Guilt by Association?

I am not sure why Gordon Edes spends this entire article tying David Ortiz to several of the most suspicious characters of the last decade+, and I am not certain he means anything by it, but you’d think that the Sox scribe would be a little more aware of the idea that clutchness is somewhat based on luck and a little more sensitive to the overall context of his article, particularly considering the recent milestone reached by a certain someone out in San Francisco.  Brady Anderson, LuGo, Bonds, McGwire, Sosa, Ortiz.  This is the stream of names that erupt from Edes’ keyboard. Is one of these kids not like the other? Is Gordo making a passive attempt to raise our suspicions about Tizzle?  Why doesn’t Edes raise the possibility that luck combined with injury combined with adjustments at the plate have allowed Ortiz to thrive at the plate in general even as his power has diminished?

It’s a curious piece, in many ways.

14 comments… add one
  • SF, unfortunately in the time will live everytime a player who hits X amount of HR’s either starts to get nagging injuries or falls off pace, the talk will arise. It really is a shame. No disrespect to Ortiz, but he looks slightly different then Sheff, Giambi (of old) and Barry, I don’t think that body was built by chemicals. (Insert Joke here) You are way off base Gordon.

    Triskaidekaphobia August 10, 2007, 8:50 am
  • I hope we can all agree that A-Rod would fall into the same category as Ortiz as well. These are just great players. To me it seems like Edes didnt have anything better to write about with the sox off for the day.

    Sam-YF August 10, 2007, 9:04 am
  • I wasn’t necessarily accusing Edes of smearing Ortiz, as I am not sure he’s intimating that Ortiz ever used or uses PEDs. It was more of a criticism of the article structurally, as a piece of writing. It’s like Edes didn’t edit his own work or recognize in the process of reviewing the column that it reads as a list of suspected PED users, with Ortiz’ dropped power as a sidebar. Ortiz’ injuries, related to the run of play (a slide headfirst hurting a shoulder, a bum knee hurt while running) are brought up several paragraphs in. I found the column a bit irresponsible in that way, but am I just projecting? Do other people scan the column and take away the same things I do?
    If anything, one could have written an article about how Ortiz has adjusted as a hitter despite his injuries; his BA and OPS are tremendous despite not being able to do some things as he did before, clearly due to physical pain. And, Edes doesn’t come close to understanding the vagaries of “clutchness”.

    SF August 10, 2007, 9:06 am
  • SF, it just seemed like a bunch of filler to me; nothing remotely interesting or astute to sink one’s teeth into.

    DW-sf August 10, 2007, 9:54 am
  • First thought: Horrible headline for an article
    Second thought It reads to me like a piece written by someone who just discovered b-r.
    > It’s like Edes didn’t edit his own work
    A lot of it isn’t his work. My guess is Alan Tieuli is a Sox fan who noodled around b-r one afternoon when he was pissed by the fact the Sox lost a game, probably when Papi had a chance to win it. He dug up the home run data, cited the source, and shot the figures off to Edes along with a few questions he thought Edes might have a take on; Tieuli probably fed him the close/late data as well, since Edes doesn’t offer any insight on the statistic and the definition is ripped straight from the b-r page.
    He can’t say “Elias Sports Bureau” and he can’t say “Globe staff researchers”, but “senior administrator of communications for J.P. Morgan Chase Corporate Challenge Series” sound impressive enough for most readers to think “wow, J.P. Morgan, must be high-powered stuff” and elevate what is relatively accessible information to something that sounds more privileged.
    > I am not sure he’s intimating that Ortiz ever used or uses PEDs
    He may not be, but by name association the words on the page sure do a damn good job of raising the specter. Either Edes knew what he was doing, or he didn’t, and I can’t decide which of those is worse.

    attackgerbil August 10, 2007, 10:07 am
  • >unfortunately in the time will live everytime a player who hits X amount of HR’s either starts to get nagging injuries or falls off pace, the talk will arise.
    Isn’t that basically what Chipper was quoted on yesterday re: A-Rod? Or something similar anyways. I mean, I think those comments are dead on, although they could certainly be applied to several different players right now, including Papi. With everything that’s come out over the last 5-7 years, unfortunately, great players now seem to be guilty until proven innocent in the court of public opinion, especially if they start to tail off, or have a off year even.

    ToddSF August 10, 2007, 12:51 pm
  • It’s a pretty poorly constructed article SF. I understand your annoyance because it seems exactly like Edes is trying to implicate Ortiz but at the same time be able to say “nothing of the sort.” I think the part that hurts the piece and throws it into all kinds of confusion is his use of Pedroia as the new clutch hitter. I realize it’s a boston based article…but seriously, with all of those other names thrown out there, Pedroia doesn’t mean anything.

    walein August 10, 2007, 1:37 pm
  • BTW that wasn’t an attack on Pedroia…it’s similar to people attacking A Rod for not hitting his 500 quick enough while lauding Duncan for being some kind of power hitting machine.

    walein August 10, 2007, 1:38 pm
  • it is a weird article indeed. I put up these Ortiz late and close numbers a few weeks back basically to piss Sox fans off. But it never occurred to me to link this to those stigmatized players.

    Nick-YF August 10, 2007, 2:07 pm
  • a strange article indeed.
    the garbage that often gets printed when there’s no game to cover is ridiculous.

    Yankee Fan In Boston August 10, 2007, 2:39 pm
  • Ugh, what a poorly constructed story. It’s like two pages of intreoduction and then it ends. Not only that, it’s two different stats cobbled together in one column with no connection except they involve the same player.
    He was scrambling on that one, and it looks pretty pathetic to have to say: “This guy sent me these stats, and they’re interesting, so here you go.” That’s a blog entry, Gordon, not a story worth wasting ink on.

    Paul SF August 10, 2007, 3:28 pm
  • not to get too psychoanalytical here, but is Edes unconsciously linking Papi with steroids. It seems carelessness and lack of anything to write led to this article, not any kind of ill-intention.

    Nick-YF August 10, 2007, 3:35 pm
  • I didn’t gt any steroids feel out of the article, myself. Just dumb, pointless chatter because Edes needed an off-day story and overslept or forgot or both…

    Paul SF August 10, 2007, 3:39 pm
  • Everyone who read that article is now dumber than they were before. I want that 5 minutes of my life back and the 11 IQ points it stole from me. Pure drivel.

    LocklandSF August 10, 2007, 4:01 pm

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