The Beat Goes On

The Yanks have had trouble with the O’s all year; last night was no different. Things got off to a rocky start when Baltimore put up a 3-spot against Chien-Ming Wang in the first—his second rough opening in as many tries. Don’t be too concerned; the O’s got some help from some sloppy play (incliuding a WP from Wang). Wang settled down, and with the aid of dingers from Betemit and Abreu, was poised for a win. He didn’t get it. After Joba Chamberlain, hitting the high 90s on the gun, set the O’s down 1-2-3 in the eighth (with 2 ks, both off his slider), Torre brought in Mo to close things down in the ninth. Those pesky O’s chipped and chipped, and were able to tie the game up on a single to right from Yankee-killing Brian Roberts that brought Tike Redman home just ahead of a throw from Abreu. Moments earlier, Leche had nailed Melvin Mora at the plate on a similar play to keep the Yankee lead. Melkster came up big again in the bottom of the inning after he was hit in the back with 1-out by Chad Bradford. Pinch-hitting Jason Giambi followed with a single through the shift to right, moving Melky to third, and a dribbler off Bradford’s glove from The Captain ended things happily in walk-off fashion—perhaps not the most aesthetically pleasing walk-off in Jeter’s career, but we’ll take it. Meanwhile, our cut-and-run Sox contingent missed a gem from Tim Wakefield, who went 6-plus no-hit innings against the D-Rays. He is now 45-2 against Tampa, career. Elsewhere, Seattle won the Hernandez-Santana pitching duel, so the Yanks actually gained no ground with their victory. Seattle’s been rolling of late, and they face some light prey right now. Their schedule toughens up considerably down the stretch.

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  • Melky got HBP in the 9th.
    But how good is Joba? And the fist pump!? Wow. Man, I could watch that for 7 innings every 5th day. I know he’s hitting his innings limit, but I would have loved to see him get the spot start today. When’s the last time the Yanks had a fire-thrower like him? How about never. He knew he was overthrowing and then settled in.
    5 IP 1 H 8 K
    “our cut-and-run Sox contingent”
    I was wondering if a no-hitter from Wake would get them out of their first-place caves. So funny…

    Woosta YF August 14, 2007, 9:13 am
  • My bad, Woosta–corrected.

    YF August 14, 2007, 9:41 am
  • Just to point something out, that fist pump is exactly the type of emotion on the mound some of you Yankee fans rip Beckett and Paps for.
    Me? I love emotional pitchers.
    Wake, 54-2 against Tampa, that’s an insane stat if you think about it.
    I would be interesting to see if there were any other pitchers out there that completely dominate one team like that.

    LocklandSF August 14, 2007, 9:47 am
  • Wakefield is actually 18-2 versus Tampa
    Still pretty good.
    But slightly worse than 54-2

    orangewarrior August 14, 2007, 9:51 am
  • I rip Beckett because he insists on every month or so throwing at a batter or screaming at someone on the field for not playing the game the right way.
    Paps is only ripped for that silly face he makes right before he pitches. It’s ridiculous.
    That stat has to be hyperbole. If Wake has 45 wins against one team, why isn’t he closer to 300 wins?

    Nick-YF August 14, 2007, 9:53 am
  • Err, isn’t this the same type of emotion that SF’s rip Jeter for? =P
    For me, it doesn’t matter either way, as long as they get the job done. Joba is something to watch though, and if this continues..

    Lar August 14, 2007, 9:54 am
  • I believe that 75% of YanksFans ripped on K-Rod in the “Players I hate” thread also for these same tactics.

    NeffSox August 14, 2007, 9:54 am
  • Ya, I don’t know where that stat come from.. maybe “the Sox are 45-2 in games he started”? Might make more sense, kind of, but that’s a lot of no decisions (all in his favor!)

    Lar August 14, 2007, 9:55 am
  • Yeah, even to me that sounded a little funny, but he’s been so dominant against them it actually did sound possible.

    LocklandSF August 14, 2007, 9:56 am
  • Are we comparing what K-Rod does every time out to the fist pump and scream of Joba in his first appearance at Yankee Stadium?! You guys are reaching.

    Nick-YF August 14, 2007, 9:56 am
  • I dislike KRod, but he’s always the last person you see against those damn Angels. =P

    Lar August 14, 2007, 9:57 am
  • “Are we comparing what K-Rod does every time out to the fist pump and scream of Joba in his first appearance at Yankee Stadium?!”
    So if Joba continues to do this, Yanks fans will be against it, but if it is just for this one time, its ok?

