Does someone have buyer’s remorse?

[EDIT: Craigslist has already flagged the Lugo ad for removal, so we’re glad we got that screen capture!]

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  • SS is cursed for us, I swear. Wish we had just held on to OCab.

    LocklandSF June 4, 2007, 12:01 pm
  • Ok, that’s funny. I hated the Lugo signing from the start. I never understood why we got rid of OC. Can Pedroia play short??

    jp-sf June 4, 2007, 12:06 pm
  • patience is a virtue. The more troubling performance right now is Drew’s because it seems to be related to health issues, and Drew doesn’t recover well from those.

    Nick-YF June 4, 2007, 12:12 pm
  • Yeesh, Drew…another signing I wasn’t on board with. The most telling thing about Drew is that when he leaves a team, they never seem to notice or care….and the fans are happy. He is a major league p*ssy.

    jp-sf June 4, 2007, 12:16 pm
  • Cabrera’s not been particularly special either. The biggest mistake was giving up on Renteria too soon, I think. Offensively, he finished with numbers right in line with his career averages. Defensively, well, he did suck, so I don’t know…
    In his defense, being thrown at home was just bad luck. He should have been safe if Posada hadn’t happened to land his foot right where Lugo was positioning his slide. On the other hand, a good throw from Jeter would have had him dead to rights.
    Meh. When Okajima and Papelbon give up the tying and winning runs, you just tip your cap and move on. It’s unlikely to happen again.
    What’s annoying is the NY tab cheering over this win as some kind of watershed for the Yankees. Correct me if I’m wrong, but didn’t the Yankees proceed to lose five games in the standings in five days the last time they took two of three from the Sox?

    Paul SF June 4, 2007, 12:16 pm
  • The ad has been flagged for removal. Luckily we got a screen capture for posterity.
    Perhaps someone has already taken him off the Sox’ hands? (We hope!)

    SF June 4, 2007, 12:17 pm
  • No, OC hasn’t been special since he left the Sox, but he seemed to thrive in Boston. He’s a solid defender and a good hitter…so I was ok with him staying.
    Paul – I told my YF fiancee that exact same thing last night while she was gloating. Hey, we gotta take comfort where we can.

    jp-sf June 4, 2007, 12:20 pm
  • Paul, I don’t think Yankee FANS feel that way. So that said, let them say what they’d like.

    John - YF (Trisk) June 4, 2007, 12:26 pm
  • Thank god all of the spammers are making their way to this site now…

    jp-sf June 4, 2007, 12:47 pm
  • Yeah, I hear ya, Trisk (is it OK if I still call you that?). I don’t think it’s indicative of YF feelings at all. But still, it’s an opinion being put out there, and it rankles me a bit.
    Me and a YF friend of mine from work were talking about the game, and I told him I had watched just the first two and last three innings, so I missed the parts where the Red Sox actually scored runs and took the lead, and he said, “Well, you get to see that kind of crap all season long.”

    Paul SF June 4, 2007, 1:32 pm
  • Paul SF – Ok, that was really funny.

    rootbeerfloat June 4, 2007, 1:39 pm
  • Trisk,
    What gives with the new name?

    Regular_Brad. June 4, 2007, 1:42 pm
  • > What’s annoying is the NY tab cheering over this win as some kind of watershed for the Yankees.
    No, it’s not a watershed, but in a season that has been rife with disappointment, underperformance and tragically bad fortune, it is nice to feel good about something, anything for a day.

    attackgerbil June 4, 2007, 1:53 pm
  • Just changing it up Brad.

    John - YF (Trisk) June 4, 2007, 2:09 pm
  • we’ve had just as many second baseman as we’ve had SS over the same amount of years. for some reason, that’s not as big of a deal for people.

    sf rod June 4, 2007, 2:11 pm
  • last year lugo tore things up in june and july.
    (from a .245 in may to a .349 in june and a .313 in july… OPS was obviously improving, too.)
    is he just one of those guys who gets off to a slow start?

    Yankee Fan In Boston June 4, 2007, 2:28 pm
  • 2B isn’t as big of a deal because Sox fans haven’t expected as much out of them. An offseason trend for the Sox lately has been signing ‘good’ shortstops who come into Boston and underplay, i.e. Lugo, Renteria. While 2B has been more of a filler position where we take what we can get and hopefully they play better than expected. (Bellhorn 2004 playoffs, Loretta solid defensively and offensively for all of ’05, and now Pedroia’s big bat coming around).

