good so far, Nick, to be fair.

    SF June 8, 2006, 8:30 pm
  • Lucky that he’s facing a lineup put together by Terry Francona, you mean?

    Paul SF June 8, 2006, 8:30 pm
  • Now that’s some confidence in your order’s top 5 – sacrificing in the 5th inning.

    SF June 8, 2006, 8:31 pm
  • SF: he would have to mention it very delicately, should he discuss any player by name.

    attackgerbil June 8, 2006, 8:32 pm
  • Groundout puts AGon at 3rd with two down…

    Paul SF June 8, 2006, 8:32 pm
  • Oh, of course, AG.

    SF June 8, 2006, 8:32 pm
  • Loretta advances Gonzalez to third on a ground ball to short. AGon to third with Ortiz coming up.

    attackgerbil June 8, 2006, 8:33 pm
  • And Ortiz grounds out. The End. :-(

    Paul SF June 8, 2006, 8:33 pm
  • SF, watching the game, it seems to me that Wright’s been hit very hard.

    Nick-YF June 8, 2006, 8:33 pm
  • AG, it wasn’t so delicate. He said something along the lines of “You don’t know who could be using HGH. Could be Giambi, could be Pujols…” So yeah, pretty straight.

    yankeemonkey June 8, 2006, 8:33 pm
  • I question that bunt tactic, big time. With the leadoff batter coming up, a decent bat control guy with speed? Why do it? Why give up the out?

    SF June 8, 2006, 8:34 pm
  • More runners in scoring position squandered by the Sox lineup. Frustrating doesn’t begin to describe it.

    Hudson June 8, 2006, 8:34 pm
  • Nick, I don’t think he’d been hit hard at all. He gave up some hits, but most of them were sort of bloopers that dropped in. Only 2 or 3 were solid line drives.

    yankeemonkey June 8, 2006, 8:35 pm
  • The Slate article is quite frank in noting that Giambi has bulked up quite a bit since his admission. Yet no one in the vicious NY press asks any questions, says anything. Disgusting…

    Paul SF June 8, 2006, 8:35 pm
  • especially since Coco was hitting well tonight. The sac bunt is usually a bad play.

    Nick-YF June 8, 2006, 8:35 pm
  • Nick: besides Manny, there haven’t been that many hard hit balls. That last one by Ortiz was nailed, but it was still a grounder. Wright made a great pitch to get him two innings earier, and has done very nicely. I think you might be conditioned to expect less from him, but he deserves plaudits for tonight’s effort.

    SF June 8, 2006, 8:35 pm
  • SF: I doubt we will hear any regular announcer from any team speculate about any player from any team. I realize that is a broad statement. You will see it from some braver columnists and talking heads on shouting matches like ATH, but I think the “code” about not outing players regarding off-field infidelities is still well in force in the journalistic credo. Whether it should be is another discussion entirely.

    attackgerbil June 8, 2006, 8:36 pm
  • Bad play, especially in the AL. It’s not like Coco’s the pitcher or anything…

    Paul SF June 8, 2006, 8:36 pm
  • I agree, SF. Without the sacrifice, the chances of getting to both Ortiz *and* Manny go way up. And that greatly increases the chances of the runner coming home.

    Hudson June 8, 2006, 8:36 pm
  • What is it with Schilling and the home runs? It’s epidemic.

    SF June 8, 2006, 8:37 pm
  • SF: Yeah, I’d like to see the numbers too. But the more I think, the more I’m confident that they’d be pretty stark. As we all know, giving free base runners to an opponent is a horrible idea. Putting the tying and go-ahead runs in scoring position is also super dangerous. So that’s a seriously dangerous gambit. And what are you talking about in the other direction? 150 points or so of OBP, plus power? It’s a nice advantage, but all things considered it’s marginal. And it’s not like there was an open base.

    YF June 8, 2006, 8:37 pm
  • And now Cano is getting in on the act with the bombs.

    attackgerbil June 8, 2006, 8:37 pm
  • Cheating within the sport is not an off-field infidelity, but this is a logic problem among players and announcers and sportswriters that should be remedied.
    And Schilling and Beckett are KILLING my fantasy team with these home runs…

    Paul SF June 8, 2006, 8:38 pm
  • Schilling gives up another gopher ball, this time to Cano.
    Yankees: 5 baserunners, 3 runs
    Sox: 7 baserunners, 1 run

    Hudson June 8, 2006, 8:38 pm
  • Meanwhile, Robi shows its helpful not to step out when the pitch is coming.

