Return of the Hero: DRays-Yanks Gamer II

Rain yesterday dashed Andy Pettitte’s first attempt at a return to the Bronx. Tonight the forecast is for gray skies and cool air, but no falling liquids. That’s good news for Yankee fans, who are sure to make an old friend field warm, and not such great news for the Tampa batters, whose hands will be buzzing from contact with the lefty’s heavy sinking stuff. On the hill for the DRays is righty Jay Seo, who was 1-8 for Tampa last season, and gave up five first inning runs in his last spring training start. Bombs away!

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  • By the way, the Sox just joined the Yanks in a tie for first place…

    Hudson April 5, 2007, 5:59 pm
  • The weather’s been very erratic today. One second it was snowing, another it was sunny. Definitely not an optimal day though.. but goooooo Yankees!

    Lar April 5, 2007, 6:00 pm
  • not andy’s fault the d-rays are undermanned.

    sf rod April 5, 2007, 6:10 pm
  • No Johnny in the lineup.
    Tampa Bay
    C. Crawford lf
    B. Zobrist ss
    J. Gomes dh
    T. Wigginton 1b
    D. Young rf
    E. Dukes cf
    A. Iwamura 3b
    B.J. Upton 2b
    J. Paul c
    NY Yankees
    R. Cano 2b
    D. Jeter ss
    B. Abreu rf
    A. Rodriguez 3b
    J. Giambi dh
    H. Matsui lf
    J. Posada c
    D. Mientkiewicz 1b
    M. Cabrera cf

    attackgerbil April 5, 2007, 6:17 pm
  • i think the yanks are still in first. 1.000 winning % vs .666
    not that it matters at all!

    sam YF April 5, 2007, 6:21 pm
  • Ha SFrod! The Jays are undermanned in the pitching dept. that lineup is actually kinda fun to watch, if immature.

    YF April 5, 2007, 7:05 pm
  • Standing O for AP. WELCOME BACK ANDY.

    YF April 5, 2007, 7:08 pm
  • Stand up baby!

    walein April 5, 2007, 7:08 pm
  • Fist pitch strike. He’s worth it. Then a comebacker for the first out. Welcome back, Andy.

    attackgerbil April 5, 2007, 7:10 pm
  • chopper back to andy!

    m.g. yanks fan April 5, 2007, 7:10 pm
  • The slow strike calling ump…this could get a little wacky.

    walein April 5, 2007, 7:11 pm
  • Grounder back to AP! Seems like old times! 1 down.

    YF April 5, 2007, 7:11 pm
  • Always nice to keep Carl Crawford off the basepaths.

    Whatever April 5, 2007, 7:11 pm
  • Andy’s got a perfect game thru .1!

    walein April 5, 2007, 7:12 pm
  • Andy, DO NOT try to field with your throwing hand!!!!

    attackgerbil April 5, 2007, 7:12 pm
  • Crowd looks like they’re dressed for a Giants game in December.

    Whatever April 5, 2007, 7:12 pm
  • Another grounder, 4-3. Yep, that’s Pettitte. 2 down.

    YF April 5, 2007, 7:12 pm
  • The Nation is sort of like Bizarro world. 1.000 = .667 when the Sox have the .667.

    john April 5, 2007, 7:12 pm
  • Too much of the plate on that offering to Gomes.

    Whatever April 5, 2007, 7:13 pm
  • Johnny Gomes ropes a double roped to left.

    attackgerbil April 5, 2007, 7:13 pm
  • 2b for gomes on the high pitch, but wiggs flies to right. 3 down.

    YF April 5, 2007, 7:13 pm
  • Wigginton flies to right to end the inning.

    attackgerbil April 5, 2007, 7:14 pm
  • Nice efficient pitch count for the 1st.

    Whatever April 5, 2007, 7:14 pm
  • Quick work in the first from Andy.

    attackgerbil April 5, 2007, 7:15 pm
  • would rather have dj leading off but no biggie. cano safe on the infield hit.

    YF April 5, 2007, 7:17 pm
  • Weak grounder from Robi takes a really bad hop; Zobrist recovers well but pulls Wigginton off the bag; Robi safe on E6.

    attackgerbil April 5, 2007, 7:17 pm
  • Did they rule that a single? Volume is off here. Looked like they would have had him with the good throw. That’s a home field call by the scorer I think.

    attackgerbil April 5, 2007, 7:18 pm
  • dj short fly to center after the bunt attempt. would rather not see the bunt in the first.

    YF April 5, 2007, 7:19 pm
  • Not sure what Abreu was trying to accomplish with that bunt attempt.

    walein April 5, 2007, 7:19 pm
  • YF: agreed.

    attackgerbil April 5, 2007, 7:20 pm
  • abreu follows with another short fly opposite field.

    YF April 5, 2007, 7:21 pm
  • Abreu lifts it hight to Crawford for the second out.

    attackgerbil April 5, 2007, 7:21 pm
  • Interesting comments by Joe G about Pettite. It sounds like Cash may have known what he was doing when he let Andy go AND when he gave him $16 million to come back.

    john April 5, 2007, 7:22 pm
  • rappin’ with the gerb on a game thread. life is good. things are as they should be.
    glad the season is finally back underway.

    YF April 5, 2007, 7:22 pm
  • im liking joe girardi as a broadcaster so far. nice to have good scouting reports from someone still current in his knowledge of the league. Basically anything that reduces the amount of yapping Kay does is fine by me.

    sam YF April 5, 2007, 7:23 pm
  • AROD!!

    m.g. yanks fan April 5, 2007, 7:24 pm
  • ARod with the shot off the wall. 1-0

    Whatever April 5, 2007, 7:24 pm
  • ARod takes it outside for ball one. The 1-0 is a change (I think) swung on and missed. The 1-1 from Seo is low away. A 2-1 breaking pitch is pulled foul. Deuces: Robi was running but ARod fouls it back right. The next 2-2 is lifted to the track. Dukes misplays it. Robi scores, Arod into second with what probably is E8.

    attackgerbil April 5, 2007, 7:24 pm
  • long double off the wal in right centerl for Alex plates Robi. I think we may be in store for another mvp season. he’s looking great.
    dukes might have had that but still quite a long fly.

