Derek Jeter channelled his inner Spartan during a pitching change in the six inning of last night’s game and told the infielders that the Yankees would win the game. “I don’t always say that but I felt that way,” he said. “We had missed a lot of opportunities before.” Once again the Yankees and Sox have showed us that we can always expect the unexpected whenever these two teams meet. In a marathon of a game, the Yankees were able to pull ahead in the end and take game #1.
Today we get Chien-Ming Wang and Josh Beckett, the best each team has to offer. After today’s battle between these two Cy Young candidates we may finally have a better idea of who the front runner is. Wang has a 2.04 ERA in his last five starts and can match his career-high win total from last season with a win today. Beckett has also been very good over his last five starts posting a 3.41 ERA and a 3-1 record. A matchup of contrasting styles, but usually they provide similar results. Will Wang’s "Luck" continue or will those ground balls finally find some holes? Will we see the Beckett from the 2003 World Series or the 2006 version? Only time will tell. Buckle up and get ready for what I am sure will be another knockdown drag out battle.
Let the comments begin!
Yankees
1. Johnny Damon, LF
2. Derek Jeter, SS
3. Bobby Abreu, RF
4. Alex Rodriguez, 3B
5. Jorge Posada, C
6. Hideki Matsui, DH
7. Jason Giambi, 1B
8. Robinson Cano, 2B
9. Melky Cabrera, CF
Chien-Ming Wang, SP
Red Sox:
1. Dustin Pedroia, 2B
2. Kevin Youkilis, 1B
3. David Ortiz, DH
4. Mike Lowell, 3B
5. J.D. Drew, LF
6. Jason Varitek, C
7. Eric Hinske, LF
8. Coco Crisp, CF
9. Julio Lugo, SS
Josh Beckett, SP
I fear to watch, yet I cannot turn away…
YANKEES!! TONIGHT WE DINE IN HELL!!
… or something.
If Wang can throw his sinker consistently, Yanks take it.
But God I can’t help but to keep seeing Detroit in the rear-view mirror…
It’s like a car accident in slow (very slow) motion.
We’ll never hear about any of the times that some player told his teammates, “We’re gonna win this one” — and then they lost.
It’s the same dynamic that keeps the lottery going. No one runs around bragging that their numbers never come up.
Meanwhile… I don’t follow the Boston sports media that closely, but I’m surprised I haven’t heard at least Dirt Dogs alleging/whining that Manny is “faking” it, taking his customary end-of-season vacation, etc. — given how much the media loves to bash Manny.
I thought that Manny’s contract ended in July, or at least that is what Manny thinks.
From Edes:
SOX
Pedroia 4
Youkilis 3
Ortiz D
Lowell 5
Drew 9
Varitek 2
Hinske 7
Crisp 8
Lugo 6
Beckett 1
Yanks
Damon 7
Jeter 6
Abreu 9
A-Rod 5
Posada 2
Matsui D
Giambi 3
Cano 4
Cabrera 8
Wang 1
Oh sh*t…I’ve actually started to get excited for this game. DAMN IT! Now if they lose, it will hurt more!
Ah well…
Bring it, you bastards!
What? No Jellsbury Doughboy? Didn’t he play pretty well last night?
Also, today is a JOBA DAY.
Offtopic – but Pedro Martinez is amazing.
So far 5 IP, 6H, 1 ER, 8 K.
And his fastball barely hits 90mph. As FJM likes to say, fuck the heck?
I don’t understand why Jacoby isn’t in versus a groundball pitcher. Why bench your fastest guy, who happens to have an 11 or 12 game streak going?
Because Francona chose today to “show faith” in Hinske. Or something like that.
I generally like Tito, but his inability to keep from dicking around with successful lineups drives me insane. Ellsbury should be our lead-off hitter today.
Agreed – Jacoby should be in today. FTH.
Doesn’t Hinske, like, own Wang? Heh. I’m too lazy to look up the #’s….
Wow, Hinske’s numbers vs Wang in 22 AB:
.455 .478 .909 with 2 homeruns.
Small sample size? Or does he have something on the guy?
Yeah, YM. .455/.478/.909: 1.387 in 23 at-bats.
Wow, thanks for the splits Andrew. Maybe I stand corrected, though I reserve the right to bitch later.
No, Hinske’s had 22 ABs, as many as Mike Lowell. Ouch.
Still, you’d think the Red Sox would want to go with the Jellsbury Doughboy and the hot hand.
By Jove, you’re right. Hinske vs. Wang:
.455/.478/.909 (1.387 OPS) with a walk and 2 Ks in 22 ABs.
