Nor’Easter Special: Angels-Sox Gamer II

While a spinning mass of cold and wet weather begins to form, threatening Monday’s Boston Marathon and early Sox game, for today we get a touch of sun.  And, Curt Schilling.  Schilling looks to follow his fine second start with a similar effort, building continued momentum for a starting rotation that is beginning to look like the real deal.  Enjoy this game and this thread: it might be the last one for a little while.  For those Sox fans based in NYC, it’s a Fox game, so tune in.

Lineups (and editorial comments/statlets via Nick Cafardo and the Globe) after the jump.


SS Julio Lugo: .324, second on team.
1B Eric Hinske: Comes into the game with a 12-game hitting streak dating back to Sept. 14 of last season.
DH David Ortiz: 0-for-3 vs. Hector Carrasco.
LF Manny Ramirez: On a 2-for-17 spell. He’s 7-for-14 vs. Carrasco.
RF J.D. Drew: 13-game hitting streak.
3B Mike Lowell: Five of his nine hits have been doubles. 0-for-6 against Carrasco.
C Jason Varitek: 2-for-6 with a homer vs. Carrasco.
CF Coco Crisp: 0-for-8 in his last two games. Francona said he’s sticking with him.
2B Dustin Pedroia: Snapped a 0-for-14 with a sixth-inning single Friday night.
P Curt Schilling: 4-1, 3.44 in nine career games vs. Angels. Lost to Halo’s on July 30 at Fenway (six runs, 10 hits in five innings in a 10-4 loss).


CF Gary Matthews: He’s a horrible 4-21 (.190) vs. Schilling.
SS Orlando Cabrera: .294 with a homer vs. Schilling.
RF Vlad Guerrero: .278, five homers vs. Schil.
LF Garrett Anderson: .214, one homer vs. Schil.
DH Shea Hillenbrand: 3-for-8 against Schilling.
1B Casey Kotchman: 1-for-1 vs. Curt.
2B Howie Kendrick: 1-for-2 vs. Schil.
C Benji Molina: never faced Schilling.
3B Maicer Izturis: 1-for-3 vs. Curt.
P Hector Carrasco: This is his 24th appearnce against Boston. 1-2, 2.14 ERa, 29 strikeouts in 33-2/3 innings

168 comments… add one
  • Dick Stockton (old friend, he of Game 6, 1975) and Tim McCarver in the booth for Fox today.

    SF April 14, 2007, 3:51 pm
  • One pitch, one out. We like that.

    SF April 14, 2007, 3:58 pm
  • 2 more pitches, another out. Both on easy fly balls to Manny.

    SF April 14, 2007, 3:59 pm
  • 4 pitches to Vlad, gets him on a swinging strikeout. Very efficient inning from Curt.

    SF April 14, 2007, 4:01 pm
  • Dick Stockton said that Paps took the ball from Wakefield last night.
    Glad to hear he was paying attention.
    Seven pitches for the Schiller. Good start.

    I'm Bill McNeal April 14, 2007, 4:02 pm
  • Donnelly’s outing last night was forgettable, but not literally.
    And it’s good to hear that Cabrera still gets a nice ovation in Fenway.

    I'm Bill McNeal April 14, 2007, 4:03 pm
  • Carrasco on an 85 pitch limit, +/-. Sox would do well to work this guy hard, stay disciplined.

    SF April 14, 2007, 4:04 pm
  • Lugo Ks on 4 pitches, swinging.

    SF April 14, 2007, 4:04 pm
  • Carrasco looks to have a nice changeup, fooling Hinske badly.

    SF April 14, 2007, 4:06 pm
  • Angels suck. Why do the Yanks always have so much trouble with them?
    P.S. Sorry for trolling, just bored right now…

    yankeemonkey April 14, 2007, 4:06 pm
  • Yes, but we’re still going to stay off his back for now.

    I'm Bill McNeal April 14, 2007, 4:06 pm
  • Hola, YM.

    I'm Bill McNeal April 14, 2007, 4:07 pm
  • Hinske goes down looking on a good deuce. Another quick start at the plate for our team. Or not.

