That’s Not Settled

Flux = Rad (My poor attempt at a Repoz-like intro).

The rumors keep on changing. Hank doesn’t want to let this Santana thing go.

"It’s still in the deciding process,"
Steinbrenner said Monday night outside Legends Field at the
Yankees’ spring training complex. "We’re
still discussing it. There’s still a little talk back
and forth."

Right-hander Phil Hughes and center fielder Melky Cabrera
would likely be part of a multiplayer package needed to
obtain Santana, a two-time Cy Young Award winner who can
become a free agent after this season.

Steinbrenner said reports that the Yankees recently withdrew
a formal offer to the Twins are not true.

"There wasn’t an official offer anyway. You
can’t withdraw something that wasn’t there,"
Steinbrenner said. "There was no official offer on the
table at this time."

45 comments… add one
  • screw the red sox, they only have 7 world series, we got “26”, can u tell the difference? i can. they won 2 world series in 4 years, and how many times have the yankees won 2,3,4, and even 5 world series in a row? ALOT! the yankees are the best team and will always be the best team, even ask a non-yankee fan whats the first team that comes to mind when thry think of baseball? and they all say the yankees, and no, thats not an opinion, the yankees also have 39 AL pennants, 15 AL east titles and 7 world series streaks. Red sox fans are nuthin but jealous trash-talker that only hate on the yankees cuz they envy theyre talent, the red sox havent accomplished nuthin when u think about it, and they have the nerve to say “its been 8 years since u won ur last world series”…..excuse me! hey red sox…..remember the 86 year curse? i do. what kinda team uses the excuse of a curse, all it was is lack of talent and skill, when the yankees lose a game or even a world series we man-up about it and hold our heads high, but when the red sox even lose one game they sit in the bullpen and cry, the new york yankees ar strong, we dont cry! us new yorkers are warriors, we hold our head up high in any situation, and now look at boston, MA…….Massachusettes is on of the only 2 states that support gay pride, gay team, gay pride, works perfectly…….i remember when i went 2 a yankee/red sox game at yankee stadium, the red sox fans didnt even represent there team, all i saw were little pansies with there heads down with the fear of the surrounding yankee fans, and when the red sux fans were finally noticed, the yankee fans made them cry and fly back 2 bean-town, but now, when i went 2 a yankee/red sox game at fenway i wore my teams jersey wit pride, how many red sox fans do u kno that would do that in the middle of the bronx at 10:00 at night?……NONE! now, back 2 the story of me at fenway, i wore my jersey and my hat wit pride, and all the red sox fans around me just stared and made there little gay remarks, but as soon as i reminded them of our 26 rings all they did was look at eachother like idiots, that shut them up. So all i gotta say is that red sox look out, cuz another reign of the yankee nation is coming ur way so u can run, but u cant hide!!!!!! GO YANKEES!!!!!!!!!!!!! SCREW THE BOSTON RED”SUX”!!!!!!!!!

    #1YankFan/RDSXsuck!!! January 14, 2008, 9:35 pm
  • Wow.
    I think this might be my favorite comment ever.

    SF January 14, 2008, 9:40 pm
  • but SF its totally off topic. Nothing about Santana, Hank, etc.

    sam-YF January 14, 2008, 9:45 pm
  • If I may quote myself from the previous “the Yankees are out of the Santana sweepstakes” thread:
    Mr. Hanky has no credibility. Zero.
    Not only is he making his father look like a pillar of wisdom and restraint by comparison, he also is a butcher of the English language.
    “It’s still in the deciding process”? How about simply “We’re still deciding,” Hank?

    Hudson January 14, 2008, 9:50 pm
  • Well it wouldnt be a thread that mentions Hank without Hudson taking a shot at him. Now a personal attack at the language he used, I have a 12 year old cousin who corrects me like that when I make grammatical errors. Im not sure what he ever did it you but the regularity with which you go after him makes me think that he took your lunch money or something.
    As far as referring to his “credibility” the previous report had nothing to do with Hank or any of the yankees front office. The report was simply from “sources” The fact that Hank later this afternoon said it wasnt true means nothing about him or the team.

    sam-YF January 14, 2008, 9:57 pm
  • scvideogameman23 begs to differ:

    Dirty Water January 14, 2008, 9:57 pm
  • ah good proof that fans of both teams can be equally bigoted and stupid.

    sam-YF January 14, 2008, 10:03 pm
  • You really didn’t have to tell us you’re a Yankee fan, #1YankFan. The moronic rant says it all. Sheesh!!