Small sample size though…
Okay, so I guess we all know how to look up stats!
ok, we’re seated. Started the day with a showing of “superbad”, now it is game time.
YF just yelled “die Dane Cook”, perhaps a justifiable phrase, but not exactly something that pleased the father of three young kids in the row in front of us. Classy, that YF.
Enjoy the game everyone!
Wait – those numbers are lifetime, though. Hinske is 0-6 against Wang this season with an OBP of… zero.
Yep. Definitely should have gone with the hot hand.
WRKO says Manny took BP in the cage today. Guess that’s promising?
Cook threw out the first pitch, which us what drove YF to say that.
4 fastballs, then a curve to Damon, which he hits back to the pitcher.
Ground ball to Youk. Damon down, 1 out.
SF, we shouldn’t hide our children from the truth. The statement “Dane Cook should die” is a truism. Dane Cook is only popular because of his body language. And because college girls think he’s “hott.” Plus he steals jokes from other comedians (Louis CK, for example).
Do those kids in front of you even know who Dane Cook is? YF is contributing to their cultural education and you shouldn’t interfere.
Ooops, to first, where it’s then thrown to the pitcher.
Way to go YF! Tell Dane Cook I want my money back from that awful movie I paid to see with him and Jessica Simpson!
Good Guys 1-0. The CAPTAIN goes big fly!
Dane Cook and Derek Jeter: Both on my list of people who should die. ;)
Walk issued to A-Rod.
The Captain CRUNCHES one out of the park!
(did you see what I did there)
Also, Dane Cook: A guy everyone can agree on.
The Captain CRUNCHES one out of the park!
(did you see what I did there)
Also, Dane Cook: A guy everyone can agree on.
Alex steals second, no throw.
Was that 2nd pitch as inside as Gameday makes it look?
Walk to Jorge. Runners on 1st and 2nd, 2 outs.
HIP HIP JORGE, walk it out walk it out
Oh, Beckett what are you DOING?
Christ.
1st pitch hit on the ground by Matsui to Youk. Inning over. 2 runners left on.
Bottom 1, 1-0 Good Guys.
you don’t have access to a tv, jackie? the game’s on Fox.
Finally out of the inning. Ok, time to score some runs. Maybe, you know, establish a 5 run lead that we can carry into the 8th inning, or something.
not surprised to see matsui ground out on the very first pitch… c’mon man, keep the pressure on!
1 run and 30 pitches though, i’ll take that.
Jackie’s Fox game is probably the Padres!
Base hit right up the middle for Pedroia.
Youk goes down swinging. 1 Out. Papi up.
Ah, the Padres are playing. Wow, I’m lucky the Tigers or the Cubs aren’t playing.
Wow, that is a BRIGHT field.
Papi lines one to right field, gets lost a little in the sun. Runners on 1st and 2nd, 1 out. As Girardi calls him “Mikey” Lowell is up.
RBI single by Lowell. Pedroia scores.
I don’t know if the Padres are on, I was joking. I think Jackie is in California.
Drew hits a screamer to Cano…LOL. 2 outs.
McCarver: “Fans can guarantee their money’s worth.”
Fans can also guarantee JD Drew getting out.
I’m pretty sure our Fox affiliate is carrying the Oakland game (I live in NorCal) but it’s a moot point since I’m in lab right now. I’d rather listen to the radio guys than the Fox guys anyway…
Ellsbury has a sore wrist?
Hinske kills the rally, holy crap Giambi gave me a scare.
.455 lifetime against Wang, huh?
Giambi throws his body in front of a Varitek ground ball, tosses to Wang. 3 outs. Inning over.
Top 2nd all tied up.
I beg to differ…Varitek kills the rally, as did Drew.
Oh yeah, you’re right. I am NOT paying very good attention to this game. lol.
Giambi looked like he just missed that one. Shallow fly to right. 1 Out.
Beautiful play by Pedroia. 2 outs.
Pedroia turns “THIS WAY!”
thx magic TV pen. So helpful.
Two outs on 5 pitches. ‘kay…
Feel a little bad for Drew – he hit the ball hard, just happened to be right at someone. Par for the course I guess.
Nice play by Pedroia, apparently?
So the Yanks and Sox both go tit-for-tat in the 1st inning… I can see this is going to be another epic saga.
I’m going to dinner at 7 o’clock and yet I won’t be surprised if I’m able to see the end of the game.
“We’re going to talk to Dane Cook later today.”
Looks like I know when to take a bathroom break later.
