Rivarly > Hype: Yanks-Sox Gamer II

Today is Saturday, April 21st 2007 and the New York Yankees and Boston Red Sox each have 147 games left to play in the regular season, an interesting thing to remember considering last night’s game felt like something out of a series played in the third week of an October.  Fenway will certainly be electric as it ever has been today as New York and Boston take the field in game two of the three-game series and fans of both teams marvel at (and lament) the events witnessed last night.

Boston sends Josh Beckett to the mound, undefeated in three starts, having allowed only one run in each of those games, and sporting a very sexy 0.83/.159 WHIP/BAA.  New York’s first experience with 2003-Beckett still turns the stomach of this fan, but since then the Yankees have had some success against the Sox righty.  However, Beckett has given up only one home run, a solo shot, in eighteen innings.  New York counters with Jeff Karstens, who is joining the active roster for the first time this season after having suffered elbow stiffness.  On April 16th in his first appearance off the DL, Karstens threw four scoreless innings with three hits for Class A Tampa.  In 2006, Karstens appeared in eight games, starting six, for the Yankees, winning two and losing one with a 3.80 ERA in 42 and 2/3 innings; the right-hander did not face Boston.  X-rays of Jorge Posada’s bruised thumb came back negative, but reports say it is likely Posada will not be seen for the rest of this series.  If something happens to Nieves, Josh Phelps may put on the pads.

Baseball’s best rivalry battles on. Lineups in the extended, comment away.

Bat Player Pos Avg
1 28 Melky Cabrera CF .207
2 2 Derek Jeter SS .318
3 53 Bobby Abreu RF .339
4 13 Álex Rodríguez 3B .371
5 25 Jason Giambi DH .271
6 24 Robinson Canó 2B .283
7 11 Doug Mientkiewicz 1B .139
8 19 Kevin Thompson LF .250
9 26 Wil Nieves C .000
Red Sox
Bat Player Pos Avg
1 23 Julio Lugo SS .259
2 20 Kevin Youkilis 1B .241
3 34 David Ortiz DH .291
4 24 Manny Ramírez LF .189
5 7 J.D. Drew RF .375
6 25 Mike Lowell 3B .296
7 33 Jason Varitek C .244
8 10 Coco Crisp CF .192
9 13 Álex Cora 2B .333
285 comments… add one
  • Enjoy it. I get the Cubs and Cardinals today.

    I'm Bill McNeal April 21, 2007, 2:26 pm
  • Wow. Johnny Damon out with back problems. And Torre playing the ol’ “Well they play the same position, lets bat them in the same spot in the order” game, sticking Melky in the leadoff spot. And Dougie M is getting the start. So, four regulars who can hit.
    Beckett’s not gonna have any excuses…unless his name is A-Rod.

    desturbd1 April 21, 2007, 2:30 pm
  • Bill McNeal — Do you have the MLB package? They’re not listing the Yankee game, but does Fox really block it when they don’t show it?
    Matsui, Damon and Jorgie out? Oh boy.

    john April 21, 2007, 3:20 pm
  • Jeter-Abreu-Alex-Giambi-Cano…that’s 5 wise guy.

    Triskaidekaphobia April 21, 2007, 3:21 pm
  • John: Yes, Fox has an exclusivity deal with MLB on all games before 5pm eastern (I think.. might be 4pm) on Saturday. This deal was extended after last season, much to everyone’s (except Rupert and Bud’s) chagrin.

    Anonymous April 21, 2007, 3:27 pm
  • anonymous was me.

    attackgerbil April 21, 2007, 3:28 pm
  • Most teams would be ecstatic to have Jeter/Abreau/ARod/HGHiambi/Cano in their lineup, so let’s not have to o many excuses from the YFs, please…

    Hudson April 21, 2007, 3:30 pm
  • HGHiambi…..classy.

    Triskaidekaphobia April 21, 2007, 3:33 pm
  • Well, I was wrong about the time frame. Here’s what wiki sez about the blackouts:
    1. Local broadcast and cable stations which contract with a team to show their games in the local market have priority to televise those games over national broadcasters (assuming that the national broadcaster does not have exclusive rights to the game, as discussed below.) If ESPN telecasts a game, and the game was scheduled to be telecast by the local rights holder, the game will be blacked out on ESPN in that market (usually replaced by ESPNEWS). Similar blackouts occur on other networks which telecast nationally, such as TBS and WGN, although these would be considered local broadcasts in Atlanta and Chicago respectively since the networks only cover their local team (the game would be blacked out in the opponents market only.)
    Also, ESPN’s blackout zone is larger than that of the superstations.
    2. The Fox network has exclusive nationwide rights for MLB games on Saturdays between 1:00 PM ET and 7:00 ET and ESPN has the same rights for games on Sunday after 8:00 PM ET. Games beginning in these periods of exclusivity can only be telecast by the network holding the exclusive national rights (although games that run long, such as extra inning games that run past 7 PM ET on Sundays, are not cut off. Also, ESPN sometimes waives this for the Texas Rangers, as extremely hot weather in their market usually requires playing at night for safety reasons). For FOX, this generally applies to one time-slot per market, since its coverage is not usually a doubleheader. Thus, local television coverage is allowed during the other time-slot, but the game will not air on MLB Extra Innings. Starting with the new MLB TV contract in 2007, TBS will telecast a Sunday afternoon game-of-the-week, but no nationwide exclusivity is granted to the network. The same contract will grant Fox more flexible start times for broadcasts and may expand the window of exclusivity.

    attackgerbil April 21, 2007, 3:36 pm
  • >>>>HGHiambi…..classy.<<< If you're worried about "class," be worried about the character of a guy who would cheat with performance enhancement drugs... not the class of some random fan on the internet.

    Hudson April 21, 2007, 3:42 pm
  • It’s true, even with Damon and Posada out, this is still one of the best lineups Boston has faced so far this season.
    I hope Beckett gets pounded, but won’t be surprised if he goes 7 with some easy 1-2-3 innings facing the bottom of that order.

