On Second Thought…: Twins-Yanks Gamer VII

  • Maybe it wasn’t such a good idea to bid on Kei Igawa.
  • It probably was a bad idea to sign Kyle Farnsworth to a pretty pricey contract.
  • The Yanks are not good enough to simply throw away a position (1st base).
  • Perhaps signing Johnny Damon will actually hurt the Yanks more than help them when all is said and done.
  • That Carl Pavano guy might not have what it takes to make it in New York.
  • Jarett Wright…not so much.
  • Carlos Beltran wanted to play for the Yanks.
  • Vladimir Guerrero is younger and better than Gary Sheffield.
  • Ted Lilly was cheaper and better than Jeff Weaver who was cheaper and better than Kevin Brown.
  • Javier Vazquez is a good pitcher who would be of use to the Yanks right now.

Hindsight is 20/20 as they say. It’s also unaccountable and self-serving. But this season has been such a nightmare for Brian Cashman  that there seem to be a lot of newspaper items these days calling into question his competence. The mistakes of yesterday all seem to be coming back to haunt the Bombers now. Take one example: What if the Yanks had signed Beltran and avoided signing Pavano and Wright and making the expensive trade for the Big Unit? Wouldn’t they have been better in 2005 as well as today?   

There was a haiku I once read somewhere:

Regret in the past
Insistence in the present
Doom in the future

But the present is so grim, so does that mean we’re already in the future?

In other words, the Yanks are making me sad these days. This is game 83, which means we’re past the half-way mark. What to do but just root now? The Yanks send out one of their regrets (perhaps it is too early to declare that?) against control-expert Kevin Slowey, who many compare to Brad Radke. Comment on all the action here.

75 comments… add one
  • the Kei Igawa show begins with 2 runs.
    O’Neill and Murcer are politely discussing how poor a pitcher he seems to be. There seems to be a question beneath everything they’re saying: Why the hell did the Yanks want this guy?!

    Nick-YF July 5, 2007, 1:28 pm
  • To show you guys that they were on top of the Japanese pitching market as well, Nick. Duh.:)

    Regular_Brad. July 5, 2007, 1:30 pm
  • to be fair to the Yanks, reportedly several teams including the Sox (before the Dice0K bid) liked him.

    Nick-YF July 5, 2007, 1:33 pm
  • :)

    Regular_Brad. July 5, 2007, 1:34 pm
  • nice at-bat by Cairo as he drives Phillips home.

    Nick-YF July 5, 2007, 1:54 pm
  • The pitching staff’s upheaval has been a problem since the 2003 World Series. I would point out that in your list of bad investments in the pitching dept, most (Brown, Vazquez, Pavano, Wright, and Johnson) were coming off banner years IN THE NATIONAL LEAGUE. Their performance was bound to suffer in the AL. Also, Brown, Pavano and Wright (and to a lesser extent RJ) were all serious injury risks. If you ask me, the team should’ve known both of those facts regarding all of them. As to Damon, signing him is a double whammy since he could be hurting Boston’s lineup right now but instead will be hurting ours for the next 2.5 years.
    Here’s a novel idea: try developing pitchers from the farm system. I like the current rotation of Clemens-Pettitte-Mussina-Wang.
    And as to Vlad vs Sheff, I would’ve preferred Vlad (younger, better D, not so high maintenance in contract years) but I definitely preferred Sheff’s patience at the plate and the guy did produce.
    Should they have ignored Giambi and started Nick Johnson back in 2002?

    Chris July 5, 2007, 1:56 pm
  • Melky!!!
    Chris, completely agree. I think Cashman’s insistence on not parting with Hughes, Joba and Ian Kennedy is a sign that he has learned from his and the organization’s past mistakes.

    Nick-YF July 5, 2007, 2:00 pm
  • and the list of regrets is not meant as an indictment of the organization. Certainly it would be hypocritical of me to take Cashman to task for the Farnsworth signing. I liked it at the time. But I guess I was wrong.