Leche goes down swinging.
Nice recovery, Beckett.
Did I just hear one of the Fox announcers say something like this?
“Either the Red Sox will suffer their second-biggest collapse in history and miss the playoffs entirely, or else they will win a division title”
No, there are other possibilities….
Becks gets ’em 1-2-3 in the second.
(Oh, so *now* you want a pitcher’s duel, ye baseball gods? Let’s see what Wang’s got in the bottom half. Ugh, that sounded R-rated.)
My apologies Jackie, Drew did NOT hit the ball hard I was being a ball buster. Drew hit a weaaaaaak dribbler to Cano.
Yeah, it was Varitek who hit the ball solidly, but Giambi able to knock it down.
jackie: yeah, Cano hit a bouncer up the middle, Pedroia dives to his right, stops the ball with the glove. Instead of turning towards 1B, he does a barrel roll, gets up, and makes the throw.
I’m pretty bad at explaining things, though.
Haha, I suppose I should know by now to never trust a YF. ;)
The Sox could go .500 for the remainder and still almost surely make the playoffs. If it’s McCarver, Buck, Morgan or some combination thereof, brace yourself for a calvacade of the stupids.
Thanks for the attempt, Doug, it was pretty good… I’ll try to catch it on the highlights once they’re up on MLB.tv
Wang rings up Hinske. Sample size? Very yes.
Hinske…predictable K on three pitches. Is Ellsbury’s wrist hurting a lot?
Crisp takes a pratfall on an outside pitch. LOL.
WOW what a snowcone grab by Cano. What a reaction.
Here comes .216 hitter Eric Hinske to test a theory.
And he Ks. So far, the statheads are behind.
I think statheads would argue that any pitcher vs. batter stats are pretty much meaningless because of the small sample size.
Wang gets the K! Inning OVAH.
The Sox seem committed to helping Wang keep his pitch count down today. Lots of quick hits and quick outs.
Each pitcher has a mildly shaky first, then a great second. Goodness.
So… Dane Cook is a Sox fan.
I was just thinking – if baseball’s concerned about its image as a sport followed only by white Americans in the US… Dane Cook is probably not the best guy to use for your postseason marketing campaign.
Beckett Ks Judas.
SIDDOWN!
J.B. really pounded the strike zone there.
I love the fact that Dane considers himself part of RSN and keeps saying WE do this and WE do that…LOL lucky RSN!
Thank goodness I’m not listening.
I miss the crowd noise, but pretty much all announcers should (metaphorically) burn in hell.
Base hit for Bobby.
what the hell are “hotsies?”
Beckett already at 52 pitches. He won’t make it through the 5th inning at this rate.
Trisk, well, the Son of Sam was a Yanks fan. That’s almost as bad as Dane Cook.
Heck yeah, down goes A-Rod.
Inning over, Abreu single harmless as Beckett Ks Arod on a 3-2 count… Nice.
But my concern is that Beckett’s already at nearly 60 pitches after three and Wang’s at 23 after two. If these guys keep matching up, score-wise, New York will have the advantage of their starter going deeper into the game.
A serial killer = “almost as bad as Dane Cook.”
Uh… whatever works for you, guy.
C’mon, doug, clearly a joke.
Bad joke, at that. Sorry.
lol @ how we jumped from “bad comedian” to “SERIAL KILLER” so fast, huh?
it’s all good, though.
Wang’s pitch is too strong for U-kilis. Soft liner to Cano. 2 out.
>>>Son of Sam was a Yanks fan
I’m pretty sure that Stalin, Hitler, Mao, Pol Pot and Idi Amin were also Yanks fans.
Sox fans: Washington, Lincoln, FDR, MLK, Gandhi.
Ortiz walks. Finally, some patience up there against Wang.
100 BBs by Papi for three straight seasons, according to the radio.
You forgot Mussolini.
Now Lowell walks.
Bringing up… J.D.
(The dude could end the booing for the rest of the season with a dinger here.)
and Drew walks too … 16 pitches without a swing. Now time for Tek
Unfortunately, Dane Cook trumps just about all of them…
Naw, Il Duce only followed the WWF.
– – – – –
Third walk in a row, now comes Tek, swinging the world’s slowest bat of late.
toast
Tek evidently didn’t get the memo that Wang is wild. He swings on the first two pitches, and pops up the second to Cano. Bah.
I hate Tek at the plate….soooooo much.
Tek leaves ’em loaded with a pop-up.
I’m only surprised it wasn’t a K. Feh.