    YF June 8, 2006, 8:39 pm
  • I have to run downtown and meet the lady. See you in an inning or two. Interesting idea you have planted in my head about journalistic integrity, SF.
    And what is up with Schilling and the long ball. Weird.

    attackgerbil June 8, 2006, 8:39 pm
  • The aggravating thing is that the HRs are not to big HR guys. Damon probably has the most power of all of them, and he’s a 15-HR guy…

    Paul SF June 8, 2006, 8:40 pm
  • Let’s face it, the Sox are just playing a bad series. From the manager on down, the performances are underwhelming. Still time left tonight, and it’s still June in the grand scheme of things, so that’s good. But there are most definitely flaws showing, and it’s really frustrating to watch.

    SF June 8, 2006, 8:40 pm
  • Not asking your sources tough questions and not investigating whether key people on your beat are acting illegally, unethically or corruptly is not journalistic integrity.
    It’s fear and journalistic laziness, and it’s pandemic in sports journalism.

    Paul SF June 8, 2006, 8:42 pm
  • Hey look, Manny’s OBP is .434. I have a good idea: let’s hit him 8th!

    SF June 8, 2006, 8:45 pm
  • Well, I’m glad they’re getting these pathetic performances out of the way now. Hopefully, they’ll spur Theo to action to remedy the problems a. on the trade market and b. with a call to the manager…

    Paul SF June 8, 2006, 8:45 pm
  • lol, But, SF, how will we do that? That’s Youk’s spot!

    Paul SF June 8, 2006, 8:46 pm
  • Tito’s like the guy in your dorm who, when involved in a game of drunken RBI Baseball, would try to squeeze that one extra pitch out of a beleagured Roger Clemens. And that pitch would then be hit by the terminally weak avatar for Jose Uribe out over the centerfield fence.

    SF June 8, 2006, 8:47 pm
  • Let’s be careful with the journalistic integrity cudgel. Michael Kay is not a journalist. He’s a paid employee of the YES network, which means a paid employee of the Yankees. So we can only expect so much from the tv guys. Investigating player misconduct is not their job.

    YF June 8, 2006, 8:47 pm
  • Uh-oh. If Nixon doesn’t GIDP, the Tek will be up with men on base, in a possible force-out position.

    SF June 8, 2006, 8:48 pm
  • Manny on with the walk. Trot on with the hit Two on, no out, JASON VARITEK at the plate…

    Paul SF June 8, 2006, 8:48 pm
  • Right, YF. I was typing that as you posted. Kay isn’t a journalist. Guys like Edes, Chass, Kepner, Gammons, are the ones to ask questions of, not the TV announcers.

    SF June 8, 2006, 8:48 pm
  • No, YF, I’m not talking about Kay. I’m talking about writers at the Times/Post/Daily News, or the Post-Dispatch, etc.

    Paul SF June 8, 2006, 8:49 pm
  • Or, good lord, anyone at ESPN…

    Paul SF June 8, 2006, 8:49 pm
  • On the other hand, YF, Kay doesn have a daily ESPN radio show on which he acts the part of the sports “journalist”, so he does have some obligations, just not the same as your conventional print writers.

    SF June 8, 2006, 8:49 pm
  • NFW.

    SF June 8, 2006, 8:50 pm
  • Hey, Tek comes through! 3-2…

    Paul SF June 8, 2006, 8:50 pm
  • Lowell, swinging at first pitch, gets lucky…

    Paul SF June 8, 2006, 8:51 pm
  • FYP Mike Lowell at the plate.

    SF June 8, 2006, 8:51 pm
  • Someone warming, I assume?

    SF June 8, 2006, 8:51 pm
  • HBP, loaded, no outs. We must score here!!

    Paul SF June 8, 2006, 8:52 pm
  • Wright’s still awful..after all these years.

    Nick-YF June 8, 2006, 8:52 pm
  • The Proctor monster is coming in. Torre needs to come out and tell Lowell to tuck in his shirt!

    walein June 8, 2006, 8:52 pm
  • That finishes Wright’s night. He didn’t do too bad, although I wonder how well he would have done if we hadn’t given him the break in the first.

    Paul SF June 8, 2006, 8:53 pm
  • Now Youkilis has a chance to show his value in the same situation as Tek in the 1st inning (except there are no outs instead of one).

    Hudson June 8, 2006, 8:53 pm
  • Wright pitched poorly. A 2 WHIP is awful.

    Nick-YF June 8, 2006, 8:54 pm
  • SF: I think it’s a bit naive to think that any of those guys is capable of doing the kind of work that’s needed, though, yeah, it would be nice if they would ask the questions. The guys who deal with MLB daily, columnists and beat guys, their relationship with the players/league is too symbiotic to expect them to be able to be succesful. That’s why the Chronicle out Wada and Williams on the BALCO case. Those guys were experienced investigative journalists, not sports reporters.