    Andrew April 21, 2007, 3:56 pm
  • Heh, apparently I forgot how to count. Was kinda on the way out the door, though, in my defense.
    No fan of any team is allowed to get mad at other teams for making fun of more or less confirmed steroid users. I mean if there’s anything in the world that should be fair game, it’s that.

    desturbd1 April 21, 2007, 3:57 pm
  • hello all… been a frequenter of this site for awhile now, but haven’t been home for a live game. can’t think of a better one to start with, if nobody objects…
    go yanks!

    nyara April 21, 2007, 3:59 pm
  • Nasty strikeout to Leche

    Rob April 21, 2007, 3:59 pm
  • Watching on Gameday as I wait tensely for my dentist to call back about a refill on my painkillers (don’t think tomorrow will be a good day unless I have some more vicodin…the Sox could help me a bit, though). Really, REALLY hoping my dentist calls. This tooth removal stuff is quite the ordeal.
    Cabrera K’s.

    Devine April 21, 2007, 4:00 pm
  • Wow, Beckett touched 98 on the strikeout pitch.

    Scott SF April 21, 2007, 4:00 pm
  • C’mon Jeter, steal, we need all the runs we can get.

    Andrew April 21, 2007, 4:01 pm
  • The one concession McCarver ALWAYS makes to the Yankees is that Derek Jeter’s “in&out” swing BLOWS. HIS. MIND.

    walein April 21, 2007, 4:01 pm
  • Imagine if the Yanks had kept Sheff and batted him in front of ARod. He would have some killer stats right now also.

    Rob April 21, 2007, 4:01 pm
  • Abreu putting down a classic Abreu at bat.

    walein April 21, 2007, 4:02 pm
  • Devine…wisdom tooth?

    Rob April 21, 2007, 4:02 pm
  • Ouch, that looked like a strike.

    Andrew April 21, 2007, 4:02 pm
  • Stupid Beckett…
    That 3-1 pitch was strike 2. Bullsh*t.

    desturbd1 April 21, 2007, 4:02 pm
  • Rob…yep.

    Devine April 21, 2007, 4:02 pm
  • Shef is stinking up may right now…big time (he’s on my fantasy team and Magglio is no Jason Varitek ;))

    walein April 21, 2007, 4:03 pm
  • “Abreu putting down a classic Abreu at bat.”
    Whatever. First three were nowhere near the plate, so congrats on holding off there Bobby. And the fourth was borderline at best. Hehe…

    desturbd1 April 21, 2007, 4:03 pm
  • You may want to try placing a teabag there. Something in tea that numbs the area and helps pull the moisture/blood.

    Rob April 21, 2007, 4:04 pm
  • You don’t lead the majors in pitches seen by mistake d1.

    walein April 21, 2007, 4:04 pm
  • Giambi will get an rbi here or walk.

    walein April 21, 2007, 4:05 pm
  • Hadn’t seen Sheff yet…
    Nice K on A Rod

    Rob April 21, 2007, 4:05 pm
  • Is it too early to pray that that soft liner with the game on the line last night was the end of the hot-as-the-core-of-the-sun streak?

    desturbd1 April 21, 2007, 4:05 pm
  • I’m definitely considering it…for right now, the ibuprofen and codeine/vicodin (I got bumped up to vicodin after the codeine wasn’t doing such a great job) can get me through tonight, but tomorrow may be a horrible day. Definitely will keep the teabag in mind, sir.
    Get Giambi!

    Devine April 21, 2007, 4:06 pm
  • And Beckett Ks Allmighty-Rod.

    Hudson April 21, 2007, 4:06 pm
  • Giambi with a beaut!

    walein April 21, 2007, 4:07 pm
  • Alright! Finally a break for the Yanks, those annoying flyballs that fall in kill.

    Andrew April 21, 2007, 4:07 pm
  • Walein, I was just f*cking around. I really dislike this umpire thus far though, that 2-1 should have been strike 2.
    And that’s about a sh*tty an rbi as there is in the game. Great f*cking outfield alignment there boys, made tons of sense. Unbelievable.

    desturbd1 April 21, 2007, 4:08 pm
  • Damn….

    Rob April 21, 2007, 4:08 pm
  • Tighten up Beckett

    Rob April 21, 2007, 4:09 pm
  • That was fair.

    walein April 21, 2007, 4:10 pm
  • Ooooohh a break for Beckett there. Looked like it went right over the base. NESN announcers agree.

    Andrew April 21, 2007, 4:10 pm
  • I think the Sox got lucky on that call

    Rob April 21, 2007, 4:10 pm
  • However, could Fox come up with a better angle?

    walein April 21, 2007, 4:10 pm
  • That might have been fair, but it was really fricken close. That’s a bad angle on the line there because anything near the bag’s going to look like it’s going over; the HP umpire should have had the best view.

    desturbd1 April 21, 2007, 4:11 pm
  • mccarver and buck agree too. rob job.

    nyara April 21, 2007, 4:11 pm
  • Awesome!

    walein April 21, 2007, 4:11 pm
  • Alright! Looks like Beckett is getting killed by those little pesky hits. Jeter, Giambi and now Cano.

    Andrew April 21, 2007, 4:11 pm
  • OK. So far absolutely everything going NY’s way. Great start.

    desturbd1 April 21, 2007, 4:12 pm
  • Damn Youk…you juked Cora!!

    Rob April 21, 2007, 4:12 pm
  • nice AB doug. way to work the count or be productive in ANY way.

    nyara April 21, 2007, 4:12 pm
  • Of course…now we all get to see Karstens…hopefully the whole “for the first time” thing benefits him for at least the first 2 times thru the lineup.

    walein April 21, 2007, 4:14 pm
  • So much for Josh’s sub-2.00 ERA.

    Hudson April 21, 2007, 4:15 pm
  • Okay, I admit it. Karstens has one of the ugliest faces in baseball.

    Andrew April 21, 2007, 4:15 pm
  • Haha Youk’s really into that introduction thing.
    I like missing the first pitch of an at-bat, thanks Fox. Fully expect Boston to either A: Look awful the first time through the order, or B: Hit him well but fail to score many runs.
    Though if they hit him well and score I’ll be pretty happy.

    desturbd1 April 21, 2007, 4:16 pm
  • Lugo gets it started with the single.

    Hudson April 21, 2007, 4:16 pm
  • I wonder if we have the makings of a playground fistfight here.

    Rob April 21, 2007, 4:16 pm
  • Not the best way for Karstens to get off, but at least it was on the ground. How ’bout a dp here!

    YF April 21, 2007, 4:16 pm
  • I like it. Keep ’em coming.

