Manny Delcarmen is So Good …

Yeah, yeah, Joba Chamberlain is impressive, but can he do this?

Funniest part about the dugout flareup in Chicago between A.J. Pierzynski of the White Sox and batting coach Greg Walker, with Pierzynski complaining that no one had told him that Sox reliever Manny Delcarmen throws a cutter? "I don’t throw a cutter," Delcarmen said yesterday. … ["]Sometimes my pitch moves a little, but I don’t throw a cutter."

Maybe it’s the gyroball!

55 comments… add one
  • What ever happened to the gyroball?

    Andrews August 29, 2007, 11:37 am
  • Well, since it never existed to begin with, maybe that has something to do with it.
    It is odd though, the last time we heard about it was Spring Training if memory serves me.

    LocklandSF August 29, 2007, 12:02 pm
  • Nice post Paul, pretty funny. AJ is a head case. How he was traded for Liriano and Nathan is just mind blowing. You are a ML starting Catcher, you need a scouting report to hit? Awful.

    John - YF (Trisk) August 29, 2007, 12:40 pm
  • From PeteAbe:
    “.347/.407/.545 – that’s what Damon has done since July 20 over 30 games. For some, those are too few games to erase the sins of his first 83 games. But this is a different Damon. For lack of a better word, he’s healthy.
    Damon showed up at spring training out of shape, rushed to prepare himself and then suffered what in hindsight was a predictable series of minor injuries. Sore calf muscles, tweaked hamstrings, balky ankles, etc.
    Damon has a little of the boy who cried wolf in him, talking at length about every minor hurt. So the Yankees kept playing him. Again, in hindsight, he belonged on the disabled list at some point.
    But now he’s healthy, having worked himself into shape and forced Joe Torre to play him. In a way, it’s like the Yankees obtained a different player at the trade deadline.”

    Woosta YF August 29, 2007, 1:52 pm
  • Hey guys…
    Can we get a really early game thread for tonight? Or just Sox/Yanks series general thread? I really don’t want to do any more work today, I’m too fired up for Beckett/Clemens.

    LocklandSF August 29, 2007, 2:04 pm
  • I guess we should be expecting more curtain calls from Johnny then, truest Yankee that he is and always was.

    no sleep til brooklyn SF August 29, 2007, 2:08 pm
  • hahaha.
    Here’s to hoping that Clemens gets absolutely rocked. I don’t mean rocked in a Mussina way, but rocked in a 9 run first inning rocked. Here’s to hoping that he has to look up in the stands, and see his wife listening to the boos kind of rocked. I mean, not being able to look at Torre when he comes to get the ball kind of rocked. The kind of rocked that makes him doubt every decision he’s made this year. The kind of rocked that leaves people laughing at him tomorrow. If ever there was a person that I would love to see being sent into a downward spiral of depression over his lack of ability, it’s him. I hope Ortiz hits one, pumps his fist, points at him, and watches the thing land 315 feet away, which today, is a homerun.

    Brad August 29, 2007, 2:12 pm
  • that delcarmen story is funny. anything that rubs pierzynski the wrong way is commendable.
    one thing about the fist pump uprising… does anyone get upset when manny eye-humps his each and every home run? is that similarly self-congratulatory?
    (personally, i don’t mind fist pumps, but standing and staring at a home run makes me furious… no matter who is doing it.)

    Yankee Fan In Boston August 29, 2007, 2:30 pm
  • When Manny does that, I find it irritating and I’m a Sox fan. Just run your damn bases, do a little Kirk Gibson if you just won the game or something but otherwise get your bum around the bases.

    no sleep til brooklyn SF August 29, 2007, 2:32 pm
  • I agree, YFIB. When a guy makes a great pitch, and pumps his fist, I could care less, and in reality, I get pumped to see it.
    On the staring, I think it’s okay sometimes (a walkoff, or a milestone HR), but if they stand and watch every sinle one, it gets old. I think I have much less problem with them celebrating down the line, but not in the box.