Wang gets out of that sticky situation (sorry)… as Varitek kills the rally again.
On the (very slightly) bright side, at least Wang’s pitch count was boosted a bit there (46 vs. Beckett’s 58).
Tek has 5 LOB already.
Hip-Hip-Josh strikes out Posada. 1 out.
75 minutes for 3 innings thus far. looks to be another loooooooong game.
Becks with Ks #4 and 5.
Beckett strikes out the side. Posada, Matsui, and Giambi. Back on track.
nice 3rd pitch to giambi…it was a strike despite g’s whining, but tek’s the best at framing a pitch to make it look better…
3rd pitch=3rd strike
is anybody going to muse about wang’s being lucky to get so many easy fly balls today…hmm…technically a fly ball or popup is an easier play because it doesn’t involve a throw and then catch at first base…hmm…
Youkilis gets drilled. LMAO.
Drops to the ground screaming like a baby. “AHHH!! AHHH SHIT!!!”
Wow, ouch. Right on the forearm. You could hear his swears on the broadcast. I do hope he’s okay.
Well, SFs got their wish, Ellsbury is in the game. Watch him steal on another pickoff.
Here’s the Doughboy!
uh, was that another blown call?…youk, leaning out over the plate, actually swung and missed, with the bat anyway…
Unfortunate that Youk got hit. Hope he is ok. Never want to see anyone hurt.
agree trisk
Doug, ever the classy Yankee fan. Way to uphold the stereotype.
Could easily be a broken arm, and it’s also probably a bench-clearing scrum waiting to happen, if not tonight then tomorrow.
And that’s not a swing, it wasn’t even that close. He did lean into it a bit but uh, somehow that didn’t seem intentional…
Ugh, enough of this ‘line drive right at someone’ crap.
Drew with an RBI! Will wonders never cease!
I am so glad that Jason Varitek is in this lineup.
Why would that cause a brawl? Wang had hid 0-2, with Papi coming up, absolutely zero reason to hit him. It was an accident, an unfortunate one, but an accident none the less.
Drew! Finally!
The bottom of this lineup is a gigantic black hole of suck…
Oh my god. I almost jinxed it. Jesus.
Me.
…Tek misses a homer by ten feet. Ugh. That was a great pitch to hit…
Doesn’t have to be rational to ratchet up the tension – unfortunately.
I definitely got Truped on that last foul ball.
Oh please. If it was any other dude besides Youkilis, then I wouldn’t find it funny at all.
You guys all know how Youkilis about getting hit in that interview. “Maybe they don’t like me!” He needs to quit calling attention to himself.
Wang gets Varitek on the chopper to 2nd, inning over. Let’s get the run back.
Beckett retires the side. Jeter, Bobby, and Alex. And the beat goes on.
another 1-2-3. Nice.
Beckett at 92 pitches, btw.
A positively Wang-ian inning for Beckett. That sucked.
Holy crap. Maybe the stats were right.
Youk X-rays are negative, nothing broken (per WRKO). Bet he’s bruised as hell though.
Holy crap, Hinske does something good. Great career numbers against Wang but not so much this season…something like 0 for 8 before that double.
And Youk’s wrist isn’t broken, thankfully.
Crisp embarrasses himself trying to bunt, then slaps a 1-2 pitch into left-center. Hinske gets an awful read and can’t score, but that’s probably the right move anyway given that there aren’t any outs.
1st and 3rd, Lugo swings at the first pitch and hits a popfly. F*cking pathetic.
Fan interference on that huge Drew line drive…
BANG BANG BANG!!! JORGE POSADA AIN’T NUTHIN’ TA F*** WIT!!!
bartman
Dumb Ass!!! Yeah JORGE!!!
Go back to the bench Hinske.
I despise idiotic fans…probably a foul ball, but we;ll never know for sure.
Pathetic at-bat number 2, Pedroia hitting a weak groundball to second. F*cking inexcusable; I’m also a little surprised Posada is standing up right now.
God I hate making outs at home plate. Sounds like Hinske shook Posada up pretty good, which pleases me.
Jorge Posada. What a freaking BEAST.
they’re calling that a clean play, but a forearm/elbow to the throat was lame by hinske…
…whatever you say dc…looked completely clean to me…
Agreed DC that was slightly lame, but in Hinske’s defense there was little room to do anything but barrel him over. The elbow was extra.
No such thing as a lame play when Arod is on the opposing team. That guy defines ‘lame play’, continuously.
What elbow? Is he supposed to keep his arms flat at his side and just hit him with his chest? I’ve never seen a play at the plate that didn’t involve the arms coming up.