    YF April 5, 2007, 7:25 pm
  • Giambi up. He takes ball one. Cano was ruled a single, ARod’s was ruled a double. Don’t know if I agree. It’s 1-2 to Giambi. two outs. Lifted to Dukes in right center for the third out. End of 1; TB 0, NYY 1.

    attackgerbil April 5, 2007, 7:26 pm
  • Okay fellas, gotta sign out and ride home. Take it easy. Go Yankees.

    attackgerbil April 5, 2007, 7:27 pm
  • If A-Rod keeps this up and Andy has the year Joe thinks he may we could be in first all year.

    john April 5, 2007, 7:27 pm
  • dammit…i can’t get this game because of bpud…i’m counting on you guys to keep me plugged in…help…

    dc April 5, 2007, 7:27 pm
  • agreed on girardi. he’s a nice knowledgable presence, if a bit humorless/earnest. a nice addition. wish kitty were still around to provide some more color/history/fun.
    i miss kitty.

    YF April 5, 2007, 7:27 pm
  • Okay, I take it back. Just saw the replay. ARod’s was definitely a double.

    attackgerbil April 5, 2007, 7:30 pm
  • pettitte rolling. 6-3.

    YF April 5, 2007, 7:30 pm
  • damn, what’s going on?…screw bpud!…

    dc April 5, 2007, 7:30 pm
  • Sawed Young off for the 1st out. Jammed Dukes for the 2nd out. Andy looking good early.

    Whatever April 5, 2007, 7:31 pm
  • dc: Did you see today that InDemand got the deal done with MLB? If you are cable, you’re back in bidness.

    attackgerbil April 5, 2007, 7:32 pm
  • 4-3. that’s 4gbs.

    YF April 5, 2007, 7:32 pm
  • bb. kay pontificating on the wonders of ap’s pickoff move.

    YF April 5, 2007, 7:35 pm
  • Was that Chuck Knoblach at 2nd?

    Whatever April 5, 2007, 7:36 pm
  • Cano shows his fantastic range but then loses the ball. 1st and 2nd.

    YF April 5, 2007, 7:37 pm
  • Single over Jeets for Paul. Onesies.

    YF April 5, 2007, 7:40 pm
  • Damn, the walk comes around to score. So what else is new?

    Whatever April 5, 2007, 7:41 pm
  • thanks for the update ag, but the bummer is that i’m with dishnet [story of my life…always on the outside, looking in], but they told me yesterday to wait a week, they are “hopeful”, we’ll see….i either get it from them, switch to one of the “lucky” providers, or move back to new england [not so bad]…bpud’s not one of my favorite people as you can probably tell….but you, whatever, sf, yf, nick, hudson, lar, sf rod, walein, john, d-1, trisk, and so on, are…thanks for the game threads guys…

    dc April 5, 2007, 7:42 pm
  • There’s a play that will be scored a wild pitch but that a non-lazy play by Posada might have prevented. That should be a passed ball.

    SF April 5, 2007, 7:43 pm
  • Ugh. Sacks juiced. Bad sequence of events after getting the first two outs.

    Whatever April 5, 2007, 7:44 pm
  • These last few pitches it has looked like Pettitte has really been aiming it in.

    SF April 5, 2007, 7:44 pm
  • Phew. Andy escapes further damage. We’ll take it.

    Whatever April 5, 2007, 7:46 pm
  • Mess. Upton out trying to score on a pitch that gets away. Rays had the bases loaded. AP ‘s pitch count already mid 40s. gonna need that bullpen today.

    YF April 5, 2007, 7:47 pm
  • Looked much better on those last two, good low-riding pitches towards the hitter’s knees.
    And a nice play by Posada/Pettitte to catch Upton trying to score on a squibber wild pitch away from Jose. Michael Kay very confident that it was the right call, and the replay (a great catch by the YES cameraman on the first base line shows it perfectly), backs him up. Nice tag by Pettitte.

    SF April 5, 2007, 7:49 pm
  • Also, good analysis from Girardi on the risk of the headfirst slide. I already like him better than his predecessors.

    SF April 5, 2007, 7:50 pm
  • Nice Posada swing to opposite field for the single.

    walein April 5, 2007, 7:52 pm
  • Jorge with the shot to left. 1 on, 1 out.

    Whatever April 5, 2007, 7:52 pm
  • Watch out. Meinkevitch might end up playing permanently if Torre sees another hit out of him.

    walein April 5, 2007, 7:53 pm
  • Minky with the baseknock. C’mon Melky…

    Whatever April 5, 2007, 7:53 pm
  • Cano jumps on the first pitch and strands two on a popup.

    SF April 5, 2007, 7:55 pm
  • Watch out. Meinkevitch might end up playing permanently if Torre sees another hit out of him.

    walein April 5, 2007, 7:55 pm
  • Yanks strand two. 1-1, to the third.

    Whatever April 5, 2007, 7:56 pm
  • oh typepad.
    i love you.

    walein April 5, 2007, 7:56 pm
  • This verify your comment popping up constantly stinks.

    Whatever April 5, 2007, 7:57 pm
  • Jorge! And who says Minky can’t hit! 2 on!

    YF April 5, 2007, 7:57 pm
  • Who’s that Gold Glovah out at shaht?

