Sailing Away?: Sox-Twins Gamer II

Not since 1946 have the Red Sox had a 6.5-game lead this early in the season. For the first time since 1995, at least by my recollection, the Sox have actually managed to put some distance between themselves and the Yankees (ed: that is, when the Yanks have struggled early in the season). But with the Yanks winning already today, it sure would be nice to keep the margin going another day. Sadly, Boston must ask lightning to strike a third time — as Julian Tavarez faces Johan Santana. Somehow the Sox are 2-1 in which Tavarez has faced off against his opponent’s top pitcher (Halladay twice, and Wang).

Hey, why not, right? The offense continues to get timely hits, the bullpen is one of the best in baseball, and the results are clear — the Sox have baseball’s best record. They go for win No. 20 tonight. Comment away!

Red Sox

1. Julio Lugo, SS
2. Kevin Youkilis, 1B
3. David Ortiz, DH
4. Manny Ramirez, LF
5. J.D. Drew, RF
6. Mike Lowell, 3B
7. Jason Varitek, C
8. Wily Mo Pena, CF
9. Dustin Pedroia, 2B

SP – Julian Tavarez


1. Luis Castillo, 2B
2. Nick Punto, 3B
3. Mike Redmond, C
4. Torii Hunter, CF
5. Justin Morneau, 1B
6. Jason Kubel, LF
7. Jeff Cirillo, DH
8. Jason Tyner, RF
9. Jason Bartlett, SS

SP – Johan Santana

Also, I’m guessing it’s some kind of record that the Twins are filling the bottom five spots of their lineup with guys whose first names start with "J."

176 comments… add one
  • Sox are making Santana work a bit… 17 pitches with Manny at the plate… Youk at first, 2 down.

    Paul SF May 5, 2007, 7:20 pm
  • Now Manny walks. Two on for Drew, who really needs to come through here. Any time you can get runners on vs. Santana, you HAVE to capitalize…

    Paul SF May 5, 2007, 7:22 pm
  • drew’s first look at santana – not too optimistic.

    minomni SF May 5, 2007, 7:24 pm
  • Now Drew runs the count full. From the looks of GameDay, Santana’s not getting the corners…

    Paul SF May 5, 2007, 7:25 pm
  • now Drew walks.
    Lets go Lowell!

    TJ May 5, 2007, 7:25 pm
  • Drew draws the walk to load the bases. If we don’t come through here… Well, we just have to come through here. Let’s go, Mike!

    Paul SF May 5, 2007, 7:26 pm
  • santana doesn’t look sharp at all – bases are loaded. ortiz struck out on a check swing earlier on a full count that looked to be checked, ortiz was shouting at the third base ump and was livid for a good few minutes afterwards.

    minomni SF May 5, 2007, 7:27 pm
  • game days locations have been off this season outside and low pitches by Matsuzaka been showing as low in the middle. lol

    TJ May 5, 2007, 7:27 pm
  • Suck. That might have been our chance.
    Still, 30 pitches for Santana that inning…

    Paul SF May 5, 2007, 7:28 pm
  • Damn. Would have been very nice to put up a run or two, but it’s hard to get mad at anyone for not coming up with a 2-out basehit against Johan Santana, no matter how wild he is.
    At least he had to throw 30 pitches in the first inning.

    desturbd1 May 5, 2007, 7:29 pm
  • The Twins announcers (on Directv, sadly NESN isn’t available) really suck.

    SF May 5, 2007, 7:29 pm
  • ugh. punto fires one from his knees and gets the out on lowell. santana gets out of a bases loaded jam, going out a limb and guessing there won’t be too many more of those opportunities this game.

    minomni SF May 5, 2007, 7:30 pm
  • mino, I didn’t have the game up yet; so Lowell hit it hard and it took a good play to get him? Kinda a good sign, I guess.

    desturbd1 May 5, 2007, 7:33 pm
  • Wonders never cease. Santana throws 30 in the first, while Tavarez throws 11. Crazy paperless game.

    Paul SF May 5, 2007, 7:34 pm
  • 11 pitches for tavarez, his sinker looks to be on.

    minomni SF May 5, 2007, 7:34 pm
  • Yeah, gotta say, Mike Redmond’s just a little less scary in the 3-spot then Joe Mauer is. Good quick inning for Tavarez.

    desturbd1 May 5, 2007, 7:36 pm
  • yeah, i would say it was a pretty impressive play from punto. perfect throw from his knees to get lowell.

    minomni SF May 5, 2007, 7:36 pm
  • WMP: This could be ugly. Look for consceutive sliders or changeups now that he’s down 0-1.

    desturbd1 May 5, 2007, 7:38 pm
  • predictably, wily mo way out in front and strikes out on a change.