    YF June 8, 2006, 8:54 pm
  • Wright went from having a potentially very good line to a mediocre/very poor line in short time.

    SF June 8, 2006, 8:55 pm
  • Wow, what are the chances we get such a useful scenario to experiment with our ideas of how this lineup should be constructed?

    Paul SF June 8, 2006, 8:55 pm
  • I predict that Youks Ks and Gonzo hits a grand slam. (Why not?)

    Hudson June 8, 2006, 8:56 pm
  • Late call, and a poor call, on the low pitch from the home plate ump…

    Paul SF June 8, 2006, 8:56 pm
  • Youk! Sac fly to tie the game!

    Paul SF June 8, 2006, 8:57 pm
  • Suprised that the Sox decided to test Damon’s arm.

    walein June 8, 2006, 8:57 pm
  • I agree with you, YF – it is naive to think that. But those are the guys who are also responsible, and not Kay. That’s what I was getting at. That doesn’t mean I expect them (which would be naive, you are right) to do it all.

    SF June 8, 2006, 8:57 pm
  • Well, I was wrong. Kevin knocks in one on a sac fly. Youks > Tek.

    Hudson June 8, 2006, 8:57 pm
  • Yeah, with the way he made that *great* thow to nail Manny the other day…

    Paul SF June 8, 2006, 8:58 pm
  • Walein… You’re being facetious, right?

    Hudson June 8, 2006, 8:58 pm
  • BB looking lost on that first pitch.

    SF June 8, 2006, 8:58 pm
  • I think W was kidding…

    SF June 8, 2006, 8:59 pm
  • since I’m walein’s brother I feel I should let you know that he wasn’t joking. He’s that stupid.

    Nick-YF June 8, 2006, 8:59 pm
  • ha.

    SF June 8, 2006, 9:00 pm
  • I’m really just parroting Slate’s column hgere , but that’s because it mirrored a lot of my already-formed opinions. The beat writers may be unable to do their daily jobs while investigating for steroids, but they should be concerned enough to get sports editors and metro editors and editors in chief to assign investigative reporters to these stories. ESPN is lkarge enough — and thus invincible enough — to have reporters dig for this stuff. Yet there’s a collective shrug from the sports-journalism establishment. Which is sad to me…

    Paul SF June 8, 2006, 9:00 pm
  • WHERE WAS THAT???????

    walein June 8, 2006, 9:01 pm
  • I am going to kill whoever is running the MLBTV feed.
    I have been looking at the netting from the left field wall for the last 10+ minutes
    hello…anyone in the control room?
    push the button labled
    “home plate”
    it’s like listening to radio…but they think you cna see what they are describing.

    TheTree1918 June 8, 2006, 9:01 pm
  • No, I understand. I didn’t mean to imply YOU were naive. Just this general idea that any of these familiar faces is just going to be able to switch gears and all of a sudden become a Murrow.
    And as for Giambi, it’s an interesting problem. We basically know the guy cheated in the past, and have every right to suspect him now. But the “he gained so much weight” thing to me seems evidence of nothing. Yeah he’s bigger, but he’s also in the process of recovering forom a couple of illnesses that forced him to lose weight (and who knows what role the roids played in those ailments). Plus, if you read the Lohud blog, you’d know the guy wears like 13 layers of clothing under his uni. So he might not be as big as we thing. Anyway. Whatever.

    YF June 8, 2006, 9:01 pm
  • 10 bucks Tito says something like “that’s why we put Youks down there, we want to get some more production out of the bottom of the lineup. It’s depth we’re after”, without any sense of how he’s actually screwing it up.

    SF June 8, 2006, 9:01 pm
  • GONZO!

    airk June 8, 2006, 9:02 pm
  • Now, that was a strikeout. McClelland wants hsis own baseball card.

    walein June 8, 2006, 9:02 pm
  • Yeah AGON!!!

    Paul SF June 8, 2006, 9:02 pm
  • Venezuela’s Hero! BB with the big “double” past A-Rod.

    SF June 8, 2006, 9:02 pm
  • Maybe Tito should hit BB 3rd.

    YF June 8, 2006, 9:02 pm
  • purple lips strikes again

    crabby June 8, 2006, 9:03 pm
  • E-Rod… Unjustly, it seems.