    Devine April 21, 2007, 4:17 pm
  • Can Karsten’s nickname be “Crazy face?” Or how about “Toothy?” Or “Badly in need of braces?”

    desturbd1 April 21, 2007, 4:17 pm
  • Yes…makings of a slobber knocker

    Rob April 21, 2007, 4:17 pm
  • Youks doubles, 2nd and 3rd, no out, MannyOrtiz comin’ up.

    Hudson April 21, 2007, 4:18 pm
  • Buck: Ortiz and Manny, best 3-4 combo in baseball. Okay. Except thus far it’s anyone hitting 3rd for the Yanks and A-Rod. But, yeah, we hear ya, joe.

    YF April 21, 2007, 4:19 pm
  • Karstens has the face of a younger, thinner David Weathers.

    walein April 21, 2007, 4:19 pm
  • Good pitch by Karstens…better patience by ORtiz.

    walein April 21, 2007, 4:20 pm
  • Hee hee. Yes.

    Devine April 21, 2007, 4:20 pm
  • Papi doubles, 2-2!

    Hudson April 21, 2007, 4:20 pm
  • Welcome, Jeff Karstens…..
    Abreu could have helped out a bit there.

    YF April 21, 2007, 4:21 pm
  • awesome

    Rob April 21, 2007, 4:21 pm
  • Bad positioning by Abreu. I mean, with the shift…if a grounder gets thru it gets thru.

    walein April 21, 2007, 4:21 pm
  • Papi! Papi! Papi! Papi!
    Karstens lucky that wasn’t worse, not a good pitch.

    desturbd1 April 21, 2007, 4:21 pm
  • He’s probably used to anything being hit that far in left field going over the fence (Yankee Stadium and Philidelphia’s box park)

    walein April 21, 2007, 4:22 pm
  • OK your boys scored on crappy OF positioning, too, so now we’re even.

    desturbd1 April 21, 2007, 4:22 pm
  • Great baserunning by Ortiz. Manny still looks awful…swinging through a belt-high 3-1 pitch.

    desturbd1 April 21, 2007, 4:24 pm
  • Not sure how that happened. How the hell does Ortiz get third without at least some kind of “play” at the base?

    walein April 21, 2007, 4:24 pm
  • Mr. Ramirez flies out, Papi to 3rd with a better slide than last night.

    Hudson April 21, 2007, 4:24 pm
  • Papi gets the “ugly slide” double last night and tags up just now. The guy must be wathing Wile E Coyote highlights in the clubhouse.

    Rob April 21, 2007, 4:24 pm
  • d1…Boston was positioned correctly…the hit blooped in.

    walein April 21, 2007, 4:25 pm
  • 9 times out of ten Giambi pulls pop ups to either straight center field or way close to the line right field.

    walein April 21, 2007, 4:26 pm
  • hosed.

    nyara April 21, 2007, 4:27 pm
  • Cano nails Papi! Nice play by Nieves.

    YF April 21, 2007, 4:27 pm
  • Someone needs to tell Papi he is not Lou Brock.

    Hudson April 21, 2007, 4:28 pm
  • McCarver was praying that a bad call was made there…and of course, with Ortiz’ obvious “I’m out” reaction, and the fact that David Ortiz should either stay where he is or start running with the pitch, Cano nails him!

    walein April 21, 2007, 4:28 pm
  • Lowell lazy fly.
    Back even after 1. Let’s get back at ’em.

    YF April 21, 2007, 4:29 pm
  • i’m stoked for the bottom of the order today. to the non-fan i bet it seems like a “who’s who” of, well, who?

    nyara April 21, 2007, 4:30 pm
  • Man, I bet we’ll be seeing Colter Bean before too long.
    Good thing for the Yankees that Ortiz is as slow as shit.

    Andrew April 21, 2007, 4:31 pm
  • Mark my words:
    The bottom of the line up will kill Beckett today.

    walein April 21, 2007, 4:32 pm
  • I swear I was sending that before the double.

    walein April 21, 2007, 4:32 pm
  • I swear I was sending that before the double.

    walein April 21, 2007, 4:33 pm
  • That was just a nice play by Cano. Ortiz isn’t at fault, grounder to the right side and you’re off on contact.
    And Beckett looks like shit. This is just fantastic. Leadoff double to a 5th OF. F*ck.

    desturbd1 April 21, 2007, 4:33 pm
  • Dammit, Josh. Come ON! I understand giving up hits to Jeter, but Kevin Thompson?

    mattymatty April 21, 2007, 4:34 pm
  • Over on the Banter, Cliff Corcoran writes the Sox have no excuse not to sweep this series, having stolen one away last night. He’s right, of course; the Sox have a big matchup advantage in the starting pitching. But it seems odd to me that those of us who take stats seriously constantly talk about “sample size” and how unpredictable the game is at micro level, and then we can write that the Sox “should” sweep two games from the Yanks, even as they have the advantage. We always catch ourselves saying what our teams “have” to do, and also what players “have” to do–“he’s GOT to get that run in from third with less than 2 outs”–but the truth is that men play these games, and there actions simply can’t be predicted at a small scale. And I suppose that’s why we’re all watching here. I don’t think the Red Sox think they’ve got these next two sewn up already.
    And, look at that, Yanks put the leadoff man in scoring postition.

    YF April 21, 2007, 4:34 pm
  • D1: Unfortunately, I have to listen to game on the radio today. Whats wrong with Beckett? Is his control just off so far?

    mattymatty April 21, 2007, 4:35 pm
  • WTF, Lowell?

    Hudson April 21, 2007, 4:35 pm
  • Look..the bad news bears showed up.

    Rob April 21, 2007, 4:36 pm
  • mccarver giving thompson all the credit on that one… pretty sure it was NOT an intentional ‘bait’.

    nyara April 21, 2007, 4:36 pm
  • Take the damn out, Lowell! Are we intent on losing today?

    mattymatty April 21, 2007, 4:36 pm
  • Did I not call this? Man, I am awesome!

    walein April 21, 2007, 4:36 pm
  • WIL NIEVES IS ON BASE! WIL NIEVES IS ON BASE! (granted, on an fc, but still…first time this year, i think!)
    Melkster! 3-2.

    YF April 21, 2007, 4:37 pm
  • Beckett and Karstens both have the same problem right now. They get two strikes and then get stupid and hang meatballs over the plate.

    Rob April 21, 2007, 4:37 pm
  • Single, 3-2 Yanks, 1st and 3rd, no outs.
    Beckett is a disaster so far today.