    minomni SF May 5, 2007, 7:39 pm
  • One thing about Pedroia: He doesn’t swing and miss very often. Nice little single there to right-center.

    desturbd1 May 5, 2007, 7:41 pm
  • really unimpressed with lugo thus far. he needs a base knock here. varitek and pedroia are on.

    minomni SF May 5, 2007, 7:41 pm
  • or hit into a line out dp. either or.

    minomni SF May 5, 2007, 7:43 pm
  • Gonna blame him for that?
    Scorches a liner, but right at the first-baseman, who steps on first to end the inning. Santana looks quite mortal to this point; little better luck and Boston has a crooked number on the board already.

    desturbd1 May 5, 2007, 7:44 pm
  • LFRS continuing to cement his title.

    SF May 5, 2007, 7:44 pm
  • “scorches”? It was a floater jam job, d1, from Lugo, softly hit to first.

    SF May 5, 2007, 7:45 pm
  • …you’re really faulting Julio Lugo for LINING into a double play? Seriously, SF?

    desturbd1 May 5, 2007, 7:46 pm
  • Santana’s being a little messy and we, stupidly, haven’t capitilized. We need to do so befor ehe settles down, or we’re done.

    Dionysus May 5, 2007, 7:48 pm
  • Didn’t look like a jam to me. Whatever.

    desturbd1 May 5, 2007, 7:48 pm
  • Oh look.. Wily Mo made an feidlign error. Shock.

    Dionysus May 5, 2007, 7:49 pm
  • Wily Mo Pena costs Boston an easy, easy f*cking out. Unbelievable. If this run scores, it’ll go as earned, but it most certainly was not.
    If that was just a jam-shot floater, then Dustin Pedroia’s slower then Doug Mirabeli. Because he didn’t have far to go to get back to first, and Morneau beat him trotting.

    desturbd1 May 5, 2007, 7:50 pm
  • i’m just frustrated with lugo in general. i think it’s fair to say he’s provided neither above average offense nor defense to this point. did the wily mo error surprise anyone?

    minomni SF May 5, 2007, 7:56 pm
  • Jeez, Tavarez squeezed on that 2-2.

    SF May 5, 2007, 7:57 pm
  • Lugo’s had two good weeks and two bad weeks. It happens.
    This ump’s strike zone better be the size of a postage stamp when Johan is back out there, too.

    desturbd1 May 5, 2007, 7:59 pm
  • Tavarez gets no help from his teammate, then no help from the ump. A couple runs here are like 5 or 6, with Santana on the hill. Could be an early night for me.

    SF May 5, 2007, 7:59 pm
  • Would have been a clean inning if Coco was playing…f*cking a. Would have been done there, too, if Lowell could make ONE MODERATELY DIFFICULT PLAY this season.

    desturbd1 May 5, 2007, 8:02 pm
  • Yeah, what’s up with Lowell all of a sudden not coming up with anything of above-average difficulty? The guy’s becoming totally undependable, scarily. I almost have a bad feeling when I see the ball hit his way with any velocity.

    SF May 5, 2007, 8:03 pm
  • It sounds like Lowell and A-Rod switched gloves this season.

    Andrew May 5, 2007, 8:04 pm
  • “A couple runs here are like 5 or 6, with Santana on the hill.”
    In a month or two, I’d agree. But Santana hasn’t exactly been sharp so far, and he’s always a bit more hittable in the beginning of the season. And he’s already at 41 pitches.
    Tavarez is pitching far better then his line/pitchcount would indicate right now. Hopefully he keeps it up.

    desturbd1 May 5, 2007, 8:05 pm
  • Minnesota up (1)2- zip. Two runs with 7 innings to go against Santana is pretty much what he’s given up this year, and he’s had a bad year so far. I don’t see good things tonight. The Sox had a chance to go up early, Oritz got f*cked on a check swing, then Lugo does his thing. Oh well, this game was a steep hill going in anyhow, can’t get too dyspeptic about it.
    Gotta win tomorrow, though, whether they come back tonight or not, with Schill on the hill. At some point Beckett’s going to falter, so we need our “number 1” to set the tone.

    SF May 5, 2007, 8:07 pm
  • Well, he’s been mediocre this season, d1, but he’s still only giving up 3.60 runs per game, and there are only 7 innings left. I’d say that the odds of us scoring 2 or 3 runs while Tavarez keeps the Twins scoreless in the next 4 or 5 innings is quite low. Not zero, but low.