    SF April 14, 2007, 4:07 pm
  • Carrasco looks strong – the Sox definitely don’t have any kind of handle on this guy right now. As Cafardo noted, the Sox have had trouble in the past with him, and it’s continuing here, though Ortiz just drew a walk (after a really borderline, probably bad call, on 2-2). Here comes Manny.

    SF April 14, 2007, 4:09 pm
  • Somehow despite looking strong, Carrasco is now a little wild, and the pitch count is up to 18.

    SF April 14, 2007, 4:10 pm
  • Manny’s struggles continue – grounds into a fielder’s choice, 5-4.

    SF April 14, 2007, 4:11 pm
  • To think the Duke traded Lew Ford for Carrasco back in 2000.

    I'm Bill McNeal April 14, 2007, 4:12 pm
  • I thought Manny smoked that one.

    I'm Bill McNeal April 14, 2007, 4:13 pm
  • Big news for us in Chicago — USOC picks Chicago over LA for 2016 Olympics. now on to the IOC, where it’ll probably be London.

    I'm Bill McNeal April 14, 2007, 4:16 pm
  • For any of you in our fantasy game, I’ve put up new, and very nice, homepage for all of us….
    Hope you all like it!

    Brad April 14, 2007, 4:19 pm
  • Well, that was quick – I go away for five minutes and the Sox are back up. Drew drills one off Carrasco, who recovers to grab the ball and nail JD by a step.

    SF April 14, 2007, 4:20 pm
  • Lowell lines one to right, good piece of hitting.

    SF April 14, 2007, 4:21 pm
  • “Speedy Drew”? Is he really all that speedy? Also, ouch on that line drive off Carrasco.

    yankeemonkey April 14, 2007, 4:21 pm
  • Horrid at-bat for Tek, whiffing on a bad swing on a curveball inside and down. F’ugly.
    Up comes Crisp. Not a scary spot in the lineup at the moment.

    SF April 14, 2007, 4:23 pm
  • Is it just me, or does that ump have an odd strike zone?

    yankeemonkey April 14, 2007, 4:25 pm
  • Crisp walks.

    SF April 14, 2007, 4:25 pm
  • YM: the strike zone is, for lack of a better word, tight. It also might be inconsistnent. I though Ortiz should have been rung up in the first, and Coco appears to have been thrown at least 2 strikes, only one of which was called.

    SF April 14, 2007, 4:26 pm
  • The Sox, even if they don’t score, have now done well to get Carrasco up on his pitch count. Almost at 40.

    SF April 14, 2007, 4:27 pm
  • Oof, what the heck was wrong with that 2-1 pitch to Pedroia?

    SF April 14, 2007, 4:28 pm
  • Yeesh…
    I haven’t actually seen what Pedroia looks like until now, he looks about 15 years old.

    yankeemonkey April 14, 2007, 4:28 pm
  • Pedroia walks, bases loaded for Julio Lugo.

    SF April 14, 2007, 4:28 pm
  • CArrasco now struggling to find the strike zone as DP walks to lead the bases.

    I'm Bill McNeal April 14, 2007, 4:29 pm
  • I think Drew’s faster then his SB totals would indicate…my guess would be that teams don’t let him run because he might shatter sliding into second base, and he’s also not typically batting in a place in the order that steals a lot of bases.
    41 through 1.2 innings. I think that qualifies as making the pitcher work. Good start.

    desturbd1 April 14, 2007, 4:29 pm
  • Probably shoulda hit preview first…

    desturbd1 April 14, 2007, 4:30 pm
  • McCarver seems almost bearable when Buck is not around, doesn’t he?
    And then there’s this gem: “It’s easier to hit when the pitcher is wild because he wants to throw strikes…” Great insight, there.

    yankeemonkey April 14, 2007, 4:31 pm
  • Take a second strike, Julio…

    SF April 14, 2007, 4:31 pm
  • Carrasco wiggles off the hook somehow.

    yankeemonkey April 14, 2007, 4:32 pm
  • Ball 5 or 6 popped into the outfield…dammit.

    desturbd1 April 14, 2007, 4:32 pm
  • CRAP. McCarver says right before the pitch “turn him loose”, but Carrasco had no margin for error, was nowhere near the zone, and threw ball four. Lugo swings at it and harmless flies out.
    I am not prudishly conservative, but that was stupid baseball. Make him throw strikes in that situation. What a total waste.

