Lay Off!

Enough already. Everyone please stop picking on A-Rod before we start feeling sorry for the guy. The Sox really have no beef. He didn’t dis’ them. And they won without him. The slap? Get over it. How many other players have interfered in the past? No one’s calling Reggie “Thighman.” Certainly Trot Nixon, who’s off thanking Jesus every time he knocks a grounder through the middle, is no one to talk. Come to think of it, Trot, snide remarks about another player are not very Christian. Go look in your own mirror.

Yes, A-Rod’s a little Stepford. No, he’s not Derek. Yeah, he’s a bit self absorbed. But let’s just appreciate him for what he is: Part of that great travelling carnival that is the New York Yankees. He’s a freak, but he’s our freak. And all he did last year was switch positions, play brilliant defense, and hit .290 with 36 homers and 100 rbi. We’ll take him.

32 comments… add one
  • Yeah, we’ll lay off Slappy. Suuuuuure. YF is seemingly as thin-skinned as Prima DonnA-Rod.
    (Does YF understand the premise of this site we started?)

    SF February 17, 2005, 9:27 am
  • ARod is “a little self-absorbed” you say?
    The understatement of the century.
    Spin doctors. Gotta love ’em. A little self absorbed my …

    Sam February 17, 2005, 11:40 am
  • //The slap? Get over it.//
    umm….no!
    Grady Little as K sign? Get over it. “1918” and “Who’s Your Daddy” Chants? Get over it. Pedro vs. Zimmer? Get over it.
    just think back to what you would have said to any of those statements, YF.
    it would probably have been something about not being a sore loser.

    beth February 17, 2005, 11:41 am
  • All this bashing of A-Rod is the Sox players’ overcompensation for the guilt they still feel for hanging Manny out to dry last off-season. I remember Mr. Millar on tv talking about how much better A-Rod was than Ramirez, and how he was ready to let Manny go. The Sox and their fans are so transparent.

    Nick February 17, 2005, 12:43 pm
  • Ah, yes, it’s our own little guilt complex. You nailed us! We feel sooooo guilty about winning the Series, I think I might just stop insulting the Yankees, since that’s what you all did once you beat the Sox for the last few decades – you all laid off of us. I remember those days of detente well, lounging around Central Park, Yankees fans coming up as I wept on my blanket in the Sheep Meadow just after Dent hit the home run saying “I am so sorry, you must be feeling it. Can I get you an ice cream?”. Or after Boone, when I couldn’t get cross a Manhattan street in a rainstorm without a kind Yankees fan lending me a hand getting across a puddle, telling me that “when it rains, it pours, but nobody should have to suffer wet socks”. What planet are you guys from, exactly? Lay off?! Are you kidding??!!
    You Yankees fans are amazing. One teeny tiny little, oh, wait, all-time, never-to-be-worsted-in-the-annals-of-all-time historic choke against an arch-rival and you turn into sniveling little whiners, complaining about how we should stop picking on your team and it’s fancypants narcissist cheaters. You’d do the same for us, right!? Of COURSE you would.
    Let’s put it this way: you could search far and wide through Red Sox Nation’s history, and I don’t think you’d ever, ONCE, find a Sox fan asking you guys to “lay off”. It’s part of the rivalry. You guys win, you’d make fun of us (incessantly), and we’d call you stupid arrogant jerks. We’d laugh at your taunts, but we could take it; we’d never ask you to stop. One championship, one offseason, and already YFs can’t take the heat, the needling.
    Beth has it spot on, above. Remember the golden rule, Yanks fans. You had it, and still have it, coming.

    SF February 17, 2005, 1:08 pm
  • “We’d laugh at your taunts, but we could take it; we’d never ask you to stop.”
    Hilarious! Every clause in this statement is a lie. 15 words, 3 lies. You’re the EB White of lies! The Bush admin would be awed!