Wow. Ellsbury, again. A little lucky to find a hole, but it was well-struck.
dc, I dunno. I’m not taking anything from Hinske here, that was a monster clean hit…. but Jorge totally sonned him on that play.
Braw: OH U~
i’m so surprised you’d say that josh…still no bias from you eh?…i still say a forearm/elbow in the head region is lame…hopefully the yanks will be in a position to return the favor, then i want to hear your opinion…
Jacoby strengthening the argument against basing lineup construction on 22 ABs.
Just wanted to log on to say that Hinske just made me smile by smashing into Posada. Oh, and Big Papi does it again. 5-1.
I’m getting an ELLS-BU-RY chant going over here. All by myself, but who cares!
I know I know only the Yankees do dirty things. That’s clear.
AWFUL call, AWFUL, JELLS was out
clownboy’s back, the sox must be winning…don’t need to track the score, just watch for him to crawl out from under the rock…meantime umps having another tough game…
The throw was in time, but looks like Posada never got the tag on Jacoby?
Papi!! Ellsbury is so f*cking fast! Holy hell!
It looked to me like Posada had the ball in time to tag him out, but didn’t try to tag him…seemed like he just sat there expecting Ellsbury to run into his glove, which was held up near his facemask.
Guys watch the replay…Hinske CLEARLY comes up with the elbow. He’s trying to knock the ball out…Is it dirty, ehhh, it is what it is. But call it as it is, there were arms and elbows.
i think the announcer types may suggest that ells didn’t touch the plate
or not
He never tagged him, not once. I think he was bracing for another hit and just forgot to reach out and tag him.
Come on Yfs, that was a totally clean play. Props to Posada. Too bad he blew the tag on Ellsbury.
the catcher is fair game.
Come on Yfs, that was a totally clean play. Props to Posada. Too bad he blew the tag on Ellsbury.
Keep this “Come on Yankee fans” crap in mind next time someone from the Yankees slides into second and we say it’s part of the game and you guys b*tch about A-Rod coming up with his arms or Duncan sliding past the base.
Whatever dc, no, I don’t think I’m biased. I guess as an SF who disagrees with you I must be though, huh? All I’m saying is every collision I’ve ever seen at the plate involved the forearms one way or another; I didn’t see any intentional attempt to hit Posada in the face. You’re going to run into something, you put your arms up; if someone’s head is at your chest-level, that’s what happens.
Posada sits there with the ball but never tries to tag him. Just kinda holds onto it. Not sure what he was thinking…
John, there is a difference between a catcher blocking the plate and a baserunner trying to elbow a fielder in the nuts.
Clearly, being smashed into by Hinske affected Posada’s ability to make the play on Ellsbury.
“…totally clean play…”
totally?…uh, you have to say that…like i said, i’d like to hear what you say if the tables are ever turned…i’m ok with bowling the catcher over, but real men usually lead with the shoulder not an elbow to the throat…meantime, posada did miss the ellsbury tag, and didn’t realize it because he didn’t react like a catcher missing a tag normally would…like lunge at the guy to tag him “again”…
Your right because the Sox ran over the catcher and the Yankees slide into second. It’s the SAME thing, both players are trying to break up a play bottom line.
That would be true if there was an elbow, but it was a forearm. Posada made a great play.
Well, you all said Arod’s elbow in to Pedroia was clean, which it wasn’t, but that play was at second.
The play at home is different. The catcher is wearing armor. He’s fair game in every sense of the word.
actually, d-1, you may think you’re on higher ground now that you have a new role and handle here, but you’re the same biased d-1 whose gotten into it with me before…i don’t want any hard feelings man…i’m entitled to my opinion same as you are…i admit i have a yankee bias, but that play was excessive…
Wrong again. The second baseman did not block the bag.
I know I know he didn’t mean to hit him. LOL.
“real men usually lead with the shoulder not an elbow to the throat”
Oh. So I guess you must have been very upset with A-Rod a few months back, huh? I just disagree with the basic premise here; I really think most collisions involve the arms coming up. And not the shoulder. Because that’s your first instinct…or it was always mine, and it’s what I think of when I think of a collision.
And there’s the retaliation. I don’t think Wang did it on purpose, but I do think this is the kind of thing that’ll happen regardless of intent. And no, I don’t really like it…
Ok Tom, I don’t know baseball, you do. Whatever you say chief.
Giambi HBP – intentional?
WRKO announcers: “Well, if he meant to do it, he did it the right way.” Apparently intended for the ribcage.