    SF April 14, 2007, 4:33 pm
  • Pedroia’s number will be 16 next year, YM.

    I'm Bill McNeal April 14, 2007, 4:33 pm
  • Agreed, SF. As soon as McCarver said “turn him loose,” I cringed. He should have taken that pitch.
    And now McCarver says Lugo swung at ball 4. Christ, where’s NESN?

    I'm Bill McNeal April 14, 2007, 4:35 pm
  • Ya, I take back what I just said about McCarver.
    Holy crap, that’s a great catch by Lowell!

    yankeemonkey April 14, 2007, 4:38 pm
  • Triple for Hinske!

    SF April 14, 2007, 4:45 pm
  • Ooh, a leadoff 3B for Hinske. I thought that was gone for sure…

    yankeemonkey April 14, 2007, 4:45 pm
  • E-BB. The batboy plays a horrible carom, and it slips by him into right field.

    SF April 14, 2007, 4:46 pm
  • Carrasco gets Papi swinging for the first out. Nice.

    yankeemonkey April 14, 2007, 4:49 pm
  • Sox bats totally unclutch.

    SF April 14, 2007, 4:50 pm
  • Manny out on a pop-up for out #2…
    Btw, was that infield fly rule? I still get confused as to when it’s called.

    yankeemonkey April 14, 2007, 4:51 pm
  • wouldnt that be the ball boy :p

    TJ April 14, 2007, 4:51 pm
  • Can we leave 34 guys on today?

    SF April 14, 2007, 4:52 pm
  • Yes, ballboy. Right. Duh.

    SF April 14, 2007, 4:53 pm
  • patheitc umpire

    TJ April 14, 2007, 4:54 pm
  • What was that call on 3-0?!

    SF April 14, 2007, 4:54 pm
  • Wow, this ump f*cking blows. That 3-2 pitch looked fine to me.

    SF April 14, 2007, 4:55 pm
  • pathetic umpire

    TJ April 14, 2007, 4:55 pm
  • I hate these games when the bases are full all day and somehow the guy keeps getting out of trouble and throwing up zeroes.

    Brad April 14, 2007, 4:55 pm
  • i suppose the 3-2 call was to make up for the 3-0 call

    TJ April 14, 2007, 4:56 pm
  • nice!

    TJ April 14, 2007, 4:58 pm
  • Well then…Tek hit that ball really, really hard so it’s not like that was a poor ab. But uh…thanks, GMJ.

    desturbd1 April 14, 2007, 4:58 pm
  • BJ Ryan got his ass handed to him.

    Brad April 14, 2007, 4:58 pm
  • BJ Ryan sucks ;)

    TJ April 14, 2007, 5:01 pm
  • BTW Happy Birthday Wally!

    TJ April 14, 2007, 5:06 pm
  • ha, well clearly…he’s my closer in our league. I gave away Papelbon and K-Rod in favor of Ryan. Ugh.

    Brad April 14, 2007, 5:07 pm
  • Nicely done, Brad. That’s a second blown save already for Ryan, isn’t it?

    yankeemonkey April 14, 2007, 5:09 pm
  • Indeed. Anyhow, I did get Siezmore for Papelbon, and Jr. for K-Rod, so aside from the risk, I think I’ll be okay.

    Brad April 14, 2007, 5:10 pm
  • to Jr I mean, and I’m trying to rid myself of AL guys, you know, to avoid having them to wonderful due to the fact that I’m in an horrible position rooting for them to do so!

    Brad April 14, 2007, 5:11 pm
  • …wait, what?

    yankeemonkey April 14, 2007, 5:14 pm
  • do wonderful…jeez.

    Brad April 14, 2007, 5:14 pm
  • somebody update!!! I’m currently blocked out from this lab!

    Brad April 14, 2007, 5:15 pm
  • Damn…Hinskie been sitting on the bench all this time?

    Rob April 14, 2007, 5:16 pm
  • Hinskie singled off Oliver…Papi at the plate

    Rob April 14, 2007, 5:17 pm
  • 2-0 bot third 2 on 1 out Ortiz up

    TJ April 14, 2007, 5:17 pm
  • Papi hits to second….Hinskie takes the double play away from Cabbie trying to turn the dp.

