Take Off! Dice Goes to Canada: Sox-Jays Gamer I

The Sox head off to the Great White North, wind at their back,  blue tuques broken in, looking downward in the standings at last.   Tonight Daisuke Matsuzaka, our prized Allophone, makes his Canadian regular season debut in the land of the Loonie, the Toonie, and, dearest to our heart, the twenty-sixer.  Here’s hoping Daisuke doesn’t cook it up tonight and that he sends some poor young Jay back to the minors as a pogie looking for a joe job.

Comment here as the Sox attempt to dispatch those hosers from Toronto.

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  • after he strikes out the side in the 1st he should tell the crowd that canadian beer sucks :)

    TJ April 17, 2007, 5:30 pm
  • TJ – then he should pound an Asahi Super Dry.

    mattymatty April 17, 2007, 5:37 pm
  • Right on the mound. That’d be awesome!

    Paul SF April 17, 2007, 6:11 pm
  • just checked the weather in toronto….74 degrees and no wind.

    sf rod April 17, 2007, 6:27 pm
  • crisp in the two spot and WMP plays right.

    sf rod April 17, 2007, 6:33 pm
  • Its a good idea to give Drew a rest today. Hopefully Wily Mo will look a bit better than he did yesterday.

    mattymatty April 17, 2007, 6:37 pm
  • do they sell pizza at rogers center?

    sf rod April 17, 2007, 6:44 pm
  • Ahhhh.. Canada jokes. The best part of games against the Jays.
    Generally the only good part lately.

    Dionysus April 17, 2007, 7:10 pm
  • UGH. Coco in the 2-spot. I feel violently ill.

    Dionysus April 17, 2007, 7:11 pm
  • Well that was a disgustign batch of suck.
    Where’s my optimism from yesterday? I think seeign Drew sit, Coco hit second, and hearing Chacin’s record agaisnt the Sox… just kille dit all.

    Dionysus April 17, 2007, 7:15 pm
  • WILY MO!

    Dionysus April 17, 2007, 7:43 pm
    Weapons of Mass Pena!!!

    I'm Bill McNeal April 17, 2007, 7:43 pm
    Crushes a fastball over the restaurant (?) in center field.

    Andrew F April 17, 2007, 7:43 pm
  • Isn’t that the restaraunt that Manny hit a few years back?? That was absolutely CRUSHED.

    ToddSF April 17, 2007, 7:45 pm
  • Coco who? Trade that Crisp!

    TJ April 17, 2007, 7:45 pm
  • Was that just a Coco Crisp sighting?

    ToddSF April 17, 2007, 7:48 pm
  • Why’s Drew sitting out?

    Lar April 17, 2007, 7:49 pm
  • OK, Covelli doubles.
    Let’s add another Papi.
    (Has Wally forgiven Papi yet?)

    I'm Bill McNeal April 17, 2007, 7:49 pm
  • Apparently, Drew is just getting a day off on turf.

    I'm Bill McNeal April 17, 2007, 7:50 pm
  • Come on bats.. did we leave you in freakin’ Boston?

    Dionysus April 17, 2007, 8:08 pm
  • Chacin is downright scary in those glasses. He’s got a nice sheen to his head though.

    ToddSF April 17, 2007, 8:11 pm
  • I ahd to hand coutn 661 pieces of rebar at Lowe’s today
    I now hate rebar

    Dionysus April 17, 2007, 8:11 pm
  • Man, Matsuzaka is dealing.

    Andrew April 17, 2007, 8:15 pm
  • I once worked with a guy named Craig Rebar.
    Forget it. It was Reber. Hr cheated on his wife.

    I'm Bill McNeal April 17, 2007, 8:16 pm
  • Except for this atbat. He was dealing.. until right now.
    Hit (should have been a striekout and then a groundout), and now a walk.

    Dionysus April 17, 2007, 8:17 pm
  • Gonzo would have turn that into a double play.

    Dionysus April 17, 2007, 8:18 pm
  • Joe C. now heavily criticizing the official scorer. Says Obervay’s single should have been an error.