    JimL January 14, 2008, 10:11 pm
  • Sam-YF, regardless of that video or todays guest speaker, it is my opinion that the differences between the two front offices should be considered today. I do not see anyone in the Boston office acting quite as arrogant and retarded as Hank and crew, but, again, that is just my opinion.
    I really believe NY fans should prepare themselves for another stroll through the 80’s, when George was a raging lunatic and his club played like they knew that too well.

    Dirty Water January 14, 2008, 10:12 pm
  • Well DW, it doesnt seem to me that the yankees FO has made many mistakes thus far this off-season despite all the noise Hank has made. The team is still in excellent shape with a bright future IMO.

    sam-YF January 14, 2008, 10:16 pm
  • “I really believe NY fans should prepare themselves for another stroll through the 80’s, when George was a raging lunatic and his club played like they knew that too well.”
    Yup just like the 80’s except we have a solid farm system, a core that knows how to win and a GM that puts the club 1st. But otherwise I am all ready for the Wayne Tolleson years to strike back. Brilliant comment.

    John - YF January 14, 2008, 10:19 pm
  • As a Boston fan who has watched the progression of both the Patriots and Red Sox once respectable and determined ownership arrived, I can’t help to believe that winning starts at the top, and that these juvinile performances by Hank Steinbrenner are going to ultimately get the best of his team.
    But I guess we’ll soon find out.

    Dirty Water January 14, 2008, 10:19 pm
  • ” I can’t help to believe that winning starts at the top,”
    So by this argument George Steinbrenner was the best owner in baseball- by whatever means you define that – when the yankees were winning in that late 90s. Also, Wayne Huizenga was a brilliant owner who lead the Marlins to a world series within just 4 years of buying the team. Nice try…

    sam-YF January 14, 2008, 10:27 pm
  • #1 Yanks fan, was that you, Carl?

    Nick-YF January 14, 2008, 10:29 pm
  • Well, Sam, I do believe it all comes down to who is calling the shots for those teams, yes?
    Obviously, Huizenga called no shots. He is a hands off owner. But reportedly, Hank is, calling the shots – that is. Time will tell if he can walk the walk.
    No slight to Yankee fans though. I believe what I believe but I would still rather have exist a strong rivalry and not some laughfest regarding a Steinbrenner again.
    Good luck

    Dirty Water January 14, 2008, 10:32 pm
  • Dirty Water, if Hank brings the Yankees the amount of success George did in his tenure, I and all Yankee fans welcome him with open arms.

    AndrewYF January 14, 2008, 10:41 pm
  • DW, you avoided my question with your response. George was certainly a hands on owner and the yankees were very successful for many years with him at the helm. This means he was a great owner no?
    Also, Hank is only partially calling the shots.
    Finally, Wayne Huizenga no longer owns the Marlins and he was quite hands on when he was in charge there.
    There doesnt seem to be much consistency to your argument.

    sam-YF January 14, 2008, 10:49 pm
  • sweet. glad i showed up to the party.
    screenshot taken.

    sf rod January 14, 2008, 10:57 pm
  • “No slight to Yankee fans though. I believe what I believe but I would still rather have exist a strong rivalry and not some laughfest regarding a Steinbrenner again.”
    “Again?” Did I sleep through the years you are speaking of? The 80’s? Where both teams appeared in 1 WS and both lost? Where both teams only topped 90 wins once? Where both teams posted win totals in the 50’s? The eighties were rough for both teams, not just the Yankees.

    John - YF January 14, 2008, 11:10 pm
  • Yeah, the Again even confuses a SF liek me. I can’t remember a time that I didnt fear the Yanks. Even earlier in 07 I KNEW they were gonna come roaring back and they did. If anything the teams are better matched now, which would mean a STRONGER rivalry.
    Also… lets leave that comment at the top. Its hilarious.

    Dionysus January 15, 2008, 1:39 am
  • Looks like Frank from Gloucester left the NetNanny password laying around. Glad I clicked to see the comments.

    CT ball fan -SF January 15, 2008, 8:17 am
  • #1 Yanks fan, was that you, Carl?
    Haha, I read that last night, and just now got it. :-P

    Paul SF January 15, 2008, 9:18 am
  • That first comment basically deserves its own post, it’s so awesome.