    Hudson April 21, 2007, 4:37 pm
  • Great work Lowell. Great fucking work. Doing your best Derek Jeter.
    Anyone who says, “Boston should be ashamed if they don’t sweep” is an idiot. Period. You can’t call for a sweep in baseball with any certainty regardless of the teams involved, and definitely not with NY’s offense involved. Just a really stupid comment designed so, after Boston “only” takes 2 or something, the author can point and laugh. Just asinine.
    And Mike Lowell costs Boston at least one run.

    desturbd1 April 21, 2007, 4:38 pm
  • No word on that “in&out” swing from McC.

    walein April 21, 2007, 4:38 pm
  • Double play, nice job by Cora, but the Yanks get another run, 4-2 NY.

    Hudson April 21, 2007, 4:38 pm
  • At least Jeter got the run in.
    Yanks getting runs against the Sox starters in this series. Not killing them, but there doesn’t seem to be an intimidation factor, fwiw.

    YF April 21, 2007, 4:39 pm
  • beckett at 43 pitches through 2.

    nyara April 21, 2007, 4:40 pm
  • Beckett Ks Abreu, but the damage is done. 43 pitches through 2, if he doesn’t settle down we may see most of the Sox pen today.

    Hudson April 21, 2007, 4:42 pm
  • I don’t think Beckett’s been a disaster. 5 hits, 4 singles and a 2B. One of the singles was a bleeding INF, the other a bloop in the OF, and Lowell’s error cost him the 4th run.
    Besides Thompson’s hanger, NY isn’t exactly teeing off. I’m still…sorta optimistic that he can go another 4 without giving up anything else.

    desturbd1 April 21, 2007, 4:42 pm
  • Te-K.

    Hudson April 21, 2007, 4:43 pm
  • Nice use of The Police’s “King of Pain” by FOX for their injury run-down.

    walein April 21, 2007, 4:43 pm
  • Crisp bunts safely, 3rd time in recent memory…

    Hudson April 21, 2007, 4:43 pm
  • Karstens needs to do a better job getting off the mound on a bunt. Nieves fielded the ball 6 feet from the mound. Not so good.

    YF April 21, 2007, 4:44 pm
  • crisp has been doing his best to save his job lately.

    nyara April 21, 2007, 4:44 pm
  • d1…Giambi is gonna put a hurting on Beckett in his next at bat. ;)

    walein April 21, 2007, 4:44 pm
  • Back-to-back…bunt singles!!

    Scott SF April 21, 2007, 4:44 pm
  • Another bunt. Cripes.

    YF April 21, 2007, 4:45 pm
  • >>>I don’t think Beckett’s been a disaster.<<< 4 runs in 2 innings is pretty awful by any standard... If not for the DP, he'd be in even worse trouble. Now Cora bunts safely. This is not the Red Sox I grew up with, but I like it...

    Hudson April 21, 2007, 4:45 pm
  • is this game sponsored by barnum & bailey?

    nyara April 21, 2007, 4:46 pm
  • WP, runners on 2nd and 3rd with one out for Julio.

    Hudson April 21, 2007, 4:46 pm
  • “d1…Giambi is gonna put a hurting on Beckett in his next at bat. ;)”
    What, not A-Rod? Heh…well I think Manny’s gonna bust out his next ab.

    desturbd1 April 21, 2007, 4:46 pm
  • Gator: How about we don’t do that anymore?

    walein April 21, 2007, 4:46 pm
  • Karstens looks like a scared, ugly little kid.

    desturbd1 April 21, 2007, 4:47 pm
    I almost went with him instead of Manny. Dammit.

    desturbd1 April 21, 2007, 4:48 pm
  • Well, that wild pitch/passed ball, cost them possibly 2 runs. Good playing by Boston to take advantage.

    walein April 21, 2007, 4:48 pm
  • Lugo grounds out productively, 4-3 NY, Cora on 3rd, two out for Youks, who singles and makes it 4-4 while I’m typing this…

    Hudson April 21, 2007, 4:49 pm
  • great insight there by the best color man in baseball about Youk’s last name. Thanks Tim

    sam YF April 21, 2007, 4:49 pm
  • Even again.
    Maybe the Yanks would like to let the Sox have a lead for a while. Seems like playing from in front isn’t exactly working out great….
    or not.

    YF April 21, 2007, 4:49 pm
  • Well, Beckett has few excuses now not to put himself back together and win this game… His teammates have picked up him twice.

    Hudson April 21, 2007, 4:50 pm
  • *whew*
    too close for comfort.

    nyara April 21, 2007, 4:50 pm
  • …good catch Abreu, though 0 style points for looking kinda goofy in the process. Just saved Karstens ass, that ball was absolutely hammered.

    desturbd1 April 21, 2007, 4:51 pm
  • Abreu made that interesting. Woof. Papi gave it a ride too. The best contact the Sox make is an out, and they score 2 runs on some junk and a single. Not that they didn’t earn it, but, well, killing us softly.

    YF April 21, 2007, 4:51 pm
  • I guess no matter how hard Ortiz hits it’s considered a success for a pitcher to keep him within Massachusetts.

    walein April 21, 2007, 4:52 pm
  • And in the battle of the pitch counts, both pitchers are tied at 43. And Karstens has the worst Gameday picture, ever.

    desturbd1 April 21, 2007, 4:53 pm
  • Allright A Rod. Let’s get some pressure on the bases!

    walein April 21, 2007, 4:54 pm
  • Alex no problem with Beckett there. Leadoff 2b.

    YF April 21, 2007, 4:55 pm
  • I guess keeping A-rod in the ballpark is considered a success too.

    sam YF April 21, 2007, 4:55 pm
  • manny just cracks me up. through the wickets!
    smoked double for arod; here we go…

    nyara April 21, 2007, 4:55 pm
  • Beckett getting squeezed…A-Rod’s inhuman.

    desturbd1 April 21, 2007, 4:55 pm
  • Huh…who knew that A Rod could opt out of his contract at the end of this year? Thanks for covering it FOX.

    walein April 21, 2007, 4:56 pm
  • Giambi ks looking.

    YF April 21, 2007, 4:57 pm
  • Beckett getting all kinds of outrageously inconsistent calls. Giambi down on a low strike…after taking a ball that was then called a strike in the second pitch.

