Fish and Guests: Rays-Yanks Gamer XII

I don’t remember the last time I watched as much baseball in one day as yesterday. Stack yesterday’s trouncing of the fish with the marathon the night before and another game in the middle, it’s almost exhausting to take in. But what do you know, the guys are already back at it as the Yankees need to catch a plane for a game in KC tomorrow; imagine how they must feel. Shields vs. Pettitte. Comment away.

Tampa Bay
A. Iwamura 3b .281
B. Harris ss .301
B.J. Upton cf .341
C. Pena 1b .287
D. Young rf .291
T. Wigginton dh .280
J. Gomes lf .279
D. Navarro c .185
J. Wilson 2b .305

NY Yankees
M. Cabrera cf .280
D. Jeter ss .332
B. Abreu rf .268
A. Rodriguez 3b .311
H. Matsui lf .280
J. Posada c .330
R. Cano 2b .285
A. Phillips 1b .312
S. Duncan dh .250

31 comments… add one
  • I love baseball.

    Anna Maria Horseford July 22, 2007, 1:44 pm
  • No sox thread?
    One post on this thread?

    z118 July 22, 2007, 2:11 pm
  • I give the Rays about a 1/4055422245 chance in winning this game.

    SF July 22, 2007, 2:13 pm
  • Sox thread now up. Sorry about the tardiness.

    SF July 22, 2007, 2:13 pm
  • not much to say about these last two games, except talk about a bell curve wrecker.

    attackgerbil July 22, 2007, 3:26 pm
  • These games will probably push the Yanks’ pythag. record close to even with the Sox, showing at least one small flaw in the pythag. record stat.

    SF July 22, 2007, 3:32 pm
  • Shelley hits his second homer of the game. An E by Gomes puts Cairo on second; he scores on a GRD by Damon, then a homer by ARod. Yanks now up 18-3, and there’s only one out in the sixth.

    attackgerbil July 22, 2007, 3:35 pm
  • With his homer in the sixth, Duncan passed Damon for season homers as a DH.

    attackgerbil July 22, 2007, 3:54 pm
  • I can’t wait for the “Shelley Duncan is the real deal, he’s the next [insert name of two week wonder who never became anything for the Yankees but who got twelve overeffusive curtain calls after ten-run lead homers here] cries.

    SF July 22, 2007, 3:56 pm
  • I understand what you are saying, SF.

    attackgerbil July 22, 2007, 4:06 pm
  • What if Shelly Duncan becomes our David Ortiz? I am not saying he will, but what is wrong with a little speculation?

    Patti July 22, 2007, 4:38 pm
  • what if shelly duncan becomes the shelly duncan he’s always been (6 seasons of .251 avg)? or what if he becomes sandy duncan? or…

    sf rod July 22, 2007, 5:13 pm
  • Agreed, there’s not really much wrong with harmless speculation of any sort. There’s also “what if for now no one worries about what he eventually becomes and let an until-now-career-minor-leaguer enjoy his rather auspicious debut, without worrying about how his career pans out?” I realize I opened the door with the Damon comparison, so I’ll take the blame.

    attackgerbil July 22, 2007, 5:19 pm
  • Just saw some of the Yankees’ celebrations today during the 21-4 blowout on replay. Really professional, classy. Or not.
    “Act like you’ve been there before” comes to mind.

    SF July 22, 2007, 7:21 pm
  • > “Act like you’ve been there before” comes to mind.
    Well, to be fair, it was a long time since yesterday.

    attackgerbil July 22, 2007, 10:10 pm
  • I’ll be happy if he gives us a Shane Spencer lightning in a bottle.

    Lar July 22, 2007, 11:52 pm
  • Wow. I should go away for the weekend more often.

    Anonymous July 23, 2007, 12:45 am
  • ^
    And, SF, don’t act like you’re not guilty of overhyping Sox players now and again. Whatever happened to Wily Mo Pena, I ask you? Or, heh, Joel Pineiro?
    On that note, just heard that Pineiro’s been DFA’d for Lester. One of the larger wastes of $4 million on the season.