    Devine January 15, 2008, 10:45 am
  • Yeah, I tried to break out my favorite sentence and couldn’t because each one got better than the last…

    Paul SF January 15, 2008, 11:19 am
  • I’m not familiar with Repoz at BTF, but I have to show some love for the Pavement reference at the top of the article. Wowee Zowee = one of the best albums by one of the best bands from my high school years. Well done. Good show.
    As for Baseball – Hank seems to be working on a maneuver known as “evasive action”. That isn’t a bad thing, nor is it the exclusive invention of the Yankees. Don’t clubs send out mixed messages all the time, albeit more often through anonymous tips? Hank just seems to enjoy doing the heavy lifting himself. As a Sox fan (or more immediately in this case, a Mets fan) that’s kind of irksome, but I don’t think it’s absent-minded. You can’t catch what you can’t see.

    FenSheaParkway January 15, 2008, 11:52 am
  • Who gets that drunk on a Monday night?

    Brad January 15, 2008, 11:59 am
  • Funny how sam-YF decries “personal attacks” on a public figure like Steinbrenner, but freely attacks fellow posters as “bigoted and stupid.”
    Nice double standard there. Sam-YFs rules:
    1. Multimillionaire public figures who shoots their mouths off, making blustery blanket statements they later have to reverse, undermining their own management’s credibility? No criticism allowed.
    2. Fans who point out that a certain multimillionaire heir’s picture appears in the dictionary as an illustration next to the word “buffoon”? Horrible, horrible haters who should shut up!

    Hudson January 15, 2008, 12:24 pm
  • P.S. Yes, I do happen to agree with George Orwell that sloppy language reflects — and even causes — sloppy thinking.
    So I don’t apologize for thinking that the debased, clich├ęd language which has permeated sports media, management and players alike is a blight on our national culture — one which should be scolded and mocked at every opportunity.
    Or maybe New Yorker’s like sports figures from Eli Manning to Hank Steinbrenner speaking in redundant, meaniningless platitudes.
    Listening to these guys speak is like eating a dry potato baked inside a loaf of Wonder bread.

    Hudson January 15, 2008, 12:31 pm
  • [Correcting own typo: No apostrophe on New Yorkers above.]

    Hudson January 15, 2008, 12:32 pm
  • “Or maybe New Yorker’s like sports figures from Eli Manning to Hank Steinbrenner speaking in redundant, meaniningless platitudes.”
    Sure Hudson, Boston athletes are the model of intellectuality. They all say essentially the same thing. Furthermore, taking a swipe at New Yorkers just proves your insane bias against this city. There are many New Yorkers who are Boston fans, (like SF for example) do they like their sports figures speaking in ” redundant, meaniningless platitudes” too? Your posts on this site suggest that you feel that Sox fans and the Sox themselves for that matter have some sort of level of intellectual superiority. Thats basically insane IMO.
    I posted what I did above because you are unable to let a post that involves Hank (even remotely) go on this site without taking a swipe at him and I dont understand why. For a fan of a team that just won the world series you seem exceedingly bitter and your attacks are unnecessary and add nothing at all to this site’s dialog. They only serve to raise the level of confrontation.

    sam-YF January 15, 2008, 1:58 pm
  • nick/paul- as a fellow carl connoisseur, how can you not read that first post in full carl flare. all hail mr. brutananadilewski.“A bald eagle cried on that day”.
    FSP- never disrespect “slanted and enchanted” like that again.
    brad- um….who isn’t?

    sf rod January 15, 2008, 2:20 pm
  • true enough, Rod. ha.

    Brad January 15, 2008, 3:33 pm
  • That first post up there is just a gift that keeps on giving. It’s like bathroom reading (in at least two senses of the phrase); I didn’t read the whole thing earlier, but I just glance at it now and then, just for a little sample of insanity. The thing about “gay team, gay pride, works perfectly” – I’m totally speechless. I guess this guy’s never been to Christopher Street.
    Hudson –
    I’m totally with you (and Orwell) about the importance of language. But I’m really perplexed by the overall tenor of your arguments against the new Stein. A little obsessive, no? Then again, who am I to get in the way of Ahab after he’s found his white whale?
    However: “Listening to these guys speak is like eating a dry potato baked inside a loaf of Wonder bread.” Say what? So much for perspicacity!
    And, sf rod – I said “one of”. One of! Slanted & Enchanted is still the bomb.