    Nick February 17, 2005, 1:22 pm
  • YFs can take the barbs. YFs can handle the loss. YFs are simply B-O-R-E-D with the A-Rod-as-Narcissist/Cheat meme.

    YF February 17, 2005, 1:35 pm
  • “Lay off” isn’t indication of being able to “take it”, as you say. Trying to play this post off as nonchalance is disingenuous. Please. We’re not “laying off”, as long as A-Rod et.al keep themselves in the news, or as long as Trot keeps him there, so get used to it. You guys are just WEAK.

    SF February 17, 2005, 1:51 pm
  • Let me get this straight: YF posts the “he shoulda socked him” thread, but it’s NOT ok for us SFs to say anything or post anything regarding the topic. Give me a break, YF.

    SF February 17, 2005, 1:53 pm
  • ! I quoth: “(Does [S]F understand the premise of this site we started?)”
    Humor, anyone? Does that not play in Soxland? We know you folks like horror (ie, Mr. King). You’re the champs now. Lighten up! Spring is nearly upon us!

    YF February 17, 2005, 2:09 pm
  • The wheels spin faster. “Lighten up”? From YOU? In this thread!? Yowzer. Up really is down. Pathetic, YF.
    And A-Rod’s a cheat. Still.

    SF February 17, 2005, 2:11 pm
  • Spare us all your santimonious crap. A-Rod a cheat? Fine. But is SF going to call Renteria a “cheat” the first time he makes a phantom tag at second? Has Trot “I Walk With Jesus” Nixon ever run outside the baseline on a dribbler to first? To call A-Rod a cheater in this of all weeks strains even SFs extremely limited credibility.
    Go back and read the post here with an open mind, and it’s clearly pretty light—”he’s a freak, but he’s our freak.” And “He Shoulda Socked ‘Em” was clearly aimed at the funny bone (we don’t really tawk like dat!).
    But if you want to get serious, here you go: We’vegot Jeter and the Unit and we’re going to totally KICK YOUR ASS this year. End of story.

    YF February 17, 2005, 2:39 pm
  • I think it’s clear whose team were the losers last year.

    SF February 17, 2005, 2:40 pm
  • worst…choke…ever. And A-Fraud’s a whining bitch. I say that in MY life, the situation of the past will reverse course permanantly. I’ll be telling my kids how the Spankees haven’t won in their life, & to appreciate the long winning streak Boston has enjoyed. The arrogance of Yankee fans will not go unpunished. You are tough when you’ve been winning, but actually lose & look out for the diaper truck….

    AJ February 17, 2005, 3:11 pm
  • //Spare us all your santimonious crap. A-Rod a cheat? Fine. But is SF going to call Renteria a “cheat” the first time he makes a phantom tag at second? Has Trot “I Walk With Jesus” Nixon ever run outside the baseline on a dribbler to first? To call A-Rod a cheater in this of all weeks strains even SFs extremely limited credibility. //
    i don’t know whether to be amused or offended that you actually expect us to believe that someone running outside a baseline or applying a close-call tag that slowmotion replays show was phantom is in any way even SIMILAR to someone deliberately and flagrantly slapping the ball out of another player’s glove because THEY were going 2-17 in the last four games and couldn’t get the ball out of the infield for love or money.
    i would LOVE to see what you YFs would say if the shoe was on the other foot. oh, wait. i KNOW what you’d be saying, because you’d been saying it my entire life until now. for once yankee fans have a chance to put all the armchair psychoanalysis they’ve done on “loser” red sox fans to good use. not like they’ll take that opportunity, though–especially not if this off-season is any indication.
    you taunted us for decades, called us sore losers when we complained, and now you’re sitting there expecting us to somehow be sensitive to your feelings? because sox fans and players are tired of hearing a-rod shoot his mouth off?
    and let’s not be bashing a player’s religion, how about it. that shouldn’t even be on the table here.

    beth February 17, 2005, 4:03 pm
  • Phantom tags? Did someone say Chuck Knoblach? SUCK IT UP YANKEE FANS!