Sigh. I do not want to get into this. The Sox do not need injuries heading into Sept/Oct baseball.
And of course the free pass is always stupid. If this HBP leads to a run I will be furious.
Whatever, dc, I’m tired of this. Everytime I’ve ever disagreed with you it’s been because of my HUGE bias.
And that’s why hitting someone on purpose is a stupid thing to do. Ugh. Never a good idea to give the Yankees free baserunners…
Trisk, come on man, you can’t possibly say a play at the plate and a play at cecond to break up a double play are the same thing?
It’s just not.
Maybe so.
typical yankees, blowing the mini-rally and letting beckett off after the hbp
yeah d-1, arod does some dick-ish things, and going after pedroia was one of them…if you can find where i said differently, i’m all ears…
Red Sox fans: I’m a die hard Twins fan but the Red Sox are in second place. I watched that game fall apart in the 8th inning and I’m so sorry! I hope you kick Yankee butt today. I can’t stand them.
PS: One last thing about the play at the plate…the forearms come up and into the catcher in every baseball video game I’ve ever played. Hehe.
Ace.
It’s the same premise, your job is to break up the play. Can you be as aggressive going into second? No. But your job is to go in there as hard as you can and break up the play. I have seen guys do ANYTHING they can to break up a double play. Same thing goes for plays at the plate, except you can barrel the player catching the ball.
josh, you rarely if ever take a pro-yankee viewpoint, that’s what makes you seem biased…but i’m ok with that…you are a sox fan after all…i said i have a yankee bias, but at least i can recognize arod’s dick-ish tendencies….
Josh you are 100% right, the arms do come up and that’s natural, I said that earlier I won’t argue that. My point is that there was a little extra.
I agree, let’s just forget it. Although I still say props to Posada. And I don’t like the guy. but that was a tough play.
did they say JD Drew clutch performer?
did they say JD Drew clutch performer?
Ok, Trisk, understood, but quick question for you and any other YFs here…
Which play was dirtier?
Hinske/Posada at the plate today?
or…
Arod/Dustin at second earlier this year?
Wow, Edwar Ramirez’s photo on GameDay is terrifying. (I’d link if I could figure out how.)
“yeah d-1, arod does some dick-ish things, and going after pedroia was one of them…if you can find where i said differently, i’m all ears…”
Fair enough. I dont’ remember what you said on the subject, just that the lines seemed to be drawn based on team allegiance. If I’m wrong so be it.
Hitting Giambi was just stupid. Beckett’s at 108 pitches now; if he doesn’t throw at Jason, there’s a decent chance he comes back out for the eighth inning. Instead, the bullpen gets some extra work. Real aggravating…
Fair enough, Trisk, I probably missed it. I didn’t see the “extra,” but also wasn’t really looking for it until after the replays were over and we started arguing.
What was Tek doing? Busted hit and run, maybe?
8 LOB for Tek now. Ugh.
the difference with plays at second vs. at home is that the fielder turning the double play is usually a moving target and harder to bowl over, while the catcher is stationary…contact is supposed to be ok at second base as long as the runner can reasonably reach out and touch the bag…but i don’t think forearms or elbows are ever appropriate…like i said, i thought guys usually lead with the shoulder, but whatever works i guess…meantime hinske shows some class and asks posada if he’s ok…apparently
I don’t think either was excessively dirty Lockland and you know I am pretty much the most unbiased Yankee fan around. I just think both players did what they had to do to get their respective jobs done. I would say both were aggressive.
“…the lines seemed to be drawn based on team allegiance. If I’m wrong so be it….”
no d-1, you’re not wrong…and that was my point, basing opinions on team allegiance is having a bias…that’s all i was trying to say…being objective is what i just did: being annoyed with both arod [a yankee] and hinske [a sox] for what i considered to be bogus plays…like i said, i don’t want any hard feelings just because we rarely [never?] agree ;)
“Just wanted to log on to say that Hinske just made me smile by smashing into Posada
I won’t go that far, but seeing how the Yanks have obviously been aiming for Youk all year, if Wang is not suspended I will be disappointed in the system.
The play at the play was good baseball. You block it, you suffer the consequences. Kudos to Posada for not dropping the ball.
“if Wang is not suspended I will be disappointed in the system.”
BostonRAW, just go away man, you’re an idiot.
wang was pretty wild the whole game clownboy…should beckett be suspended too?…figured you’d be back with the sox up by 5…where were you during the 8th inning last night?…
I have to say, I am encouraged at the amount of offense that we have been producing without Manny in the lineup.