    FenSheaParkway January 15, 2008, 4:07 pm
  • on certain days, my favorite is Slanted, some days it’s Crooked Rain, other days it’s Wowee Zowee. I will day that Wowee Zowee shows Malkmus at his most crazy. One other thing: I love the EP with Texas Never Whispers.
    I’m going to see if we can make a T-shirt or coffee mug using the first comment’s text. Maybe a two-sided T-shirt?

    Nick-YF January 15, 2008, 4:15 pm
  • My favorite part is the beginning:
    they only have 7 world series, we got “26”
    Why did he put 26 in quotes? Does he think that 26 isn’t a number, and is instead a figure of speech? Does he think the exact number of championships is unknown, and is up for debate?
    I also like the part about New Yorkers being warriors who never cry.

    Atheose January 15, 2008, 4:26 pm
  • “Then again, who am I to get in the way of Ahab after he’s found his white whale?”

    The Sheriff (Andrews) January 15, 2008, 4:57 pm
  • Wow.
    I kind of want the guy to stick around and keep posting, I’m sure he has some more amazing gems of wisdom.

    LocklandSF January 15, 2008, 5:04 pm
  • “I’m totally with you (and Orwell) about the importance of language.”
    FSP- Arent you a New Yorker? Hudson wouldnt believe this statement is true in that case. Somehow he can lump all 8 mil+ residents of this city into one category…

    sam-YF January 15, 2008, 5:07 pm
  • Ok, ok, I think this is my favorite:
    how many times have the yankees won 2,3,4, and even 5 world series in a row? ALOT!
    See, because I don’t really know, but I know it’s ALOT! ALOT more than the REDSUX have even won, those crying babyish babies who pooped their diapers and ahve to ask mommy to change them at 10 pm in the Bronx…
    Wait, what?

    Paul SF January 15, 2008, 5:33 pm
  • Sheriff – Call me Ishmael (Valdez).
    Sam – Well, I DO live in New York. Does that ipso facto make me a New Yorker? I still have my Hawai’i driver’s license and I haven’t lived there in years.
    But The Hud doesn’t have to take my word for it when it comes to New Yorkers against the butchery of English. I seem to recall learning about two or three in school who were quite successful at writing on a professional basis. Allan Ginsberg, Edna St. Vincent Millay, e.e. cummings (okay, perhaps not the best source for traditional orthography), and probably a couple more.
    Herman Melville!

    FenSheaParkway January 15, 2008, 5:43 pm
  • the comment is classic ignorance…let it go at that…what i find humorous and somewhat unsettling is sox-fans obsession with it…look at all the rebuttals…sf will come unglued with this observation i’m sure, but you sox-fans, all of you, still aren’t satisfied…the person that made the comment is an ignorant bigot, but his message is that you guys are obsessed, and 2 wins in 4 years isn’t enough… good luck hoping the sox catch the yanks for all time supremacy…it won’t happen in any of our lifetimes…me personally, i respect what you’ve done recently, so as a coherent, rational yank fan, please let it go already…let’s enjoy the here and now…

    dc January 15, 2008, 7:41 pm
  • Oh…I thought we’d underplayed it nicely, dc.
    I honestly just found it pretty funny…
    …except the gay stuff, where I want to pound his face in for being a disgusting bigot, but then again, that’s never the best way to battle intolerance. And I have to deal with similar stuff in my office on many days. (My father is gay, BTW.)

    Devine January 15, 2008, 8:45 pm
  • classic ignorance, it was. please permit us to enjoy the classics without the psychoanalysis. if anything, the ability to laugh at such willful ignorance is a sign of being comfortable with one’s position, not the reverse, as you suggest. that not one sf here took it seriously, but rather as a bit of comedy to have fun with on a slow news day, seems to show a different level of contentedness that might not have been present if this were, say, January 15, 2000. Who’s not letting what go?

    FenSheaParkway January 15, 2008, 9:04 pm
  • Don’t worry, FSP. DC wouldn’t be happy if he weren’t chasing the phantoms he sees in Sox fans’ heads…

    Paul SF January 15, 2008, 11:04 pm
  • I am not a New Yorker. I am a Bostonian living in New York.
    At least that’s what I have been telling myself for…fourteen years.

    SF January 15, 2008, 11:07 pm

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