    SF May 5, 2007, 8:08 pm
  • OK well now he looks more like Johan Santana. Not really surprised…
    Still, thanks entirely to that 30 pitch first, it’ll be tough for Santana to keep the count low enough to go 7.
    What the f*ck is Manny doing? That was a f*cking line-drive, why the hell did he stand there and watch it? Now I’m pissed off.

    desturbd1 May 5, 2007, 8:11 pm
  • Look at this, d1 and I have switched bodies! He’s the uninhibited, glass-half-full optimist, while I have visions of nothing but doom.
    What’s going on here!!??

    SF May 5, 2007, 8:11 pm
  • Ugly game. As soon as those runs scored, I knew we had lsot.
    Actually, when we didnt score in the first, I knew we were done.

    Dionysus May 5, 2007, 8:14 pm
  • By the way.. what do y’all think of this exhibition/opening day in other countries thing?
    Exhibiton games are fine.. but games that count should only be played in actual stadiums, no ifs ands or buts.

    Dionysus May 5, 2007, 8:15 pm
  • SF- Can we assume you won’t be a charter member of the Julio Lugo Fan Club? :-)

    Ayuh - SF May 5, 2007, 8:15 pm
  • …it’s 2 runs in the 3rd. Even I’m not this negative most of the time…heh.
    Apparently Tavarez owns Nick Punto. Is he one of the “piranhas?” I hate that gimicky f*cking term and am quite upset with Ozzie Guillen for coining it.
    “By the way.. what do y’all think of this exhibition/opening day in other countries thing?”
    If they want to do a NY/Boston series in Japan to start the season, I’m OK with it. But only if the two teams start season a week early and get more frequent off-days during the season to keep their schedule in line with the rest of the league. If they don’t get that, it’s not fair to open the season with that kind of jet lag.

    desturbd1 May 5, 2007, 8:18 pm
  • I agree with you Dio- I don’t like the idea of regulation games being played outside or either team’s home park. Particularly when they play the games in Japan- those trips can screw up a team for weeks with the time change.

    Ayuh - SF May 5, 2007, 8:18 pm
  • Ugh, that was a poorly written paragraph by me…
    Tavarez looks good. Just saying…better defense and he’s outpitching Johan Santana.

    desturbd1 May 5, 2007, 8:20 pm
  • I just don’t understand the hatred for Lugo. His average is well below his career line, like many others on the team, but he’s walking a lot, so he gets on base at a good clip. When he’s on base, he steals like crazy, and his defense has been solid. It hasn’t been Gonzalez-like, but it hasn’t been *shudder* Lowell-like either.
    No complaints from my end. Two good games, and his average is close to .300 again, such is the nature of the season in May.

    Paul SF May 5, 2007, 8:22 pm
  • Jet lag is only one part of the problem, D1… who loses the chances for homefield advantage? The Yankees are better at the Stadium and the SOx are ebtter at Fenwaya nd it goes beyond just hitting at the bottom of the inning. Its the dimensions of the park, the crowds…
    so wheoevr gets to play in the bottom ‘ie as the home team’ in Japan.. loses that advantage and never gets to make it up.
    No, sorry, games that count only where they should be.

    Dionysus May 5, 2007, 8:23 pm
  • Exactly, Paul.
    Great ab by Lowell, even if it ended with an out. If you’re not gonna get on base, at least make Johan work.

    desturbd1 May 5, 2007, 8:23 pm
  • Another long at bat, that ends with an out..
    Well, if we can’t score on Satana, maybe we can get him out of the game early enough TO score.

    Dionysus May 5, 2007, 8:27 pm
  • So make it a four game series to open and switch home-away. I dunno, I think it’d be good for the game to try and make it international. Both teams would be affected equally by playing in a neutral park so I don’t think that’s really an issue. Pitchers would be unhappy, though; I’m pretty sure those ballparks are a lot smaller then ours.
    Another fantastic ab by Tek. Lost the battle, but Johan’s now up to 71 pitches in the 4th inning. Hopefully Pena doesn’t embarass himself too badly.

    desturbd1 May 5, 2007, 8:27 pm
  • Wow! That wasn’t embarassing at all! He pounded that thing!
    Go Pedroia! Breakout game, I can feel it.

    desturbd1 May 5, 2007, 8:28 pm
  • Did Wily Mo just get a hit?
    Now its Cora ti-oh wait.. Pedroia.
    Pickoff attempts? I dont think Wily Mo’s stupid enough to try and ‘steal’.. well.. a second time.
    A Wild Pitch? By Santana?

    Dionysus May 5, 2007, 8:30 pm
  • Hey, not liking a guy isn’t always rational. I don’t like Lugo, and it’s not just because of his performance. I don’t like watching him bat. I don’t like watching him field. I haven’t always rooted for guys just because of their raw stats, and I am not going to start now, just for the record. Fandom is a fickle thing.
    As for today, the Sox had 5 baserunners in the first two innings (should have been six if Ortiz hadn’t gotten screwed), and no runs. That’s no good against a guy who will probably get stronger as the game goes on, and who (whatever the pitch count), can make up for it quickly with two or three 6-9 pitch innings. Sure, 30 in the first was great, but Santana only threw 11 in the second, and a couple of other quick innings and he can go 7 or 8, easy.