    Brad August 29, 2007, 2:33 pm
  • to be honest, i was really disappointed to see rodriguez standing in the box as his 500th landed in the seats. but i agree, brad, down the line seems less offensive to me as well. even the choreographed heart-crossing/pointing towards the heavens stuff… not really sure why that is…

    Yankee Fan In Boston August 29, 2007, 2:36 pm
  • None of it really bothers me, a lot of players have odd quirks, things they do that maybe other players don’t do, habits, superstitions, etc, I really don’t care, no matter what team they play on.
    I just like some theatrics here and there, I think it makes the game more interesting.
    I have one and only one exception to that, I hated Nomar’s batting glove routine, it just annoyed the piss out of me.

    LocklandSF August 29, 2007, 2:45 pm
  • Man oh man is rsn feeling frisky with their 7 game lead and their ace on the mound.
    We will wake up to one of two vastly different worlds tomorrow:
    1. Sox beat Yanks, snuffing out pretty much completely any remaining hopes they may have had for the ALEast title and placing serious pressure on young Kennedy, next week’s series vs. Seattle, and, really, every one of the dwindling remainder of games this season.
    2. Yanks beat Sox (with their ace on the mound), raising the very real possibility of a series sweep with Boston’s best hitter and Papi-blanket possibly taking a trip to the DL and the Yanks having to feel like they might just have a shot at pulling off something miraculous this year.
    Can’t we all agree that scenario two would make for so much more interesting discussions on this site over the next month? I’m sure we can…

    IronHorse (yf) August 29, 2007, 2:49 pm
  • is manny DL-bound?

    Yankee Fan In Boston August 29, 2007, 2:54 pm
  • Nah. In the latter case, SF and Paul would just take the next month off.

    Woosta YF August 29, 2007, 2:55 pm
  • Man oh man is rsn feeling frisky with their 7 game lead and their ace on the mound.
    Even if he wasn’t on the mound, it’s seven games. With a pretty significant amount of games still left with TB, I can’t help but feel good about it.

    Brad August 29, 2007, 2:56 pm
  • On Manny, Francona was on EEI today, and said that he won’t play tonight but should be okay to go tomorrow. It’s something that he’s been dealing with for awile. Personally, I’d say give him a week off and call up Jacoby in two days.

    Brad August 29, 2007, 2:57 pm
  • dang it… oh well… thanks, brad.

    Yankee Fan In Boston August 29, 2007, 3:01 pm
  • Check that, he said that he’ll be re-evaluated tomorrow, but should be fine.

    Brad August 29, 2007, 3:05 pm
  • same thing. i appreciate your thoroughness.

    Yankee Fan In Boston August 29, 2007, 3:09 pm
  • You bet I’m frisky! Especially since I realized that I *totally* forgot to wear my good-luck-against-the-yanks Papelbon t-shirt yesterday, clearly causing the loss (uh, not that I’m superstitious or anything).
    And I’m with you on the Clemens decimation, Brad. I’m hoping the No. 7 jersey will summon its magic and turn Drew into a Rocket killer a la Trot.

    Jackie (SF) August 29, 2007, 3:18 pm
  • Sorry Jackie, I already offset your lucky #7 jersey with my lucky #62 jersey. In addition I sacrificed a chicken and did a victory dance. Looks like you have some catching up to do!!!

    John - YF (Trisk) August 29, 2007, 3:21 pm
  • I sacrificed Sam Horn, so beat that.

    LocklandSF August 29, 2007, 3:23 pm
  • Hold on I need to find the Yankee equivalent…Ok got it, I just need to locate Kevin Maas and we will be even again! Nice try Lockland!

    John - YF (Trisk) August 29, 2007, 3:24 pm
  • Um, um… I’m wearing a ridiculous pair of madras shorts, which is kinda like pinstripes only in two planes, thus reverse jinxing and confusing the Yankee Gods?

    Jackie (SF) August 29, 2007, 3:28 pm
  • Sorry, that didn’t even make sense.

    Jackie (SF) August 29, 2007, 3:28 pm
  • well… it was confusing… isn’t that what you wanted?

    Yankee Fan In Boston August 29, 2007, 3:31 pm
  • … yes. I think.

    Jackie (SF) August 29, 2007, 3:33 pm
  • i will be wearing my official Aura™ & Mystique™ jock strap.
    top it. go on…

    Yankee Fan In Boston August 29, 2007, 3:34 pm
  • I was wondering from whence the Aura & Mystique emanated. Shoulda known.

