Rumor Central: Yanks-Jays Gamer I

Who will play in Toronto tonight? Mike Mussina and Roy Halladay, for sure. Shea Hillenbrand, surely not. Alex Rodriguez? Smart money says Yes. The rumors reported below appear to be just that, which means we can all enjoy a stellar pitching matchup and stop sweating over the potential departure of our under-appreciated MVP. Comment on all the action, on field and off, right here.

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  • Lineup:
    CF Damon
    SS Jeter
    DH Giambi
    3B Rodriguez
    C Posada
    RF Williams
    1B Phillips
    LF Cabrera
    2B Cairo
    What does Bernie have on Torre that he continues to play against RHPs?

    yankeemonkey July 20, 2006, 6:55 pm
  • Bernie’s career avg against Halladay is .348, unfortunately Torre is ignoring that Big Bern is 0/7 against him since 2004.

    bloodyank78 July 20, 2006, 6:59 pm
  • Gee, look who’s hittin’ cleanup.
    So I guess we see now how the Jays perform with their cancer removed. A good series here from the Yanks can put them out of the race. Let’s hope for that.
    And a good start for Johnny D!

    YF July 20, 2006, 7:08 pm
  • Ahhhh….game on. All hail the return of normalcy!

    yankeemonkey July 20, 2006, 7:13 pm
  • ARod is batting…who bets if he strikes out he doesn’t end the game as a Yankee

    NeffSox July 20, 2006, 7:15 pm
  • Guess he is safe then :-D

    yankeemonkey July 20, 2006, 7:17 pm
  • I heard what I heard on XM, I promise I didn’t make it up, other people heard it too. I suck anyway, my bad.
    So, my buddy just calls to ask what I’m doing, I say I’m watching the Yanks/Jays on my computer.
    His repsponse: “It’s on ESPN you meathead.”

    LocklandSF July 20, 2006, 7:19 pm
  • cut him, not even a trade, just cut him

    NeffSox July 20, 2006, 7:24 pm
  • Two quick outs for Moose. Gets 1-2 on Wells…1-2 is ripped down the 3rd base line. A-Rod dives for it, but can’t throw out Wells in time, so an infield single. That’s a double if he doesn’t get to it, good play.

    yankeemonkey July 20, 2006, 7:25 pm
  • I don’t like Jeter bunting in the first.

    attackgerbil July 20, 2006, 7:26 pm
  • What a great stab by the ball boy! Sign him to play RF!

    attackgerbil July 20, 2006, 7:27 pm
  • Ump gets the call right on the check swing this time on Glaus to end the inning.

    attackgerbil July 20, 2006, 7:29 pm
  • Nah…just cut A-Rod and have the ballboy play 3B. Duh, it’s a no-brainer!

    yankeemonkey July 20, 2006, 7:29 pm
  • Posada swings and misses for out #1. Hey look, Bernie with a double!

    yankeemonkey July 20, 2006, 7:32 pm
  • Hmm…Andy smokes the first pitch he sees at Glaus, who throws him out. Melky follows with a first-pitch out as well. Bernie stranded. Stop swinging at the first pitch, people…Grrr.

    yankeemonkey July 20, 2006, 7:34 pm
  • Nice catch and throw by ARod to get Molina.

    attackgerbil July 20, 2006, 7:40 pm
  • The Blue Jays removed their cancer, but when are the Yankees gonna trade theirs to the Phils?

    Paul SF July 20, 2006, 7:42 pm
  • Awesome breaking pitch to fan Zaun. Moose looks like, well, Moose.

    attackgerbil July 20, 2006, 7:42 pm
  • Ouch, Paul.
    I wonder where Shea will land. He’s too good to be sitting out for long.

    attackgerbil July 20, 2006, 7:43 pm
  • Cairo with a single, then steals second. Nice, Miggy. Bring him home.

    attackgerbil July 20, 2006, 7:46 pm
  • Damon with a nice RBI

    Rob July 20, 2006, 7:46 pm
  • Damon doubles to score Cairo.

    attackgerbil July 20, 2006, 7:46 pm
  • I just got home from work, pulled the web page up and saw all of these “rumors.” I see A-Rod in the game. Has anyone seen anything refuting the A-Rod trade?