    Rob April 14, 2007, 5:18 pm
  • ya brad ur audio was working fine last week then i went to listen last nite and it didnt work lol

    TJ April 14, 2007, 5:19 pm
  • Hinske wedging himself into the lead as Coco’s replacement? ha.

    Brad April 14, 2007, 5:20 pm
  • um…needless to say……manny due

    sf rod April 14, 2007, 5:21 pm
  • dPod :)

    TJ April 14, 2007, 5:21 pm
  • wp…Pedroia scores

    Rob April 14, 2007, 5:22 pm
  • ugh this damn security thing is getting to be a real pain!

    TJ April 14, 2007, 5:22 pm
  • Manny is way overdue

    Rob April 14, 2007, 5:23 pm
  • Yeah, I’ll be fixing it later today TJ, but I’m stuck at work, in a lab not my own, and IT has blocked MLB from this computer. I have a feeling I know what’s going on. They were supposed to just bill me automatically, but in hindsight, I no longer have the account number they have on file, so I’ll fix it later. Same logon credentials, TJ, so no worries. Glad you’re still getting it!

    Brad April 14, 2007, 5:23 pm
  • It is going to be interesting to see if Manny is going to get anything to hit this year with Drew now hitting after him.

    Rob April 14, 2007, 5:25 pm
  • It should be a crime to make anyone work when theres a sox game on :p

    TJ April 14, 2007, 5:25 pm
  • …hard for me to remember exactly how bad he looked last spring, or the spring before that…but Manny looks almost as bad as Crisp at the plate right now.

    desturbd1 April 14, 2007, 5:25 pm
  • So much for that vaunted LAA ‘pen, huh.

    yankeemonkey April 14, 2007, 5:26 pm
  • Only 7 LOBs through 4. Seems like it should be a lot higher than that.

    I'm Bill McNeal April 14, 2007, 5:26 pm
  • so much for bootcheck and oliver. no sheilds or k-rod yet.

    sf rod April 14, 2007, 5:29 pm
  • YM….sporting news had this series in the upcoming events for this week. The made the comment that both teams were the same except for the Angels pen.

    Rob April 14, 2007, 5:29 pm
  • Rob, I think the same thing. When Drew is raking, you would think that they would not want to get to him, but that doesn’t seem to be the case. Drew is going to have to keep this up a bit, and then I’m sure they’ll pitch around them both! Maybe flip flop them? Is that crazy? Yeah, nevermind.

    Brad April 14, 2007, 5:29 pm
  • How’s Schilling look?
    This typepad security check is out of fecking control. I know it’s not you guys’ fault, but holy cow…

    Brad April 14, 2007, 5:31 pm
  • pitch around them both is right. lowell and tek will have a lot of RISP this year. i can only hope they’ll cash in bofore we start hearing terms like old and broke.

    sf rod April 14, 2007, 5:33 pm
  • Strange…I don’t have problems with the security check..unless I post several times in a short interval.
    Schilling looks good. He’s greatly aided by the fact that Angels can’t hit.
    Question: Does Matsuzaka get to pitch in the NYY series next weekend?

    yankeemonkey April 14, 2007, 5:35 pm
  • first ball strikes to every batter so far. mixing speeds well. pitching to corners. not blowing guy’s away. i’d say he’s looked good.

    sf rod April 14, 2007, 5:36 pm
  • if the rotation holds now he will pitch both weekends against NYY

    TJ April 14, 2007, 5:36 pm
  • coco makes a play on the same ball GMJr booted for 2 unearned.

    sf rod April 14, 2007, 5:37 pm
  • Awesome if he goes the following weekend too. I am really looking forward to watching him pitch…too bad I won’t be able to watch next weekend.

    yankeemonkey April 14, 2007, 5:39 pm
  • thanks, guys.
    Anyhow, I’m out.
    Talk to you guys later.

    Brad April 14, 2007, 5:42 pm
  • Wow. Izturis just showed up Lowell, with a full-extension diving backhanded grab snaring a Varitek liner and saving a double.

    desturbd1 April 14, 2007, 5:44 pm
  • Curt very workmanlike today. Not overpowering, not dominating, but good enough to stay ahead of most everyone and keep them off balance. A good start to this point, if not quite King Felix-esque.