    Anonymous April 21, 2007, 4:57 pm
  • To be fair, anon, it’s hurting him about as often as it helps. But I guess that’s what you mean by inconsistant…also that 3rd strike was lower in the zone then the ball was, I think.

    desturbd1 April 21, 2007, 4:59 pm
  • How about the Yankees keeping A Rod because he’s one of the greatest players to play the game?

    walein April 21, 2007, 4:59 pm
  • Cano at least moves Alex. Ugh.

    YF April 21, 2007, 5:00 pm
  • And this is where the injuries really hurt NY coming into today…I just feel AWFUL for you guys. ;-)
    Though somehow I’m not convinced Doug won’t do the impossible and bloop a single or sneak one through a hole. Because it feels like that kind of day.

    desturbd1 April 21, 2007, 5:00 pm
  • Minky goes for a ride, but that’s all.

    YF April 21, 2007, 5:02 pm
  • That was me D1. I agree…except, Beckett’s pitches aren’t mostly just missing…he’s leaving alot over the plate.

    walein April 21, 2007, 5:06 pm
  • Karstens is getting away with a lot today…fuck.

    desturbd1 April 21, 2007, 5:06 pm
  • Man. Manny is just so sick. Thank God they made that part of the park super deep.

    walein April 21, 2007, 5:06 pm
  • …ugh, Lowell jammed just enough to keep it off the wall.

    desturbd1 April 21, 2007, 5:10 pm
  • Another ball smoked, right at Abreu. Irritating…

    desturbd1 April 21, 2007, 5:12 pm
  • yikes. karstens flirting with disaster… none of those outs were relaxing.

    nyara April 21, 2007, 5:12 pm
  • Nice pitching by Karstens there in the 3rd. I am impressed with this kid’s poise.

    sam YF April 21, 2007, 5:13 pm
  • Wow what a play by Beckett. Holy hell.

    desturbd1 April 21, 2007, 5:16 pm
  • maybe the most awkward rendition of ‘happy birthday’ i’ve ever heard.

    nyara April 21, 2007, 5:17 pm
  • There. The backups gone on 8 pitches. That’s the way he’s supposed to do it.

    desturbd1 April 21, 2007, 5:18 pm
  • two stellar defensive plays.
    not much you can do about that.

    nyara April 21, 2007, 5:18 pm
  • Atta boy Crisp, nice piece of hitting. Maybe he is finally breaking out.

    desturbd1 April 21, 2007, 5:21 pm
  • Nice ab by Lugo to plate the runner at third. Karstens not getting hit hard this inning, but he made his own mess letting Crisp get that big a jump from first.
    Youk does his thing.

    desturbd1 April 21, 2007, 5:26 pm
  • Papi! That ball was CRUSHED!!

    desturbd1 April 21, 2007, 5:28 pm
  • Finally…Papi goes yard.

    Rob April 21, 2007, 5:28 pm
  • Ortiz…finally gets it out.

    walein April 21, 2007, 5:29 pm
  • Ramirez is getting close also.

    Rob April 21, 2007, 5:30 pm
  • I guess Manny doesn’t look awful…last two ab’s were really close.

    desturbd1 April 21, 2007, 5:31 pm
  • Do they run Karstens back out again? Or turn over to the pen?

    Rob April 21, 2007, 5:32 pm
  • No Moose next weekend?…interesting.

    Rob April 21, 2007, 5:34 pm
  • Good question, he’s been pretty bad today. I’d say he’s actually been worse then the 7 runs allowed, too…
    Worth noting is that Chris Britton was optioned to make room for Karstens. Assuming Vizcaino is unavailable, that leaves Bean, Proctor, Henn, Bruney, and Farnsworth in the bullpen. It’s only the fifth, so if they pull Karstens now, whoever comes in better do a nice job or else we could see a lot of relievers.

    desturbd1 April 21, 2007, 5:36 pm
  • Wow, A-Rod missed a mistake pitch. That’s the first time that’s happened all month.

    desturbd1 April 21, 2007, 5:36 pm
  • Unless we get a rainout this week, we should send Dice-K, Wake and Tavarez to the mound next weekend.

    Rob April 21, 2007, 5:37 pm
  • “Seems interesting to talk about an American Revolution here in Boston”

    desturbd1 April 21, 2007, 5:39 pm
  • Keep hitting and scoring boys. Do not want to have the Yanks pull an end around on us.

    Rob April 21, 2007, 5:42 pm
  • And he talks abotu Pettite NOT being a guy who goes deep into game.
    Sure seems liek he has to me.. and I’m a Sox fan!

    Anonymous April 21, 2007, 5:43 pm
  • Ugh, Crisp’s had a nice game but that was not a good ab. Bruney missed badly there, too.

    desturbd1 April 21, 2007, 5:50 pm
  • is it wrong to wish bad things upon mccarver and buck’s family.

    sf rod April 21, 2007, 5:53 pm
  • Have to give Coco a pass on that one

    Rob April 21, 2007, 5:53 pm
  • Well Mccarver is one thing…Buck is annoying by association with him.

    Rob April 21, 2007, 5:54 pm
  • Bruney already close to 20 pitches…Cora not making life easy for this bullpen.
    And no, it’s never wrong to wish ill upon McCarver and Buck. In fact, few things in life are more right. :)

    desturbd1 April 21, 2007, 5:55 pm
  • I hate to agree with anything McCarver or Buck say, but it is nice that the #9 hitter is making a pitcher work. Make the Yanks burn through that bullpen!

    Ayuh - SF April 21, 2007, 5:56 pm
  • Would have liked another run there, but still a productive ab. 2 batters, 20 pitches for Bruney. Let’s keep the bullpen gate open.

    desturbd1 April 21, 2007, 5:57 pm
  • but …..on their family….it runs that deep.

    sf rod April 21, 2007, 5:58 pm
  • how was that a strike?

    sam YF April 21, 2007, 5:59 pm
  • Beckett is definitely in a groove now. Maybe the key is to get him a 3 run lead every time out.

    Ayuh - SF April 21, 2007, 5:59 pm
  • oh boy, here comes doug…

    nyara April 21, 2007, 6:01 pm
  • …I feel like Manny could have had that ball. Though I suppose that if he’d gone for it and failed, Cano would be on third, at least.

    desturbd1 April 21, 2007, 6:01 pm
  • nice AB from doug. why is phelps not in still?

    sam YF April 21, 2007, 6:02 pm
  • Is anyone up in the Boston pen? Beckett’s under 90 pitches, so if he takes care of Thompson I see no reason to pull him right now.

    desturbd1 April 21, 2007, 6:03 pm
  • sam- they gave an extra pitch to kevin to make up for the knee buckler to giambi.

    sf rod April 21, 2007, 6:05 pm
  • After a missed strike call by the ump, Beckett gets K no 7.