    NeffSox August 14, 2007, 9:59 am
  • Also, didn’t SF’s said Duncan should “act like he’s been here”? How is that different?
    Joba hasn’t been here. And it’s hard to imagine someone be “cool” (other than Wang) in front of a 55k home crowd all chanting your name in a one-run game.
    Also, Becks does all this stuff while telling everyone to play the game right..

    Lar August 14, 2007, 9:59 am
  • If Joba divas on the mound everytime out, then us Yanks fans will have to have a discussion with him. Hasn’t happened so far, but thanks for alerting us to the possibility.

    Nick-YF August 14, 2007, 10:04 am
  • 18-2 is still a pretty insane number though.
    My point about my fist pump comment was just to further show how the same things are viewed differently by fans when it’s being done by a member of their team or a member of another team.
    There is an ingrained hypocrisy that goes with all fandom, I just think some people here seem to forget that from time to time.
    Part of the reason I like this site is that, for the most part, that petty irrational hypocrisy is usually not present in our discussions.
    Most conversations between Yankee fans and Red Sox fans on other sites and offline pretty much consist of only irrational sound bites.

    LocklandSF August 14, 2007, 10:07 am
  • The fist pump is only allowed from real men. Joba could kick the crap out of Beckett and Papelbon. Ergo – he can fist pump when ever he wants. Just so long as he doesn’t blather on about playing the game the right way. Or make stupid faces at his catcher.
    Meanwhile, I love his straight lid. All that’s missing is the sticker.

    Woosta YF August 14, 2007, 10:09 am
  • but it isn’t hypocritical in this case. There really is no comparison between his emotion in that case and K-Rod’s dance steps, or Paps’ hilarious faces (and really, Yanks fans don’t rip him so much as make fun of him in this case), or Beckett’s Quixotic mission to make everything pure again in baseball.

    Nick-YF August 14, 2007, 10:11 am
  • Farnsworth can fist pump everytime he throws a pitch, because he could kick the crap out of all three

    NeffSox August 14, 2007, 10:12 am
  • Now that would be hilarious if Farnworth fist pumped after every pitch. There would be a performance art quality to it.

    Nick-YF August 14, 2007, 10:14 am
  • “Paps’ hilarious faces (and really, Yanks fans don’t rip him so much as make fun of him in this case), or Beckett’s Quixotic mission to make everything pure again in baseball.”
    Nick, this is exactly my point. First, Paps does the fist pump too on the final out and yes, Yankee fans have ripped him for it.
    Second, Beckett has made comments only a couple of times, and because he’s not on your team, you have made it “every month or so” and a “Quixotic mission.”
    Which it simply isn’t, on either account.

    LocklandSF August 14, 2007, 10:19 am
  • Then Wily Mo should fist pump every time he doesn’t strike out, because he could take all 4 of them.

    LocklandSF August 14, 2007, 10:22 am
  • Wily Mo 2007 Fist Pumps = 6

    Anonymous August 14, 2007, 10:25 am
  • Screw you Typepad

    Anonymous August 14, 2007, 10:26 am
  • Do I rip Wakefield? Do I rip Lowell? Crisp? Dice-K? Okajima?
    I have no problems with most of the players on the Sox. None whatsoever. But Beckett is just a very unlikeable player from what I know of him. Just like Farnsworth is unlikeable. I find that Beckett has on multiple occasions picked fights with opposing players (is it every month? No, exaggeration is fun, but I’m not exaggerating because he’s a Sock). Paps is likeable in my view but still his face moves in a funny way. The point to me is that, in my case, I don’t feel that you’re original point was a good illustration of fanbase hypocricy. There are qualitative differences between each case.

    Nick-YF August 14, 2007, 10:27 am
  • Typepad should fist pump everytime it actually puts a name on a post.
    \Posted last two blanks

    NeffSox August 14, 2007, 10:27 am
  • Ha! This fist pump stuff is brilliant.
    Schilling should fist pump every time he gets a pitch above 90 MPH.
    Jeter should fist pump every time he makes a play to his left.
    Gagne should fist pump when he only allows one run to scroe.