    SF May 5, 2007, 8:30 pm
  • If I were baseball commissioner, one thing I’d mandate is that every team has to schedule one true doubleheader a season- not a day/night doubleheader, a true “one ticket gets you two games” twinbill. It used to be a standard thing on EVERY Sunday.
    It would only mean one lost game from a revenue standpoint, and I think the goodwill would be enormous.

    Ayuh - SF May 5, 2007, 8:30 pm
  • … WTF?

    Dionysus May 5, 2007, 8:31 pm
  • Sorry, Dio- I got a little tangential there.

    Ayuh - SF May 5, 2007, 8:32 pm
    Two wild Pitchs and freakin’ PEDROIA!
    It’s Twilight Zone!

    Dionysus May 5, 2007, 8:33 pm
  • i love dPod!

    TJ May 5, 2007, 8:33 pm
  • I am watching on Tivo, so if all of my comments appear a little behind it’s because they, uh, are. I will take care of this over the next commercial break.

    SF May 5, 2007, 8:33 pm
  • No, no.. the WTF wasnt you Ayuh… it was at Santana’s SECOND Wild Pitch

    Dionysus May 5, 2007, 8:33 pm
  • I was right! HA! It was ground-rule, but that ball was absolutely crushed; this is a big park, in a lot of places that’s little Dustin’s first homer.

    desturbd1 May 5, 2007, 8:34 pm
  • Yes, six of the 12 runs back! Way to go, Dustin!
    (I am working on the “1 run equals 6 when playing Johan theory, which I think is healthy for the level of expectation)

    SF May 5, 2007, 8:34 pm
  • No comment, there.
    I think you all know what I am trying to say.

    SF May 5, 2007, 8:36 pm
  • Lugo strikes out on a nasty changeup. Unless the 5th is a 5 pitch inning, it should be Johan’s last. :-)

    desturbd1 May 5, 2007, 8:36 pm
  • Wow. Tavarez is f*cking dealing. I don’t care that he’s given up one extra run, he’s been the better pitcher by a wide margin to this point.

    desturbd1 May 5, 2007, 8:40 pm
  • …doesn’t have an answer for Jeff Cirillo, though.

    desturbd1 May 5, 2007, 8:42 pm
  • Huh. Apparently Johan through 116 pitches in 6 innings last time. Which means he’ll probably be back for the sixth this time if Ortiz and Manny don’t hurt him here.

    desturbd1 May 5, 2007, 8:46 pm
  • THREW 116 pitches…

    desturbd1 May 5, 2007, 8:47 pm
  • Pawtucket gave up 9 runs in the bottom of the 9th and lost 15-14 to Buffalo in the completion of a previous game.
    Second game to get underway shortly.

    TJ May 5, 2007, 8:49 pm
  • Manny keeps the inning going! Anythign to get Santana out of this game!

    Dionysus May 5, 2007, 8:49 pm
  • I think Manny is in the zone, and Im hoping Pedroia is too.

    TJ May 5, 2007, 8:50 pm
  • 98 pitches by Santana through 5

    TJ May 5, 2007, 8:53 pm
  • he’s done apparently.

    minomni SF May 5, 2007, 8:54 pm
  • JD Drew continues his COMPLETE failure to remember how to hit the damn ball.
    On the Pawsox game.. man.. Delcarmen and Hasen are just stinkign it up. We shoulda traded them when they were WORTH something.

    Dionysus May 5, 2007, 8:54 pm
  • Santana’s done? Did they say that and I missed it?
    Drew struck out looking at a pitch that was borderline at best, and looked outside (and possibly high) to me. I’d point out that this is Johan Santana, and Drew is a lefty facing him for the first time. That can’t possibly be fun.

    desturbd1 May 5, 2007, 8:57 pm
  • Maybe Colorado will take them and Lowell for Helton.

    TJ May 5, 2007, 8:57 pm
  • Pawtucket got 1 out in that 9th inning 9 runs allowed by Hansen and Delcarmen.