    SF April 5, 2007, 7:58 pm
  • Jeter catches up with A-Rod in the error department. One more by either and they are even with Lowell.

    Hudson April 5, 2007, 7:58 pm
  • E Jeter. Grr.
    The verfy thing we’re working on. this is ridiculous.

    YF April 5, 2007, 7:59 pm
  • Wish we could help with the comment verification thing, but it’s a Typepad automatic annoyance: we can’t turn it off and even us Admins have to put in these stupid passwords. Sorry.

    SF April 5, 2007, 7:59 pm
  • They need to give Gerardi a taser he can use on Kay when Kay talks–at all.

    walein April 5, 2007, 7:59 pm
  • Can I just say that I love baseball in high definition?

    SF April 5, 2007, 8:00 pm
  • SF reminds me of a vulture, waiting to pounce on Yankee shortcomings.

    Whatever April 5, 2007, 8:00 pm
  • That was not Posada’s fault. This converation is stupid. Thanks to Singleton for pointing that out.

    walein April 5, 2007, 8:02 pm
  • WE: I am praiseworthy when it’s deserved. I have said good things and bad so far, check the comments. What’s wrong with that?!

    SF April 5, 2007, 8:02 pm
  • Big strike out of Gomes.

    Whatever April 5, 2007, 8:03 pm
  • Ty Wigginton, your Devil Rays cleanup hitter.
    I am glad I am not a Devil Rays fan.

    SF April 5, 2007, 8:04 pm
  • sf, you’re mean and you know it…what’s going on?…curse you pbud selig!!!!!

    dc April 5, 2007, 8:07 pm
  • That was a bad pitch to Delmon.

    walein April 5, 2007, 8:07 pm
  • Pettitte isn’t looking very sharp. To be fair, its pretty cold out there, but his control is looking pretty lacking.

    mattymatty April 5, 2007, 8:08 pm
  • Definitely seems to be communication issues between Petitte and Posada…

    ToddSF April 5, 2007, 8:10 pm
  • Another ugly inning. 1 run, but the dp ends it.
    yankees making too many defensive errors thus far, and in the first game as well.

    YF April 5, 2007, 8:10 pm
  • Dukes has been arrested 6 times? Yikes. He must feel right at home in that ski mask.
    Andy needed that DP to say the least.

    Whatever April 5, 2007, 8:10 pm
  • Jeter gets it started.

    Whatever April 5, 2007, 8:11 pm
  • SF: i’m carping again to typepad, see if we can this thing toned down. they gotta listen to the people.

    YF April 5, 2007, 8:12 pm
  • Does a single make up for an error that led to a run, VORP-wise?

    SF April 5, 2007, 8:12 pm
  • Damn, Abreu smokes one that Crawford runs down.

    Whatever April 5, 2007, 8:13 pm
  • Carp away, YF. I don’t know what they are going to do. I wish there was more manual control over this feature.

    SF April 5, 2007, 8:15 pm
  • screw baseball…you may have lost a lifer bpud

    dc April 5, 2007, 8:16 pm
  • Dammnit!

    walein April 5, 2007, 8:17 pm
  • Seo changing speeds well and keeping the Yanks off balance. Andy needs to have a good inning.

    Whatever April 5, 2007, 8:19 pm
  • Eskimos in the stands

    Whatever April 5, 2007, 8:23 pm
  • Where was that?!

    Whatever April 5, 2007, 8:23 pm
  • Nice 1-2-3. Needed that.

    Whatever April 5, 2007, 8:24 pm
  • can someone please explain the penguin at yankee stadium.

    sam YF April 5, 2007, 8:26 pm
  • Matsui reaches on the bad flip that causes Seo to miss the bag. Jorge dialed in at the plate. Basehit. 1st and 3rd. No outs.

    Whatever April 5, 2007, 8:30 pm
  • You can not stop Minky; you can only hope to contain him.
    Bottom of the order coming thru. twosies.

    YF April 5, 2007, 8:31 pm
  • Minky on fire. Heh. Scores Hideki on the bloop to center. 2-2.

    Whatever April 5, 2007, 8:32 pm
  • Melster moves those runners. That’s why you don’t bunt!

    YF April 5, 2007, 8:32 pm
  • Robbie pokes one to center. 3-2, Yanks.

    Whatever April 5, 2007, 8:33 pm
  • Cano bloops one to center. Everything dropping in front of Dukes.
    Singleton schooling Kay on the waste of the bunt.

    YF April 5, 2007, 8:33 pm
  • whoa! Bowa with the sweet grab!

    YF April 5, 2007, 8:35 pm
  • Jeter hits into the fc, beats out the throw and gets Minky home. Nice. 4-2.

    YF April 5, 2007, 8:36 pm
  • Jeter forceout, but good hustle avoids the DP and a run scores. 4-2 Yanks.

    Whatever April 5, 2007, 8:36 pm
  • Derek thrown out trying to steal 2nd, on a very close play.

    Whatever April 5, 2007, 8:38 pm
  • Derek is killing me.

    walein April 5, 2007, 8:38 pm
  • Jorge putting some white out on the fingers to help Andy with the signs. A lot of cross ups, wild ones, and passed balls thus far. maybe this will help.

    YF April 5, 2007, 8:41 pm
  • Infield single for Crawford. Guy can fly.

    Whatever April 5, 2007, 8:41 pm
  • Ugh. couple of infield singles and it’s 1st and 3rd.

    YF April 5, 2007, 8:43 pm
  • And that’s it for Pettitte. On comes the Proctologist. Not a brilliant outing, but not tragic either. Hopefully the boys can hold on.

    YF April 5, 2007, 8:44 pm
  • Zobrist promptly steals 2nd. So much for the DP.

