Sox Win Matsuzaka Sweepstakes?

Buster Olney reports that the Sox have won the rights to negotiate an overinflated contract with Daisuke Matsuzaka with a bid in the $40 million range. Staggering. Previous high posting was $12 million for Ichiro.

PS: Apropos of nothing, we note that the DBacks have new unis. They now look like the Nationals, who look like the Astros, who look like the Angels, etc., but with some seriously lame typography. They’ve also got a sleeve patch that looks like an ejaculating penis. At least that’s unique.

18 comments… add one
  • Not sure why we’re posting again. But it would be amusing if the BoSox then trades Matsuzaka for ARod. Amusing indeed.

    Lar November 10, 2006, 4:49 pm
  • bye bye mr clement.
    1. schilling
    2. beckett
    3. japanese guy
    4. wake
    5. papelbon
    sounds formidable to me.

    sf rod November 10, 2006, 5:35 pm
  • As previously mentioned, the roundup of Sources More Credible Than Buster Olney:
    The Globe: Not discrediting it.
    Lohud: Discredits it, but his reason is because the Sox didn’t sign Damon (huh?).
    Sons of Sam Horn: Somewhere between euphoric and delerious.
    My mother: Dais-who-ke?

    Paul SF November 10, 2006, 5:44 pm
  • Re: 1..5, they could be formidable, but still too many question marks before I will start shaking in my boots.

    attackgerbil November 10, 2006, 5:54 pm
  • The fans at SoSH might be delirious, but those darn Seibu Lions are being deleterious. Announce already!

    SF November 10, 2006, 6:05 pm
  • Ha. I forgot Clement was even around.

    brad November 10, 2006, 6:17 pm
  • Should this be true, do the Sox get to take the $40M (+/-) fee and offset it against revenue? Does this move actually decrease their revenue sharing obligation? If so, this move is kind of like selling loser stocks off before the end of the year to offset gains. Add in the Japanese revenue potential and that $40M number starts shrinking, probably by at least a healthy 8 figures. This posting fee is not just a baseball decision, no way.

    SF November 10, 2006, 6:19 pm
  • SF: That doesn’t make sense, only in the sense that if it did, it would’ve made more sense for the Yanks, though they already have huge money leverage..
    Not sure though..

    Lar November 10, 2006, 6:33 pm
  • SF is correct. The post fee does not count against revenue sharing, so the cost to the team in real dollars is less than what signing a typical free agent (Zito, say) for the same figure. How much added revenue they’ll get from Japan I have no idea, but it can’t hurt. All that said, they’re looking at a $70 million commitment to a guy with no ML history. My feeling is this is a competition you’d like to win, so credit to Theo if the Sox have, though it’s certainly one that could come back to bite you in the ass in a big way down the road. So just remember to cut Theo some slack if it doesn’t work out, because it SEEMS like the smart thing to do now.
    And let’s not forget that Clemens may be a part of the Sox pitching staff in 2007. Clemens, Schilling, Beckett, Matsuzaka, Wake—that’s one heckuva staff, and it leaves Papelbon in the closer role. But maybe we’re getting ahead of ourselves….

    YF November 10, 2006, 6:54 pm
  • I think “offset it against revenue” is not quite “count against revenue”, but ya, we’ll see…
    I haven’t been following Clemens.. why does he want to go to the BoSox all of a sudden?

    Lar November 10, 2006, 6:58 pm
  • Well, if it counts as general expenditure, it can be offset against income, leaving net revenue smaller. I think this is right. Simply put, whatever the bid lowers their revenue sharing number by should be deducted from the $40M (or whatever the number is) to determine a “truer” cost. The fact that the money also doesn’t count against the luxury tax is an important thing as well. This is simply NOT like signing a $75M free agent, the dollars are not alike, and I hope that there is not an equivalency made by the analysts, and that goes for whoever should sign DM.

    SF November 10, 2006, 7:13 pm
  • That’s interesting. The “true” cost for the more expensive teams seems to give them even more of an advantage…

    Lar November 10, 2006, 8:28 pm
  • If the fee is so staggering, consider that the bid may have been nothing more than a preemptive strike against the Yankees. The Sox now have an exclusive negotiating window; should no deal get struck, the guy returns to Japan and Sox ‘get back’ their $40 million (or whatever the supposed winning bid is)

    Vic SF November 10, 2006, 9:29 pm
  • …clement is still around brad…he’s been seen golfing with pavano…
    …there’s usually quite a bit of truth to these rumors so it wouldn’t surprise me…man, this’ll make george even sicker…big commitment and risk for a team that normally is more conservative with their budget, and tends to spend their money so wisely…but, tip of the cap to sox mgmt for at least blocking the yankees from acquiring this guy…
    sf rod: let me refresh your memory on your 1-5
    clement: sf’s and sox mgmt thought he was the next cy young…nice of you to throw him under the bus…
    1. another year older
    2. so so 2006
    3. unproven
    4. love this guy, but he’s another year older and had a tough 06 with injuries
    5. he’s your reliever [or should be], unless timlin [tee hee] is going to fill that role
    …formidable, nah, but good luck with it anyway…

    dc November 10, 2006, 11:48 pm
  • YF, I’m pretty certain Papelbon is still in the rotation, even on the off-chance that Clemens does return. Wake would end up being the odd man out. Every doctor they consulted suggested that Papelbon would be a lot healthier with a normal routine every 5 days. His days in the bullpen (somewhat unfortunately) are over.

    Quo November 11, 2006, 12:03 am
  • I seriously doubt, after thinking about this (and reading about it as well) that the Sox wouldn’t be negotiating in good faith with DM. The money, as I said before, is not really $40M, once you take into account revenues from advertising (the Yanks know this with Matsui), the stake it plants in the Far East for the Sox (China has come up as another corollary market for harvest), the offsetting of the expenditure against income, and also the fact that Boras has stated he wants a three year contract for Matsuzaka. If this is true, and most of the analysis is reasonable, then Matsuzaka will be on the mound for the Sox next year. Though I don’t doubt there is a serious element of “keep away” here (possibly!), it’s more on the order of the Yanks signing Damon keep away, and not “delay arrival for a year” keep away. One may believe that a $40M posting fee might be bad business, but sabtoaging a relationship with the entire Japanese league IS bad business. The Sox, if they have actually offered $40M and taken the posting, did some math first. They didn’t just put their thumb on their nose uninformed.

    SF November 11, 2006, 6:32 am
  • i agree sf…it is unlikely that the sox would take such a risk given the sensitivity of the relationship with japan…i’m not a big fan of baseless allegations, so unless someone has some evidence of shenanigans on the sox part, it’s a non-point…and if the rumor about the winning bid is true, this could be a big coup for the sox…

    dc November 11, 2006, 9:43 am
  • Uh, what penises have you been looking at, YF?!

    SF November 11, 2006, 12:48 pm

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