    Dionysus April 21, 2007, 6:05 pm
  • Two strike threes in that last at-bat…the second was more borderline than the first. Make-up call.
    I really think Beckett’s thrown better then the scoreboard indicates today. The rough early going wasn’t nearly as rough as one might think, and he’s been fantastic since the 2nd.

    desturbd1 April 21, 2007, 6:05 pm
  • another standing O for mo. so much classier than curtain calls.

    sf rod April 21, 2007, 6:07 pm
  • attackgerbil April 21, 2007, 6:11 pm
  • I think the Ump has been crap on both sides. He has called a bad game all around.

    sam YF April 21, 2007, 6:11 pm
  • > standing O for mo
    Gotta love that Beantown sarcastic humor. I’m serious about that, BTW.

    attackgerbil April 21, 2007, 6:12 pm
  • That is good for the Yanks..They need him bad right now. I just cannot see the Yanks going with this set of pitchers all year. Reminds me of the Sox last year.

    Rob April 21, 2007, 6:12 pm
  • Hit and run prevents the DP; it’s 6-3 to make it one out with a man on second as Sean Henn will face Papi.

    attackgerbil April 21, 2007, 6:13 pm
  • Yes AG it is. The funny thing is that he smiles and laughs about it.

    Rob April 21, 2007, 6:13 pm
  • God that sucked, Rob.
    Last years rotationw as a never ending nightmare. I loathed that rotation.
    Also, have I ever mentioned how much I HATE David Wells?

    Dionysus April 21, 2007, 6:15 pm
  • ag- i equally enjoy the fact mo tipped his hat again. i’m sure he is a good guy.

    sf rod April 21, 2007, 6:15 pm
  • No doubt, Rob. Mo has a great sense of humility and humor.

    attackgerbil April 21, 2007, 6:15 pm
  • Yeah he’s been incredibly inconsistant so far. I do think that was a strike, but it hasn’t always been.

    desturbd1 April 21, 2007, 6:17 pm
  • throw some bats about it papi.

    sf rod April 21, 2007, 6:17 pm
  • Very close call on Ortiz there, but Papi’s got to defend that pitch.

    attackgerbil April 21, 2007, 6:17 pm
  • Mo is definately a guy who is very humble and thankful for where he is. Never cocky, just goes out and gets the job done. There are a number of player in the bigs who could attend a “class” class by him.

    Rob April 21, 2007, 6:18 pm
  • Heh, that was supposed to be in response to sam…didn’t see the 7 posts since.
    Really hope Beckett’s coming back out there for the 7th.

    desturbd1 April 21, 2007, 6:18 pm
  • Right call to IBB Manny as Drew flies out to left to end the inning.

    attackgerbil April 21, 2007, 6:19 pm
  • Drew trying to use that wall. Good idea, just didn’t get enough on it.

    desturbd1 April 21, 2007, 6:20 pm
  • Mo is.. I must agree.. a good guy. I ahte seeing him on the mound so much it burns (except last night, when I loved it), but one of the ‘good ones’.
    I think you give Beckett another inning. Any hit chases him though

    Dionysus April 21, 2007, 6:21 pm
  • It’s Nieves, Cabrera, Jeter facing Beckett as we head to the top of seven.

    attackgerbil April 21, 2007, 6:22 pm
  • Maybe I’m wrong but I’m not too impressed with the sox offense. I feel like the yanks will be fine as the season goes on.

    SeanYF April 21, 2007, 6:23 pm
  • Nieves down on the 4-3. Cabrera jams a pop to third; Lowell fields for 2 away.

    attackgerbil April 21, 2007, 6:23 pm
  • I said this yesterday too but does Okajima have the biggest mitt in baseball?

    sam YF April 21, 2007, 6:24 pm
  • This definitely seems like a different Josh Beckett, and not just in terms of his command thus far and pitch selection. I don’t remember him ever getting off to a sorta rough start like he did today, only to come back and turn things around for 4 or 5 more innings. He either mowed em down or got blown out of the game before 6.
    Stupid GB singles…not that we haven’t had our share.

    desturbd1 April 21, 2007, 6:24 pm
  • Sean: What? They scored seven runs. Do that, you normally win.
    Jeter gets a dribble single to the left of Cora in the hole between 1st and second.

    attackgerbil April 21, 2007, 6:25 pm
  • Once some of the people start hitting in Boston (the usual slow starters) the offense will be fine.
    The Yanks have a similar problem with the pitching that should work itself out.

    Rob April 21, 2007, 6:27 pm
  • I’m guessing it’s the ol, “But it wasn’t a quality pitcher,” deal. I suppose they should have scored 10 or 12.
    C’mon Beckett…f*cking end this already…

    desturbd1 April 21, 2007, 6:27 pm
  • Damn….Farrell out to talk to Beckett

    Rob April 21, 2007, 6:28 pm
  • Walk A-Rod?

    sam YF April 21, 2007, 6:28 pm
  • McCarver says switch, and since I already felt like Beckett’s the better option, I’m sticking with that.
    He’s still throwing 95…McCarver’s a f*cking idiot.

    desturbd1 April 21, 2007, 6:29 pm
  • This is what I was starting to think about 2 innings ago

    Rob April 21, 2007, 6:29 pm
  • Walk to Abreu. Arod up. Takes ball one.

    attackgerbil April 21, 2007, 6:30 pm
  • ARod rips a single to left to score Jeter.

    attackgerbil April 21, 2007, 6:31 pm
  • Okajima in?