    sithkhan February 17, 2005, 4:37 pm
  • Anyone else notice that this site is about 20 Red Sox fans versus 2 Yankee fans? And every SF is spazzing out. Seems to be that once again Sox fans are more emotionally involved in the rivalry (which became a minor rivalry only this past year when the Boston finally managed a series win). It’s insane how crazy they sound, like rabid dog foaming at the mouth. Take a chill pill, you people. YF is making you all hot and bothered, making you look foolish. Good luck this season, and let’s hope for more exciting games.

    Nick February 17, 2005, 8:00 pm
  • As my name indicates, I root for the Brew crew. I visit this site every once in a while to see how the 2 most self-involved fan bases are doing. While Yanks fans are arrogant and can be a bit much, I think this thread demonstrates the truly insufferable nature of Red Sox Nation. Sox fans, have you re-read these statements of yours today. The best that can be said about you is that you’re hypocritical. The worst is that you make no sense.
    From now on, I’m going to act as a disinterested arbiter in these matters because you Easterners need it. Today the victor is YF. Will be checking in soon.

    Brewer Fan February 17, 2005, 8:09 pm
  • Guys, read the posts historically. This site has tended to be dominated by Yanks fans. YF would attest to this as well, my guess is that comments have been roughly 60-40 YF to SF. But this post shows the skin thin of Yankees fans following this season’s reversal of fortune. This is about a YANKEES FAN ASKING US TO LAY OFF PICKING ON A YANKEE!!!! Just think about that! To me, that’s amazing, and it shows just how insecure Yankees fans are, underneath all their bluster.

    SF February 17, 2005, 9:49 pm
  • THANK GOD for “brewer fan.” it’s a good thing he’s around to “act as a disinterested arbiter in these matters” because us city slicker Easterner type folks sure need it!

    beth February 17, 2005, 9:53 pm
  • And we also need someone to continue to prepare Ben Sheets for the big time! ;) (now I REALLY sound like a Yankee fan…)

    SF February 17, 2005, 9:56 pm
  • Knoblauch?

    Spidey February 17, 2005, 11:08 pm
  • The slap wasn’t a sin b/c it was cheating so much as b/c it was so skull-clutchingly lame. That doctored photo of the moment where ARod has I think it was a Kate Spade number hanging off his non-slapping arm pretty much nailed it.

    Spidey February 17, 2005, 11:15 pm
  • Our thank to Nick for the spirited defense, and to Brewers Fan for some much needed objectivity. We welcome your judgement on future posts.

    YF February 17, 2005, 11:28 pm
  • “THANK GOD for “brewer fan.” it’s a good thing he’s around to “act as a disinterested arbiter in these matters” because us city slicker Easterner type folks sure need it!”
    Yes, apparently you do. Beth, you’re lashing out again. Relax. Show some grace in victory. I think it’s been established that you won a championship or something recently. You’re saying crazy things: Everybody knows that there’s nothing “city-slick” about Bostonians.

    Brewers Fan February 17, 2005, 11:37 pm
  • brewers fan, it would help our discussion here greatly if you were to familiarize yourself with the idea of sarcasm.
    what i’m trying to say is, if i’m lashing out and being crazy, you’re being pompous and self-righteous. don’t tell us how to be fans.

    beth February 18, 2005, 12:16 am
  • Thanks for the command but I think I’ll tell you how to be fans. By the way, when you were lashing out earlier at YF, were you in some way telling him how to be a fan?
    Sarcasm? Never heard of it. But I plan to familiarize myself with it. Any clues where to start?