    FenSheaParkway August 29, 2007, 3:36 pm
  • Don’t worry Jackie, as long as my dog Shrek aka “Jinxy Dog” is still alive and kicking the Sox always have a shot! Picture this 2004, Yankees have a 3-0 lead, on the day of Game #4 I went down to South Carolina to pick up my new English Bulldog, Shrek. Driving up in the car I had the game on the radio, I remember saying to him “It’s ok buddy, it’s just one game you are their new good luck charm.” Little did I know by “Their” I would wind up meaning the Sox. Every year since at playoff time I threaten to sell him “Jinxy Dog” on Ebay.

    John - YF (Trisk) August 29, 2007, 3:37 pm
  • Anyone else have a Red Sox shrine, with pictures of all 5 starters on the wall with corresponding candles underneath them, which I light whenever that starter is pitching?

    Atheose August 29, 2007, 3:40 pm
  • I like that Baseball is the one area of my life in which it’s perfectly acceptable to indulge superstitions. While I don’t literally believe in the efficacy of any of it, Baseball just wouldn’t seem the same without talking about or considering doing stuff like that.

    FenSheaParkway August 29, 2007, 3:42 pm
  • Trisk, GREAT story.
    After Game 3 of the ALCS I threw away my old Red Sox hat (which I had owned for 8 years) and bought a new one. I hold it personally responsible for the comeback in 2004. It has a place on the shrine.

    Atheose August 29, 2007, 3:42 pm
  • uh oh… giambi will be in the field tonight.

    Yankee Fan In Boston August 29, 2007, 3:43 pm
  • Last night my roommate walked into my room during the game, and Jeter hit his homerun. I yelled at him and told him that he was bad luck, and not to come in my room anymore that night.
    A little while later he walked in to see how the Sox were doing, and I yelled “GET OUT OF MY ROOM! You’re going to jynx them!” He laughed it off and walked away, and maybe 30 seconds later Damon hit his 2-run shot.
    I’m with you, FenShea–baseball brings out the craziness in me that I do not exhibit in other aspects of my life.

    Atheose August 29, 2007, 3:45 pm
  • By the way, when my wife is giving birth someday I’m going to put on the Rally Cap right before the baby comes out. You know, to make sure it’s a boy.

    Atheose August 29, 2007, 3:46 pm
  • here are the lineups from everyone’s favorite, peter abraham:
    Damon LF
    Jeter SS
    Abreu RF
    Rodriguez 3B
    Matsui DH
    Posada C
    Giambi 1B
    Cano 2B
    Cabrera CF
    Clemens RHP (5-5, 4.34)
    Lugo SS
    Pedroia 2B
    Ortiz DH
    Lowell 3B
    Youkilis 1B
    Drew RF
    Varitek C
    Crisp CF
    Hinske LF
    Beckett RHP (16-5, 3.21)

    Yankee Fan In Boston August 29, 2007, 3:47 pm
  • From today’s NY Daily News (not the most reliable, I admit):
    “…the skipper (Francona) left the door open to playing Ramirez today if he arrived and felt well enough. David Ortiz was less optimistic. When he was asked if Ramirez might just need a day or two off, he said ‘hopefuly, but I don’t think so'”.

    IronHorse (yf) August 29, 2007, 3:48 pm
  • I like that Baseball is the one area of my life in which it’s perfectly acceptable to indulge superstitions.
    Yup. I’m a molecular biologist by day, card-carrying superstitious lunatic by night. I think those two things can go together… being a scientist I’m always trying to figure out the rules by which my superstitious objects operate. For example, I had a scarf which worked against every team but the Yankees; my Ted Williams figurine has to be facing the TV while the Sox are batting but not while they’re pitching, etc. (I should note that I do not indulge in this level of crazy for most games in the season… just Yankees games and playoffs. Does that make me more sane?)
    John – that *is* a great story. I wonder if he’d have the opposite effect if you sent him to stay with some Sox fans during the games?

    Jackie (SF) August 29, 2007, 3:49 pm
  • Jackie,
    Your scarf wasn’t named Pedro Martinez by any chance?

    IronHorse (yf) August 29, 2007, 3:51 pm
  • Atheose –
    I don’t currently have a shrine to any team; my room is far too much of a disaster right now for anything that organized. But when I lived in Somerville, my roommates and I made our own little “Hall of Fame”, taking some Globe pull-out posters and hanging them on every walls surrounding our staircase, The bulletin board holding our next set of Sox Plan tickets was the centerpiece. There was no incense involved however.