    Paul SF June 8, 2006, 9:03 pm
  • Maybe Tito should hit BB 3rd.
    Check those lineups tomorrow, YF…

    SF June 8, 2006, 9:04 pm
  • I have to agree with Joe about this error call on A Rod. That’s a hit.

    walein June 8, 2006, 9:04 pm
  • Heckuvan 8-pitch AB by Gonzo, knocking in a run on an error by Acceleratedbathead-Rod.
    He seems to be coming around at the plate (relatively speaking).

    Hudson June 8, 2006, 9:04 pm
  • That was bad baseball. BAD COCO!!!!

    SF June 8, 2006, 9:04 pm
  • Poor hitting from Coco. Swings at 3-0 and hits a grounder right at the drawn-in infield…

    Paul SF June 8, 2006, 9:04 pm
  • EAR MUFFS!

    YF June 8, 2006, 9:05 pm
  • Francona putting the greenlight with 3-0…well played Francona, well played.

    walein June 8, 2006, 9:05 pm
  • See, the bad amongst the good. The Sox take a lead, but there’s no good reason they shouldn’t have padding. Just poor fundamentals.

    SF June 8, 2006, 9:05 pm
  • And the sac fly turns into the third out. Coco makes an unsettling number of poor decisions like that. Maybe it just seems that way…

    Paul SF June 8, 2006, 9:05 pm
  • SF, you think that was Coco’s call?

    walein June 8, 2006, 9:06 pm
  • The Sox should be up 6-3 by now, minimum.

    Hudson June 8, 2006, 9:06 pm
  • Anybody out there want to tout Tito’s tactical brilliance? Anyone? Bueller?

    SF June 8, 2006, 9:06 pm
  • Gonz shouldn’t have even gotten to swing the bat again, especially after he watched strike three down the inside of the plate.

    walein June 8, 2006, 9:07 pm
  • From what I gathered among all the press about MLor’s 3-0 double against Johnson earlier this year is that all hitters have the green light whenever they feel like it. Which is fine — if your hitter is going to, you know, not be stupid about it.

    Paul SF June 8, 2006, 9:07 pm
  • C’mon top of the line-up!

    walein June 8, 2006, 9:08 pm
  • I feel a big hit from Giambi this inning.

    walein June 8, 2006, 9:08 pm
  • I think that was Terry’s call, to give him the green light. He’s done that a few times, with good results. I put that one very lightly on Tito, mostly on Coco – he’s got to do better if he’s intent on swinging 3-0. The problem I have with Francona is not the green light, but perhaps giving a guy who’s struggling quite seriously that green light. And batting him leadoff. ;-)

    SF June 8, 2006, 9:08 pm
  • Quick 1st out from Schilling. I’d like to see Curt bear down here and get through the inning clean. It’s always a happier time for the bats when the Yanks’ bullpen is on the mound…

    Paul SF June 8, 2006, 9:08 pm
  • Maybe that was Coco cursing like the proverbial drunken sailor to avoid getting a talking to from the skip–shows he knows he screwed up, avoids the nasty dugout moment.

    YF June 8, 2006, 9:08 pm
  • Uh oh. 0-2 count. Curt’s nemesis.

    SF June 8, 2006, 9:10 pm
  • 3 quick outs for Curt.

    Hudson June 8, 2006, 9:10 pm
  • I think Terry liberally applies the green light, gives hitters the freedom to judge for themselves the situation they’re in. Generally, I agree with that philosophy. But yeah, Coco’s asking to be closely signed out there.
    K!! Schilling with the quick inning — much needed!

    Paul SF June 8, 2006, 9:11 pm
  • Schilling still looking good, when not giving up home runs

    airk June 8, 2006, 9:11 pm
  • I didn’t know you could swing at a pitch that high over your head. Well done Jason.

    walein June 8, 2006, 9:11 pm
  • Damn, that was a fast inning. Can we have our runners back from the last one?

    Hudson June 8, 2006, 9:11 pm
  • He was thinking about that Grimsley affidavit…

    Paul SF June 8, 2006, 9:11 pm
  • I’m sure both Curt and Jason were thinking about that Grimsley affidavit.

    walein June 8, 2006, 9:12 pm
  • Right, Paul. I don’t have a real issue with the 3-0 green light, except in certain situations (pitcher struggling, men on base, baserunners needed, absolutely terrible hitter who’d be better off walking up, etc.). That’s one thing Francona has done quite well, which is to relax the restrictions on swinging 3-0. In that situation, it’s really Crisp’s responsibility to be very selective and try to do something good with the pitch in his zone.

    SF June 8, 2006, 9:13 pm
  • 80 pitches through 6 for Schill. It would be awfully nice if he could get this game straight into Papelbon’s hands. Tito should consider using Paps for 4-5 outs if necessary and if the one-run lead holds.