    Rob July 20, 2006, 7:47 pm
  • Weak grounder to short from Jeter for one out, Damon holds at second.

    attackgerbil July 20, 2006, 7:47 pm
  • Rob: only in that there is no corroboration at all besides the initial report on ESPN XM.

    attackgerbil July 20, 2006, 7:48 pm
  • I smell BS on this.

    Rob July 20, 2006, 7:48 pm
  • Being a Sox fan I would not feel bad for anything weakening the Yanks. But this, no this would just be stupid.

    Rob July 20, 2006, 7:49 pm
  • Bad baserunning by Damon.

    Rob July 20, 2006, 7:50 pm
  • Full count to Giambi: Shift happens. Damon gets doubles off second on the 4-6 dp line drive. Bad Johnny.

    attackgerbil July 20, 2006, 7:50 pm
  • Hill retired looking, frozen like a statue. Nice k by Moose. He then brings in a sick curve for a strike to McDonald. The 0-1 is low and outside. The next pitch is another breaking pitch away. The 2-1 is lined to center for a single.

    attackgerbil July 20, 2006, 7:55 pm
  • Reed Johnson comes up with one out and takes a strike on the inside high corner. The 0-1 is a 643 dp to end the inning. Silky.

    attackgerbil July 20, 2006, 7:57 pm
  • ARod leads off with a double. Posada singles to center, and ARod holds up at third. First and third with no outs to Bernie.

    attackgerbil July 20, 2006, 8:02 pm
  • Bernie chops it to second. The only play is to force Jorge at second as ARod scores and Bernie is safe at first. AP up with one away.

    attackgerbil July 20, 2006, 8:03 pm
  • AP grounds out 643 to end the inning, chopping at the first pitch. Blech. After the top of four, it’s NY 2, Toronto 0.

    attackgerbil July 20, 2006, 8:04 pm
  • 1,999 hits for Alex. I was hoping he’d get #2000 at home…oh well.

    yankeemonkey July 20, 2006, 8:05 pm
  • Man, this game is just zipping along, ain’t it?

    yankeemonkey July 20, 2006, 8:06 pm
  • Moose jams Catalanato on the hands to induce a popout to second for the first out in bottom four.

    attackgerbil July 20, 2006, 8:08 pm
  • Yes, it is. I like it. That’s what happens when you get two pitchers that work fast and throw strikes. Wells is out number two on a 4-3 grounder.

    attackgerbil July 20, 2006, 8:09 pm
  • Moose is at 49 pitches, 15 balls, 24 strikes as he is up 0-2 on Glaus and feeds a ball away. He then fans Glaus swinging. Moose is rolling.

    attackgerbil July 20, 2006, 8:11 pm
  • Melky up for NY in the top of the 5th. He falls behind quickly 0-2, then takes a ball inside. The 1-2 is sliced foul up third. Another 1-2 is in on the hands and fought off for another foul ball. Big backdoor curve from Halladay misses outside. The 2-2 is a light chopper to the right of the mound. Halladay fields but Melky is fast and beats out the throw for an infield single. Nice, MELKY!

    attackgerbil July 20, 2006, 8:15 pm
  • I missed a run. Looks like Cairo sac flied Melky.

    attackgerbil July 20, 2006, 8:19 pm
  • Damon pops out to left for the second out. Jeter up.

    attackgerbil July 20, 2006, 8:20 pm
  • Glaus throws out Jeter to end the inning. Overbay, Molina and Zaun due up for the Jays in the bottom of the fifth.

    attackgerbil July 20, 2006, 8:21 pm
  • Overbay (who looks like a tall Giambi in his stance and mannerisms at the plate) works the count 2-2. He is fanned on a breaking pitch for the first out.

    attackgerbil July 20, 2006, 8:25 pm
  • Moose feeds a strike looking to Molina. The 0-1 is high and fouled back right. Moose shakes off about 4 calls by Posada. He then brings a deuce on the outside corner that Molina flails at for a swinging k. Two away to Zaun, who takes strike one.