    Brewers Fan February 18, 2005, 12:41 am
  • Well as a very long time Yankee fan, I recall the days when the only real competition came at WS time and our bitterest rivals were the Brookly Dodgers. When they finally beat us in 1955 I think it was after the NYY had won 15+ World Series to the Dodgers 1. So my comment then as a teenager, was when they win another 15 lets talk. I’m still waiting. So for all you wonderful Sox fans, the ante has gone up now. You need 25 more WS victories to make me feel inferior. Or maybe when the Sox win their 39th pennant we can talk. We have had more great teams, more great managers, more Hall of Famers, than the RSN can ever dream of. And every decade in my lifetime (except the unfortunate 1980’s) the Yanks have one at least 3 pennants and a world series. And when the Sox can garner 8 out of 10 pennants in a decade as the Yanks did in the 50s well talk.
    Yes, this year the Sox are the World Series Champs. My hats off to a job well done. I will not complain. The Sox had a great post season. The Yankees did not. Even the Yankees sometimes loose. But not often. So enjoy your victory. Celebrate! For it is likely to be a long time before it is repeated. It is a good thing your son was born this past year – as it may be the only RS WS victory he is alive for.
    But I must also agree with YF, and say lay off A-Rod. What right does Nixon, or Wells, or any other NON-YANKEE think he has the right to say that A-Rod was not a “real” Yankee. When I hear Jeter or Bernie or Posada or Joe Torre saying it, then it will be meaningful. When jerks like Nixon proclaim it they have their head up their ass.

    bronxborn February 18, 2005, 1:52 am
  • Ah, it finally comes out, the “win 25 more to match us and then I’ll respect you” jibe. Yes, that’s sure to dull our elation, bronxborn. Except that at the very least you could get your math right. The Sox haven’t won one world championship. They’ve won 6. Are you saying that the Sox have to win 31 championships to equal the Yankees 26? That doesn’t seem so fair.
    As for requiring other Yankees ragging on A-Rod making it ok for all of us to do the same, take a look at Selena Roberts’ column from yesterday’s New York Times, and you will see dead silence by Jeter in defense of Rodriguez after Nixon’s comments. I think that says quite a lot.
    But, to your credit, I do recall all of you YFs waiting for Johnny Damon to jump on the “bash Pedro” bandwagon last year before taunting him as well, so I guess you have a point.

    SF February 18, 2005, 6:41 am
  • “As for requiring other Yankees ragging on A-Rod making it ok for all of us to do the same, take a look at Selena Roberts’ column from yesterday’s New York Times, and you will see dead silence by Jeter in defense of Rodriguez after Nixon’s comments. I think that says quite a lot.”
    No it doesn’t. SF, you reference Selena Roberts?! That’s just weak. Everyone knows she’s a hack. Please see Bronx Banter’s most recent posts for a complete analysis of Ms. Roberts. I thought you said you lived in NYC. Jeter dealt with the situation as he always deals with potentially controversial situations: He didn’t enter the fray.

    Nick February 18, 2005, 8:04 am
  • He was silent on the A-Rod issue. Roberts says the same thing you say, Nick, she points out how Jeter doesn’t enter the fray, but also understands that not attacking Nixon for his comments isn’t the same as talking about whether A-Rod is a good guy or a good teammate. It’s pretty clear that Jeter is not getting in line to give his next-door neighbor a little PR boost. Playing the good captain doesn’t just involve barking at Nixon (Jeter did the right thing here, without a doubt, not sniping back), but it does involve helping take the heat off a valued teammate and talking him up a little if need be. I think Jeter’s non-talk speaks loudly.

    SF February 18, 2005, 9:35 am
  • SF, I guess we’re going to have to agree to disagree again (the most civil thing that can be said between a Sox and a Yanks fan).
    One thing: You fail to mention that Roberts leads the story by using the always reliable testimony of Jose Canseco. I know we both agree that Canseco’s endorsement or criticism is gold, but perhaps in this case, it’s just the view of Jose Canseco, a narcissistic asshole who is probably jealous of A-Rod’s success. In any case, Ms. Roberts uses him as exhibit A for her weak argument.

    Nick February 18, 2005, 11:32 am

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