    TJ May 5, 2007, 8:58 pm
  • from what i saw on the bench, santana is done. tavarez has been impressive, if he goes 7 and keeps the twins at 2, there’ll be an interesting decision if lester is ready by the next start.

    minomni SF May 5, 2007, 8:59 pm
  • HA. Maybe before, TJ, but probably not now that they’ve become cesspools of suck (Delcansen, not Lowell)

    Dionysus May 5, 2007, 8:59 pm
  • Matt Guerrier coming in, looks like I just missed it…
    VS Guerrier:
    Lowell 1/1, HR
    Varitek, 1/1, BB
    Hasn’t faced Lugo, Youk, or Pedroia, and Ortiz is 2/2 against him.
    Lowell hits it hard right at the RF.

    desturbd1 May 5, 2007, 9:01 pm
  • Santana is indeed done

    TJ May 5, 2007, 9:01 pm
  • Lester wont be ready next start minomni, they want to give him at least one more mound appearance in Pawtucket.

    Dionysus May 5, 2007, 9:01 pm
  • This is nice. C’mon, Pena…throw him a fastball!

    desturbd1 May 5, 2007, 9:02 pm
  • Mike! Hey Lowell! Come over here a second..
    *smacks Mike on the back of the head*
    Don’t swing at the first pitch, ya numbskull. ESPECIALLY of a new pitcher.. try to see some pitches so you, and your teammates, know what he has

    Dionysus May 5, 2007, 9:02 pm
  • That first one was not a fastball. What a d*ck.
    2 straight way inside, and another really mean offspeed pitch for swinging strike 2.
    Full count, Pena fouls one off. Then strikes out on ball 5 in the dirt.
    Pedroia to try and be a bigger hero.

    desturbd1 May 5, 2007, 9:06 pm
  • need.. pedroia to deliver again. sigh :p

    minomni SF May 5, 2007, 9:06 pm
  • Via Gameday, all three stringing strikes were in the EXACT same spot. Guess Wily Mo has a blind spo-did Tek steal? Am I dead? Seeing things? How did TEK steal wiuthout his legs fallign off?

    Dionysus May 5, 2007, 9:06 pm
  • Dustin Pedroia and WMP are opposites in every sense of the word. I’d like to see a picture of them standing next to each other, because I think it’d look funny.

    desturbd1 May 5, 2007, 9:08 pm
  • Pedroia walks and here comes bathroom break v2.0

    TJ May 5, 2007, 9:10 pm
  • Pedroia draws the walk! Color me impressed.
    Too bad its all up to Lugo.

    Dionysus May 5, 2007, 9:11 pm
  • And this is why I like Pedroia so much and think he’s gonna be a great player. Pitch 6 with the full count was close, but probably a bit out of the zone; he went down and fouled it off, just to make sure. Did the same thing to Santana with 2 strikes, in both ab’s. Just a fantastic approach.
    And he walks, now it’s up to Lugo.

    desturbd1 May 5, 2007, 9:11 pm
  • and lugo continues working his way towards having the lowest average in the lineup. almost there buddy.

    minomni SF May 5, 2007, 9:14 pm
  • You SUCK Julio

    Dionysus May 5, 2007, 9:14 pm
  • Uhh, I thought he checked his swing, but whatever. Somehow I don’t think that’s the game, though…
    Jessie Crain looks like he’ll be coming in, or at least he was up in the pen near the end of the inning:
    Youk: 0/0, BB
    Ortiz: 0/0, 2 BB
    Manny: 0/1, BB
    Drew: 0/2, K

    desturbd1 May 5, 2007, 9:16 pm
  • The best Hoolian has pitched this year and the Sox are wasting it.

    I'm Bill McNeal May 5, 2007, 9:17 pm
  • Tavarez has roughly the pitching line I expected from Santana in today’s game, this is just incredible. I hope we can score him some runs, because this is far and away the most impressive thing he’s ever done as a Red Sox and has to be one of the best appearances of his career.

    desturbd1 May 5, 2007, 9:18 pm
  • Uh oh

    Dionysus May 5, 2007, 9:20 pm
  • You can credit the HP ump with the assist there. Unf*ckingbelievable; the 1-2 pitch was down the pipe and actually mislocated, knee-high. He should have been out 3 pitches before that f*cking double; even one of the homer announcers said so. God dammit I’m pissed off.

    desturbd1 May 5, 2007, 9:20 pm
  • Piniero up in the pen.

    I'm Bill McNeal May 5, 2007, 9:22 pm
  • well, if nothing else, tavarez effectively raised his trade value today.

    minomni SF May 5, 2007, 9:22 pm
  • Ellsbury’s doing well, already, in Pawtucket. .333 average, 3 hits, 2 walks. I love this kid.

    Dionysus May 5, 2007, 9:22 pm
  • DP!!!
    Nice job, Hoolian!

    I'm Bill McNeal May 5, 2007, 9:23 pm
  • The intent PAYS OFF! WOW!