    attackgerbil July 20, 2006, 8:27 pm
  • A backdoor breaking pitch away makes it 1-1. The next pitch is a breaking ball that misses just outside for 2-1. Moose brings a fastball driven to right center where Damon makes the catch to end the inning.

    attackgerbil July 20, 2006, 8:28 pm
  • Ya…Melky stole second, went to 3rd when no one covered 2nd on the pickoff from Molina, scored on Cairo’s SF. Moose is dealing!

    yankeemonkey July 20, 2006, 8:29 pm
  • Giambi grounds out to lead off the top of six. ARod chops to short for out number two. Posada up.

    attackgerbil July 20, 2006, 8:32 pm
  • 2 pitches from Halladay, 2 outs. Way to work the count, boys…

    yankeemonkey July 20, 2006, 8:33 pm
  • Nice YM. Thanks for the update. Wish I saw it. Please don’t trade Melky, Brian Cashman. Let him grow into the excellent Yankee I think he may become.

    attackgerbil July 20, 2006, 8:33 pm
  • They are a bit jumpy on Halladay’s early pitches tonight. I wonder why that is.

    attackgerbil July 20, 2006, 8:34 pm
  • Posada goes inside out for a double up third. Nice, Jorge.

    attackgerbil July 20, 2006, 8:34 pm
  • Thank you, fan interference. Bernie almost pops out just past the third base dugout. Glaus really wasn’t trying hard for that ball anyway.

    attackgerbil July 20, 2006, 8:36 pm
  • Bad Call!! That pitch was a half-foot outside, but Bernie is called out looking. Ick.

    attackgerbil July 20, 2006, 8:37 pm
  • Hill with a double to the left corner leads off the bottom of the sixth.

    attackgerbil July 20, 2006, 8:40 pm
  • McDonald chops it to third. Jeter’s throws is up the line but AP makes a great recovery and catches the throw, applies the tag for the out. One away, Hill to third.

    attackgerbil July 20, 2006, 8:42 pm
  • Trade that stiff!!!!

    SF July 20, 2006, 8:42 pm
  • ARod with an E6 as his throw was way off line coming home to try to get Hill at the plate.

    attackgerbil July 20, 2006, 8:43 pm
  • Alex RodrigSax.

    SF July 20, 2006, 8:43 pm
  • E5 rather

    attackgerbil July 20, 2006, 8:43 pm
  • Someone ought to be playing short…

    SF July 20, 2006, 8:43 pm
  • Alex Rodriblach? Anyway, runner advances to second. Still one away.

    attackgerbil July 20, 2006, 8:44 pm
  • Here come the wheels off the wagon….

    yankeemonkey July 20, 2006, 8:45 pm
  • Toronto gets another run as Catalanatto singles to right. Tough pitch to hit, let alone pull.

    attackgerbil July 20, 2006, 8:45 pm
  • Ooh, nice cut by the YES director after Catalanotto’s single right to A-Rod, looking very, very ashamed.

    SF July 20, 2006, 8:45 pm
  • Mackey Sasseriguez?

    SF July 20, 2006, 8:46 pm
  • I think they should’ve got the out at first on that play, anyway, rather than try to nail the runner at home.

    yankeemonkey July 20, 2006, 8:46 pm
  • Wells is at the plate and falls behind 0-2. He chops it between Jeter and ARod to make it first and second with 1 out.

    attackgerbil July 20, 2006, 8:47 pm
  • Moose just crumbles pitching from the stretch, doesn’t he?

    SF July 20, 2006, 8:48 pm
  • YM: I agree with that call. SF: Mackey… heheh that’s good.
    Toronto takes the lead on a two run double by Glaus.

    attackgerbil July 20, 2006, 8:48 pm
  • F*k.

    yankeemonkey July 20, 2006, 8:48 pm
  • YM is right – get the darn out. Absolutely. But I hope that doesn’t get chalked up by someone like Joe Torre to “Alex trying too hard to make a good play”. It just was not a smart play at all.