    Hudson June 8, 2006, 9:13 pm
  • I’m not really sure what that means, walein?

    Paul SF June 8, 2006, 9:13 pm
  • Question: did Grimsley and Damon play on KC together?

    SF June 8, 2006, 9:14 pm
  • something is missing from the game….
    something dumb
    somehting pointless
    something that I just can’t place my finger on …

    TheTree1918 June 8, 2006, 9:15 pm
  • C’mon, B.P.

    Hudson June 8, 2006, 9:15 pm
  • Absolutely agree, Hudson…
    Double, Papi!

    Paul SF June 8, 2006, 9:15 pm
  • That when you look at the strength at the backend of Schilling’s career, he’s suspect.

    walein June 8, 2006, 9:15 pm
  • SF: I don’t belive so, but I don’t really follow the royals enough…and they are my local team lol

    TheTree1918 June 8, 2006, 9:15 pm
  • O R T I Z I T R O

    Hudson June 8, 2006, 9:16 pm
  • IBB to Manny, for Nixon.
    If I’m a Yankee fan, I’m not sure I like this move. It’s burned teams before this year…

    Paul SF June 8, 2006, 9:16 pm
  • Walein: everyone is suspect. That’s the problem.

    SF June 8, 2006, 9:17 pm
  • Proctor IBBs Manny. Make ’em pay, Trot.

    Hudson June 8, 2006, 9:17 pm
  • I guarantee if they IBB Nixon Tek hits into a triple play.

    SF June 8, 2006, 9:17 pm
  • I didn’t type fast enough, but there was a bunt situation. Late innings, double play threat on deck, 1 run lead, none out.

    SF June 8, 2006, 9:18 pm
  • Harmless popup leaves the DP intact for Tek…
    Who knows, walein, you might be right, but I’d guess Schilling’s been strong at the end of his career because he was injured for a lot of the early part of his career, thus saving his arm strength…

    Paul SF June 8, 2006, 9:19 pm
  • 1 gone.
    Time for Tek to, um, cowboy up or whatever.

    Hudson June 8, 2006, 9:19 pm
  • He also started as a relief pitcher.

    SF June 8, 2006, 9:19 pm
  • TEK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Paul SF June 8, 2006, 9:20 pm
  • Those steroids sure helped Schill in ’05.
    /snark

    Hudson June 8, 2006, 9:20 pm
  • TAKE THAT, ASSHOLE RED SOX FANS WITH NO FAI–
    Er, Yay Tek!!!

    SF June 8, 2006, 9:20 pm
  • TEK!

    airk June 8, 2006, 9:20 pm
  • It’s about time, Tek!

    crabby June 8, 2006, 9:20 pm
  • SF: How, exactly, do you like your crow prepared?

    YF June 8, 2006, 9:20 pm
  • 7-3 Sox. Finally, a lead in keeping with the Sox’s opportunities tonight.

    Hudson June 8, 2006, 9:20 pm
  • He cowboyed up.

    Hudson June 8, 2006, 9:21 pm
  • See three comments above, YF.
    On the other hand, we could go into the “small sample size” discussion again, and I think you’d know I have a case.

    SF June 8, 2006, 9:21 pm
  • I love Tek. It’s easy to forget that he means a lot to this team even if he never hits above .250 again. And I hope with all my heart he gets out of this slump and starts doing that with the consistency he used to…
    That said, I’m afraid this HR will merely reinforce Francona’s poor lineup, one that has cost and will continue to cost this team runs and games…

    Paul SF June 8, 2006, 9:22 pm
  • I think it would be funny if Tek took a curtain call.

    SF June 8, 2006, 9:23 pm
  • Yankee bullpen = not on steroids.

    Paul SF June 8, 2006, 9:23 pm
  • What an absolute joke – no error on Purple lips.

    crabby June 8, 2006, 9:23 pm
  • I agree SF. That was a low blow on my part. I find it annoying that Giambi is still suspect. It would seem, since the feds are still apparently investigating everyone who was involved with the BLACO, and sicne Giambi most likely had a tumor and joint decrepitude possibly (probably?) linked to his steroid use, silly that he would risk it.

    walein June 8, 2006, 9:24 pm
  • Crabby, that’s the right call. That was a line shot, and it would have been an incredible play if he had gloved it, let alone managed to record any outs once he got it.

    Paul SF June 8, 2006, 9:25 pm
  • That when you look at the strength at the backend of Schilling’s career, he’s suspect.