    Dionysus May 5, 2007, 9:23 pm
  • Tek deserves soem credit too, as Im sure it was his idea to intent Morneau

    Dionysus May 5, 2007, 9:24 pm
  • Really hope Tito doesn’t pull Tavarez right now. It’s May, he’s stretched out enough; only at 98 pitches and, besides that mistake to Hunter, still dealing. Let him at least start the 7th…

    desturbd1 May 5, 2007, 9:25 pm

    Dionysus May 5, 2007, 9:25 pm
  • Well, all props to JT for this effort. Would be a huge STEAL if the Sox’ bats could pay Julian back. Between last night’s effort by Wakefield and today’s work from Tavarez, I think it is too easy to forget that the Sox’ bats continue to stink with RISP. The pitching continues to shine, keep games in reach, while the bats continue to wait until the last 1/3 to come through. Maybe this is to be expected the way they’ve worked counts, I dunno.

    SF May 5, 2007, 9:26 pm
  • Tavarez is sitting in the dugout with his head in his hands, looking upset. Why??? Wonder if he’s done, or if he just always looks like that in the middle of a start.

    desturbd1 May 5, 2007, 9:26 pm
  • Tavarez is throwing a gem, really, and really ought to be in line for a win…
    He’s outpitched Santana, but has been unlucky on both offense and defense (e.g. if Ortiz hadn’t been ripped off twice by the ump in his first at-bat, he might have an entirely different outcome on his hands).

    Hudson May 5, 2007, 9:27 pm
  • Depends d1, if we pull ahead by one run I think you might pull Tavarez. Our bullpens very capable. We get ahead by, say 4 or more…. leave Tavarez in. If we stay where we are, its a gut call.

    Dionysus May 5, 2007, 9:27 pm
  • Papi.. takes two called stirkes in a row?

    Dionysus May 5, 2007, 9:28 pm
  • What WAS that, David?

    Dionysus May 5, 2007, 9:29 pm
  • Manny evens it here.

    I'm Bill McNeal May 5, 2007, 9:29 pm
  • DAMN, our hitters just plain SUCK

    Dionysus May 5, 2007, 9:32 pm
  • Well that was a tremendously disappointing series of at-bats. Ortiz looked silly against Crain, who threw three superb pitches, and Manny followed with a barely-superior at-bat, grounding to second. Gonna be up to the bottom of the order to salvage this one, otherwise a totally winnable bonus game goes for naught. A lost opportunity at the very least, should things stay the way they are. Tavarez bought himself some time, and Lester some time, I would think. At least a week. ;-)

    SF May 5, 2007, 9:34 pm
  • Good night, all. Looks like the Sox have three outs to get to the Twins, assuming the score stays as is, with Nathan in the ninth. Keeping my hopes up, but not too optimistic. The important thing, as I said earlier, is winning tomorrow, winning a series on the road against a good team, and getting the momentum moving forward for Beckett’s start. Go SOX!!!!!

    SF May 5, 2007, 9:36 pm
  • hate to dwell on the past, but if pena could have only made that catch earlier…

    minomni SF May 5, 2007, 9:36 pm
  • SF, I think any thoughts of an impending call-up of Lester are premature.

    I'm Bill McNeal May 5, 2007, 9:37 pm
  • Drew, you’re due.

    I'm Bill McNeal May 5, 2007, 9:39 pm
  • Drew continues to crap all over the diamond. He’s pissing me off. I want Trot back.

    Dionysus May 5, 2007, 9:40 pm
  • Lowell make three outs on six total pitches, and a fourth out on eight pitches.

    I'm Bill McNeal May 5, 2007, 9:42 pm
  • How confused will WMP look on this AB?

    I'm Bill McNeal May 5, 2007, 9:43 pm
  • Tek gets on. Pressure on Wily Mo. I’ve ONCE seen him pull it off in the clutch, but I’m not there this tiem so the lcuks of me isnt there….
    So I’m not optimistic

    Dionysus May 5, 2007, 9:43 pm
  • Hinske to PH.

    I'm Bill McNeal May 5, 2007, 9:44 pm
  • Oh Hinske instead. I dont feel that much better.

    Dionysus May 5, 2007, 9:44 pm
  • Can we make them pay for THIS walk? please?

    I'm Bill McNeal May 5, 2007, 9:45 pm
  • Will Nathan come in if Hinske gets on? He blew his last save.

    I'm Bill McNeal May 5, 2007, 9:46 pm
  • Here comes Cora. I’m actually a little.. unsure about this move. Pedroia is hot tonight. But Cora is money.
    I don’t know how ot feel.

    Dionysus May 5, 2007, 9:48 pm
  • Ah. Its Nathan. So know I DO know how to feel.

    Dionysus May 5, 2007, 9:49 pm
  • wtf Pedroia is 2-2 with a walk, and has been a better hitter late in games why is Cora up

    TJ May 5, 2007, 9:49 pm
  • Nah. I feel good about this.