    SF July 20, 2006, 8:49 pm
  • Melky misplayed the ball off the wall in left. Played it like he was at the Stadium. It’s his first game playing left in the SkyDome. The misplay allowed the second run.

    attackgerbil July 20, 2006, 8:50 pm
  • SF: Agreed. Go for the out at first. Too much can happen coming home on a close play like that.

    attackgerbil July 20, 2006, 8:51 pm
  • It was effectively a 2 run error by ARod.

    attackgerbil July 20, 2006, 8:52 pm
  • Seemed like Posada was signaling for a throw home too, wasn’t he? Just a dumb play all around….Instead of 3-1 and 2 out, turned into 4-3 game. Bleh.

    yankeemonkey July 20, 2006, 8:54 pm
  • AP comes in and takes a ball, and then a strike on the outside corner that looked a bit generous. The next pitch is in the dirt away for 2-1. Halladay misses for 3-1. AP grounds out on a hard ground ball to short for the first out.
    They just showed an overhead of the play at home. Should have been easy for ARod there. Plenty of time.

    attackgerbil July 20, 2006, 8:55 pm
  • Halladay is looking for the outside strike as he goes 2-2 against Melky. Cabrera fouls off the next pitch. Halladay misses away and again looks like he wants that pitch. It’s close, but definitely outside. Melky lifts a fly to right for the out on the full count.

    attackgerbil July 20, 2006, 8:56 pm
  • Maybe there was plenty of time, but it’s a bad choice. Instinctively I am guessing that for a throw home a player doesn’t pause to consider how much time he actually has, which leads to a (naturally) rushed throw, which even for a player of A-Rod’s caliber opens up the possibility of wildness. Had he been playing in on the grass it’s a much easier play, and more understandable. Playing back, however, he feels more pressure, the throw is longer, hence a greater chance of an error. Should have gone to first, especially considering it was getting late in the game.
    Meanwhile, Michael Kay can stop whining about the # of earned runs charged to Moose. Who cares, really?

    SF July 20, 2006, 8:58 pm
  • Halladay goes to 3-1 against Cairo. He’s just off the corners on a lot of these balls. Cairo fouls a strike off to make it full. The payoff: on the ground at short to end the inning.

    attackgerbil July 20, 2006, 8:59 pm
  • That toe’s gotta be a factor. His throw to first in the second — although he was trying to bounce it — was just pathetic…

    Paul SF July 20, 2006, 9:00 pm
  • Yeah, Kay really went off on that element of the scoring. No one cares, except for Moose fantasy players I guess. And you’re correct SF, the play should have been to first. Protect the lead and allow the run. It completely changed the complexion of the rest of the inning.

    attackgerbil July 20, 2006, 9:00 pm
  • Totally with you on all points, SF. If Moose takes the loss in this game, does it matter if he gave up 3 or 4 ERs? Sheesh…Meanwhile, what’s Halladay’s pitch count? 50?

    yankeemonkey July 20, 2006, 9:01 pm
  • Halladay 69: Moose 63 at the start of bottom of seven.

    attackgerbil July 20, 2006, 9:03 pm
  • Correction.. misread the line it’s moose 80, halladay 87

    attackgerbil July 20, 2006, 9:04 pm
  • 63????? That’s not right, they showed him at 72 in the 6th sometime.

    yankeemonkey July 20, 2006, 9:04 pm
  • Ah.

    yankeemonkey July 20, 2006, 9:05 pm
  • Hill flies out to right for the second out in the bottom of seven after a ground out 4-3 from Zaun.

    attackgerbil July 20, 2006, 9:05 pm
  • Moose ends the inning with a breaking pitch that induces a grounder to second from McDonald.

    attackgerbil July 20, 2006, 9:07 pm
  • Please don’t lose this game b/c of that stupid throw….I can see the headlines now *shudder*

    yankeemonkey July 20, 2006, 9:08 pm
  • Does anyone know Moose’s career ERA from the stretch vs. windup? I wonder what the typical pitcher’s differential in ERA is between the two positions, and if Moose is any different. Mussina has always struck me as a much worse pitcher from the stretch, not really very scary at all, while from the windup he makes me feel very nervous.