    Nick-YF July 5, 2007, 2:01 pm
  • I guess it goes to show that Japanese baseball is a crapshoot — both teams badly wanted Matsuzaka and both teams were interested in Igawa. The Sox put their money where their scouts were and shocked the Yankees, who underestimated the market for Matsuzaka pretty significantly (the Yankees finishing third in the bidding for anything rarely if ever happens). The Yankees went out and got Igawa. Nothing wrong with that at all. The Sox would have done the same had the tables been reversed.
    The difference is that the Yankees went out and significantly overvalued the market for Igawa — to such an extent that by percentage they actually outbid the field by a lerger extent than the Sox did for Daisuke. THAT was the mistake. Cashman twice misread the market for Japanese players. I would hesitate to say it’s his fault that Igawa came much worse than advertised.

    Paul SF July 5, 2007, 2:09 pm
  • I forget who emphasized this on this site but we really don’t know the bids of the teams behind the Sox for Dick-K and behind the Yanks for Igawa. Those bids were secret. Rumors and innuendo are just that, sO I hesitate to conclude that either team misread the market. Unless those bids did become public knowledge.
    In any case, Cashman in interviews knew the qualitative difference between the two pitchers. He thought Dice-K was a front of the line starter and that Kei was a back-end guy.

    Nick-YF July 5, 2007, 2:16 pm
  • Dick-K is a freudian slip if there ever was one!;)

    Nick-YF July 5, 2007, 2:16 pm
  • Well, that’s true, Nick. But no one has ever publicly disputed the leaked figures, and by now, if the reported totals were wrong, we would know, I think.

    Paul SF July 5, 2007, 2:19 pm
  • Kei Igawa is something awful

    Nick-YF July 5, 2007, 2:31 pm
  • Igawa gives the lead back.

    Nick-YF July 5, 2007, 2:34 pm
  • It’s bittersweet for me every time Igawa lays an egg. On the one hand, I’m happy the Yankees have him and are losing with him (or tied, in this case). On the other, I think: “How in the crap did the Sox lose to this guy??”

    Paul SF July 5, 2007, 2:45 pm
  • to be fair to the Yanks, reportedly several teams including the Sox (before the Dice0K bid) liked him.
    Lots of team like lots of the same guys. Not all of them bid the highest amount for players or offer the biggest contracts. I think this is a straw man of an argument, to some extent.

    SF July 5, 2007, 2:52 pm
  • Okay. They got Igawa for the going-rate (if not cheaper) for a 5th starter. I think the teams that bid on him would have been fine with him at the price the Yanks got him at. My only point is that it wasn’t just the scouts of the Yanks that liked Igawa, which is amazing to me considering how utterly crappy he looks.

    Nick-YF July 5, 2007, 2:59 pm
  • Didn’t know there was a game so early. But jeebus, even Kei got to stop giving up 5 runs to this dismal offense. Hopefully the Yanks will keep on hitting..

    Lar July 5, 2007, 3:02 pm
  • I think the teams that bid on him would have been fine with him at the price the Yanks got him at
    Maybe, but probably not. Otherwise, they might have bid it. Any team that bid bid the highest they were willing to bid in the environment of a blind bid. Meaning, they all had to anticipate a possible market value, and then bid what they thought it would take to win the bidding (assuming they were all bidding in good faith, which, for millions of dollars, you tend to do). It’s not correct to say a team that didn’t bid something would have definitively been comfortable paying a higher number, since they didn’t bid it in the first place.

    SF July 5, 2007, 3:15 pm
  • I’m hesitant to call for Cash’s head over the Igawa signing, despite another brutal outing by Kei today. I’m glad to see he’s hanging on to the youngsters down on the farm. My question about the Yankees future is more about position players. We seem to have a good stock of pitchers now; where’s the offense going to come from? There doesn’t seem to be a similar level of talent among our position players. Your thoughts?

    nettles-yf July 5, 2007, 3:35 pm
  • Third hit of the day for Leche! Nice to see that from him.

    nettles-yf July 5, 2007, 3:36 pm
  • so by that logic should we assume that neither the Yanks and any other team would have been comfortable bidding $51 million for Dice-K? It’s a blind bid, so teams are involved in an elaborate guessing game which might or might not represent how much they are ultimately willing to pay.
    Anyway, my contention is that a few other teams thought Kei Igawa was a major league back-end of the rotation talent. It wasn’t only the Yanks. To me the biggest mistake the Yanks made was not the bid because whatever they always seem to overpay for even good players (Giambi, Jeter, Mussina, etc.) but believing this guy was serviceable.