    Wha?
    Between 1990 and 2004, Schilling had only 2 seasons with an ERA over 4.00 . It doesnt get much more consistent than that.
    http://www.baseballreference.com/s/schilcu01.shtml

    airk June 8, 2006, 9:26 pm
  • Walein: Grimsley KNEW the Feds were watching him. He KNEW they knew he was involved. He STILL had HGH delivered to his house. These guys are not that bright, and are trying to make their living and get out. Just because it seems collossally stupid to US for a guy to continue to use does not make it unlikely that he would use again. And I don’t want this comment to be mistaken for an accusation that Giambi is using. I only mean to point out that normal logic doesn’t apply.

    SF June 8, 2006, 9:26 pm
  • Whatcha say, folks? Papelbon gotta pitch tonight, no matter what? It’s been a looong time since he got any work…

    Paul SF June 8, 2006, 9:27 pm
  • Hopefully Terry will bring in Riske and leave him in for 6 Yankee runs.

    walein June 8, 2006, 9:27 pm
  • Maybe my hate of Purple Lips shines through too many times but I feel “the best player in the game” should make those kinds of plays.

    crabby June 8, 2006, 9:27 pm
  • Uh-Oh. Aaron Small. There’s your white flag!

    YF June 8, 2006, 9:28 pm
  • OK, that’s war. It’s GO TIME, baby!!!
    ;-)

    SF June 8, 2006, 9:29 pm
  • And HGH is different from steroids. I’m no expert, but I’d guess HGH at least is advertised as having fewer health effects than steroids. Might be a swaying factor for someone such as Giambi…

    Paul SF June 8, 2006, 9:29 pm
  • right on the left elbow…..owwww

    TheTree1918 June 8, 2006, 9:29 pm
  • That looked REALLY painful. They should really pay these guys decent money, dontcha think?

    YF June 8, 2006, 9:29 pm
  • Youkilis ain’t no body-armor wearing pansy ass!

    airk June 8, 2006, 9:30 pm
  • This is true. But the guys that tend to be that stupid are also the guys that talk to the most microphones, get up infront of congress (exclamation point).
    It’s a personality disorder more than actual low IQ.

    walein June 8, 2006, 9:30 pm
  • Time for schilling o send a message ;)
    this series could use a good bench clearing brawl…

    TheTree1918 June 8, 2006, 9:30 pm
  • Youk = Tough Jew.

    YF June 8, 2006, 9:31 pm
  • Nice play by Damon. Hate that guy.

    Paul SF June 8, 2006, 9:32 pm
  • nice grab by el Juanny

    airk June 8, 2006, 9:32 pm
  • YES shows the “slightly above average” grab by JD 27 times from 49 different angles.

    SF June 8, 2006, 9:33 pm
  • Another late, poor call on a low pitch… Don’t like McClellan…

    Paul SF June 8, 2006, 9:33 pm
  • I haven’t watched YES in years, but TBS to me is the epitome in crappy homerism…

    Paul SF June 8, 2006, 9:33 pm
  • “Tough Jew”
    Are there any other kinds?!

    SF June 8, 2006, 9:33 pm
  • Wow, horrible play on the wild pitch from Stinnett…

    Paul SF June 8, 2006, 9:34 pm
  • Yay, Coco!

    SF June 8, 2006, 9:35 pm
  • Coco! Two-run single!!

    Paul SF June 8, 2006, 9:35 pm
  • do it COCO~

    TheTree1918 June 8, 2006, 9:35 pm
  • Nick-YF= “passive-aggressive half-Jew”

    Nick-YF June 8, 2006, 9:35 pm
  • 9-3
    i culd be happy if this games ended 14-3 ;)

    TheTree1918 June 8, 2006, 9:35 pm
  • I have decided that the only exclamation I will offer when the Sox score is a simple “Yay [player’s name here]”. Seems more classy, less inflammatory.

    SF June 8, 2006, 9:36 pm
  • Loretta apparently is a very streaky hitter…

    Paul SF June 8, 2006, 9:37 pm
  • Do you think Torre’s getting the message that Erickson isn’t good?

    Nick-YF June 8, 2006, 9:38 pm
  • Are they going to have Cotton Eye Joe beat up a stuffed effigy of Al-Zarqawi during the 7th inning stretch?

    SF June 8, 2006, 9:39 pm
  • LOL

    airk June 8, 2006, 9:40 pm
  • that’s it! We have a winner! SF wins the Line-of-the-Night award!

    Nick-YF June 8, 2006, 9:40 pm
  • Conversation on this thread has really died down since the game turned a couple innings ago… Where’d all the YFs go??