    YF April 5, 2007, 8:46 pm
  • 9 baserunners in 4+ innings isn’t even a middling effort. The weather couldn’t have helped, and Pettitte will surely do better, but that was a crap start.

    SF April 5, 2007, 8:47 pm
  • Gomes Ks. After 1 batter, Proctor looking sharp. Good hard stuff, Gomes out fishing.

    YF April 5, 2007, 8:48 pm
  • That was a fantastic strikeout pitch from Proctor.

    SF April 5, 2007, 8:48 pm
  • 1-2 to Ty. Here comes the same hook?

    SF April 5, 2007, 8:49 pm
  • Sac fly scores Crawford, Zobrist takes third. Wild pitch or passed ball ties the game.

    SF April 5, 2007, 8:51 pm
  • it’s cold. it’s april. the defense was sloppy. lots of room for improvement. pettitte had trouble missing bats; balls over the plate were hit hard. that’s a but worrisome, but really nothing to lose sleep over at this point.
    sac fly for the rays scores 1. wp brings home the tying run. foursies. ugh.

    YF April 5, 2007, 8:52 pm
  • First sooth of the year!

    SF April 5, 2007, 8:52 pm
  • Did they not go over fundamentals this spring?

    Anonymous April 5, 2007, 8:53 pm
  • Wow, what a pick by Posada and then a super throw to catch Delmon Young.

    SF April 5, 2007, 8:54 pm
  • Another defensive miscue. Minky can’t bring in the 1 hopper from jeter. shoulda been a better throw—though that was a toughie. and minky coulda had that. he’s not exactly looking like a defensive genius over there.
    young cs by jorge. great throw from posada. wow.

    YF April 5, 2007, 8:54 pm
  • That was just a tremendous play by Posada. The pick on the ball in the dirt completely escaped Kay, and his release to second was like lightning. Great stuff.

    SF April 5, 2007, 8:57 pm
  • Minky was stretched to the max trying to keep his foot on the bag on a wicked one hopper. Lousy throw from Jeter. Can’t blame Doug.

    Whatever April 5, 2007, 8:58 pm
  • Abreu works the leadoff walk. Whipping boy at the plate.

    SF April 5, 2007, 8:59 pm
  • Abreu bb. Jorge definitely bailed out the infield there. though it’s been a mess behind the plate all game. not all his fault on that, though. would be interesting to hear some of the conversations in the clubhouse after the game.

    YF April 5, 2007, 8:59 pm
  • Can the Yankee announcers possibly kiss Jeter’s ass any more? Its cold, its hard to grip the ball. Blah blah blah blah… Cry me a river, people. Everyone on the field is playing in the same conditions, and no one else has two errors.
    Here comes the Rays bull pen. For those unfamiliar, this is the modern equivalent of the Keystone Kops.

    mattymatty April 5, 2007, 8:59 pm
  • Why is Seo still in there for the Rays? He got whacked around in the 4th, and just walked Abreu… His pitch count is still low, but he’s been struggling mightily for the past 6-8 batters…

    Hudson April 5, 2007, 9:00 pm
  • A-Rod just missed a big, fat, hanging meatball, then grounds into a double play on the next pitch. A fickle minority of Yankees fans pepper the stadium with boos.

    SF April 5, 2007, 9:00 pm
  • Monster cut by Alex on 1-2, then hits into the 5-4-3. Alex just missed there. He’s locked in. Rays better hope they don’t see him with runners on next time around.

    YF April 5, 2007, 9:01 pm
  • You know the difference between A-Rod and Jeter? Jeter beat out the double play throw by a 1/2 inch, while A-Rod got thrown out by a 1/2 inch. That and Jeter’s two errors. Oh, and A-Rod’s MVP.

    mattymatty April 5, 2007, 9:02 pm
  • Monster cut by Alex on 1-2, then hits into the 5-4-3. Alex just missed there. He’s locked in.
    Huh? He missed a fatty by at least a few inches, then GIDPd. What at-bat did you watch?

    SF April 5, 2007, 9:03 pm
  • Giambi goes down.
    If you’re Maddon, what do you pull Seo for? It’s ugly out there in the Ray pen.

    YF April 5, 2007, 9:03 pm
  • Huh?

    Whatever April 5, 2007, 9:04 pm
  • Talk about a frozen rope.

    Whatever April 5, 2007, 9:07 pm
  • “Elijah Dukes has skills.” – M.C. Michael Kay two second before Dukes hits one through a fan in the left field stands.
    Man, what happened to Jeter’s range? He can’t get to anything today. Must be because its cold out.

    mattymatty April 5, 2007, 9:07 pm
  • elijah keeps calling this passover. liner over the leftfield wall. damn.

    YF April 5, 2007, 9:07 pm
  • Dukes’ hit looked like a single off the bat, or maybe even a lineout. Over the wall, though?!?!

    SF April 5, 2007, 9:14 pm
  • I second that Matty, Jeter’s range has been absolutely brutal tonight.

    sam YF April 5, 2007, 9:17 pm
  • Christ. Myers floats one right down the middle for Crawford. And now he stays in for Zobrist. Not a huge Myers fan here.

    YF April 5, 2007, 9:18 pm
  • Coulda been worse. 4 innings to come back.

    Whatever April 5, 2007, 9:20 pm
  • Jeter cheats a bit on the rundown, tagging with his glove even as he has the ball in his right hand, lest there be a play at home, but he brings the two hands together a bit as he comes to make the tag so it’s hard to know.

    YF April 5, 2007, 9:20 pm
  • sf: the ball just jumps off dukes bat. kid’s got serious pop. gotta be a dark horse non-dice roy candidate.

    YF April 5, 2007, 9:23 pm
    1. The Yanks are going to win this sloppy game.
    2. What’s the final word? Will Chumley’s come down?
    john April 5, 2007, 9:24 pm
  • Another hit for Jorge.