    Nick-YF July 5, 2007, 3:52 pm
  • so by that logic should we assume that neither the Yanks and any other team would have been comfortable bidding $51 million for Dice-K?
    No clue. They didn’t bid that much. Which means that they a) didn’t think he’d go for that much (in which case they DID misread the market) or b) weren’t comfy bidding that much. Conversely, with Igawa, they bid $26M and won, which means that nobody else was either comfortable bidding that much or thought he’d go for that much.
    (I have no idea what we are debating, at this point, either) ;-)
    Also, “back-end” talent for a rotation certainly depends on the team, doesn’t it? A back of the rotation guy for a pitching-rich team means that the same guy might be middle of the rotation for a lesser team. Was Igawa looked upon as “back of the rotation” for any team? Or the Yankees? If it’s “any team”, then that’s a darn shitty pitcher, and justifying the acquisition of a $50M+ pitcher asserting that they knew he was “just a back of the rotation kind of pitcher” is pretty weak, from where I sit.

    SF July 5, 2007, 3:59 pm
  • I’d always heard about Igawa that he’d be a good pitcher, not Matsuzaka but a couple notches below — maybe a 3 or 4 starter? I was hoping myself that the Sox would go afer Igawa even having gotten Matsuzaka. Clearly, the scouting reports were way, way off.
    Again, it seems like a crapshoot. Hideki Irabu was supposed to be fantastic and blew it. Hideki Okajima was supposed to be merely serviceable and has been great. I imagine that’s the burning question among the big-market players in the Far East — how do you translate the talent you see there into accurate projections here?

    Paul SF July 5, 2007, 4:06 pm
  • Cashman has said numerous times this signing is on his shoulders. BUT in his defense the market was O.O.C! Lilly, health issues. Marquis, how has he been his last 8 starts? Schmidt was throwing 82 before the shut him down. Gil Meche? I don’t blame them for not jumping on any of those guys. The mistake was made by not going big on Daisuke. They really missed a HR on that one.
    That being said our issues go deeper then Igawa.

    John - YF (Trisk) July 5, 2007, 4:10 pm
  • I need to argue today. I haven’t done it in a while.:) Back-end for the Yanks, middle-of-the-rotation for some teams. I don’t see why it matters really. The point is there were major league teams besides the Yanks who overestimated this. But a blind bid is not representative of free-market value for obvious reasons. I can’t see what my competitor is going to bid so I have to guess. Who knows what the price would have been for either team if teams were given a shot to bid in an open auction? My point I guess is it’s not clear at all that the Yanks valued Kei Igawa more than other teams just because they bid more for him. Same with the Sox regarding Dice-K.

    Nick-YF July 5, 2007, 4:11 pm
  • Back to your main thread, Nick: why shouldn’t Cashman face serious criticism for his moves?
    Last year Theo Epstein took a lot of heat for the Hanley Ramirez deal, and some of us Sox fans screamed “hold on – it’s only been one season of a deal consummated for the long term!”. On the other hand, he didn’t trade young talent at the deadline for Bobby Abreu, and took heat for being a cheapskate unwilling to go the extra mile for the team (ditto the Johnny Damon non-retention). He also traded Cla Meredith/Josh Bard for Doug Mirabelli, and Bronson Arroyo for Wily Mo, and has been roundly and justifiably criticised (and self-critical of at least the first of those two deals), though time has certainly undone some of the lopsidedness of both those transactons. Cashman received universal praise for not giving up very much for Abreu, for wining and dining Johnny Damon surreptitiously, and has received a lot of plaudits for holding on to every youngster in the system right now. But why should we just chalk it up to “well, he liked guys that other GMs coveted, too?”? I don’t see why “hindsight is 20/20” is dismissed summarily: isn’t reviewing past performance a fair way to determine the accomplishments of an employee? Why shouldn’t Cashman (or Epstein, or Kenny Williams, or Dave Dombrowski, or any GM) be judged on the quality of their work?