    Paul SF June 8, 2006, 9:42 pm
  • Philip Seymour Hoffman in the house — Rochester NY represent!

    airk June 8, 2006, 9:42 pm
  • haha there is enough sox fans in the crowd that you cna hear the “YOUUUUUUUUUUUUk” chant as he catches the ball…the announcers on YES thought the crowd was booing Arod lol

    TheTree1918 June 8, 2006, 9:43 pm
  • Nice hop there…

    Paul SF June 8, 2006, 9:44 pm
  • canoe looks back at schilling after a little up and in….

    TheTree1918 June 8, 2006, 9:45 pm
  • I’m going to say something inflammatory and then leave, but I don’t think Phillip Seymour Hoffman deserved the Oscar. I think anybody could do a good job playing Capote. It’s like doing any crazy eccentric person.
    There, I said it.

    Nick-YF June 8, 2006, 9:46 pm
  • Mighta been a lil payback for the two HBP earlier…

    Paul SF June 8, 2006, 9:46 pm
  • this seems like a “coming back down to earth” game for the yankees

    airk June 8, 2006, 9:46 pm
  • lol, Nick. Especially since that’s all PSH plays: Crazy people. Name me one role where PSH has played a well-adjusted person. I dare you…

    Paul SF June 8, 2006, 9:47 pm
  • I havent seen Capote yet, Nick, but i’ve never seen PSH give a bad performance.

    airk June 8, 2006, 9:47 pm
  • PSH is very normal and sweet in Magnolia, but overall you’re on-point Paul

    airk June 8, 2006, 9:48 pm
  • Man, Papi… Too much up, not enough out…

    Paul SF June 8, 2006, 9:49 pm
  • Don’t get me wrong. I love PSH. Love the stuff he plays. Think he does a great job. But he’s kind of typecast… (Red Dragon, MI3, Capote)…

    Paul SF June 8, 2006, 9:50 pm
  • Lebowski. Bit part, but PSH is good.

    SF June 8, 2006, 9:53 pm
  • Sox are really not being fooled too much by the NYY bullpen. As much as I hate ours, it seems the Yanks’ situation there is a bit more desperate…

    Paul SF June 8, 2006, 9:55 pm
  • Anyone else want to see Hansen tonight?

    airk June 8, 2006, 9:55 pm
  • G’night, all. I am off to the computerless room.

    SF June 8, 2006, 9:57 pm
  • Man, Tek really is warming up. Another three-hit night for him…
    airk, That’d be fun, seeing Hansen, but I’m worried that Paps is getting rusty from not having pitched ina while…

    Paul SF June 8, 2006, 9:59 pm
  • Apropos of nothing, PSH walked past me 2 weeks ago in the village, while i was sitting having a coffee at joe.
    Meanwhile, Tek now has 3 hits. SF gets the full crow tasting menu.

    YF June 8, 2006, 10:01 pm
  • Tek up to .247

    airk June 8, 2006, 10:02 pm
  • Raise your hand if you’re long sick of ESPN/FIFA’s “and they’ll do what the politicians never could” bullshit world cup ads. maybe they should hold that fucker in iraq. spare us with the girly sports.

    YF June 8, 2006, 10:03 pm
  • I dunno, YF… In defense of myself and SF, Tek has given us little indication that he deserves his position, and I think everyone agrees Youk shouldn’t be eighth in any event… The first inning was a huge squander created directly by this order. Thankfully, it’s worked out since, perhaps because Tek is finally drawing out of his prolonged slump…

    Paul SF June 8, 2006, 10:04 pm
  • um, sorry about the language. getting a little chippy over here.

    YF June 8, 2006, 10:05 pm
  • I do enjoy that Ivory Coast ad. More than anything, though, it speaks to the country’s overobsession with a game. Maybe if they focused on their people as much as their soccer, more than half the country wouldn’t be trying to rebel…

    Paul SF June 8, 2006, 10:05 pm
  • hmm… I admit to being rather inexplicably excited about the World Cup. Don’t know why.

    airk June 8, 2006, 10:06 pm
  • Wow, a quick eighth from Schill! Bring that boy out there for the ninth!