    Devine August 14, 2007, 10:31 am
  • I agree that Joba doing it last night is a poor example, but a lot of Red Sox fans wouldn’t see it that way, just like a lot of Yankee fans wouldn’t see it that way if the roles were reversed.
    Now, don’t even get me started on how Yankee fans have gone on about how rookies should just go about their business quietly. :-)

    LocklandSF August 14, 2007, 10:36 am
  • Yansfan vs Soxfan should pump its fist every day that passes without some sort of fanbase hypocrisy

    NeffSox August 14, 2007, 10:39 am
  • Boston Fans and Yankee Fans
    By Gordon Edes, Globe Staff | August 14, 2007
    There was some Red Sox bashing in the air over the weekend, some that didn’t have anything to do with Eric Gagné, Terry Francona, or Theo Epstein.
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    Orioles broadcaster Joe Angel ripped Fenway Park during the Sox-Orioles game Sunday, calling it a “toilet,” while in Anaheim, Angels outfielder Gary Matthews Jr. made certain his visit to Boston this weekend won’t be overlooked, as he ripped Sox fans.
    “They’re loud, they’re drunk, they’re obnoxious,” Matthews told a cluster of reporters, according to Mike DiGiovanna of the Los Angeles Times.
    “They’re one of the few places you’ll hear racial comments . . . it’s just different.”
    Matthews, who actually said he enjoyed playing in Boston and was smiling through much of his riff, was responding to a question about why the Angels have fared so poorly on their visits here. Since May 18, 2003, the Angels are 4-15 at Fenway.
    “It’s different from New York,” said Matthews. “Yankee fans are passionate about their teams, but they’re a little more couth. They have a little more class than Boston fans. At least in New York they appreciate guys who play the game hard and play the game right and they let you know it.
    “In Boston, they just smack you for three straight days. They’re just dogging you there the whole time. It’s a different place.”
    Meanwhile, veteran broadcaster Angel, responding to characterizations of Oriole Park at Camden Yards as “Fenway South” because of all the Sox fans there this weekend, said that was an insult to Camden Yards, which is a “beautiful ballpark” while Fenway is “basically a toilet.”
    Several Sox fans listening to the Orioles broadcast e-mailed the Globe to note Angel’s remark.

    Jp-Yf August 14, 2007, 10:43 am
  • Yeah, I saw that earlier toda JP-Yf. Laughably stoopid.

    Devine August 14, 2007, 10:44 am
  • So couth!
    Just an absurd comment from Gary.
    Why is it that both Gary and Barry think that it’s racist when people yell at them for using steroids?

    LocklandSF August 14, 2007, 10:51 am
  • Fist pump when an honest-to-goodness (and impartial) major leaguer confirms what all Yankee fans know! :)

    Woosta YF August 14, 2007, 10:54 am
  • Fist pump whenever Woosta posts!

    Devine August 14, 2007, 10:57 am
  • Yeah Woosta, you’re so right, Yankee stadium is a just a nice collection of ladies and gentlemen in their Sunday best, respecting all races and creeds, only supporting their team in the right way.
    Woosta, have you ever even been to Yankee Stadium?

    LocklandSF August 14, 2007, 10:59 am
  • Fist pump every time a YFSF thread doesn’t devolve into a flame-off!
    Personally, I couldn’t care less who fist pumps and when. KRod’s histrionics are annoying because (1) He’s on the Angels and (2) It’s far more than just a fist pump…all that gyrating and heavenward pointing is silly.

    yankeemonkey August 14, 2007, 11:05 am
  • A better question LocklandSF is why do Bostonians act like they’re in the Jim Crow South?

    snowballa August 14, 2007, 11:06 am
  • Hearing radio reports that Phil Rizzuto passed away. Sad news.

    Nick-YF August 14, 2007, 11:07 am
  • And SHAME on anyone who uses racist comments towards any of the players, New York and Boston alike. Just goes to show that racism is still alive in 2007 contraire to what most Caucasians would like to think.

    snowballa August 14, 2007, 11:08 am
  • Fist pump whenever SF’s are knee deep in paranoia!
    My god, you guys are wound tight – for a first place team (by four games!) with the best record in baseball.
    Fist pump whenever SF bloggers go on hiatus cause they can’t handle losing!

    Woosta YF August 14, 2007, 11:08 am
  • snowbella – why? Cause the only black faces they see are on the field.
    At Yankee Stadium a whole section would turn around and point you out if you ever threw around racist screams.

    Woosta YF August 14, 2007, 11:10 am
  • My point, snowballa, is that Gary is talking out of his ass.

    LocklandSF August 14, 2007, 11:11 am
  • please, can we not take this conversation in this direction? The likelihood of racism in America (a very real fact of everyday existence) being discussed intelligently on a rivalry site is less than 0%.

    Nick-YF August 14, 2007, 11:14 am
  • And Woosta has now proven him self, beyond a shred of doubt, to be nothing more than a troll that has obviously never set foot in either Yankee Stadium or Fenway Park.