    I'm Bill McNeal April 17, 2007, 8:20 pm
  • Bases loaded.. oh this sucks.

    Dionysus April 17, 2007, 8:22 pm
  • Dice-K clearly rattled right now.

    ToddSF April 17, 2007, 8:26 pm
  • Ouch, you cannot, repeat, cannot walk in a run in a tie game. Matsuzaka looks like he’s losing it.

    Andrew April 17, 2007, 8:26 pm
  • Oh damn it.
    Matsuzaka is clearly the best pitcher in the history of baseball! (rejinx, rejinx!)

    Andrew April 17, 2007, 8:28 pm
  • Walks in a run…clearly rattled now.

    ToddSF April 17, 2007, 8:28 pm
  • At least he managed to stop the bleeding with a loooooong fly ball out to Coco. Just a one run lead…

    ToddSF April 17, 2007, 8:31 pm
  • Ugh. Matsuzaka got squeezed in that inning. Could’ve been much worse, though.
    The Sox offense really needs to break through. Chacin’s been waiting a long time.

    Andrew F April 17, 2007, 8:31 pm
  • I like it.
    WMP raises his average 222 points in two at-bats.

    I'm Bill McNeal April 17, 2007, 8:35 pm
  • 10 K’s though. Wow.

    Lar April 17, 2007, 8:58 pm
  • ok- 10Ks… so does this count or is Toronto currently not considered a major league lineup?

    Ric April 17, 2007, 8:58 pm
  • Tek gets a hit!

    Andrew F April 17, 2007, 9:07 pm
  • Chacin is FINALLY out of the game. The Jays going to the pen to face WMP.

    Andrew F April 17, 2007, 9:10 pm
  • Every team is considered not-Major League when DM pitches. Duh!

    yankeemonkey April 17, 2007, 9:10 pm
  • and they do not have BJ Ryan by the way.

    Nick-YF April 17, 2007, 9:11 pm
  • And Jason Frasor is not exactly the most solid of relievers.

    Andrew April 17, 2007, 9:12 pm
  • Yeah, but Frasor has closed with some success.

    I'm Bill McNeal April 17, 2007, 9:14 pm
  • I see minky got his hit for the week.

    I'm Bill McNeal April 17, 2007, 9:15 pm
  • Don’t ask me, my disclosure is that I’m a YF with DMat on his fantasy roster! ;)

    Lar April 17, 2007, 9:17 pm
  • And A(pril)-Rod hit a homer.

    I'm Bill McNeal April 17, 2007, 9:19 pm
  • Sox pitching making the Jays look like fools tonight.
    But for the inconsistent Sox offense, they’d be winning this game.

    Andrew April 17, 2007, 9:21 pm
  • And Okajima Ks the side. He’s struck out five of teh last six he’s faced.
    Did I say I like this guy?

    I'm Bill McNeal April 17, 2007, 9:22 pm
  • Chacin is one of those guys who stinks against about everyone but the Red Sox.

    I'm Bill McNeal April 17, 2007, 9:23 pm
  • Drew to pinch hit for DP

    I'm Bill McNeal April 17, 2007, 9:25 pm
  • …why not wait and PH Drew for, say, Coco? Pedroia hasn’t been hitting for average much lately, but he’s still been getting on. And he could have walked there, as bad as Janssen kept missing.
    Did I mention I have a 12-15 page research paper due tomorrow that I haven’t started yet? I’m pretty sure I have ADD; I can’t focus at all when something remotely entertaining is going on…like, say, a heretofore frustrating Red Sox game.

    desturbd1 April 17, 2007, 9:27 pm
  • Ouch. Rally-killer. And right when Jansenn had lost the ability to throw for strikes.

    Andrew April 17, 2007, 9:28 pm
  • Sh*t!

    I'm Bill McNeal April 17, 2007, 9:29 pm
  • …correct me if I’m wrong, but Lugo lined into a doubleplay. I’m not sure how that could possibly be in any way his fault.

    desturbd1 April 17, 2007, 9:30 pm
  • Alright, about time for some Papi clutchness. I feel it.