    Paul SF June 8, 2006, 10:06 pm
  • The idea of watching the World Cup always is more exciting than actually watching the World Cup…

    Paul SF June 8, 2006, 10:08 pm
  • Aaron Small! woop!

    airk June 8, 2006, 10:09 pm
  • Overheard in the Yankee dugout:
    “You know, this game isn’t quite ugly enough. Get Small out there!” –Joe Torre

    Paul SF June 8, 2006, 10:10 pm
  • yeah. ivory coast. whatever. i’m not going to be rooting for the african teams because they’re “cute” and “underdogs”; i’m tired of that whole patronizing angle. honestly, all i’d like to see is team usa advance as far as england, so i don’t have to put up with all of my expat brit friends carping about what a “real” sport is. ideally, we get farther than they do, and then all of a sudden the world has to deal with the fact that we’re kicking ass in what is like the 13th most popular sport here. and want i really want is for that jerk iranian president to show up in germany, let fly one of his holocaust denials, and then find himself in a court. but i guess that’s asking a lot.

    YF June 8, 2006, 10:13 pm
  • Ouch. Just got back to the game.
    Airk, I didn’t no PS Hoffman was from Rochester. That’s my home town. Neat.

    attackgerbil June 8, 2006, 10:14 pm
  • Of course, Small actually pitches well here, when it doesn’t count. He’s the ARod of pitchers!

    Paul SF June 8, 2006, 10:14 pm
  • LOL. 2nd place in Line of the Night

    airk June 8, 2006, 10:14 pm
  • lol, YF. It is funny to watch Europe scream when the US does well in a sport we don’t care about (like the World Cup a few turns ago). Good stuff.
    Really, it’s fun to watch Europe scream about anything…

    Paul SF June 8, 2006, 10:15 pm
  • i meant YF’s tangent was 2nd place

    airk June 8, 2006, 10:15 pm
  • Personally, I can think of a few things better than charging the pygmy Iranian with Holocaust denial or hate speech. He was one of the organizers of the Embassy takeover back in 1979.

    Tom sf June 8, 2006, 10:16 pm
  • Wow. Just reading back through the game log and the posts on the thread.
    ungreat scotts.

    attackgerbil June 8, 2006, 10:16 pm
  • Thanks, airk. :-p

    Paul SF June 8, 2006, 10:17 pm
  • Time to put a big hurt on Paps. I smell a bs!

    YF June 8, 2006, 10:18 pm
  • melky walks 10 feet down the line before realizing he didnt get walked.

    airk June 8, 2006, 10:19 pm
  • Was that Melky Cabrera trying to take first on Ball 3?

    Paul SF June 8, 2006, 10:19 pm
  • But now he does walk. Paps ‘fraid of Melks. Obvs.

    YF June 8, 2006, 10:19 pm
  • naturally

    airk June 8, 2006, 10:20 pm
  • Suddenly, Curt’s 3 solo gophers don’t seem so bad. Nice outing, all told.

    Hudson June 8, 2006, 10:21 pm
  • But not afraid of Giambi, who Ks…

    Paul SF June 8, 2006, 10:21 pm
  • We have our best rallies with 2 outs!

    YF June 8, 2006, 10:21 pm
  • HGHiambi goes down whiffing.

    Hudson June 8, 2006, 10:22 pm
  • Now would be a good time for ARod’s 2-run HR… Even with it, Paps’ ERA would be below 1,00…

    Paul SF June 8, 2006, 10:22 pm
  • Acceleratedbathead-Rod fans to end the game.

    Hudson June 8, 2006, 10:23 pm
  • Game ovah!!

    Paul SF June 8, 2006, 10:23 pm
  • Guess not. A-Rod can’t come through with the 7-run homer to win it in the 9th. How unclutch can you be. Headlines tomorrow gonna be brutal.

    YF June 8, 2006, 10:23 pm
  • J.P.’s ERA sinks to .031. Incredible. One bad inning all year.

    Hudson June 8, 2006, 10:24 pm
  • Thanks for Nuthin, A-Rod!

    airk June 8, 2006, 10:24 pm
  • lol, I don’t doubt that in any case. That’s what’s fun about the NY tabs. Even though the Yanks won the series and retook first, they’re gonna be all over somebody or other…

    Paul SF June 8, 2006, 10:24 pm
  • Hey. When you’ve got a $200 million contract, you’ve gotta be able to do things others can’t. In that situation he’s gotta bring home AT LEAST 5 guys.

    YF June 8, 2006, 10:27 pm
  • Five guys? Please. As reigning MVP? If he can’t tie the game there, he should give the trophy back.
    Well Ok, I still think he should give the trophy back, but whatever…

    Paul SF June 8, 2006, 10:28 pm
  • Brutal

    walein June 8, 2006, 10:29 pm
  • No more Yanks-Sox for more than two months! Played to a stalemate as yet. And to think, the next time we meet, it shall be for five times in a row, the majority of our remaining duels. God, that’ll be stressful if the two teams are close in the standings.

    Devine June 9, 2006, 1:16 am

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