    SF July 5, 2007, 4:11 pm
  • man, I need to stop deleting things. There were other teams who overestimated Igawa’s talent. He is not even a back-end of the rotation guy.

    Nick-YF July 5, 2007, 4:12 pm
  • I dont think its fair to write off Igawa yet. This could be nothing mroe then a hard adjustment to a different league.
    Granted his season is far worse then Beckett’s last year in his adjustment to the AL, but Igawa can still shake off the rought first season and be an effect back end of the rotation guy. He has shown some great ability this season, now he just needs to get it going consistently.
    Remember this game…
    http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/boxscore;_ylt=AknnpQ6b2ccISCpVhAVfr0mFCLcF?gid=270428110

    TJ July 5, 2007, 4:13 pm
  • I’m definitely not dismissing hindsight, although I think too many of the “experts” and analysts have a way of not acknowledging what they thought when the trades and signings were actually happening. But yes, ultimately GM’s are judged by the results although the reasons and circumstances surrounding the actions should be taken into consideration.

    Nick-YF July 5, 2007, 4:16 pm
  • Ahhhh Pat Neshek, sweet!

    John - YF (Trisk) July 5, 2007, 4:17 pm
  • My point I guess is it’s not clear at all that the Yanks valued Kei Igawa more than other teams just because they bid more for him.
    This statement makes no sense to me. Of course it’s clear: they WON the bid!
    Blind bids are very difficult, the hardest kind of auctions, I freely admit. But the fact is that the Yankees did math on both transactions: they determined what Daisuke was worth to them. They guessed what he was worth to everyone else. They bid accordingly. They were wrong. They misvalued him. With Igawa, they bid correctly in order to procure his services, meaning that they valued him more highly than anyone else. This is perhaps not quite a criticism (again, blind bids are hard, so it’s not necessarily incompetence that they misvalued, and I don’t want this to be taken as an accusation of that), but it’s also quite clearly a case of misvaluation.
    And Trisk, I think you are basically right. But I would ask one thing, and this is utterly 20/20 hindsight: why didn’t the Bombers go into the season with Hughes in the rotation? If they were willing to put $50M+ at risk with Igawa as a back of the rotation guy, then why not Hughes? Clearly, he was ready from a “stuff” standpoint, if not just-about ready.

    SF July 5, 2007, 4:18 pm
  • I’m off to look at an apartment with the lady. We are hoping to buy. Wish us luck!

    Nick-YF July 5, 2007, 4:18 pm
  • I wouldnt say they over valued Igawa, I think they panic bidded exceeding what they probably would have to ensure they would beat everyone else.

    TJ July 5, 2007, 4:21 pm
  • although I think too many of the “experts” and analysts have a way of not acknowledging what they thought when the trades and signings were actually happening
    This it true. For me, though I am no “expert”, I am happy to be wrong on many occasions, such is my view of the Sox… (see Lugo, Julio).
    Just once, wouldn’t it be cool to hear Peter Gammons say “hey, that kid that I said was special and in the best shape of his career? Well, he’s not special. He’s a fat, washed-up pile of wasted bonus money”.
    Never gonna happen.
    And good luck, Nick – that NYC real estate market is a doozy. Lots of Kei Igawas out there…

    SF July 5, 2007, 4:22 pm
  • When I write “value”, I mean “want”. Again, a blind bid doesn’t necessarily reflect what a team is willing to spend to get a player they want.

    Nick-YF July 5, 2007, 4:23 pm
  • Good Luck!
    SF, I think the game plan was too not use Hughes unless needed. Ideally that meant June, July, August oe even better ’08. Unfortunately poop happens and he was pressed into action.
    Cash should have DEMANDED a ML starter from ‘Zona for Unit. Instead we got Vizcaino (ugggh), a SS with noooooo bat and a AAAA SP in Ohlendorf. Igawa makes Miguel Batista look like Cy Young!
    MATSUIIIIIIIIII!