    Whatever April 5, 2007, 9:25 pm
  • jorge really off to a nice start this year with the bat.

    YF April 5, 2007, 9:25 pm
  • He should wear the ski mask all year, even in the dog days. It could become a kind of signature sinister-slash-mysterious eccentricity, formulating a “Legend of Elijah”, like Zorro with a bat instead of a blade.

    SF April 5, 2007, 9:26 pm
  • Doesn’t sound like it, John. A chimney collapse inside Chumley’s. See Curbed here:

    SF April 5, 2007, 9:28 pm
  • so much for that inning.
    looks like the chumley’s building will survive, not so sure about chumley’s. hope so.
    a lot of history in that joint, for this nyer in particular. and they make a mean burger.

    YF April 5, 2007, 9:30 pm
  • Jeez. Dukes strikes out looking—twice.

    YF April 5, 2007, 9:40 pm
  • Top of the order coming up. Gotta get something goin’…

    Whatever April 5, 2007, 9:41 pm
  • Jeter singles after the Cano grounder to 2nd.

    YF April 5, 2007, 9:47 pm
  • Abreu rips one to right. Here comes Alex!

    YF April 5, 2007, 9:49 pm
  • YF with the chance for sooth…

    SF April 5, 2007, 9:50 pm
  • Alex up in a big spot…2 on…

    Whatever April 5, 2007, 9:51 pm
  • Alex drills one to the righfield corner on 3-1. Jeter advances.

    YF April 5, 2007, 9:53 pm
  • It was a nice at-bat from Alex.

    YF April 5, 2007, 9:53 pm
  • Yes, he was really locked in on that 265 foot flyout.

    SF April 5, 2007, 9:55 pm
  • Sacks juiced…C’mon Hideki

    Whatever April 5, 2007, 9:55 pm
  • Giambi walks on 4 pitches. Lugo didn’t want much of Giambi.

    YF April 5, 2007, 9:55 pm
  • Jeebus, I see what y’all mean about the DRays’ pen. The Yankees will probably win this one, even with me rooting against yuz with all my might…

    Hudson April 5, 2007, 9:56 pm
  • Banzai! Tie game!

    Whatever April 5, 2007, 9:57 pm
  • Matsui single to right ties it!
    SF: It was a solid swing on a low middle pitch. he drove it to the outfield on 3-1. you can’t homer every at bat.

    YF April 5, 2007, 9:57 pm
  • (And that was posted just *before* Godzilla tied the game up.)

    Hudson April 5, 2007, 9:57 pm
  • Giambi pulled for Cairo. Not crazy about that with 2 outs. And that’s why. Now Phelps is our dh, one assumes.

    YF April 5, 2007, 9:59 pm
  • I should note that earlier today, on the sox thread, i was being chastised for the tone of my comments by sf. and here he is, captain whiner, trying to rain on our comeback and smearing our superstar thirdbase god. not working!

    YF April 5, 2007, 10:02 pm
  • Nice piece of hitting from Iwamura.

    SF April 5, 2007, 10:03 pm
  • Iwamura gapper. The Rays took some crap for this signing, but the guy’s been impressive so far. Not that it’s been so far.

    YF April 5, 2007, 10:04 pm
  • Upton, who through the first four pitches looked completely overmatched, shoves one over Cano and into right for a single, Iwamura holds at third.

    SF April 5, 2007, 10:06 pm
  • WTF is Josh Paul doing?!

    SF April 5, 2007, 10:09 pm
  • These DRays are refusing to die…

    Hudson April 5, 2007, 10:11 pm
  • How many wild pitches and passed balls in this game?

    john April 5, 2007, 10:12 pm
  • Posada really slow behind the plate again, and the ball goes to the backstop, DRays on to 7-6. Playing in this cold cannot be fun, and it looks like it’s definitely affecting the Yankees negatively. Either that, or they just plain old suck in the field.

    SF April 5, 2007, 10:12 pm
  • Three Yankee pitchers have had passed balls tonight… Odd.

    Hudson April 5, 2007, 10:12 pm
  • paul looking like he’s going to have trouble getting it out of the infield, and then viz throws one past Jorge to the screen, bringing home the go-ahead.
    this is painful. 2nd game in a row of dreadful baseball from the yanks.

    YF April 5, 2007, 10:12 pm
  • and now a walk.

    YF April 5, 2007, 10:13 pm
  • Sorry, that’s three wild pitches and one passed ball for the Yankees.

    Hudson April 5, 2007, 10:13 pm
  • I said it earlier, but the YES camerawork is really superb.

    SF April 5, 2007, 10:15 pm
  • wow this bullpen is so great

    Anonymous April 5, 2007, 10:15 pm
  • House of ca–. Sorry, had to catch myself there.

    SF April 5, 2007, 10:16 pm
  • Vizcaino battling back, but man that’s some shitty situational hitting from the DRays.

    SF April 5, 2007, 10:17 pm
  • Is that snow, or mosquitos?!

    SF April 5, 2007, 10:18 pm
  • And Viz closes it down. Only 1 run. Here we go. 6 outs.

    YF April 5, 2007, 10:21 pm
  • Shakey pitching and horrible defense. Yanks are lucky there only down by one.

    Whatever April 5, 2007, 10:24 pm
  • Minky with the leadoff BB.

    Whatever April 5, 2007, 10:25 pm
  • Lovely work from Stokes there. Leadoff walk for Mientkiewicz.
    This D-Rays bullpen is going to blow a ton of games this year, methinks.

    SF April 5, 2007, 10:25 pm
  • Snow squall!!!

    SF April 5, 2007, 10:25 pm
  • Nice game from Minky, save for the crap defense. Walks to lead off the 8th. Snow really coming down at the stadium.
    Melky lays down a crappy bunt and Minky’s forced at 2nd. ENOUGH WITH THE FRIGGIN BUNTS ALREADY.