    SF July 20, 2006, 9:10 pm
  • To be fair, they won’t have lost the game because of the throw, but that is how it will probably be written, unfortunately.

    attackgerbil July 20, 2006, 9:10 pm
  • SF: that’s a great question. I’ve never even thought to look it up, but I have thought what it’s like when Wang becomes a completely different pitcher from the stretch than when he is out of the wind up. Fascinating.
    Hill makes a great grab on an inside out swing by Jeter. Really, amazing.

    attackgerbil July 20, 2006, 9:12 pm
  • Not a clue…it does seem like he has a meltdown everytime he gets a couple of people on. Which is why that game against White Sox was impressive, he stranded a ton people on base.
    WTF? Why the hell did they just take out Halladay? He was cruising!

    yankeemonkey July 20, 2006, 9:12 pm
  • I know it’s the Yankees, and I prefer that they lose of course, but I really can’t stand the Canadian baseball fans. It’s like they are watching some sort of novelty, cheering boisterously for average plays, booing the wrong things, etc. There’s no good team to root for in this affair, unfortunately.

    SF July 20, 2006, 9:12 pm
  • AG: I agree, but that’s what the tabloid dopes will say.

    yankeemonkey July 20, 2006, 9:13 pm
  • John Gibbons with the “B-Level Managing” move of the day.

    SF July 20, 2006, 9:14 pm
  • SF: you gotta root for the Yanks, or do you want BJs messing up the Boston/NYY AL East domination?

    yankeemonkey July 20, 2006, 9:14 pm
  • Shift happens. Giambi get a single. Woot!

    yankeemonkey July 20, 2006, 9:15 pm
  • Especially when Halladay has owned Giambi today.

    attackgerbil July 20, 2006, 9:15 pm
  • test

    yankeemonkey July 20, 2006, 9:30 pm
  • SF: I grew up 3 hours from Toronto, and saw a few games at the Ex, as well as one at the Sky Dome. It’s a different mentality. I don’t know if it’s because everyone would rather be watching hockey, but the crowds are bigger for Leafs games. I was at a NYY/TOR game at the Ex with 5,000 fans in a, what was it, 70,000 seat arena? weird experience.
    Melky scores on a Texas-Leaguer by Posada. Remind me why they took out Halladay? Wait, don’t.

    attackgerbil July 20, 2006, 9:30 pm
  • Typepad makes it’s Lazarus return.

    attackgerbil July 20, 2006, 9:31 pm
  • Reset the server, reset the game thread. It’s top 9, knotted at 4. AP up. He strikes out swinging and is out at first on the dropped third strike.

    attackgerbil July 20, 2006, 9:32 pm
  • Grumble grumble. Stupid server ate up all the witty posts I tried to make :( A little more Melky magic wouldn’t hurt…..

    yankeemonkey July 20, 2006, 9:34 pm
  • Full count to Melky with one away: popped out of play.

    attackgerbil July 20, 2006, 9:35 pm
  • Agreed YM: some of my best prose and poetry was lost to the downtime. The world will never know. Avenge me, Miggy.

    attackgerbil July 20, 2006, 9:36 pm
  • Melky walked on a pitch *just* outside to bring up Cairo with one away.

    attackgerbil July 20, 2006, 9:37 pm
  • I had a post all written up, got eaten. But it was about Kay saying, in the eighth, that A-Rod had a chance to “atone” for the error, which I felt was just totally BS. I mean, if A-Rod had to atone for the error, than why does Moose escape criticism from Kay, since he was the guy who gave up the next three hits to score three more runs? Kay was just doing what the tabloids do, even though I bet he’d never cop to that.