    Andrew April 17, 2007, 9:31 pm
  • …Frasor’s one of my fantasy closers. F*ck fantasy, just hit the damn ball!

    desturbd1 April 17, 2007, 9:34 pm
  • Hmm. Not so clutch, eh?
    /I kid….

    yankeemonkey April 17, 2007, 9:36 pm
  • Another great start wasted. Maybe whatever disease Wakefield had just spread.

    desturbd1 April 17, 2007, 9:38 pm
  • I look forward to the Yankees facing Matsuzaka and actually taking advantage of bases-loaded situations.

    Andrew April 17, 2007, 9:40 pm
  • Ehhh, I wouldn’t be so sure, Andrew. They had bases loaded against the A’s a few times this weekend and came away with nothing. It’s a cliche, but it’s true – sometimes you just have to give credit to the pitcher.

    yankeemonkey April 17, 2007, 9:44 pm
  • …I look forward to Boston facing Wright/Igawa/whoever and actually taking advantage of nobody AA pitchers who walk as many guys as they strike out.

    desturbd1 April 17, 2007, 9:45 pm
  • DMat deserves better than 2-1..

    Lar April 17, 2007, 9:49 pm
  • Err, 1-2, of course..

    Lar April 17, 2007, 9:50 pm
  • Uh oh, my theory is getting a very quick test.

    Andrew April 17, 2007, 9:53 pm
  • Crap.
    10 bucks says half of Chacin’s wins this season come against the Red Sox.

    I'm Bill McNeal April 17, 2007, 9:54 pm
  • feast or famine

    Ric April 17, 2007, 9:58 pm
  • Apparently Yanks are clutch at inducing errros by the other team. But hey, whatever works…
    How come both game threads are mostly dead?

    yankeemonkey April 17, 2007, 10:00 pm
  • I have a theory. You guys can tell me if it’s ridiculous or not.
    I think Daisuke couldn’t pitch from the set tonight. When there weren’t any runners on base, he was pitching fine from the windup. But once runners got on, he started throwing all over. For whatever reason, his pitches from the set were FUBAR.
    His windup is very slow and methodical, but his set is quick and sudden. I think he’s having trouble with it.
    Does that make sense?

    Kazz April 17, 2007, 10:04 pm
  • So let’s recap:
    -We hold the Jays to 3 hits total, while having 7 ourselves.
    -Our pitchers strike out 13 and the middle relievers don’t walk anyone or give up a hit.
    -No errors.
    -Manny makes solid contact all game.
    -Coco Crisp rebounds to the tune of 2 hits.
    -Wily Mo Pena nearly knocks the restaurant down.
    -Daisuke, by any real scale, outpitches Chacin.
    And we lose. Figures.
    Today is the exception, not the norm. The Jays got lucky that Daisuke lost it for a short while in the 4th and our bats couldn’t get the hit at the right time. I’m not worried, on any regular day this is an easy win.

    Steve April 17, 2007, 10:13 pm
  • Yeah, I guess if there’s such thing as a good loss, this would be one.
    A good loss being something totally unique to baseball, of course.

    Kazz April 17, 2007, 11:51 pm
  • Matsuzaka after the game: “”Even if I pitch well and the team does not win, I’m definitely not happy with that result.” “We had come in here having won a few games in a row and I’m very disappointed that we couldn’t keep that streak going. The weight of that loss as a team weighs upon me much more heavily than my own loss as a pitcher.”
    He’s saying pretty much the same thing most starters would say if they were in his position right now…dunno if Japanese ballplayers speak formally as a matter of routine or what, but Japanese-English translations, when done properly, always sound so damn cool.
    Oh, and Okajima…yeah, I’m thinking he might be a fairly useful weapon against a certain lefty-heavy AL East rival. Talk about being on a roll; since that first game hiccup: 5 scoreless, 0 hits, 1 BB, 5 K’s, 0 runs. And he’s been facing considerably more right-handers then left; I know the expectation was that he’d be above-average his first time through and probably get hit around a bit by the end of his deal…but he’s definitely exceeded my own expectations thus far. I’m thinking that right now, if Timlin doesn’t show he’s back to form, Okajima’s got to be the favorite to supplant him as the bridge to Papelbon.
    Also good to see Pineiro put together back-to-back solid appearances after that Texas debacle.

    desturbd1 April 18, 2007, 1:16 am
  • Frustrating game to watch, but not brutal or anything.

