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If you’re as tired of hearing and talking about the Yankees as I am — and I am very tired indeed — here’s a snippet of news for you. The Sox hired John Farrell as pitching coach today. No time, and not enough knowledge, to comment much, but it seems like people like him.

Comment on that and anything else Sox-related here.

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  • The guy has a great resume if you read the column, and it’s not like it could possibly get any worse than Al Nipper. The only thing that makes me smile is that this guy has been the backbon in the whole cleveland breakdown (post Manny and Tome) and start-over develpment they’re in now, and happens to be a pitcher himself.
    Again, it can’t be worse than Nipper.

    Brad October 16, 2006, 5:04 pm
  • Gammons on Farrell, from ESPN Insider:
    “I’m not big on coaches changing teams, but Boston’s hiring of John Farrell as pitching coach is one of those moves that could change the franchise. Farrell eventually will be a general manager, somewhere, and the Red Sox’s 2007 season will depend greatly on the development of Josh Beckett, Jonathan Papelbon, Craig Hansen, Manny Delcarmen, Edgar Martinez and, in time, Clay Buchholz, Kris Johnson, Bryce Cox, Justin Masterson and others. In the last eight months, Boston has raided the Cleveland developmental organization for Farrell and farm director Mike Hazen.
    Incidentally, Farrell and Red Sox pitching prospect Daniel Bard, who has been throwing 97-102 mph in the Instructional League, have a long-term relationship. Bard’s uncle, Kevin O’Brien, is the godfather to Farrell’s youngest son.”

    SF October 16, 2006, 5:30 pm
  • 102? Wow.
    Is that legitimate or taken with Yankee Stadim guns? You know, the same ones they give to Fox when RJ starts and it reads 98mph?

    Brad October 16, 2006, 5:40 pm
  • I know this is a little off topic but I thought I would bring up some ideas on who we should look into acquiring this offseason.
    I like Adam Dunn. I know he k’s a lot but he gets on base at a huge clip and slugs the ball very well.
    I wouldn’t mind maybe somehow trying to trade Lowell to SD for Linebrink although I don’t know if we could get that done or not.
    I would also like to check into the availability of Eric Gagne and/or Brad Lidge. Gagne, I know, is a risk but he could also bring big returns. Same with Lidge although, with him, it’s nothing physical.
    Anyway, just some random thoughts. Just thinking that we should look into a power-hitting 1b and big-time reliever. I know we also need a starter but I am just not all that impressed with what’s out there.
    Tough job this off season. Just hope the Sox open the pocket books some more.

    Patrick Murphy October 16, 2006, 5:51 pm
  • …unless farrell can throw 102mph he ain’t gonna make much of a difference…

    dc October 16, 2006, 9:51 pm
  • With guys like Delcarmen, Papelbon, Hansen, Snyder, Beckett all younger than 27 and in many ways still developing their pitches and their minds, dc, how do you figure the pitching coach isn’t gonna make much of a difference?

    Paul SF October 16, 2006, 10:17 pm
  • Gotta agree with Paul, dc. That was simply you trying to undervalue an admittedly small move (though one certainly in a positive direction) with nothing to back yourself up. The Indians farm system is in good shape, and has produced quality everyday players the last several years. By all accounts, Farrell did his job with them well and has a good knowledge of the game overall.
    A guy with a background developing young players/pitchers? For a team that is trying to phase in such players at a rate of 2 or 3 a year? There’s no different in that?

    Quo October 16, 2006, 11:16 pm
  • This could turn out to be a major coup. Or a complete non-factor. Time will tell, I guess.
    I am very encouraged that this guy has lots of experience working with young pitchers, though. There’s no way that’s a bad thing in this case.

    mouse October 16, 2006, 11:55 pm
  • …i’m not as knowledgeable as you guys on how much impact a pitching [or hitting] coach really has…according to quo, i’m undervaluing the move without anything to back up my statement…[harsh, but true]…i didn’t think dave wallace did a bad job with the sox [when he wasn’t ill], and didn’t deserve to be fired [without anything to back it up]…now that was harsh, quo…maybe this new guy will be as good as you say…time will tell…

    dc October 17, 2006, 12:27 am
  • dc, good point about Wallace, but all I’ve heard is that the decision was somewhat mutual due to health concerns with Dave Wallace. He may feel he’s not up to the grind anymore.

    Quo October 17, 2006, 12:43 am
  • …actually he was pissed about getting fired…if i can find the quotes [probably boston globe], i’ll pass them along…

    dc October 17, 2006, 12:47 am
  • In that case then completely agreed. Unless there was something impeding his and Tito’s working relationship (maybe?) then he took the fall for any mistakes Nipper might have made, or the general lack of quality pitching this year.
    As much as I liked Wallace, everything I’ve heard about Farrell, this could still be at least a small step forward.

    Quo October 17, 2006, 12:52 am
  • …here’s the link to the article with Wallace’s reaction to getting fired…
    …and i agree, this new guy may be an upgrade…but, the article does point out the support wallace got from some of the pitchers…

    dc October 17, 2006, 1:03 am

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