    SF July 20, 2006, 9:37 pm
  • Moose —
    None on — .240/282/.379
    Men on — .267/.308/.421
    I would assume that’s pretty typical.
    I agree that Kay went on forever about the earned run, but it was a ridiculous scoring decision. You have to assume that the routine grounder to A-Rod wasn’t a fielder’s choice. Which is insane.
    Oh, and of course you throw home. That’s a routine play, the throw wasn’t obstructed, and your catcher is calling for it.

    mp July 20, 2006, 9:37 pm
  • The kid’s grasp of the strike zone is amazing.

    yankeemonkey July 20, 2006, 9:37 pm
  • Hate to leave a game at this stage but I have to go. Good night all.

    attackgerbil July 20, 2006, 9:38 pm
  • Oh, and SF, on the comment you just made while I was posting — Kay has his favorites that change year to year. If this were last year he’d be going on for days about how Mussina crumbled after A-Rod made that error, how his teammates can’t trust him to pick them up, how this is why he never has won 20…. etc and so on…

    mp July 20, 2006, 9:38 pm
  • I gotta go to bed. I mean, what am I doing watching Jays/Yankees…
    Good night!

    SF July 20, 2006, 9:39 pm
  • Wouldn’t it be nice if it were just Kaat, Leiter and Singleton doing the games? Is there anyone who actually enjoys Kay’s banter?

    yankeemonkey July 20, 2006, 9:40 pm
  • Cairo finally strikes out after a bunch of fouls.
    Melky steals second…

    yankeemonkey July 20, 2006, 9:42 pm
  • ….and is stranded there as Damon strikes out on 3 pitches. Bottom 9th coming up.

    yankeemonkey July 20, 2006, 9:43 pm
  • Everyday Scotty is pitching well again, so clearly Torre’s plan is to burn him out again as quickly as possible. Gets Overbay to ground out 4-3 on the first pitch, strikes out Molina, gets Zaun to fly out to Bernie. Extra innings!

    yankeemonkey July 20, 2006, 9:48 pm
  • Jeter, who’s had a pretty sucky night, strikes out to open the 10th…of course not a peep from the booth crew about that. But A-Rod’s got to “redeem” himself after that error. Yeesh.
    Blogging into vaccuum = no fun. ‘Night all and Go Yankees!!!

    yankeemonkey July 20, 2006, 9:54 pm
  • YM, I was here! I just had nothing to add. This game should have been won by the Yanks, but I fear it’s just going to end up putting us 2.5 games behind the Jays…

    Sam July 20, 2006, 10:02 pm
  • whoops

    ATLSF July 20, 2006, 10:17 pm
  • Anyone else really hate Vernon Wells?

    yankeemonkey July 20, 2006, 10:18 pm
  • Sox fans resent the hell out of Vernon Wells… except when he’s playing the Yankees.

    Hudson July 20, 2006, 10:19 pm
  • Yes, every single Red Sox fan on earth.

    Brad July 20, 2006, 10:19 pm
  • At least in that we’re united :)

    yankeemonkey July 20, 2006, 10:21 pm
  • Actually, much like Jermaine Dye and Carl Everett, I root for Wells to fail every at bat no matter who the opponent is.

    Brad July 20, 2006, 10:22 pm
  • Why those 2?

    yankeemonkey July 20, 2006, 10:23 pm
  • I hate guys that play like it’s the seventh game of the world series against some teams, and lay down for others. Not that Wells does that, because he’s clearly a great player, but the Blue Jays as a whole are that kind of squad. They have trouble with teams like Baltimore and Cleveland and get all the juices flowing to ruin another team’s chances of getting ahead – be it NY or Boston. I hate that stuff. Misery loves company for these losers..

    Brad July 20, 2006, 10:25 pm
  • Because both are very well known Sox killers, but nothing special everywhere else. See the post above.

    Brad July 20, 2006, 10:26 pm
  • Gotcha.

    yankeemonkey July 20, 2006, 10:27 pm
  • can also throw Javy Lopez into that mix.

    Brad July 20, 2006, 10:30 pm
  • Oh, man I thought this game was going to end like the one the Yankees played against the Seahawks the other day, the one where JJ Putzyboy tried to play the part of an effective closer… But no, this one ends with me yelling because Catalanotto (who got a single against Mo) was thrown out at second!
    Before I could finish the words, BANG zoom gone, game over! None other than the aforementioned Vernon Wells takes Rivera deep and the Yanks fall 2 1/2 back.

    Brian July 20, 2006, 11:01 pm

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