And now we have another 5 run lead in the 7th. That always works out well.
Ditto
C’mon, no name-calling…
If Wang gets suspended so does Beckett. And neither of them deserve it, in my opinion.
Brian Bruney is awful. That is all.
question for my sf friends: should i give up on this game like i did last night? ;)
Wang suspended?
Youkilis gets hit because he dives in. Just like Jeter. That pitch was in, but it barely missed where it was supposed to be.
Also, you don’t put the guy on who hits before Ortiz. You hit Ortiz if you want to hit someone. Not the guy who hits before Ortiz.
They have been aiming at the dude all year long. This time they succeeded. Something should be done about that.
ok, i’m out…
“Youkilis gets hit because he dives in. Just like Jeter. That pitch was in, but it barely missed where it was supposed to be.”
Agree completely. Youk’s whole approach and to some extent his swing reminds me of Jeter. Including his tendency to get hit.
My god Jacoby is good.
Ellsbury is unbelievable. C L U T C H
whats happening yahoo seems to have froze with 2 on and 1 out
It would be ridiculous to suspend Wang; pretty clear from the situation that he wouldn’t hit him intentionally there.
Jacoby is just unbelievable.
Ellsbury again! Hard-hit grounder up the middle to plate two more. 8-1.
Ouch. Posada’s having a rough night; ball four to Ortiz hits the dirt in front of the plate and bounces into his facemask.
What is the point of these further pitching changes? Jesus Christ, Torre.
Eeyow – Lowell dribbled spit all over his chin. Then walks to force in a run.
Ouch!
I like Timlin here. Would have last night too, and, no, not in hindsight either. His experience should always be good enough to get 3 outs before giving up 5 runs.
So why’d this place suddenly die? Got boring or something?
I’m just happy we’re past the 8th inning – it seemed to last forever.
Wow, total white flag from the Yankees, did not see that coming.
Joba warming?
Seems like all the YFs have left. Can’t imagine why…
Hopefully this game puts to rest any thoughts of Wang being a CY caliber pitcher. As far as I’m concerned you ain’t that good if you can’t succeed in the tougher ballparks, which Beckett certainly has done but Wang has not.
The talking heads call it a competition between Sabathia, who is no sloutch pitching in Cleveland’s Fenway-isk ballpark, and Beckett. I’m ok with that, but I still have to believe Beckett will win it. The guy is a stud.
Later, gators!
Hinske! Did *not* expect that from him!
Hinske justifies his playing time, albeit a bit late in the game and not against Wang. Oh well, piling on is fun.
can we retaliate for the mongo chamberlain incident yet?
i know, i know…we’ll say this one slipped too.
Yeah, piling on is fun – a spanking was required after yesterdays debacle!
So the YF’s really did vanish . . . I would have thought they’d stick around hoping (praying?) for a replay of yesterday.
Game over. Nicely done, lads. :)
Just what we needed. Nice.
Magic number: 9
It’s this thing called dinner. I like to eat food.
One word about today’s game: ouch.
AMSF, it’s like 30-70 Yanks/Sox fan ratio over here anyway. I’m pretty sure there’s less than 10 YFs posting regularly here. I’m sure you wouldn’t expect us to always be on this site in shifts.
What? Doug, that’s unacceptable… you guys need to make up a schedule and stick to it. ;)
is anybody going to muse about wang’s being lucky to get so many easy fly balls today…hmm…technically a fly ball or popup is an easier play because it doesn’t involve a throw and then catch at first base…hmm…
Nope:)
clearly me.
ha.
Ok. back form Renn Faire. Psyched abotu a desperately needed win. Beckett strengthens his case for the Cy.
But what I want to talk abotu most.. is Jacoby Ellsbury.
13-game hit streak. AVG just under .400 (small sample size though). Clutch in EVERY way.
Want to know his numbers this year thus far?
20 games played in, with 66 at bats.
26 hits 26 hits, 14 rbis, 11 runs scored, 5 stolen bases, 4 doubles, a triple and 3 home runs.
Again with 13-game hit streak. Thsi kid COULD (emphasis on could) be HUGE.
damn you brad….where you been? ;)
actually, the lack of ground balls, ironically, was his problem today…
wanger is not beckett [duh], nobody said he was, [dc says while not acknowledging b-raw’s blatant gloating]…having said that wang still has had a fine year…most of the knowledgeable, gracious sox fans have said the same…beckett would have received my cy young vote, if i had one, before today…
yep, lockland, i “white-flagged” hours ago…the game [one game, by the way] was over…
well rod, i’d say you already retaliated with hinske’s cheap shot on posada, and beckett’s headhunting, which should have gotten him tossed a la joba…remember joba never actually hit youk…
“…Youk’s whole approach and to some extent his swing reminds me of Jeter. Including his tendency to get hit….”
damn, d-1…we agree on something…see, miracles do happen…
i’m with you dio, ellsbury for roy …kidding, it’s pedroia’s to lose at this point…
Actually I DO have an ellbury concern.. and it regards Rookie of the Year!