    SF April 14, 2007, 5:50 pm
  • Just got in and see the Sox are doing well. Schilling seems to be on track, as well.
    Anyone else noticed that his K numbers are way down this year? Either he’s getting very lucky or he’s really pitching to contact more…

    Paul SF April 14, 2007, 5:51 pm
  • Crisp looks at *another* strike three. It’s like he’s frozen up there…

    Paul SF April 14, 2007, 5:54 pm
  • Crisp is sooooo lost up there.

    SF April 14, 2007, 5:55 pm
  • There is no reason why GameCast should still have Eric Hinske in a Blue Jays uniform. He’s really been a good pickup for the Sox.

    Paul SF April 14, 2007, 5:57 pm
  • Never mind. They used his Blue Jay pic in the “On deck” segment, but have one with the Boston cap when he’s actually up to bat.

    Paul SF April 14, 2007, 5:59 pm
  • Walk to Lugo, stolen base, walk to Hinske, now Ortiz up with two on…

    Paul SF April 14, 2007, 6:02 pm
  • Papi singles through the shift, 4-0 Sox! Runners on the corners…

    Paul SF April 14, 2007, 6:04 pm
  • Manny in on the action. Base hit scores Hinske — 5-0 Sox!

    Paul SF April 14, 2007, 6:09 pm
  • Schilling’s actually mentioned trying to pitch to contact more on his blog, thus the changeup. That might explain it.

    desturbd1 April 14, 2007, 6:10 pm
  • Gotta run to dinner. This is one long ballgame. Those new speed rules can’t do anything about an ump with a wacky strike zone and pitchers with no control.
    Go Sox!

    SF April 14, 2007, 6:11 pm
  • Me thinks Tito should start WMP in center tomorrow. In fact, I think it’s time to consider a platoon in center.

    I'm Bill McNeal April 14, 2007, 6:16 pm
  • There went Schilling’s hopes for a complete game, I imagine. Went from 65 to about 90 pitches thanks to two 7+ pitch at bats and a walk…

    Paul SF April 14, 2007, 6:27 pm
  • Ditto that Bill

    Rob April 14, 2007, 6:27 pm
  • I’m inclined to agree, Bill. WMP with his bat has got to be worth more runs over Crisp than he takes away with the glove…

    Paul SF April 14, 2007, 6:28 pm
  • Good AB by Molina, though.
    You bring the Schiller out to start 8?
    And I’m out. Let’s hang on for .600.
    Adios, muchachos.

    I'm Bill McNeal April 14, 2007, 6:29 pm
  • Box score doesn’t show it, but Varitek’s swinging the bat much better today. The ball GMJ dropped in CF was smoked, and Izturis robbed him of extra bases on a hard liner down the left-field line. Looking much better thus far.

    desturbd1 April 14, 2007, 6:31 pm
  • Lowell and Varitek have both looked better this year. I suspect Lowell will wear down like he did last season though…

    Paul SF April 14, 2007, 6:32 pm
  • Just got in from Work, Big Schill is looking freakin’ amazing!

    Dionysus April 14, 2007, 6:37 pm
  • 103 pitches for Curt through eight. He might be able to make it through nine. I wonder… He looked good that inning, for sure.

    Paul SF April 14, 2007, 6:41 pm
  • Ok… do we give Schill the chance for a complete game shutout? He breezed through the 8th (only part of the game Ive seen thus far!) but his pitch count is up.
    Francona isnt sentimental.. I imagine he’ll pull Schilling

    Dionysus April 14, 2007, 6:41 pm
  • I’d like to see him get the shutout, myself. Why not? If he gives up a baserunner, pull him.

    Paul SF April 14, 2007, 6:43 pm
  • …How does Tim McCarver know that it’s Curt’s choice about whether he comes out for the ninth or not? Or is this just some sort of baseless assumption?

    desturbd1 April 14, 2007, 6:44 pm
  • I like Eric Hinske’s 2007 OBP: .857.