    Devine April 18, 2007, 8:30 am
  • Is DiceK this year’s Wakefield (i.e., no run support)?

    Hudson April 18, 2007, 8:55 am
  • I doubt it. I think it was just bad luck. First, Felix Hernandez was completely on and pitched the 1-hit CG, and last night, we got plenty of hits, but never when we needed one. I don’t think anybody expected the bases-loaded BB to be the winning run.
    At what point are we allowed to start worrying about Manny? Do we have to wait until May again or can we start now?

    Kazz April 18, 2007, 9:04 am
  • Don’t look now but Chase Wright and Daisuke have the same amount of wins.
    What? What did I say that’s so controversial? Just a little needling, nothing inciteful.

    Triskaidekaphobia April 18, 2007, 9:11 am
  • Well he seems to always have a cold April no matter what kind of spring he has or what he does after. He tends to have a really hot month (chiefly August or September) to balance it out.
    Maybe we’re just so used to the pattern as a whole that we don’t really give it a second glance. He tends to pick it up at the end of April or the beginning of May.

    Scott SF April 18, 2007, 9:15 am
  • I’ll match your needling, Trisk!
    Beckett has as many wins as the entire Yankee starting rotation, combined.

    Scott SF April 18, 2007, 9:19 am
  • Ok Ok you got me Scott, but how about this:
    *The much maligned (around here at least) Melky has two more hits then Coco. (And we didn’t have to trade Andy Marte for him)
    *Jorge has more then double the RBI’s and Hits of your fearless captain and his batting average is 150 points LOWER then Jorge’s.
    *Finally after losing 60% of the starting staff, the starting LF and using a Double A pitcher and still we are seperated by 1.5 games.
    I am just needling, that’s all.

    Triskaidekaphobia April 18, 2007, 9:30 am
  • Boston Fan Disguised as a Yankee Fan in Boston Marathon
    For 26.2 miles yesterday, my white cap with blue brim kept the rain out of my face, and my Derek Jeter T-shirt announced to spectators and runners along the Boston Marathon route that I was one of the Evil Empire.
    To be clear, I am a Red Sox fan, and my disguise was a social experiment: to see how an outsider is treated in Red Sox country during the biggest Boston sports event of the year.
    The reaction, as expected, was fierce. Some of the words I heard I can’t repeat. But there were also some diplomatic gestures.
    Passing a bar in Ashland, I was pelted with the familiar “Yankees s.uck!” chant for the first time. A group of five or six men sang in unison and laughed. I smiled back. Then a middle-aged man zoomed past me on the right, announcing that he refused to run behind a Yankee fan.
    This just caught my eye and I had to laugh. I wonder how often a Boston fan gets pelted with insults in the city while wearing Red Sox gear; if I had to guess, Yankee fans are a far more forgiving and accepting crew. What struck me and made me shake my head was the final line, “Boston again? Maybe, but never again in the colors of the dark side.” – I thought perhaps this schmo will stop referring to the Yankees as “the dark side” now that he’s taken so much verbal abuse. Apparently not.
    Yankee fans are more “forgiving” becuase unlike Boston we win something on average every 4 or 5 years. Long story short: They are the Red headed step-child of this relationship, historically speaking.

    jt-Yf April 18, 2007, 9:36 am
  • And if the season ended today the Sox would be playing a makeup game with the possibility of securing a playoff spot, while the Yankees would be getting ready for family trips…

    SF April 18, 2007, 9:37 am
  • I wonder how often a Boston fan gets pelted with insults in the city while wearing Red Sox gear
    Jeez, talk about lazy journalism. You think maybe he could have expensed an Acela ticket and made the trip to find out?
    The answer to the question is: A LOT. This is from experience.