    John - YF (Trisk) July 5, 2007, 4:24 pm
  • Pat Neshek needs to spend more time practicing and less time blogging. Who does he think he is? Curt Schilling? Har.

    Paul SF July 5, 2007, 4:26 pm
  • Has anyone seen Neshek from the stretch? He losses contact with the rubber in the windup, in the stretch thats a balk. Let me know if anyone has.

    John - YF (Trisk) July 5, 2007, 4:29 pm
  • Crunch time for the old man.

    Regular_Brad. July 5, 2007, 4:39 pm
  • …Cuddyer? Not a chance!

    Regular_Brad. July 5, 2007, 4:40 pm
  • No way he gets a hit here!

    Regular_Brad. July 5, 2007, 4:41 pm
  • poop happens, Trisk?
    HAHAHAHA

    Regular_Brad. July 5, 2007, 4:42 pm
  • Cuddyer is going to chase the three -two

    Regular_Brad. July 5, 2007, 4:43 pm
  • The Yanks win. 3/4 isn’t so bad, considering the loss was against Santana.
    Let’s hope this marks a turning point for the season..

    Lar July 5, 2007, 4:48 pm
  • Let’s hope this marks a turning point for the season..
    Can never have too many turning points, I say!

    Regular_Brad. July 5, 2007, 4:54 pm
  • If it is a turning point, it will be at least the Yankees’ third — follwoing the A-Rod grand slam in April and the A-Rod homer off the Sox in June.

    Paul SF July 5, 2007, 5:36 pm
  • Fruitbat looked uber-hittable today. I wonder how he would have fared against a truly dangerous hitter like Marco Scutaro.

    mp July 5, 2007, 6:00 pm
  • Most turning points don’t begin with Mariano Rivera coming a single away from blowing a two-run lead to the Twins…
    I remember a few things about Igawa before he got here, namely that a couple of resources didn’t think he’d be a good number 5. Rotoworld on Nov. 28:
    “If SI.com was right, the Yankees spent $25 million on Igawa after bidding $30 million for Daisuke Matsuazaka. However, there’s little chance that Igawa will compare to Matsuzaka in the majors. He’s likely to be a third or fourth starter at best, and it’s possible that he won’t even be a good No. 5. Assuming the Yankees get him signed, there will be just one rotation spot available for Carl Pavano or the club’s youngsters.”
    “It’s hard to see Igawa being worth the $40 million-$45 million for three years the Yankees might be spending here.”
    Of course, later on they called him a pretty good bet in his first season…I’m guessing opinions of the Roto staff must have been somewhat divided. In any event, the first part of what they said pretty much sums up my thoughts on why Cashman deserves nothing but sh*t for this. Opinion on Matsuzaka was universally positive; there was a great deal of debate about whether Igawa would even survive as a fifth starter. Why, then, would the two bids by anywhere near each other when there was almost no chance the two players would be remotely comparable? This is probably a market misjudgment…but on the surface, it almost looks like he/the scouts felt the two of them were somewhere in the same area talent-wise as well.
    (Also, anyone else remember that Peter Abraham side-by-side of the two pitchers that he did after 4 or 5 starts? Heh…makes me smile.)

    desturbd1 July 5, 2007, 6:50 pm
  • YFs are pining for Javier Vazquez? Really? Now that’s a name guaranteed to bring a smile to any SFs face…

    Hudson July 6, 2007, 2:42 am
  • “what Daisuke was worth to them. They guessed what he was worth to everyone else. They bid accordingly. They were wrong. They misvalued him.”
    This is a stretch, SF. No one could have predicted the sox’ “daisy cutter” bid- which many took to be as much about blocking the yanks as actually trying to sign DM.
    ” But the fact is that the Yankees did math on both transactions: they determined what Daisuke was worth to them. They guessed what he was worth to everyone else.”
    In other words, you’re saying that the yanks determined DM’s market value. A bid roughly 20M over the rest of the pack is about as “maket value” as the contract Tom Hicks gave ARod.
    The question I’ve asked myself all year is: Why would a scout think that Igawa could live up in the zone in MLB with an average fastball like he did in Japan? Either they thought he would be successful here with the same approach, or foolishly thought he would be able to completely change – his lack of ability to throw fastballs down for strikes makes you doubt he will ever be effective.