    Paul SF April 14, 2007, 6:47 pm
  • Make it .875 as he walks. That’s seven times reaching base in eight plate appearances this season.

    Paul SF April 14, 2007, 6:48 pm

    Dionysus April 14, 2007, 6:50 pm
  • papi strokes one to dead center 8 – 0.

    sf rod April 14, 2007, 6:50 pm
  • PAPI! Three-run jack!
    I think we can officially say he’s back to normal…

    Paul SF April 14, 2007, 6:51 pm
  • Willy Mo pinch hits and JD Drew’s streak ends… but BRAVO, DREW! You ARE officially welcomed to Boston

    Dionysus April 14, 2007, 6:52 pm
  • WMP looked dazed and confused at the plate

    Rob April 14, 2007, 6:54 pm
  • Brendan Donnelly in for Schilling after eight shutout innings. Great game for Schill.

    Paul SF April 14, 2007, 6:56 pm
  • He sounded it Rob (again.. I only have Gameday Audio), but… what do you expect when you aren’t getting hardly any at-bats? Hinske is the exception.. and Hinske is NOT in development like Pena; Pena needs at bats to get comfortable.

    Dionysus April 14, 2007, 6:57 pm
  • Wily Mo needs his at bats, and right now they’re being taken by Coco Crisp, who sorry to say, needs to be given a breather.

    Paul SF April 14, 2007, 6:57 pm
  • Redsox owned the Halos. Halos owned the Yankees. I guess Mike Sciocia hates the Yankees so much

    Nr-Yf April 14, 2007, 7:02 pm
  • Agreed Paul.
    I havent given up on Coco, but I think letting him sit for a game or two.. take some time with the coachs and in the cages.. maybe figure out whats going on. Let Wily Mo play some games

    Dionysus April 14, 2007, 7:03 pm
  • I’m gonna tell you a story
    I’m gonna tell about my town!

    Dionysus April 14, 2007, 7:04 pm
  • Great win! Another excellent turn from the Sox’ starting staff, and the bats are definitely waking up…

    Paul SF April 14, 2007, 7:05 pm
  • Who’da thought Boston’s bats would wake up versus the Angels? Sure, we haven’t exactly been facing their A-pen arms…but only because they can’t take a lead into even the 6th inning.
    That said, this looks dangerously similar to Boston’s 06 start…offense a little weak, pitching staff seems to be rolling. Of course, we haven’t been squeaking by with as many 1-run wins. In fact there’s only been one. Good sign.

    desturbd1 April 14, 2007, 7:11 pm
  • d1, maybe my hindisght is foggy, but I dont think we were pitching NEARLY this good this time last year.
    The Red Sox TEAM ERA is now under 3.

    Dionysus April 14, 2007, 7:14 pm
  • I remember the Sox were rolling thanks to identical 3-0 starts from Schilling and Beckett, and at one point Schill, Beckett and Wakefield all had 1.29 ERAs (or something similar). On the other hand, Clement was struggling and we had no fifth starter at all, making due with using off-days in the hopes that Wells would be healthy by the end of the month.
    This year, Matsuzaka joins the previous three. Our fifth starter remains a question mark, but only until Lester and/or Gabbard and/or Hansack come up to replace Tavarez. So I feel much better about the pitching sisutation than last year.

    Paul SF April 14, 2007, 7:18 pm
  • Plus last year… was a perfect storm of injuries that crushed our pitching. Clement, Wake, Wells, etc.
    Thats a rarity for THAT many pitcher to get injured for long periods all together.
    Speakign of Clement.. where the hell is he anyway? His name was whispered a few times durign Spring Training. Is he alive? Is he hiding under his bed in his parents basement? Will he ever see the sunlight again anywhere?

    Dionysus April 14, 2007, 7:26 pm
  • Clement’s still rehabbing. Some people are whispering late August/early September, but chances are he’s out for the year and off to free agency.

    But today’s win doesn’t really count, since, you know, it was only the Angels.

    Steve April 14, 2007, 7:41 pm
  • Am I being sarcastic? The world will never know!