    Rob April 21, 2007, 6:31 pm
  • Well, I was wrong. F*ck. Bad pitch and he didn’t miss it.

    desturbd1 April 21, 2007, 6:31 pm
  • to right rather.

    attackgerbil April 21, 2007, 6:31 pm
  • I woulda switched once Jeter weas aboard. Now we are in trouble.
    2 run game? Ugh
    Okajima worked alot last night…

    Dionysus April 21, 2007, 6:33 pm
  • Thanks to Bud Selig, I haven’t seen this game, but that’s 5 runs off Beckett with Damon, Matsui and Jorgie not playing — maybe I was right Paul?

    john April 21, 2007, 6:33 pm
  • McCarver is still wrong, though he appeared right. There’s no way you pull Beckett against ARod right there, considering Josh’s track record against Alex.

    attackgerbil April 21, 2007, 6:33 pm
  • Here comes Oki…if he can end it here, Boston gets the 6-7-8 and 9-1-2 through the last two innings.

    desturbd1 April 21, 2007, 6:33 pm
  • Okajima is a good example of how good pitchers have the upper hand when the hitters don’t know them. In Japan he was not a 1 run era pitcher and he won’t be here over time.

    john April 21, 2007, 6:34 pm
  • john, if you’d watched the game you’d have a different impression. A couple of bloops and bleeders going our way and this is a QS. He didn’t throw badly overall, but he did make a few bad pitches and paid for them.

    desturbd1 April 21, 2007, 6:35 pm
  • Okajima is friggin money.

    Rob April 21, 2007, 6:36 pm
  • Okajima is the fucking MAN! Giambi couldn’t see a damn thing.

    desturbd1 April 21, 2007, 6:37 pm
    Saves Beckett’s butt!
    How do you say “Yankee Killer” in Japanese?

    Dionysus April 21, 2007, 6:37 pm
  • Proctor in to try and protect the 2-run defecit. Bottom of the order up, but for once, they don’t look like a black hole.

    desturbd1 April 21, 2007, 6:39 pm
  • Tek is on fire.

    attackgerbil April 21, 2007, 6:40 pm
  • Another loud out from Lowell…ugh.
    Tek is heating up. 2/4 with a hard-hit liner right at Abreu. Great to see.

    desturbd1 April 21, 2007, 6:41 pm
  • The Cubs game is over and they’re still not putting the Yankees on Fox!

    john April 21, 2007, 6:43 pm
  • Tek warming up..Coco warming up. Good signs, now if Manny would heat up a little bit we would start to score a little more.

    Rob April 21, 2007, 6:43 pm
  • God DAMMIT! So f*cking close again.

    desturbd1 April 21, 2007, 6:43 pm
  • Tek love hitting vs. the yankees. Even in his bad year last year, he still hit us hard.
    As for Okajima, he looked good but this is the first time anyone is facing him. Adjustments will be made. I think its a bit early to call him a yankee killer…

    sam YF April 21, 2007, 6:44 pm
  • Oki does have nasty stuff, though, that’s not gonna change. The K/9 will probably drop a little below the 13 or whatever it’s at now, but I think he’s legit as a setup guy.
    Now lets tack some on…Proctor is not sharp.

    desturbd1 April 21, 2007, 6:46 pm
  • Over time, Okajima and Matzusaka are not going to have eras way under their Japanese eras.

    john April 21, 2007, 6:47 pm
  • Now Fox is showing the Yankee – Sox lowlights, adding insult to injury.

    john April 21, 2007, 6:50 pm
  • True..Okajime is at the advantge right now…one enough film is compiled on him the “oddness” will wear off.

    Rob April 21, 2007, 6:50 pm
  • If we lose.. we are gonna regret not capitalizing there.
    Ok… so… Okajima for Cano, then Timlin?
    I’d rateh rOkajima lla the way but thats a bit much work for the guy

    Dionysus April 21, 2007, 6:52 pm
  • Over time, Andy Pettitte’s not going to have an ERA under 2. Doesn’t mean they’re not still good pitchers.
    And those idiot f*cking fans fail to keep Doug from making the catch. Ugh.

    desturbd1 April 21, 2007, 6:53 pm
  • Maybe Torre can pinch run for Giambi on the bench.

    walein April 21, 2007, 6:54 pm
  • And Beckett’s not going to have a 1.5 era. :-)

    john April 21, 2007, 6:56 pm
  • Ugh. I don’t like this move.
    I don’t have my confidence in Timlin back yet.

    Dionysus April 21, 2007, 6:56 pm
  • Me neither, but if he can’t keep Phelps, Thompson, and Nieves from scoring he doesn’t deserve a spot in the pen.
    I wonder if we’ll see Damon or Posada PHing? I expect Damon to hit for Melky regardless of what happens.

    desturbd1 April 21, 2007, 6:58 pm
  • By the way.. although Beckett gave up 5 runs, 4 earned.. and raised his ERA by a run, I’d liek to point this one thign out.
    Remember what killed him last year?
    The long ball.
    What did we NOT see tonight off him?
    That’s right. The long ball.
    So… a much improved ERA at the end of the season, I predict for him.
    Oh god.. Timlin. I’m gettign my vomit bag handy

    Dionysus April 21, 2007, 6:58 pm
  • Say what you want about the long ball. Since the Yankees got to know him they’ve scored in every game.

    john April 21, 2007, 7:01 pm
  • *gasp*
    Ok.. ok…
    Its not over yet. But.. whew.

    Dionysus April 21, 2007, 7:01 pm
  • Mike’s velocity is back where it should be, which is good. Actually, batting Phelps for Doug M hamstrings Torre later; Posada can’t hit for Nieves or else the bench is left without a catcher.
    I wonder if the better strategy would have been to let Doug and Thompson hit, PH Posada for Nieves with Phelps coming in to catch if NY manages to tie the score. Then you have Papelbon facing Posada-Damon-Jeter at the top of the ninth.

    desturbd1 April 21, 2007, 7:02 pm
  • Farnsinator in to make me sweat. FEAR.

    attackgerbil April 21, 2007, 7:03 pm
  • Very true John, and I do not doubt that they will continue to do so. With that offense? I never discount their bats.
    I was speakign about Beckett on the Season as a whole.
    To keep the YANKEES from hitting homers means he may have solved that little problem, which means.. while the insane bats of the Yanks may still score.. other teams that managed to win via the logn ball will not. Thus a smaller ERA on the whole

    Dionysus April 21, 2007, 7:05 pm
  • Wow john, you mean Beckett’s failed to throw a shutout vs NY? What a scrub!
    Again, I’m in no way worried after today’s performance. Aside from A-Rod, who at this point doesn’t count as a human being, he didn’t get hit particularly hard.

    desturbd1 April 21, 2007, 7:06 pm
  • d1 with all due respect, i think you are selectively remembering the highlights of this game for Beckett. Minky almost took him deep in the 3rd. He pitched well in the middle of the game but he was hanging curves pretty regularly in the first 2 innings.

    sam YF April 21, 2007, 7:10 pm
  • Ugh. Not a good day for Drew. Oh well, can’t hit every day, Paps on to try and close the door.