    YF April 5, 2007, 10:26 pm
  • Cano picking up right where he left off in 06, drills one to right through the infield. Hate that effing bunt.

    YF April 5, 2007, 10:27 pm
  • Robbie with his 3rd hit. C’mon Derek…

    Whatever April 5, 2007, 10:28 pm
  • you’d hate the bunt less if he swung and grounded into a DP :p

    Anonymous April 5, 2007, 10:29 pm
  • “Hate that effing bunt”
    No kidding. Torre!!

    Whatever April 5, 2007, 10:29 pm
  • Bad decision by pitcher…..

    Triskaidekaphobia April 5, 2007, 10:31 pm
  • God, what was Stokes doing there? He had a good deal of time to get Jeter at first, particularly when you see the replay from behind home plate. Stupid.

    SF April 5, 2007, 10:31 pm
  • Brainlock from Stokes on the combacker. Easy play at first, but he goes to third. All safe. Loaded for Abreu w/ 1 out.

    YF April 5, 2007, 10:31 pm
  • A-Rod…..Can he….

    Triskaidekaphobia April 5, 2007, 10:32 pm
  • And he makes the right decision on that one. Easy force at home. Here’s Alex.

    YF April 5, 2007, 10:32 pm
  • Stokes returns the comebacker to Paul for the second out. For a second there I thought he might go straight to first, particularly after that last play. That would have been funny. And moronic.

    SF April 5, 2007, 10:33 pm
  • The Yanks got away easy there, making up one run on these guys shouldn’t be too difficult… Mo in the 9th, I assume?

    Hudson April 5, 2007, 10:33 pm
  • I smell monster homer.

    SF April 5, 2007, 10:33 pm
  • A-Rod’s chance to set the tone for 2007.

    john April 5, 2007, 10:34 pm
  • Headlines here he comes.

    Triskaidekaphobia April 5, 2007, 10:34 pm
  • I said 2007, not 2006.

    john April 5, 2007, 10:35 pm
  • gets a good pitch at 1-0 and grounds it lightly foul up the third base line, then pops to 2nd. Boo birds in force.
    that sucked.

    YF April 5, 2007, 10:35 pm
  • SF isn’t there a Sawwwwx rewind you could be watching in NESN? LOL You Jinx.

    Triskaidekaphobia April 5, 2007, 10:35 pm
  • Or not.

    Whatever April 5, 2007, 10:35 pm
  • I mean, monster popup. 46 of the 944 fans remaining at the Stadium hoot.

    SF April 5, 2007, 10:35 pm
  • Farnsinator.

    YF April 5, 2007, 10:38 pm
  • A-Rod ‘opts out’ of making the cltch game-winning hit.

    Dionysus April 5, 2007, 10:39 pm
  • I guess it’s okay to critique the Yanks/Sox during their respective game threads. I’ll keep that in mind in the future.

    Whatever April 5, 2007, 10:39 pm
  • Farnsworth with some very stylish specs. What is he, an architect?

    SF April 5, 2007, 10:40 pm
  • we gave up an out on that inning with that failed bunt.
    dukes walks after farns puts down the first two batters.
    giambi’s slot up next for the yanks. i assume we’ll see phelps pinch for cairo, but joe does love him some vets. kay didn’t mention who was in the on deck during the alex at bat.

    YF April 5, 2007, 10:43 pm
  • An architect? No, he’s not THAT MUCH of a jerk!

    YF April 5, 2007, 10:44 pm
  • It’s now or never…

    Whatever April 5, 2007, 10:44 pm
  • Nothing better than slow, sloppy baseball in the snow.

    SF April 5, 2007, 10:45 pm
  • Can’t wait for the next Sox thread….

    Triskaidekaphobia April 5, 2007, 10:47 pm
  • Phelps it is, and he ks.

    YF April 5, 2007, 10:49 pm
  • Can’t wait for the next Sox thread….

    SF April 5, 2007, 10:50 pm
  • Matsui down 4-3.

    YF April 5, 2007, 10:51 pm
  • how was first place?

    Anonymous April 5, 2007, 10:52 pm
  • So I can pester the Sox fans with nonsense comments….Why else SF?

    Triskaidekaphobia April 5, 2007, 10:52 pm
  • i think he means, sf, because you can dish it out but you can’t take it..
    Jorge ends it on the fly to right.

    YF April 5, 2007, 10:52 pm
  • I could gloat, but I won’t. Just liek I said for my own team’s opener.. bad games happen. Neither the Sox nor the Yanks will win 162 games. They WILL battle it out to the wire.
    But Im still happy for the loss.. and not above making that ONE snide A-Rod joke

    Dionysus April 5, 2007, 10:53 pm
  • My favorite five Red Sox words, “sole possession of first place”!

    Hudson April 5, 2007, 10:54 pm
  • Who’s talking nonsense? I’ve been at this thread the entire game, and haven’t really said anything indefensible. It was YF himself who said this:
    “this is painful. 2nd game in a row of dreadful baseball from the yanks.”
    One loss and you go get all surly on us!

    SF April 5, 2007, 10:55 pm
  • Boy, that was one ugly game. The Yankees stunk in every aspect of the game except their hitting, and that failed when they needed it too. One to forget.

    Whatever April 5, 2007, 10:55 pm
  • Let this be a lesson, don’t piss on our parade and we won’t tap dance on your grave.

    LocklandSF April 5, 2007, 10:56 pm
  • What did I dish out, exactly? Other than disagreeing about A-Rod’s contact on that flyball to right, we’ve said about the exact same thing almost consistently tonight, YF.
    You guys are really testy. Yeesh.