    Steve April 14, 2007, 7:42 pm
  • //That said, this looks dangerously similar to Boston’s 06 start…offense a little weak, pitching staff seems to be rolling. Of course, we haven’t been squeaking by with as many 1-run wins. In fact there’s only been one. Good sign.//
    The 2006 team was on pace to win over 100 games well into July, before injuries decimated the entire team. It’s cool to rip on them now, but they weren’t exactly pushovers at (nearly) full strength.

    Steve April 14, 2007, 7:44 pm
  • Blah blah blah next thing I’ll hear is ‘its only the Blue Jays’ or ‘its onlyt he Tigers’ or ‘its only the Cylons’
    Wait.. I messed one up there..
    Anyway, point is.. Red Sox pitching is legit. Are we gonna be below 3.00 all year? Of course not (though it would be AWESOME), but our pitching is legit.

    Dionysus April 14, 2007, 7:46 pm
  • Of course, the Sox pitching was ‘legit’ last year too.
    Nevertheless, looks realllyy good now.

    Andrew April 14, 2007, 7:48 pm
  • The Sox pitching WAS very legit last year, until everybody went down. When you only have one starter who goes the distance, and your only relievers that are completely healthy are Tavarez and Seanez, chances are a few cards didn’t quite fall your way.

    Steve April 14, 2007, 7:49 pm
  • Of course it was, until it wasn’t.

    Andrew April 14, 2007, 7:50 pm
  • Right, Andrews.
    How’s that “pitching depth” working out for your team right about now?

    Steve April 14, 2007, 7:52 pm
  • I’ll take this years rotation i n a heartbeat.
    2007: Schill in a walk year
    BEckett with a year of experience/humbling in the AL under his belt
    Daisuke “I refuse to call him Dice-K” MAtsuzaka
    Wake being, well, Wake
    *soft hiss of white noise as Dionysus blocks out Tavarez as 5th starter*
    It gets even better when Lester’s ready!

    Dionysus April 14, 2007, 7:57 pm
  • Stepped away for dinner. I agree that WM looked dazed and confused, I wholeheartedly agree that he needs his ab’s that are being taken from someone who looks even more D & C with everyday chances.
    Great game, Curt looked tight like a tiger.

    Rob April 14, 2007, 8:00 pm
  • Boston may well have been on pace to win 100, but that doesn’t mean it was “legit” in the sense that they actually “should” have been. Boston’s run differential, even before the injuries, just wasn’t that great. There were a ton of 1-run games that went Boston’s way early on, and that isn’t a sustainable way to win. The injuries doomed them to be sure, but I don’t think they were ever as good as they looked in the first half.
    They definitely seem to be in a much better position now, but some of the same things still worry me. Romero, Okajima, Donnelly and Co. haven’t coughed up a lead, but then again, who knows what the next month will bring? Timlin looks legitimately healthy again, which is big, and I love Snyder coming out of the pen; in the minors, Bryan Corey’s continued his improbable run of dominance, Javier Lopez pitched well through spring and the first two weeks of the season, and any of the Cox/Martinez/Hansen/Delcarmen/Hansack group could be ready to step up sooner rather then later. Overall, I’m optimistic, and Boston looks better equipped to handle injuries to the staff then they were last year. But I won’t be surprised if/when the inevitable bullpen hiccups begin.

    desturbd1 April 14, 2007, 8:35 pm
  • Very good point about the 1-run games, but you win more of those than you lose when you have solid pitching…which we did.
    What surprises me is that we have so many insane pluses through the first week and people are still carping on Coco for a slow start, even though it’s a small sample size of 35-ish ABs. Why don’t people talk about Schill, Beckett, Wake, Paps, Drew, etc and wait for Coco to get things ironed out?