    desturbd1 April 21, 2007, 7:11 pm
  • I’m convinced A-Rod is a Cylon. It’s the best explanation.
    Watch his eyes! If you see a red flash…

    Dionysus April 21, 2007, 7:11 pm
  • I just hope A-Rod gets up, but I fear that shan’t happen – I assume Papelbon’s ready today?

    yankeesnj April 21, 2007, 7:12 pm
  • Paps throwing heat

    Rob April 21, 2007, 7:15 pm
  • 2 very close pitches

    Rob April 21, 2007, 7:16 pm
  • I’m trying not to, but you’re probably right. Still, the first four runs scored, in part, on a bloop, an infield hit, a throwing error, a legit single, and a DP ground out. I know, there were a couple well-hit singles and a smoked double in there, too, but my point is that he could have just as easily gotten himself out of it. The mistakes he made stayed in the ballpark, which is a huge change from last year, and like you said…he was great for about 4 innings.
    And Paps is getting f*cked.

    desturbd1 April 21, 2007, 7:16 pm
  • Damon down on a grounder to short

    Rob April 21, 2007, 7:17 pm
  • Other thing…as an SF, I remember watching games last year that started poorly for Beckett, and you just knew they weren’t going to get any better. Today I just never got that worried; I thought he’d do enough to put himself in position for a win, and he did. Not his best stuff today, but it was still a decent performance.
    Paps, on the other hand, is scaring me.

    desturbd1 April 21, 2007, 7:18 pm
  • We did not need to walk a batter

    Rob April 21, 2007, 7:19 pm
  • Jeter looked that strike two right down the middle. C’mon captain!

    walein April 21, 2007, 7:20 pm
  • See that do*chebag in the Jeter jersey in the stands? No one attacking him! How’s THAT for classy fans?

    desturbd1 April 21, 2007, 7:20 pm
  • Wow..98 on the gun.

    Rob April 21, 2007, 7:22 pm
  • Ugh. We NEED to get Abreu, but I just KNOW it’s going to come to A-Rod.

    desturbd1 April 21, 2007, 7:22 pm
  • an…Jeter just late. Allright Bobby!!!!! C’MON BOBBY!

    walein April 21, 2007, 7:22 pm
  • Do not let ARod in the game…end this with Abreau

    Rob April 21, 2007, 7:23 pm
  • wrong part of the park to hit that line drive. Night ya’ll.

    walein April 21, 2007, 7:23 pm
  • SOX WIN!

    Dionysus April 21, 2007, 7:23 pm
  • I think I crapped myself when Abreau hit that ball….I could just see it carrying towrds the stands.

    Rob April 21, 2007, 7:23 pm
  • Papelbon looked a little shaky (alot of balls).. but a little shaky from Paps is still good enough for a save

    Dionysus April 21, 2007, 7:25 pm
  • Well, I’m always wrong. Cool. And yeah, Abreu put a decent charge on it…scared the hell out of me.
    Great win, only disappointment remains Manny Ramirez…though he at least hit the ball hard today.
    Rob, you THINK you crapped yourself? I’d figure that out pretty quick if I were you…

    desturbd1 April 21, 2007, 7:25 pm
  • May I say…
    Coco and Tek may be out of their slumps. All they needed was the intensity of the Rivalry.

    Dionysus April 21, 2007, 7:26 pm
  • Now we just let Cora play at Second forever and we are set!

    Dionysus April 21, 2007, 7:28 pm
  • Nooo! Pedroia is our 2B of the future and deserves a few months to play. We can’t just give up on talented position players when they happen to struggle for a while…big-market team’s have a nasty habit of bailing on guys too quickly, and it’s just not a good idea.
    I like Cora a lot, and I’m fine with him getting 2 starts a week to rest Pedroia and Lugo, but he’s not a starting 2B and never has been. Great role player, but a career .244 hitter with a poor OBP. Letting his fast start sway us doesn’t make a lot of sense.

    desturbd1 April 21, 2007, 7:38 pm
  • You’re right, of course, d1.
    On Cora that is and his place as a role player (even if he’s a very very good one).
    But I’m not convinced PEdroia has the talent. Yes he was promising throughout the minors.. but sometimes even the most promising amazing guy in AAA just hits a wall coming to the Majors and not be able to progress. I worry that Pedroia is one of those guys. I know Manny isnt hittign either and Coco just started to hit,, but they get more leeway because of their numbers in the past.
    Fair? Probably not.
    But.. Pedroia is the only one I *really* worry about

    Dionysus April 21, 2007, 7:43 pm
  • I’m not worried about Manny- he always gets off to a slow start, and he’s been hitting the ball better the past few days (note how hard he hit it today, albeit right at people). He looks more comfortable at the plate than he did, that’s for sure.
    Beckett may not have been impressive, but he didn’t do too terribly against a 1-6 lineup that can absolutely mash. Like d1, I was impressed that he didn’t give up a dinger.
    The best part is that the Sox can sweep at best, or gain a game at worst.

    Ayuh - SF April 21, 2007, 7:47 pm
  • LOL D1..I did hit the panic button rather early on that shot.

    Rob April 21, 2007, 7:52 pm
  • Thing about Pedroia is he doesn’t strike out, and until recently, it seemed like he never gave away many ab’s. He’s definitely been pressing, but I just don’t think he’s been in any way overmatched since the callup. Still not striking out, but he’s no longer walking, either, which has always been his strength. To me that just shows that he’s trying too hard to put the ball in play and make something happen.
    I just think that if he wasn’t so small and didn’t have such an odd looking swing, we wouldn’t be as worried. He did hit .305/.384/.426 in AAA last year, after all.

    desturbd1 April 21, 2007, 7:55 pm
  • I think alot of us did Rob. I was on my feet.
    We just are trained to expect the worst case scenario when it comes to the Yankees.
    By the way.,. these first two games? INSANE.
    Down to the freakin’ WIRE both of them. Last games late innign come back.. this games early matching through the first two to combine with the close save at the end.
    This proves the rivalry goes beyond the fans. In April you’ll see individual games like these here or there.. but all in one series? Only Sox-Yankees.
    God Blees the Rivalry.
    GO SOX!

    Dionysus April 21, 2007, 7:57 pm
  • It’s nice to be reminded that the Sox can actually win against the Yanks at Fenway.

    Devine April 21, 2007, 11:59 pm

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