    FenSheaParkway August 29, 2007, 3:51 pm
  • Your scarf wasn’t named Pedro Martinez by any chance?
    Ouch. But also LOL.

    Jackie (SF) August 29, 2007, 3:52 pm
  • I watch every sinlge Sox Yankees game with my buddy Randy (uni tower whalers for us fantasy guys), and if things aren’t going well, we switch places. When a ball is hit long, we both remove our caps in unison until it lands as to not jinx it from actually making it out, unless of course a yankee hit it.
    We try to limit the conversation, as to avoid any bad karma finding its way to my livingroom. Unless, of course the game is on Fox, then we can’t help it.

    Brad August 29, 2007, 3:54 pm
  • I like the bottom of that RS line-up tonight.
    The Yankees line-up is just plain sick, and we will need it tonight for Beckett.

    IronHorse (yf) August 29, 2007, 3:57 pm
  • It’s a true story unfortunately. LOL.
    As for superstitions, I am out of control as my wife says. I am a coach, as well as a former player and current softball player. There really is no end to the rituals I have. I eat the same thing before every game I coach, chicken and beans. I also put the same number of pieces of gum in my mouth before I get out of my car to get on the bus. I use the same pencil all season to keep the book and make certain it never gets lost. On days I play I always eat half a bagel and throw the other half away, even if I am hungry. I never warm up on the infield and I always tie my left spike first. Yeah I know, I am borderline OCD. Thanks Baseball.

    John - YF (Trisk) August 29, 2007, 3:59 pm
  • the wife and i just bought a condo. i have my own office, which has a shrine-like area. a scooter autographed ball, a mattingly signed ball, a jar of warning track dirt from fenway, some drawings that my wife did for me (the jackie robinson one is especially awesome)…
    i’m forcing her to paint me a picture of ernie lombardi for christmas.

    Yankee Fan In Boston August 29, 2007, 4:01 pm
  • //Unless, of course, the game is on Fox, then we can’t help it.//
    Truer words were never spoken. I can’t remember which game it was this season, but Beckett had pitched 4 innings without giving up a hit. One of the Fox announcers then decided to comment “Beckett is really fooling these hitters, as none of them has a hit yet.” Right on cue, he gives up a home run.
    In all seriousness I don’t believe in superstitions, with the ONE EXCEPTION of acknowledging a no-hitter. That one happens every time without fail.

    Atheose August 29, 2007, 4:01 pm
  • A GREAT thread topic would be our baseball-watching superstitions.

    Atheose August 29, 2007, 4:03 pm
  • I have an Ortiz player t-shirt that hasn’t been washed since Game 4, 2004 ALCS, I bought it before the game because I got the ticket last minute and didn’t have time to go home and gear up.
    I don’t wear it for every game, only really important ones, but still, it’s the most disgusting article of clothing on the planet.

    LocklandSF August 29, 2007, 4:08 pm
  • Trisk, if that’s borderline OCD, I’m borderline bald (and sadly, that particular border disappeared for me llloooooooonnnngggg ago.)

    IronHorse (yf) August 29, 2007, 4:11 pm
  • Ironically enough I went to the same college as the single most superstitous baseball player of all time, Turk Wendell. It was fate…

    John - YF (Trisk) August 29, 2007, 4:13 pm
  • You know, however much we like to argue over whose fandom is superior, this thread (and community in general) really proves that we’re much more alike than we are different. Thanks, guys, for destroying my worldview. :)
    Also, Lockland, that is disgusting. Obviously it needed to be washed after 2005.

    Jackie (SF) August 29, 2007, 4:18 pm
  • Game 7 of the ’04 ALCS is the only baseball game I have ever left early. Ever. And that is many many many more games than I can count. Yankee Stadium being desecrted by RFs was just too much to take – I took off after the bottom of the 8th.
    As to superstitions: I have none. I have habits, but nothing I MUST do.

    IronHorse (yf) August 29, 2007, 4:26 pm
  • IronHorse, you are a good man. I wish I could be so carefree, LOL. It’s tough remembering all these rituals!

    John - YF (Trisk) August 29, 2007, 4:31 pm

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