    AndrewYF July 23, 2007, 12:48 am
  • Meh. Duncan’s sort of a nice story, I guess. Not a chance in hell he’s ever anything more then a bench player, but he might have a hot week or two in him…along with the rest of the team, as the Royals and O’s aren’t, umm….good at pitching…
    $4MM is a funny number, since it also happens to be Kei Igawa’s annual salary through 2011 (not including the posting fee) Somehow that seems a little worse then a high-risk high-reward one-year deal that didn’t work out. ;-)

    desturbd1 July 23, 2007, 2:16 am
  • Look, if we want to argue about wastes of salary, then I can’t believe we’re talking about Pineiro and Kei Igawa.
    Matt Clement: 2007 Salary: 9.5M
    Carl Pavano: 2007 Salary: 10M + 2008 Salary: 11M + 2009 Buyout: 1.95M

    QuoSF July 23, 2007, 8:49 am
  • Ah, yes, Andrew, I was all over that Pineiro bandwagon. Yep, that was me. I might have to put up a “how to search the archives before making blanket statements that are basically fictional” post.
    Sooth, here:
    barely contained unenthusiasm, here:

    SF July 23, 2007, 9:40 am
  • My mistake, SF. Mistook you for Paul.
    You did predict a July DFA. Impressive.

    AndrewYF July 23, 2007, 10:47 am
  • In fact, Andrew, I was probably the most optimistic on Pineiro, and I basically said, “Well, maybe he’ll work out.” Not sure why you brought him up in an attempt to make your point. Pena is a bit different; I at least was pretty excited about him.

    Paul SF July 23, 2007, 10:50 am
  • Steve was the most optimistic on Pineiro. At one point saying something to the effect that he wouldn’t be surprised if Pineiro ended up with a 2.90 ERA.
    Hey, it was a worthwhile gamble in my view. Not cheap exactly, but he had upside. The Sox just couldn’t turn him around. I’m sure another team will try (maybe the Yanks?).

    Nick-YF July 23, 2007, 11:01 am
  • No prob, Andrew.
    As for Pena, I was on the record as understanding (and approving, I suppose) why the Sox mad that trade. It was a bad trade. But I certainly didn’t tout Wily Mo that heavily, in fact I acknowledged that I knew very little about him. In retrospect, I still understand why the Sox made the deal, even though WMP has turned out to be quite the paperweight.

    SF July 23, 2007, 11:17 am
  • The Wily Mo trade isn’t a bad one until we find out what the Sox can get in return for him. Likely it will be a bad trade when all is said and done, but there are consequences still unknown.
    That is my Rumsfieldian analysis.

    Nick-YF July 23, 2007, 11:20 am
  • The Wily Mo trade isn’t a bad one until we find out what the Sox can get in return for him.
    Maybe, Nick. But if you consider what the Sox have gotten out of Pena production-wise versus what they might have gotten out of another player in his stead (and considering the utility of a guy like Arroyo) I don’t think that the trade, to date, has been very good. Like you say, there are still factors that might mitigate the badness of the deal, but at the moment it’s got plenty of badness. The sentiment (acquiring a young, potential slugger in return for what at the time was an exraneous pitcher) was reasonable and defensible, but the ultimate result has been disappointing.
    For me, I wonder why the Sox felt Wily Mo would be able to develop in their organization without devoted playing time; this was something that I certainly wasn’t critical enough of at the time of the trade. Wily Mo is a player who, it seems, needs a lot of action and/or tutelage, and the Sox are certainly not the type of organization that can afford to have a player learn on the job, the stakes in the AL East are too high. In that way, Pena wasn’t/isn’t a great fit, and I certainly didn’t realize this at the time of the deal.

    SF July 23, 2007, 11:49 am
  • Ahh the joy of having roommates.
    I’ve had plenty of
    roommate referral. From living with a stripper, to living with an alcoholic and a pot head, to living with another alcoholic and a coworker. For instance, the other day I came home to find the sliding door cracked open, beer cans all over the kitchen counter, and one of the chairs flipped upside down, leaning against the couch. It was like the Hulk had come through and had a party.
    So I wanna know, what stories do you have of past and present roommates?
    tl;dr HULK SMASH!

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