If Jacoby can produc even remotely close to this level next season he’d be a shoe in for ROY… UNLESS (duh duh duuuun)
He keeps playign so much. You have to START the SEASON with 130 at bats or less in the major leagues to still be considered a Rookie. Ellsbury is now at 66. If he keeps getting the playign time he’s been getting (Manny will be a BIG facotr in that) and/or if post-season at bats count for this (Im not sure), then he will NOT be considered a Rookie next season and NEVER be eligible for Rookie of the Year.
He’ll be stuck in some sort of bastardized limbo where he doesnt have ENOUGH ABs this year to be “seriously” considered a contender but he’ll have TOO many to be considered for next year.
How much would that SUCK?
sorry, dc. Somehow, one of my buddies decided today was a good day to get married. I don’t know what the fizzle he was thinking when they booked it for today…when i scheduled mine, one of the first things I did was check the schedule to see where the Sox were…ha.
What I know for sure after today and yesterday is the Sox have what it takes to play in October. I wasn’t so sure after the yanks swept us.
if the sox win tomorrow, the season series with NY will be tied at 9 wins a piece. lets just say, by chance, the sox blow 6.5 games by season end and finish tied with the yankees. the tie breaker is decided thusly. with the better intradivisionsal record the sox would win the AL East.
nothing like backing into a pennant.
If the sox blow 6.5 games before the end of the season, they don’t deserve to be there anyhow. But, that’s not going to happen. That Yankee sweep was just as much a function of New York stepping up as it was Boston stepping down. The past two days, and any Yankee v. Red Sox game in general, really defy any real logic anyhow, so I don’t put too much stock in it. When was the last time Papelbon pitched like that last night, on a night the Red Sox thouroughly outplayed the Yankees? Umm, never. When was the last time Wang let so many balls into the air? Again, never. The true testament of each teams ability comes in the games they play with the rest of the league, not each other.
In fact, I hate the Yankee v. Sox games, even when Boston beats the snot out of them. I think that it takes too much away from both teams, both physically and mentally. New York lost two of three from Tampa after sweeping Boston last time, and Boston wasn’t exactly on fire that week either.
Yep, it’s nice when they play, but I don’t read too much into it at all, no matter the outcome.
redsox have treated yankees starters like fluffers at an AVN ceremony. bullpen- saddle up, with the probable clemens-elbow bleeding performance tomorrow- remember elbow pain really hurts!
Re: Ellsbury
With 13 games left he would have to average 5 AB’s a game to pass the ROY cap of 130 AB’s for next year. That is not going to happen.
For that matter, something pretty interesting will have to occur for him to be considered next year, as the present RS OF is booked.
What I know for sure after today and yesterday is the Sox have what it takes to play in October
Gee, ya think? lol
“What I know for sure after today and yesterday is the Sox have what it takes to play in October”
Right you are, given the stellar performance of your late inning relief on Friday.
(NOT!)
“Ric”: The fact that porn references are the only thing you have to say speaks miles.
“Dear Rem Dawg,Daddy is a Red Sox Fan Mommy is a Yankee Fan” Video
I found this on YouTube, it’s the fuuniest thing I’ve seem,
What do you know about it?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rc7jO_mrS-Q
My kids are running around singing it!
Janice Johnson
Allentown PA
“What do you know about it?”
Mother knows best :)
kinda serves the dad right for marrying a yf, he got stuck with three daughters. god works in mischievous ways.
Right you are, given the stellar performance of your late inning relief on Friday. (NOT!)
Tigers may appear closer in rearview mirror than confidence may convey.
The Tigers are not likely to catch the Yankees. They have four left against the Twins (probably one against Santana next week), and three against the Indians starting tomorrow. They are down three in the loss column. Meanwhile, the Yankees spend a good deal of time against the Orioles (who are in utter tatters, with Bedard and Guthrie, the major thorns in the side of the Yanks, done for the year) and the Devil Rays (and who knows if Kazmir will be shut down in the last week of the season, for innings purposes). I think it’s highly unlikely the Tigers pull it out.