    Andrews July 6, 2007, 11:32 am
  • Market value is what the market determines. There was no real “market” for Daisuke Matsuzaka, so the Yankees had to guess the bids and bid accordingly, like everyone else. They guessed wrong. This isn’t a crap on the Yankees – it’s something of a fact. They underestimated both his value (at least based on his performance to date) and the demand for his services. Again, this isn’t to crap on the Yankees, but to deny that they didn’t do something quite misconceived is silly: at the very least they misjudged the Sox’ interest in Matsuzaka by a great deal. Or, they thought he would demand a $15M/year contract and wasn’t worth it, or they thought they would be the high bidder. No matter which way you cut it, they were wrong.

    SF July 6, 2007, 11:40 am
  • Part of the “mistake” was in mis-estimating the amount that Scott Boras and Matsuzaka would accept in a contract, as well. If you do the simplistic math, and just add the posting fee and the base contract value together (I am on the record as not liking this method), the Red Sox inked Matsuzaka for six years and $103M. I imagine that most of the teams bidding on Daisuke (maybe even the Sox at the time of the bid) felt that he would demand much more in the contract portion of the negotiations, and might walk away if his ask wasn’t met, and bid accordingly so as to be able to sink more into the contract. On the other hand, it’s possible that the Sox felt that Matsuzaka was coming to the States come hell or high water, and that they could ink him for a contract of AAV well below the market for free agents, so bid more in the post. I speculate (and this is made easy through hindsight), but it really seems that there were mistakes made by perhaps every bidding team on this front (but one), that teams misjudged what Boras and his client would accept.

    SF July 6, 2007, 11:52 am
  • They certainly underestimated the demand for his services. I don’t see how you can conclude they underestimated his value. You and I have no idea what they were willing to offer him if they had the chance to negotiate with them. But they knew he was going to be a top-of-the-rotation guy, and considering how much they offer other #1 starters, I think they have a fair idea that it’s costly. And I don’t think the front office and Yankees scouts are at all surprised by how good Matsuzaka has been.
    I think the Matsuzaka bid does reflect poorly on Cashman and the front-office. Again, I want to emphasize that we really don’t know how much they offered although there is the leaked figure of $30 million (the fact that the Yanks have not disputed that number however does not indicate to me its accuracy. I don’t see what they gain from disputing it in the first place.)But in the end, whatever their bid it wasn’t enough, and so they lost in this game. And the Sox look like huge winners here because they played the blind bid game better and more intelligently than anyone else.

    Nick-YF July 6, 2007, 12:08 pm
  • “but it really seems that there were mistakes made by perhaps every bidding team on this front (but one), that teams misjudged what Boras and his client would accept.”
    this is my hunch as well. Heck, don’t we have proof at this site that most people thought it would take a lot more per year to sign him!

    Nick-YF July 6, 2007, 12:09 pm
  • They certainly underestimated the demand for his services. I don’t see how you can conclude they underestimated his value.
    Maybe we’re just splitting hairs here. I guess if you presume that the Yankees thought that Dice-K would be extremely valuable, then it just means that they didn’t want to pay “fair value” for his services. In other words, let’s say they thought he was going to be better than Barry Zito, but they expected Zito to command $90-$100M. And let’s say they had decided that Zito wasn’t the right guy for them. So they went after Matsuzaka. But they only bid $30M, thinking it would take $75M to sign him. In this (hypothetical) scenario, the team both misjudged the bid AND misjudged his contract demands. Their assessment of his “value” may have been right on the money (he certainly looks like a $100M pitcher so far), but how they could go about obtaining that value was off the mark, significantly. For Igawa, they bid enough to obtain the value they thought he held. One misjudgment led to another, compounding the error of the first — at least for 1/2 a season –there’s a long way to go for both of these deals.