    SF April 5, 2007, 10:57 pm
  • A- I am rarely surly, but especially not after 2 games.
    B- Why can’t people just admit to being needlers when they needle? The needling is so very slight, but still needling. This way if they get called out they can flip it onto the accuser as him being sensitive.

    Triskaidekaphobia April 5, 2007, 10:59 pm
  • I didn’t notice any Yankee fans pointing out Sox shortcomings this afternoon on the Sox-KC game thread, but that’s OK.

    Whatever April 5, 2007, 11:02 pm
  • Parade? Don’t go planning any parades after 2 games in KC. But just a side note we are from NY, we generally piss where we want.
    How many times, honestly, do we need to see KC Royal highlights? Daisuke will be good, possibly very good, but for Pete’s sake the media is actually making me want him to fail miserably and that’s not like me. Did we really need to hear from John Pharrel, who every he is???

    Triskaidekaphobia April 5, 2007, 11:04 pm
  • Trisk, I was barely needling tonight. I surely needle, but if we need to illustrate some really good needling, then we’re going to need a better thread than this one for that purpose. Again, YF and the rest of the YFs participating on this thread didn’t really disagree about anything of substance w/r/t to the game, so just because I said some negative things about the Yankees (and I said negative things about the Rays too) doesn’t mean it’s anything but observation. We had a disagreement about A-Rod’s contact on one fly ball, and also on how good (or bad) a start Pettitte made, but that’s just subjective analysis. Needling would have been bringing up Dice-K, or Pettitte’s contract vs. performance.
    I admit, I made a joke about Jeter’s fielding, but water is wet, right?

    SF April 5, 2007, 11:05 pm
  • I didn’t notice any Yankee fans pointing out Sox shortcomings this afternoon on the Sox-KC game thread, but that’s OK.
    There weren’t any.
    Oh, and clearly you have ignored YFs backhanded compliments of Daisuke’s great effort against the physically disabled Royals.

    SF April 5, 2007, 11:07 pm
  • Whatever, are you kidding? YF very clearly pointed out that Matsuzaka only did well because it was a weak KC team, because of course they suck, unlike the mighty Tampa Bay team you faced tonight.

    LocklandSF April 5, 2007, 11:08 pm
  • and the house of cards comment….yadda yadda yadda. wouldn’t be a thing if i wasn’t getting chipped at for my comments earlier.
    annnnnyway. ugly night of ball. hopefully the yanks figure out how to play defense by tomorrow.

    YF April 5, 2007, 11:09 pm
  • I for one wouldn’t know since I have no need to visit a Sox game thread…but hey you may be right ;)

    Triskaidekaphobia April 5, 2007, 11:09 pm
  • Hard for me to judge since I only saw 400 highlights of the Sox game, but it looked like Daisuke faired very well. Any fan, Yankees or otherwise that think the Royals are pushovers need to watch a Royals game and get a wake up call. They are drastically better then last season. They are certainly young, but they can really hit.

    Triskaidekaphobia April 5, 2007, 11:12 pm
  • Aw, jeez, that HoC thing was a FRICKIN JOKE, and it was obvious when I put it up!!! You know, the way I cut off the words and caught myself (using a hyphen to indicate that). You’re seriously using that as an example? Come on, YF!! You didn’t even note it earlier as a faux pas or as a serious dig. Now you bring that back up as an example of my lack of manners? To quote a great New Yorker: you cannot be serious!

    SF April 5, 2007, 11:12 pm
  • Trisk, I used the words parade and grave, do you actually think I meant them literally? I was making a point. I’m not planning any parades and I’m sure you’re not buying a grave plot after just a couple games.

    LocklandSF April 5, 2007, 11:13 pm
  • Goodnight! As much fun as this is I need to try and catch Sportscenter one last time before bed. I hear they are interviewing the parking attendant who parked Daisuke’s car this afternoon. Apparently he has the inside scoop on his performance and the Gyroball! Wooohaaa!

    Triskaidekaphobia April 5, 2007, 11:16 pm
  • Dog Bites Man: sox fans complain about yank fans needling sox fans before feigning ignorance about why sox fans aren’t showing a double standard when they needle yank fans.

    john April 5, 2007, 11:16 pm
  • sf: you can’t have it both ways. no “just because I said some negative things about the Yankees (and I said negative things about the Rays too) doesn’t mean it’s anything but observation”
    after you earlier wrote, per my comment regarding the royals offense, “that comment is offered only to provoke, not to offer anything much of use. ”
    you have the world’s most ginormous double-standard when it comes to your own behavior. pot meet kettle.

    YF April 5, 2007, 11:17 pm
  • And i say that with love, by the way.

    YF April 5, 2007, 11:19 pm
  • Lockland,
    I hung around for the game. After the game was over, I left, and am not aware of what was said after that.
    During the game, no Yank fans commented on Ortiz’s golden sombrero, Varitek’s and Crisp’s continued struggles at the plate, etc, which would have been easy to do.

    Whatever April 5, 2007, 11:19 pm
  • trisk: the royals, i would say, have the worst offense in the american league. they’re better than last year, but that’s faint praise. they’re moving in the right direction, though.

    YF April 5, 2007, 11:23 pm
  • YF:
    Seriously, give it up. This was a really good game thread, and the needling was at a minimum, far less than normal. And whatever was needling was pretty clearly in jest. Again, we agreed on almost everything (and those disagreements were simply subjective and defensible from both sides), so for you to all of a sudden characterize some of the comments as anything beyond simply humorous is disingenuous, particularly at this stage of the thread. It’s like you have this need to reinforce a stereotype or something. If you didn’t like the tone of my comments during the thread, then you should have said something. If you think me a hypocrite with a double standard, then you’ve got it all wrong. I am honestly trying not to be offended by this. There are probably a ton worse examples of SFs trolling Yanks game threads than this one, and vice versa, so to suddenly turn this specific one on it’s head and use that to reprimand me kind of stinks.