    I'm Bill McNeal May 5, 2007, 9:50 pm
  • Dude.. you use the screename Bill McNeal. I dont care if you feel good if your anythign liek the NewsRadios’ Bill McNeal your clearly insane :-)

    Dionysus May 5, 2007, 9:51 pm
  • Cora 2-10 vs. Nathan.

    I'm Bill McNeal May 5, 2007, 9:52 pm
  • Francona is a bonehead

    TJ May 5, 2007, 9:52 pm
  • Aaaand Cora blows it. Game over folks.

    Dionysus May 5, 2007, 9:52 pm
  • “When Johnny comes marching home again, .. he’s gay! He’s gay!”
    Bill McNeal is one of the all-time best TV characters. Phil Hartman is my alltime favorite. I really miss him.

    I'm Bill McNeal May 5, 2007, 9:54 pm
  • Shoulda left Pedroia in. Pedroia was hot tonight. Now we’re toast.
    It’s on on Big Papi in the ninth. Whats Papi’s record against Nathan.. statpeople, go!

    Dionysus May 5, 2007, 9:54 pm
  • we still have Papi and maybe Manny getting at bats

    TJ May 5, 2007, 9:55 pm
  • F*ck.
    11 LOBS.
    Is there any hope that we have the top of the order up in the 9th?

    I'm Bill McNeal May 5, 2007, 9:55 pm
  • NewsRadio was a good show. The only better show about a fake media group was Aaron Sorkin’s Sports Night. One of the best shows that never got any credit.

    Dionysus May 5, 2007, 9:55 pm
  • I miss Hartman too… I was at a corner store buying some things and the guy in front of me asked the cashier did you hear Phil Hartman was killed today i dropped everything from my hands…. busted a jar of pickles.

    TJ May 5, 2007, 9:56 pm
  • Papi 1-4 vs. Nathan; Yooks 3-10.

    I'm Bill McNeal May 5, 2007, 9:58 pm
  • Hartman on the Simpsons, SNL, just hysterical. Neither has been the same.
    “I’m Troy McClure. you might remember me from such Christmas specials as ‘Born in a Barn, and Oh, Jesus!'”

    I'm Bill McNeal May 5, 2007, 10:00 pm
  • I suppose it goes without saying that Lugo bites agaisnt him.
    What about Manny? Maybe we can get it to Manny….
    Pineiro throws another quick one.
    May I just say, that Theos bullpen aquisitions have turned out beyond my expectations? Seriosuly, I expected Donnelly and Pineiro to turn out similar to a guy named “Rudy”, but so far Im very impressed.

    Dionysus May 5, 2007, 10:00 pm
  • And hey, BIG props to Piniero.
    Outstanding outing. Six outs on 17 pitches. Can’t ask for more than that.
    Good job, Jor-El.

    I'm Bill McNeal May 5, 2007, 10:01 pm
  • J-Lu 3-10 vs. Nathan.

    I'm Bill McNeal May 5, 2007, 10:02 pm
  • E-5. We have life.
    Darkman is up in the pen.
    C’mon, Papi!

    I'm Bill McNeal May 5, 2007, 10:04 pm
  • Youk! On by an error!
    Ok Papi.. no DP, ok? Preferably a homerun, but anything but a DP

    Dionysus May 5, 2007, 10:05 pm
  • Manny 0-5, 4K vs. Nathan.

    I'm Bill McNeal May 5, 2007, 10:06 pm
  • Im begining not to liek you and your stats, Bill :-)
    Pay no attention that I, quite literally, asked for them

    Dionysus May 5, 2007, 10:07 pm
  • damn it

    TJ May 5, 2007, 10:08 pm
  • Manny, I need a hero.

    I'm Bill McNeal May 5, 2007, 10:08 pm
  • someone needs to smack Francona -_-

    TJ May 5, 2007, 10:09 pm
  • Hitting nathan hard, but for naught.

    I'm Bill McNeal May 5, 2007, 10:09 pm
  • 7 hits off Santana in 5 innings crap since -_-

    TJ May 5, 2007, 10:10 pm
  • &*^%&%(&(^*%%$&*^()*&()&

    I'm Bill McNeal May 5, 2007, 10:10 pm
  • ANd there it is. Good night folks. That SUCKED.
    We lose a game on the Yanks and the Os. Toronto is still losing, but.. ugh… We could have won this game.

    Dionysus May 5, 2007, 10:11 pm
  • And Manny swings through an awful, awful fucking pitch at the belt and in. This lineup did everything it could yesterday to lose, and today it managed to be just bad enough.
    Julian Tavarez outduels Johan f*cking Santana and they can’t get him a win. Disgusting.

    desturbd1 May 5, 2007, 10:12 pm
  • A very winnable game. So very disappointing.
    The positives: tremendous pitching against a great offensive team for a second straight night. The negatives: awful offense for the second straight night. Wasted a great start by Hoolian.