    LocklandSF August 14, 2007, 11:14 am
  • July 3 vs MIN: 7 IP, 4 H, 0 R Quality Start
    July 8 vs LAA: 6.1 IP, 5 H, 0 R Quality Start
    July 14 vs TB: 6 IP, 7 H, 3 R Quality Start
    July 19 vs Tor: 7.1 IP, 7 H, 3 R Quality Start
    July 24 vs KC: 6 IP, 7 H, 4 R
    July 29 vs Bal: 6 IP, 9 H, 3 R Quality Start
    August 3 vs KC: 7 IP, 7 H, 1 R Quality Start
    Wang is not an overpowering type of pitcher. That’s why some people questiong whether he can be a “true” ace or not (and without getting into that argument, I think that notion is bullshi*). Wang will go out there, give you 6+ and a boatload of ground balls. That’s what he does. His command hasn’t been quite as good as it was last year, but that could also be a result of the league learning to lay off some of his pitches and not a diminishing ability to throw strikes. He struggled through the first last night and ended up with 8 hits and 5 ER, but 4 of those hits and 3 of those hits came in the first when he seemed to be overthrowing his sinker. He settled down a bit after that. He’s fine.

    Ks August 14, 2007, 11:14 am
  • Fist pump whenever SF bloggers go on hiatus cause they can’t handle losing!
    That’s funny. If you go back a month or so and look at the “comments section” of some of the Yankee gamers, you’ll see that several of them hover around 20 or so comments for the whole game. That hasn’t happened yet this year for SF’s. A “hiatus” from commenting, if at all, during losing streaks can only be pointed one way here.
    Just saying.

    Brad August 14, 2007, 11:17 am
  • Lockland –
    Have you said anything interesting or relevant in this thread? Anything at all?
    (And yes, I’ve been to both fields, many, many, times – being a YF growing up in Woosta will do that to you. And over the years – let’s just say there are many, many more black faces (relative to white faces) in the crowds at Yankee Stadium. Indeed, there are many more hues there overall.)

    Woosta YF August 14, 2007, 11:18 am
  • Cause the only black faces they see are on the field…

    Brad August 14, 2007, 11:19 am
  • You’re right NickYF, I’ll change course.
    I look forward to the next month. I’m not going to shoot at the month like some of my Yankee brethren and say that the Red Sox should be scared. The truth is that they are still up by 4 games and have a good team. Personally, I’ll be happy with the wild card. I am still worried about our pitching both starting and bullpen. It would be nice to see our staters got into the 8th or even a complete game at least once.

    snowballa August 14, 2007, 11:19 am
  • Woosta, you have to be kidding me, so you’re saying just because there are more black faces in the stands there are less racist white fans?
    Your lack of basic logic is astounding.

    LocklandSF August 14, 2007, 11:24 am
  • Ooooookay, I’m just gonna say one thing and leave the issue alone: I have been to 3 games at Fenway, ever. I have seen black, Indian, Puerto Rican, and Japanese people there in my extremely limited experience.
    I know this won’t get me/us anywhere, I’m just saying.

    Devine August 14, 2007, 11:25 am
  • Not me. I fully expect the Yankees to win at a 85% clip for the rest of the year, in sync with Cano and Leche hitting .450 to close out the year.
    Why not?
    I actually love the fact that most super hot streaks are followed by slumps that are just as bad as the streaks were good.
    Again, just saying.

    Brad August 14, 2007, 11:26 am
  • Sure, Lockland feel free to walk into a bar in Harlem and say anything racist that comes to mind. Just cause there are more black faces, don’t let that inhibit you.
    Again, have you contributed any thought or originality to this thread? Anything worth anything?

    Woosta YF August 14, 2007, 11:27 am
  • Really guys? Is this what we’re going to debate? The level of racism between two parks? It’s a whole new level of stupidity.

    Brad August 14, 2007, 11:29 am
  • let’s just close this thread altogether.

    Brad August 14, 2007, 11:30 am
  • Have you done anything but troll with baseless accusations and inflammatory statements?
    You obviously don’t understand my point, I realize it might be difficult to understand something as simple as the fact that just because you might have a few more black faces in the stands doesn’t mean you have less racist white fans.
    I apologize to you Nick for this, but frankly, I’m not going to sit by and allow a person to attack my city and fans base without defense.

    LocklandSF August 14, 2007, 11:31 am
  • More black faces merely affects the amount of voiced racism. Glad you finally figured that out. Are you in high school?
    And YFs – Scooter died. I got better places to be.

    Woosta YF August 14, 2007, 11:34 am
  • Fistpump every time some vastly overrated Yankee kicks the bucket!

    Grim Reaper August 14, 2007, 11:38 am
  • It’s too bad. This thread had the potential for fun.

    Devine August 14, 2007, 11:40 am