    SF April 18, 2007, 9:40 am
  • SF I would never pelt you with insults, never! Beer and pieces of my pretzel maybe, but never with insults. That just crossed the line!

    Triskaidekaphobia April 18, 2007, 9:44 am
  • Trisk: no offense, but I ain’t pelting anyone, even a no-good Yankees fan, with beer and pretzels – those things cost way too much nowadays!

    SF April 18, 2007, 9:50 am
  • Think of it as an investment!
    I have to tell you, I have a close friend that is a Sox fan and he comes to 1 game per series with me and he never has any issues. He gets yelled at occasionally, but nothing too harsh. In comparison we go to Fenway (usually) every summer and sit in the bleachers, by FAR the roughest place to watch a game. You truly don’t even watch the game you are indulged in “conversations” the entire time.
    I thought Giants/Eagles games were bad…Fenway Bleachers are rooouuugh!

    Triskaidekaphobia April 18, 2007, 9:55 am
  • I’ve been very rudely accosted once in 3 years of fairly regularly (once or twice a week) wearing a Sox cap in NYC. Another time I was needled (but not rudely, IMO), right after the Boston Massacre last year. But I work in lower Manhattan and live in Brooklyn, so maybe if I lived/worked a little nearer the Bronx, it would be worse. What are your experiences, SF?
    Of course, going to Yankee Stadium, all bets are off. I’m not counting what’s happened when I’ve gone there.

    Devine April 18, 2007, 9:55 am
  • I am surprised, NYC has it’s fair share of Sox fans and is usually pretty open minded. I am sorry that crap like that happens. I despise the Sox, but I really know the line of needling and just plain being a d*ck! I have (now it’s useless) a gray road jersey with the number as 1918 and I would wear it to Fenway and to YS. I am a big needler, but really never impose on anyone’s enjoyment of the game. It’s all a game after all.

    Triskaidekaphobia April 18, 2007, 10:15 am
  • Eh, the street razzing is no big deal – you get the occasional Sox-related insult, which is really nothing. At Yankee Stadium, people were grabbing a (not Red Sox) hat off my head, basically shouting at me, really unpleasant. I honestly don’t care if people yell at me at games, just don’t invade my space. It wasn’t really that threatening, but still uncomfortable.
    The funny thing about the Fenway bleachers (at least from my childhood memories of going A LOT, shirking my parents’ 1st baseline seats for the cheapies) is that the fans were, in some cases, equal opportunity idiots. There would be fights between Sox fans arguing about the Sox, between Sox fans and fans of the opposing team, between Sox fans and fans of another team that wasn’t even playing. Between Sox fans who thought one Sox fan had leered at his lady inappropriately. What a place. I totally loved going to the bleachers, it was like watching a sociology experiment. Probably still is.
    And I imagine a Sox fan in the Yankee Stadium bleachers would feel like a Yankees fan in the Fenway bleachers – I have never been to the bleachers in Yankee Stadium during a Sox game. I can’t imagine it’s Club Med.

    SF April 18, 2007, 10:19 am
  • I am being 100% honest, I sit in the bleachers quite a bit and really don’t see the same type of venom as in Fenway. My buddy gets razzed, but knock on wood, we have never had a fight or anything past razzing. Now it’s definitely not Club Med, but if I was a Sox fan (vomit!) I wouldn’t hesitate to sit out there. Since becoming a Dad and getting married I have discontinued the Fenway Bleacher trip, just too much drama.
    Now the RF bleachers are a different story because remember those guys are for the most part season ticket holders, left field is randoms. I am sitting in RF bleachers for the Mets game in June with 2 Mets fans…I will let you know how that goes.

    Triskaidekaphobia April 18, 2007, 10:25 am
  • I think the population of Sox fans in Boston and Yankees fans in New York is about the same. I think a big difference is population. Boston has less than 600,000 total; New York has over 8,000,000 total. It’s much easier for the jerk Yankee fan in NYC to get squelched by the general populace than it is for a jerk Sox fan in Boston. So the perception that there are more jerks in Boston gets rather skewed.
    There’s plenty of fan jerkdom (is that a word?) on both sides of the fence, though.