    SF July 6, 2007, 12:18 pm
  • hey SF, off topic but since you know some things about the physical space that is New Yor City and maybe you’ve been around to more places in the outer boroughs than I have, what’s your take on Jackson Heights? It’s looking more and more like the new home neighborhood for Mr. Nick-Y and Mrs. Nick-YF.

    Nick-YF July 6, 2007, 12:23 pm
  • YF may be the man for info on Jackson Heights – I don’t know it well at all. Great food, apparently.
    http://www.chowhound.com/topics/388653

    SF July 6, 2007, 12:29 pm
  • Nick, As a former B’klyn co-op owner – avoid co-ops if you can; easier said than done in NYC. If you decide to go that route, check out the finances and physical condition of the building VERY carefully – assessments are rough. Also, remember that you’re going into business with the neighbors – get a feel for them as well.

    Andrews July 6, 2007, 12:50 pm
  • Thanks, Andrews. We are looking at coops as Jackson Heights is filled with them. They’re kind of hard to avoid as a result.

    Nick-YF July 6, 2007, 12:55 pm
  • Another thing: if you buy into a condo with a 421-A tax abatement, make sure to get a good understanding of what the taxes are post-abatement. They could skyrocket, so be careful – the abatements are great for shorter-term buying and selling, but if you plan on being there for several years be aware of what they are when they accelerate back to normal.

    SF July 6, 2007, 1:05 pm
  • Likewise, with a coop, ask about the J51 real estate tax abatement. The same senario holds true. Usually newer coops take advantage of this tax break; it’s allowed for the first 10 years (roughly) of a coop’s existence.
    If you go forward, in your interview, don’t be afraid to ask if any major repairs or assessments are planned in the short term.

    Andrews July 6, 2007, 1:21 pm
  • Wow, when I finally buy an apartment, I’ll ask the YF/SF’s! =P

    Lar July 6, 2007, 1:58 pm
  • hey guys, thanks for the help.

    Nick-YF July 6, 2007, 2:19 pm
  • No one could have predicted the sox’ “daisy cutter” bid- which many took to be as much about blocking the yanks as actually trying to sign DM.
    I think this is half right. I think everyone except the Sox (duh) were floored by the size of the bid. No one anticipated the Sox were willing to go that high to get Matsuzaka. But I believe — and I think most people believe — the Sox always intended to sign him. And the “many” who thought it was just to block the Yanks for a year were A. Yankee fans at other sites, B. Yankee writers, and C. Steve Phillips. That in no way constitutes an accurate gauge of public sentiment.

    Paul SF July 6, 2007, 2:38 pm
  • Nick, just move to Texas. You’ll get a house with twice the space for half (probably more like a third) the price as whatever you’ll end up paying in NYC.

    Paul SF July 6, 2007, 3:04 pm
  • but commuting to classes would be such a bitch:)

    Nick-YF July 6, 2007, 3:16 pm
  • Just move in with SF you guys can duke it out every nite LOL

    TJ July 6, 2007, 3:36 pm
  • Nick will have to share a room with Soxtoddler Isaac. Which could be fun, actually.

    SF July 6, 2007, 4:12 pm
  • I think letting a YF that close to a baby constitutes some form of abuse.

    Paul SF July 6, 2007, 4:20 pm
  • Sorry: Toddler, child, etc.

    Paul SF July 6, 2007, 4:20 pm
  • Here is tonight’s lineup….
    Sleepy is getting creative!
    YANKEES
    Damon LF
    Cabrera CF
    Jeter SS
    Rodriguez 3B
    Matsui DH
    Posada C
    Abreu RF
    Cano 2B
    Phillips 1B
    Pettitte LHP

    John - YF (Trisk) July 6, 2007, 4:29 pm
  • Is there a bigger lock than the Yankees against Colon?

    SF July 6, 2007, 4:44 pm
  • Sure there is and that’s Tavarez Vs. Andrew Miller! Reverse Jinx, no backsies!

    John - YF (Trisk) July 6, 2007, 4:54 pm
  • Seriously, though, could Colon be worse against the Bombers? Check out his three year line…

    SF July 6, 2007, 5:26 pm

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