Orioles-Yankees May 20th Game Summary

Train_wreck

Now that that is covered, there is some good news. ARod found the bullpen in left center and fielded his position well in his first game back. Jeter is day-to-day instead of having what I was sure was going to be a broken hand after repeated viewings of the YES replay of a Cabrera fastball ricocheting off the back of Jeter’s left hand, in which the ball sounded like it was hitting the bat directly. And it is indeed a good thing that LaTroy Hawkins missed Luke Scott on the second of back-to-back “message” pitches, which was without doubt right at his head. I was not decided on the matter when Manny got buzzed by Farnsworth, but now I am convinced: it has to stop. Both teams were on the field rather quickly, including Joe Girardi more or less leading the sprint from the dugout and fortunately nothing more came of it. Yet.

Yes, Jeter had already been hit. Yes, Cabrera (Daniel) came in tight with a little chin music on Cabrera (Melky) earlier. No, I do not think that pitchers should be enjoined from plunking batters, let alone pitching inside. On general principal and especially considering the game circumstances, if there was any intent (and I do think there was), it was foolish and reeked of poor sportsmanship, bordering on what appeared (of course you never can know intent, and of course Hawkins claims it slipped) to be malicious disregard for the player. I suppose I could have skipped this whole post and just reprinted the comment I wrote in the game thread when I watched the affair transpire…

Ugliness.

20 comments… add one
  • And Scott, ultimately, got revenge by smacking a homer. So it balances out…

    bostondreams May 21, 2008, 1:41 am
  • Checking in from my transit point in far-away lands and I must say having read the game thread and now your postmortem Gerb that I am happy I was on the plane for this one.
    Blowout as of the first inning, captain hurt, no offense to speak of. Our best pitcher for the month of May was demolished and I believe this now makes a 13 game stretch for the Yanks in which they have averaged 2 runs/game (no time to verify now but I am pretty sure that’s right). And it seems that without A-Rod we likely wouldn’t have had that many last night. Add on top of it what it seems like YFs themselves are acknowledging as head-hunting (I can’t judge as haven’t seen the replays) and it seems the Yanks are in a very very sad place.
    Let’s hope last night was the bottoming-out.
    Pi-ti-ful.

    IronHorse (yf) May 21, 2008, 4:26 am
  • I’ve always had no problem with revenge pitches, but not when they’re thrown at the head. Hawkin’s first attempted revenge pitch was lower, which is the way it should be. Throwing at the head is just downright lethal.

    Atheose May 21, 2008, 8:46 am
  • By the way, great snag at first base by Giambi last night. Small silver lining for YF’s?

    Atheose May 21, 2008, 9:10 am
  • If you want to have a quick laugh, check out NoMaas and LoHud, according to those two upstanding blog populations the headhunting is not only acceptable, but expected and required. My god.
    That was a tough one for you guys, hang in there.

    LocklandSF May 21, 2008, 9:14 am
  • Ap-a-thy: –noun, plural -thies.
    1. absence or suppression of passion, emotion, or excitement.
    2. lack of interest in or concern for things that others find moving or exciting.
    Don’t the Olympics start soon?

    krueg May 21, 2008, 10:33 am
  • I got home at 9pm to see a huge lead, so I didn’t watch the alleged headhunting.. I think it wouldn’t be that bad to hit someone in general though – maybe it’ll get the Yanks fired up.

    Lar May 21, 2008, 11:03 am
  • Girardi needs to go out there on a bad call and get fired up and get himself ejected. That worked for the Cubs last season, and I seem to remember Torre doing the same right before the Yanks bounced back.

    Atheose May 21, 2008, 11:27 am
  • That’s the funniest image/headline combo ever.