    Scott SF April 18, 2007, 10:30 am
  • Don’t get me wrong, I love Boston the city and I am definitely not saying there are more jerks in Boston. What I am saying is in my experience and I have been to quite a few stadiums, the bleachers at Fenway are a pretty unpleasant place to watch a game as a Yankee fan. I am also a Giants season ticket holder and I see the razzing the Cowgirls and Eagles get, so I am seasoned in the field of unpleasantness!

    Triskaidekaphobia April 18, 2007, 10:41 am
  • yawn….. this topic has never been discussed before.

    ric April 18, 2007, 10:45 am
  • i’ll tell you one thing, im glad doug m. hit that homer yesterday because it will keep his crusty self in the lineup for the time being…

    ric April 18, 2007, 10:47 am
  • What would you rather we discuss troll, I mean Ric?

    Triskaidekaphobia April 18, 2007, 10:50 am
  • the bleachers at Fenway are a pretty unpleasant place to watch a game as a Yankee fan
    I would never imagine it being anything else, Trisk. It shouldn’t be pleasant (though it should never be anything but unthreatening). You want pleasant, go to Central Park!

    SF April 18, 2007, 10:58 am
  • I sat in the bleachers for one of the ’04 ALDS games v. the Twins (LF side) and some idiot showed up in a Sox cap. Let’s just say he didn’t stay very long.

    yankeemonkey April 18, 2007, 11:01 am
  • “What would you rather we discuss troll, I mean Ric?”
    very clever! ill just have “troll” written above “1918” on the back of my gray Jeter roady…

    Ric April 18, 2007, 11:02 am
  • For that matter, I can’t imagine heading off to a Sox/Yanks game with bleacher seats and thinking “hey, what a peaceful, pleasant time I have ahead of me. Once everyone finds out I root for the Sox, it’s going to be nothing but love, hugs, and kisses”. That would be a little naive, right?
    I would hope that it would be a peaceful, non-physical experience, but I think it’s wise to at least prepare oneself mentally for the fact that you’re going to get razzed, that some of that razzing is going to be off-color, and that there’s always a possibility (remote, I think), that someone invades your space unilaterally. I go to games a pacifist, do not provoke (whether at home or on enemy territory), as I am there to watch the sport, not to make a spectacle of myself. I keep my mouth shut and root for my own team, and on the rare occasion I have seen the Sox at Yankee Stadium I tended to remain quiet even as the Sox scored runs.
    Maybe I’m a wuss, though.

    SF April 18, 2007, 11:03 am
  • You are missing the point, I am not expecting flowers apon my arrival to Fenway. By unpleasant I mean physically unpleasant, like fans are ready to fight from the get go. I expect the razzing, no problem with that.
    You got me Ric! Waddle Doodle.

    Triskaidekaphobia April 18, 2007, 11:09 am
  • Not missing the point, just fleshing out my thoughts Trisk.
    Truly, the only stadium where I have felt a palpable sense of impending and inevitabe physical altercations was at Bruins games at the old Boston Garden. It made no difference who you rooted for – most of the fights were probably between fellow Bruins fans. It was much more intimidating than Fenway (or Yankee Stadium) to me. My memories of that place are really entrenched in the physicality of the fans. It was crazy, electric, cool, and probably somewhat degenerate.

    SF April 18, 2007, 11:16 am
  • SF you are as testy as I was yesterday…..I wasn’t being confrontational, today we are on the same side.

    Triskaidekaphobia April 18, 2007, 11:19 am
  • Testy!? Not at all!
    I was just trying to offer some more info, I am not at all in disagreement with you – I got your point completely!

    SF April 18, 2007, 11:26 am
  • That’s the gist of my bad experience at Yankee Stadium–physically invasive, but not violent.

    Devine April 18, 2007, 11:50 am

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