    NeffSox June 4, 2007, 2:35 pm
  • “Perhaps someone has already taken him off the Sox’ hands? (We hope!”
    Hey SF – even though you dissed his opinion a while back, it looks like Kevin Kennedy was right on the money about Lugo,(“unimpressive) no?
    (just being a di@kbag, as usual :)

    Anonymous June 4, 2007, 5:49 pm
  • ” What’s annoying is the NY tab cheering over this win as some kind of watershed for the Yankees.”
    Maybe not, but maybe so. We’ll see. A victory like that has got to make the team feel better about themselves. The immediate test will be whether or not the offense can put up enough runs to cover desalvo and clippard tonight & tomorrow

    Anonymous June 4, 2007, 5:58 pm
  • Well, to this point Lugo has inspired a lot more ire in me than in many others. Some point to his stolen base record (exemplary), some point to his fielding (John Dewan’s metrics show him to be the fourth best shortstop in all of baseball, I believe), some point to his BA with RISP (very solid), some point to his RBIS (very high from a leadoff man). His OBP and AVG are hideous, though. I don’t have a rational dislike for Lugo. This I freely admit. For some reason watching him play makes me turn beet red. I hate the way he approaches at-bats. I think I am unlucky to have never seen him get a hit, ever. This has to be mere coincidence.
    But there are certainly reasonable ways to show that he’s been valuable to the Red Sox, and their record isn’t independent of his play. I choose to ignore these, since I have a pea-sized brain.
    All this is a long way of saying that I hate Julio Lugo, and that I hope I end up hating him in complete irrationality. I hope Lugo makes me out to look dumb and unfair. So Kevin Kennedy isn’t right (nor are my gut feelings, to be completely honest), yet.

    SF June 4, 2007, 6:02 pm
  • A victory like that has got to make the team feel better about themselves.
    Maybe, but what did the A-Rod homer in the 6 run comeback do for them in April? What did the Friday win do for them (they were AWFUL on Saturday). This “turning point” BS is exactly that: BS. If the Yankees turn it around it will because they start pitching better and they continue to hit to their abilities. This is totally possible.
    I hate these “turning point” ruses. Varitek punching A-Rod in 2004 wasn’t a turning point. Mueller’s home run in that same game wasn’t a turning point. The Red Sox played well continuously, particularly in October in one very compact stretch. This is a false meme, constructed for the sake of tabloid analysis.

    SF June 4, 2007, 6:08 pm
  • (in other words, Andrews, your last line is 100% correct: it comes down to the pitching and hitting, and those don’t remember “turning points” or “watershed moments”, as far as I am concerned)

    SF June 4, 2007, 6:11 pm
  • ” So Kevin Kennedy isn’t right (nor are my gut feelings, to be completely honest), yet”
    Granted, but to this point, pretty spot on IMO…
    “Varitek punching A-Rod in 2004 wasn’t a turning point. Mueller’s home run in that same game wasn’t a turning point.”
    Again you may be right about “turning points”, but it seems that you are discounting the human element of the game. In ’04, the very talented sox were underachieving; shortly after that series, they seemed to gel and began playing great baseball. With musical groups, which are a lot like sports teams, I can tell you that a shared experience can alter the chemistry enough to take the music to a much higher level – same players, same material, but all of a sudden things just click, and the “whole is greater than the sum of the parts” I would bet it’s very similar in sports.
    Probably impossible to quantify, though.

    Anonymous June 4, 2007, 6:29 pm
  • I agree with Andrews and SF, and think any talk of “watershed moments” or “turning points” is a bullshit media fabrication. I’ll defer to Earl Weaver, who made the incredibly insightful, astute admonition, “Momentum? Momentum is the next day’s starting pitcher.”

    attackgerbil June 4, 2007, 6:34 pm
  • The Red Sox played like crap for a week after that A-Rod/Tek fight before starting to win consistently. So I agree with SF that that moment as a snapshot of he season is a fabrication. If there was a 2004 turning point, it was the Nomar trade, in which an unproductive player with negative effect on the clubhouse was replaced by two (maybe three) productive players with positive effects on the clubhouse.
    I was wondering too how all of a sudden A-Rod’s homer last night somehow capped the most thrilling win of the year. I definitely would have pegged the Baltimore game with the grand slam, after which the Yankees continued to tank, but I guess it’s because this was the Red Sox. Strange, though — I thought the Yankees didn’t care about the Red Sox, and it was only those crazy, angry Bostonians who gave a rip about the other side…

    Paul SF June 4, 2007, 7:12 pm
  • Most thrilling because the other one was two months ago, and this one was yesterday? There hasn’t been much excitement lately..

    Lar June 4, 2007, 7:15 pm
  • Why do I feel like I’m being baited?

    attackgerbil June 4, 2007, 7:16 pm
  • The Yankees lost the series in Baltimore.

    attackgerbil June 4, 2007, 7:17 pm
  • The turning point in 2004 was Dave Roberts being called safe. Or Tony Clark’s ball bouncing into the stands. Or…
    You could go on and on. Baseball is a beautiful game because it rarely conforms to such an easy binary narrative like this.

    SF June 4, 2007, 7:43 pm
  • yankees play with no heart, only for the money. 80% of yankees use steriods, and the other 20% never get to play. Red sox play with heart and drive, and aren’t just overpaid, steriod using bums. No one on the redsox uses steriods, and David Ortiz gets his homeruns fairly unlike Arod. Arod has the biggest ego I have ever seen, Big Papi thanks god when he gets a homerun, yet when Arod gets a homerun he runs around the bases like he’s so amazing. Arod deserved that punch from Jason Varitek, and I now like Jason 10 times more cuz he punched Arod. Yankee fans can suck it, cuz sox are soooo much better.
    ~redsox forver

    soxlover4ever September 6, 2007, 5:25 pm

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