    Paul SF May 21, 2008, 11:43 am
  • After Hawkins missed him the 1st time, he should have let it go. He proved his point, he stood up for his Captain, let it go. But oh no Hawkins wanted to make sure Luke Scott reeeaaaalllllly got the point. If he had left it at the 1st brushback I am fine with it. I don’t think it was necessary, because Jeter is a diver after all, but I could have lived with it. Unfortunately Hawkins went back for seconds and it looks like a desperate move on the Yankees part. Stop searching for “The” moment that turns the season around, you can’t force it. Girardi doesn’t need to get ejected, Duncan doesn’t need to do his king fu slide routine, they just need to get the ball rolling, no antics needed!
    Anyway, on a positive note I found out today that I will be at the All-Star Game.

    John - YF May 21, 2008, 1:12 pm
  • John – How many of your children did you have to sell to get tickets? (I’ve only got two, wondering what my chances are…)
    I have no problem with a revenge plunking but NOT near the head. An acquaintance of mine was hit in the head (accidently) in a fast pitch softball game last summer and just came out of the hospital a month ago, still can’t speak normally.

    rootbeerfloat May 21, 2008, 1:22 pm
  • RBF, I am all out of children my wife and I are going to have to start from scratch! LOL. They were actually a gift, so I know nothing about where they are and so on.
    Throwing near the head is never cool. I play fast pitch and have been trying to push for helmets and been unsuccessful. I am really sorry to hear that about your friend RBF.

    John - YF May 21, 2008, 1:26 pm
  • Baseball is turning into the NHL…instigator rule = suspensions for throwing, not hitting, at batters. I think it sucks. We’ve all had the argument about the Yankees getting nailed all the time with no reprisal. Taking that side of the game out of the players hands is a stupid and irresponsible reponse to the bitching by groups that look to “pussify” America! You didn’t have hockey players hatcheting other players in the head with their sticks when the “enforcers” were laying down the lay on the ice. Now, you can’t do anything without a suspension and the aggression builds up…same in baseball. How about Clemens last year getting tossed after the Jays threw at ARod TWICE and hit him the SECOND time. How was their pitcher not tossed??? Let the players settle it and things would be fine…
    *disclaimer- of course you don’t want to hit someone in the head, but flying one over the noggin isn’t necessarily a bad thing if you want to send a message in my humble opinion. Not as close as Farns-worthless to Manny, more like Joba to Youk…

    krueg May 21, 2008, 3:33 pm
  • some points of interest i’ve seen floating across yankee boards today…..
    gardner is going to save this team.
    cabrerra was clearly throwing at jeter.
    sometimes one message isn’t enough.
    a team built with 200 million dollars needs a fight or an ejection to make them want to play.
    all hope is lost.
    it truly is a good day to be sox fan (or a yankee hater).

    sf rod May 21, 2008, 5:22 pm
  • “but flying one over the noggin isn’t necessarily a bad thing”
    This is just crazy. It’s not ok to throw at or near a person’s head in my book, ever.

    LocklandSF May 21, 2008, 5:51 pm
  • Difference of opinions Lock…that’s all that is.

    krueg May 21, 2008, 5:57 pm
  • > but flying one over the noggin isn’t necessarily a bad thing
    It was not to be over Luke Scott’s noggin’ except for the fact that Scott quickly and fortunately removed said noggin’ to a position slightly below the space that the ball desperately and immediately was destined to occupy for a short while.

    attackgerbil May 21, 2008, 6:05 pm
  • Well said AG.

    Atheose May 21, 2008, 6:20 pm
  • AG- didn’t see the play…gave examples of my opinion on the matter. I am right. You guys are wrong. See how easy that was? :)

    krueg May 21, 2008, 6:38 pm
  • Heh… yeah, Krueg, I was thoroughly stupid and watched the game nearly front to back. Can’t get that time back… sigh.
    The first pitch, should it have been in the arm or the numbers, I wouldn’t have minded. Matter of fact, I think it would have been well-placed. The one right following the first brush – the pitch in question – was/is really hard to defend from my perspective.
    Oh well. Time to move on. Another game tonight.

    attackgerbil May 21, 2008, 6:44 pm

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