    SF April 5, 2007, 11:32 pm
  • “You have the world’s most ginormous double-standard when it comes to your own behavior.”
    I noticed this my very first visit to YFvsSF several years ago. But getting SF to remotely admit that this might be even slightly true would be like pulling teeth.

    Whatever April 5, 2007, 11:33 pm
  • Guys, seriously. Can you please read this thread from the start, and then judge whether I was some sort of bomb-throwing troll, or even a subtly needling Sox-rooting dickbag? I think I made a number of comments (like the House of Cards one, which referred back to a previous joke I made to YF about a moratorium on the use of that term and which he obviously knew what I was referring to) that might be read as “needling”, in the most generous of terms. One comment was about Jeter but in the voice of a “Sully from Southie”, which, if you miss the joke of me channeling some serious chowderhead then, uh, jeez. My criticism about A-Rod had to do with a legitimate observation and disagreement with YF about the quality of his swing, and the other disagreement was about Pettitte’s start. Nothing untoward or indefensible. Other than that, I see nothing but observation and mainly agreement with the YFs participating about the sloppiness of the play and/or a couple of dandy plays by Posada.
    Frankly, I am sick of this kind of misrepresenation.

    SF April 5, 2007, 11:41 pm
  • no one’s misrepresenting you! you represent yourself perfectly.
    you’re welcome to join in the immense fun of picking on alex, and noting whatever weaknesses you see in our team, for they surely exist. needle at your leisure. i’m not offended by your comments. but you can’t make a flippant or chippy observation here AND castigate me for doing the same in the sox thread. and i didn’t even criticize the sox–i criticized the royals!

    YF April 5, 2007, 11:53 pm
  • and i didn’t even criticize the sox–i criticized the royals!
    ha! That just might be the most disingenuous comment of the entire night. You really expect anyone to believe that you were actually digging at the Royals? For what?
    If a Sox fan wrote “Jeter couldn’t even nail that slowpoke Hafner on that simple ground ball” would you interpret that as a dig at Jeter or a criticism of Hafner’s running ability? Who are you kidding, YF?

    SF April 6, 2007, 12:43 am
  • not andy’s fault the d-rays are undermanned.

    sf rod April 6, 2007, 3:56 am
  • i have to admit even i was uncomfortable reading both game threads this morning…to see sf and yf, who i understand are good friends, going at each other off the topic was troubling at least…needling and snide remarks are to be expected in this kind of forum…it goes on all the time, so these threads were no different…sf and i have had our issues in the past [mostly misunderstandings]…so what?…we haven’t let those episodes affect future interactions, and i think we still have a healthy respect for each other…
    i think you need to consider the intent…comments made in jest vs. those made to provoke [or piss off], are usually easy to differentiate…it would be in the best interests of the conversation to measure our responses accordingly, but we don’t always do that in the heat of battle…we also tend to overuse the “hot” buttons: my favorites are insults and name-calling used to bait someone into taking the conversation down to the lowest level…other strategies include, “jeter/varitek-bashing”, “sf’s/yf’s are hyper-sensitive/arrogant”, and other forms of off topic clatter….with the exception of name-calling and insults, which i refuse to engage in [still surprised it’s tolerated], i’m as guilty as everone else, so i’ll limit the lecture to simply stating that anyone who won’t admit they engage in one or more of these activities on occasion is full of s—, or it’s become such an inherent part of how they deal with people, they don’t recognize it…nuff said…play ball

    dc April 6, 2007, 9:43 am
  • comments made in jest vs. those made to provoke [or piss off], are usually easy to differentiate
    Excellent point, dc. In this thread, I don’t really think I made any of the latter, which is why I took offense to the characterization applied to me.

    SF April 6, 2007, 9:49 am
  • As one that was in the middle of the interaction and finger pointing between Yank and Sox fans last night, I didn’t take the comments between them, and especially between YF and SF to be all that vindictive or full of animosity. Note YF’s comment at 11:19 p.m. Despite the disagreements and hurt feelings, the tone of discourse never sank to name calling or questions of one’s intelligence.
    When things aren’t going well for your team, you don’t mind other fans of your team complaining about the team’s lousy play, but to have fans of the “other” team come along with remarks, some observatory and some smartass, well, sometimes it can be a little too much to take. This goes for both sides.
    However, that’s the whole theme of this site. The fact of the matter is, we walk a fine line here, being in partnership with our most hated rival. It is what it is. And were only 2-3 games into the season. Heh.

    Whatever April 6, 2007, 10:20 am
  • sf, it kills me to have to agree with you ;-) but alas, i have to agree with you [this time]…i took it all in jest, and i knew you meant it that way…darnit, i meant to put that point in my post…you can chalk a lot of it up to a person’s frame of mind at the time as to how they take a comment…there are times when my nose is out of joint, and i should stay away from this site at those times…i refuse to get despondent over 1 game, and if the yankees suck, you have an obligation to needle me about it…

    dc April 6, 2007, 10:24 am
  • Where there’s smoke there’s fire.

    john April 6, 2007, 1:06 pm
  • Sniff..sniff.sniff…ah-choo..cough..cough..cough.

    Whatever April 6, 2007, 1:20 pm
  • Great post by dc at the end of the firefight there. Good follow-up by Whatever as well.

    Devine April 6, 2007, 1:37 pm
  • Oy! There’s a Sox game on in like 6 minutes…anyone gonna get a thread started? (I hope to pay a bit more attention at work here today, but would still like to have the contact available.)
    Might throw this in another thread just to be sure someone sees it.

    Devine April 6, 2007, 2:00 pm

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