    Steve April 14, 2007, 8:38 pm
  • I think because of the somewhat spectacular way in which Crisp is failing. I mean it’s not just a matter of him not hitting…it’s him not hitting and looking like a minor leaguer while doing it. Admittedly, there’s been some bad luck–he hit a shot up the middle today that Cabrera made a nice play on, saving an RBI–but he’s also just not making good contact.
    And I think the reason most have held off on praising Beckett is because he started almost the exact same way last season before a drubbing at the hands of the Jays, which ended up a bit of a harbinger of things to come. That said, his approach definitely seems different this time around, which is great. Wake/Schill/Paps aren’t really surprises; it’s just good to see them all healthy. We all know that with Wakefield in particular, you’re going to get games like his first two and games where he’s out before the 6th inning; just the nature of the knuckler. Since they haven’t been surprises, people pay less attention.
    And I think people (especially in the media) are quiet about Drew because they made such tremendous asses of themselves before he got here. Just a guess. As for Lugo…I don’t know why, but even watching him today it didn’t feel like he’s off to as hot a start as he is, and I say that as someone who looked forward to his arrival since the signing was announced. Really, what it comes down to is that when SF’s try to be realistic, they usually end up just plain negative; when they try to be optimistic, it’s usually misguided. That’s how I feel most of the time, anyway.

    desturbd1 April 14, 2007, 9:02 pm
  • It’s “Andrew,” Steve.
    It’s actually working out okay. See, if the Sox had Schilling and Beckett injured, who would start? Pineiro, Snyder? At least we can agree Darrell Rasner, at least, is more capable than those two.
    I’m just saying pitching is ‘legit’ until, you know, it isn’t. Not trying to piss over anything, because like I already said, the Sox pitching looks real good. Now. (Just wait)

    Andrew April 14, 2007, 9:21 pm
  • Jeez, Jeter cost the team 3 runs.
    Where’s our Yankee gamer?

    Andrew April 14, 2007, 9:26 pm
  • Uhh, I don’t agree that Rasner is more capable then either of those. The hell has he done to earn that sort of respect? Had a decent spring then got pounded by the Orioles. I’d rather have Snyder, myself. Or Hansack. Probably Hansack.

    desturbd1 April 14, 2007, 9:29 pm
  • He’s certainly done more in recent years, in the majors, than Pineiro or Snyder.

    Andrew April 14, 2007, 9:32 pm
  • No Yankees thread?

    z118 April 14, 2007, 9:32 pm
  • Guess not z. I’m watching the game on the little game day progrom which confuses me. Soem games it shows the flight path of the pitch, some games – like this one – it does not. What be the difference?
    Rasner’s given up 3 runs – none earned so far. While its not all his fault, his pitches have been gettign hit pretty hard, two doubles already. Still, they Yankees seem to as of yet have pitchign and defense workign at the same time.

    Dionysus April 14, 2007, 9:47 pm
  • See.. The Toronto game has the nifty moving pitches.. the Yankee game does not.

    Dionysus April 14, 2007, 9:51 pm
  • I am also watching on Gameday, and I have not figured out the flight path deal either. Sometimes it’s there, sometimes it isn’t. I really don’t care for it, so it doesn’t break my heart when it isn’t there.

    z118 April 14, 2007, 9:54 pm
  • Well, I’m out. Baseball Tonights coming on and I want to see Sox highlights

    Dionysus April 14, 2007, 9:57 pm
  • Wow, A-Rod hasn’t had a bad game this season.
    Boo, Jeter’s error makes me a sad panda now.

    Andrew April 14, 2007, 10:09 pm
  • If anyone’s not getting an update, Damon hit a homer, Cano is on first with one out.

    rootbeerfloat April 14, 2007, 10:10 pm
  • DAMON hit a homer? The hell is going on with gameday, ESPN, and Yahoo? What’s the score, then?

    desturbd1 April 14, 2007, 10:12 pm
  • (A-Rod hit a homer)

    Andrew April 14, 2007, 10:12 pm
  • Game thread up top.

    SF April 14, 2007, 10:12 pm
  • My bad! I really hate all the Yankees equally so I can’t tell Arod from Damon….

    rootbeerfloat April 14, 2007, 10:16 pm
  • //It’s actually working out okay. See, if the Sox had Schilling and Beckett injured, who would start? Pineiro, Snyder? At least we can agree Darrell Rasner, at least, is more capable than those two.//
    Pineiro isn’t even on the depth chart right now, and neither is Snyder. Hansack would get the first call, then Lester, then Gabbard, who are all better than Rasner. I don’t see how Darrell is any superior to Snyder, either.
    That’s not mentioning that Pineiro has had a pretty damn good season starting in the AL for an entire year before. Has Rasner? No.
    But thanks for playing.

    Steve April 15, 2007, 2:27 am

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