The Mole?

Dodgers general manager Ned Colletti told's Jayson Stark on Monday that he ran into the free agent on Sunday night in a hotel lobby and the left-hander told him that he wants to be a Dodger.

Greg Genske couldn't have scripted Colletti's line any better.   Somewhere a Steinbrenner said a bad word.
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  • and here we go again, I almost wish there was no reporting on the hot stove until a contract was actually signed. Coming soon to a website near you, the yankees make Teixeria an offer to make CC sweat….

    Sam-YF December 8, 2008, 8:01 pm
  • Sam, the winter meetings reporting is almost comically bad, but in this case Stark got an on-the-record quote from a real-life GM.
    If you had told me the quote first and then asked me how it was sourced by a reporter, I would have guessed “a front office source familiar with the negotiations”, not “GM Ned Colletti”. At the very least Stark got someone with power to go on the record.
    And it still doesn’t mean much of anything!

    SF December 8, 2008, 8:29 pm
  • “And it still doesn’t mean much of anything!”
    This is exactly it, its hard/impossible to parse what is true, what is leaked for a desired effect in negotiation, and what is true and also leaked for effect.
    Great, CC wants to be on the Dodgers, does that really say anything about if he would sign with the yankees? Not at all. Furthermore, this story just drowns out the slightly earlier one about the yankees second meeting in as many days with the actual player in which they felt positive about. If CC, really didnt have any interest in the yankees, wouldnt Cashman have sensed that by now and moved on?

    Sam-YF December 8, 2008, 9:13 pm
  • I disagree.
    “I want to be on the Dodgers” says a awful lot about if he wants to play for the Yankees. Essentially, it says that he wants to play for the Dodgers, right? But, of course, there are 140 million reasons why what he wants, and what he chooses to do are two completely different scenarios.
    Hey, the idea of CC in NY is a good thing for me, so the idea of him pitching there when he really wants to be somewhere else is even better. I love when free agents let the fans and front office know right up front that their heart isn’t in it.:)

    Brad December 9, 2008, 8:30 am
  • Brad, your willingness to believe in the sincerity of professional ballplayers via indirect quotes from GMs with vested interest in making claims that have no provability and are inherently conflicted is, well, a bit strong.

    SF December 9, 2008, 9:33 am
  • Tell me: what should I believe?
    Let me rewrite it, thus making myself seem less gullible:
    Ned Colletti is a liar – he has a vested interest in CC; statements made by him regarding CC should be taken with a grain of salt. Even if, after severl hours, CC nor his agent have refuted the claim, or even commented on it, it’s probably still false.
    In fact, it’s probably just a business move by CC to let NY think this is true, thus forcing them to up the offer against themselves.
    But, there may be a very small chance the statement was genuine; taking a flier and running with the statement is probably a bad move.
    Better, SF?

    Brad December 9, 2008, 10:00 am
  • But do the Dodgers want to pay him? Who knows? Maybe by the end CC will be a Yankee and the Cano – Kemp trade will happen. Just enjoy the ride.

    DR December 9, 2008, 10:10 am
  • We all are nearly one hundred percent sure that CC will end up a Yankee, so I really don’t see the point in choosing who to believe or who not to believe. That being said, I do believe that CC probably said something just along those lines, and I do believe that he means it, however I do not believe it’s a possibility because of the Yankee money on the table.
    It’s like staying married because of the kids involved: It’s the right thing to do, but is it what is in your heart?

    Brad December 9, 2008, 10:12 am
  • Blind hope has me convinced Sabathia will sign with the Dodgers or Angels…

    Paul SF December 9, 2008, 10:41 am
  • I have the same blind hope re: Tex.

    Brad December 9, 2008, 11:14 am
  • Brad- I just see it as your willingness/desire to see a player spurn the yankees and their cash offer. As I said, its basically impossible to know what CC feels or his actual intentions are. For all we know, he could either despise the very idea of playing for the yankees or have a huge desire to play in New York and is using the West coast/NL thing as a negotiation ploy. The one thing I know is the worst possible negotiation stance for CC would have been to have his agent come out and say “CC only wants to play for the yankees” resulting all other teams not paying him attention and the yankees not feeling the need to ever up their offer.
    Saying you want to play in one place doesnt necessarily mean you dont want to play in another. Telling the dodgers he wants to play for them is a great idea if you only have 2 teams bidding for your services, he is trying to stoke some more interest.
    I feel like a broken record saying this but for his own best interests, it has made sense for CC to wait to sign. I can all but assure you that all of the other big free agents have also received offers that they havent acted on too. Does AJ Burnett not signing with the Braves mean he doesnt want to be a Brave? Tiex not taking the Angels or Sox offer mean he doesnt want to be on either of those teams? Of course not.

    Sam-YF December 9, 2008, 11:23 am
  • Winter meetings open thread put up at the top of the blog.

    SF December 9, 2008, 11:31 am
  • Sam, you misunderstand my desire to have a player “spurn the Yankees” – I just like the idea of a player bucking the norm with regards to these huge contracts is all.
    I could care less if CC goes to NY, and have said many times that I think that’s what is going to happen, and really, I kind of like the idea. However, I admire the idea that a player (like Maddux a few years back) leaving money on the table to play where he wants to play.
    You’re right, we have no idea what CC is thinking, and all we can go on is what we’ve heard, but to that extent, what we have heard is that he wants to play out west, so we are forced to go with that.
    I do not doubt at all that he is using the “west coast” idea to run the price up.
    Most likely, he’s just like all the others: he doesn’t really care what the uniform looks like at all, and as long as the checks keep coming, the decision is basically made.
    The next step is to leak a false offer from a west coast team to force NY to up their offer, which is going to happen, and it’s then that he’ll sign.
    My guess..for about 2 or 3MM a year more than the current Yankee offer.
    I have no desire for CC to use the Yankees at all, no matter how funny it will be to see a player NOT come to NY for huge dollars.

    Brad December 9, 2008, 11:34 am

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