    I'm Bill McNeal May 5, 2007, 10:14 pm
  • Nathan was hardly sharp.
    But 12 LOBS, he should have even been a factor.

    I'm Bill McNeal May 5, 2007, 10:15 pm
  • Sorry.
    He SHOULDN’T have even been a factor.

    I'm Bill McNeal May 5, 2007, 10:16 pm
  • IMHO, this was by far the most frustrating loss of the season. And yes, that says something about how good Boston’s been to this point…
    The LOBS were bad, the fact that the only runs the Twins managed came entirely because of sh*tty defense was even worse. If Pena hadn’t botched an easy fly, this was, conceivably, a shutout. Or if Lowell hadn’t dropped a liner, it’s a tie game. I know, you can’t just look at two plays and expect the rest of the game to go the same way…but still…ugh.

    desturbd1 May 5, 2007, 10:19 pm
  • HOWEVER: tomorrow is Schilling vs. Ponson.
    I REALLY like our chances.

    I'm Bill McNeal May 5, 2007, 10:33 pm
  • d1, it’s fair.
    probably forgivable defense in May, but you HAVE to make those plays in September.
    So let’s be thankful it’s May.

    I'm Bill McNeal May 5, 2007, 10:35 pm
  • Glad I wasn’t around for most of this one. I’ve been very impressed by Francona’s managing this year, but PH Cora for Pedroia when the latter is 2 for 2 in the game and 3 for his last 6? Strikes me as overmanaging and doing the exact opposite of playing the hot hand — particularly when you consider how difficult it is to come in and produce off the bench.
    Bad move, I thought. Still, as others have said, when you have that many baserunners, it shouldn’t even be down to that.

    Paul SF May 5, 2007, 10:38 pm
  • Honestly, though, even with the LOBs tonight — losing 2-1 a game in which Tavarez is starting against Santana? I didn’t see the game, so I don’t have the residual frustration, but I feel encouraged. This is simply a much different — and much better — team than the one we saw last year.

    Paul SF May 5, 2007, 10:40 pm
  • I didn’t find this the most disappointing loss – the save Papelbon blew was worse. Tonight the Sox left a lot of men on base, but almost all of them were with 1 or 2 outs. Santana on a bad day is still a great pitcher, and I wasn’t expecting Tavarez to beat him. The Sox had several chances, but were beaten by talented pitching.

    Andrew F May 5, 2007, 10:42 pm
  • Oh I dunno…a 5.5 game lead after a loss in September would kind of take the sting out of a bad defensive performance. :-)
    Heh, tomorrow should be a grand old time. There aren’t many starting pitchers worse then Sidney Ponson in either league, and he’s got a career 3-10 record against Boston with a 6.69 ERA, 1.72 WHIP, and .325 BAA. Youk, Manny, Ortiz, Tek, and Crisp have all owned him, with varying numbers of ab’s; Lugo’s 2/12 lifetime against him though…so maybe it’s time to give him a day off.
    I wasn’t thrilled with the Cora PH, either, but it worked out last time. And yeah…this definitely looks like a different team. Sox have only been blown out twice this season, with every other loss a 4-run game or better.
    Heh, it’s a matter of opinion, Andrew; for me, Papelbon’s BS was more surprising then particularly frustrating. I always figured his first bad game would involve a homer, anyway.

    desturbd1 May 5, 2007, 10:51 pm
  • Ponson started a game for the Yanks in Fenway last year that the Yanks won. Maybe some crazy good luck will occur like that in the Metrodome.

    bloodyank78 May 6, 2007, 2:46 am
  • ponson will pitch a gem today

    dc May 6, 2007, 9:25 am
  • Seriously , you guys , this Tavarez trend will not continue . Get serious on getting another starter before its too late .

    arny May 6, 2007, 9:28 am
  • Amy, is your computer broken? You always have a space before every punctuation mark. If it is a problem with your keyboard, I’d call customer service.
    NO ONE is expecting Tavarez to be this good for much longer. The man is throwing rocks. But, per your suggestion, we have Lester getting himself together, and I’m sure we’ll make a push for Roger (though I don’t anticipate getting him). Hanseck is good for some spot starts, as are Pauley and Snyder. We’ll be alright.
    The Yanks on the other hand better get serious about getting another TWO starters before its too late.

    Tyrel SF May 6, 2007, 1:23 pm
  • actually tyrel, amy makes a valid pointfor the regular season…as do you…the sox will be alright if they make the playoffs…you only need 3 good starters then…

    dc May 6, 2007, 2:06 pm

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