The Low Point: Subway Series Gamer II

Miguel Cairo is batting 6th and playing left field today.

This is your thread for today’s game.

122 comments… add one
  • Miguel Cairo can do anything! Torre was choosing between puting Cairo into the bullpen or starting him in left…guess he went for the latter.

    walein May 20, 2006, 12:54 pm
  • You guys want Willie Harris? You can have him cheap!

    SF May 20, 2006, 1:02 pm
  • JEETS! Scoots through. On 2nd!

    YF May 20, 2006, 1:27 pm
  • Giambi w/ the short fly to Beltran. All on Alex now.

    YF May 20, 2006, 1:29 pm
  • K. Gorgeous pitch on the outside edge from Pedro, after coming in high and tight. His ball looks like it’s really darting today. Should be fun to watch. Hope we can break through.

    YF May 20, 2006, 1:31 pm
  • And wheels already coming off. Christ.

    YF May 20, 2006, 1:37 pm
  • Kaz down on the K. That helps.

    YF May 20, 2006, 1:38 pm
  • Beltran with the double. Cairo didn’t have much of a shot, but sure didn’t do himself any favors out there.

    YF May 20, 2006, 1:42 pm
  • And Wright goes over Damon’s head AGAIN. That was U-G-L-Y. 2-0.

    YF May 20, 2006, 1:44 pm
  • Yanks ain’t got no alibi.

    Bozo May 20, 2006, 1:45 pm
  • And the folly ends with a grounder to short. 2 runs. Moose let down by his mates.

    YF May 20, 2006, 1:48 pm
  • And the sliding grab by Beltran takes a hit from Cano.

    YF May 20, 2006, 1:50 pm
  • When Miguel Cairo is batting 6th, that’s, well, title of this thread says it all, right? Joe’s belief in Cairo’s tiny sample of success against Pedro is most assuredly foolish.

    YF May 20, 2006, 1:52 pm
  • And an easy inning from the Moose in response. This could be a VERY quick game.

    YF May 20, 2006, 1:59 pm
  • Migeul’s lifetime pedro numbers:
    250 .280 .458 .738 (the .458 is slg., the .738 is ops….the .280, that’s right…OBP!)
    Miguel OWNS Pedro!

    walein May 20, 2006, 2:00 pm
  • …and I’m a Yankee fan, I think.

    walein May 20, 2006, 2:01 pm
  • Walein: that’s because Cairo has regressed to the norm over the last couple of years against him. For a while there “he had his number.” Theoretically.

    YF May 20, 2006, 2:05 pm
  • Holy Crap! Barret decks AJ Pierzynski in Chicago! AJ not the most popular guy in the league, but that was CRAZY. Wow.

    YF May 20, 2006, 2:06 pm
  • I think the thing I like most about Damon is how he frustrates pitchers by fouling off pitch after pitch. Great AB.

    Bozo May 20, 2006, 2:08 pm
  • Barrett got shouldered (lightly) by Pierzynski, which was a stupid-ass move. Still, a straight punch? Crazy.

    SF May 20, 2006, 2:09 pm
  • really? Crap…I’ve been getting WGN out here in Frisco…but, of course, not today. What happened?

    walein May 20, 2006, 2:09 pm
  • Some crap here about how Jeter “transcends the numbers.” Yeah. But those numbers are pretty friggin awesome.
    Meanwhile Damon with the SB and then to third on the throw.

    YF May 20, 2006, 2:09 pm
  • Pierzysnki bowled over Barrett at the plate on a collision, the ball squibbed away. Barrett ended up in his back. As Pierzynski walked away from the plate he leaned his shoulder right into Barrett, who bearhugged him and then threw a punch right at his jaw. Benches cleared. Baseball Darwinisim in action with those two.

    SF May 20, 2006, 2:10 pm
  • Wow, I was going to post about the “transcend the numbers” BS, but I thought you would reflexively defend your sweetheart thinking I was attacking him…

    SF May 20, 2006, 2:11 pm
  • and Pedro says “transcend THAT, motherf*cker!”

    SF May 20, 2006, 2:12 pm
  • Holy shyte Pedro is good.

    LocklandSF May 20, 2006, 2:12 pm
  • Yeah, but in Year 4 will he be worth it? ;-)

    SF May 20, 2006, 2:12 pm
  • Jeter Ks. You’re gonna be seeing that Chicago incident for YEARS.

    YF May 20, 2006, 2:13 pm
  • SF, are we comparing team captains today?

    walein May 20, 2006, 2:13 pm
  • Making a Giambi predictions…extra base hit to lead off fourth inning (or walk).

    walein May 20, 2006, 2:15 pm
  • No baseball on TV today for me :-( so I’m stuck at work watching GameCast again… I miss Pedro, though I wonder if the Sox would have traded for Beckett if they still had him…

    PaulSF May 20, 2006, 2:18 pm
  • Anyone read the NY papers today? It’s like 8 copies of the same article, all sky falling on the Yankees.
    As a sox fan, I love this shyte.
    Must be murder on you Yankee fans.

    LocklandSF May 20, 2006, 2:18 pm
  • Which team captains, W? Yanks and Mets? Yanks and Rockies? Pirates and Red?

    SF May 20, 2006, 2:22 pm
  • I’m not worried. As I see it only Jeter and Giambi are playing lights out. And Moose and Proctor are the only pitchers pitching exceptionally well. Yet they are only 1.5 out of first. They are way ahead of last year’s pace. They’ll be fine.

    Bozo May 20, 2006, 2:22 pm
  • bold prediction: Cano hits a homer this at bat

    Nicky-YF May 20, 2006, 2:24 pm
  • Alex on with the single.
    Replay of the Barrett punch. Wow. Didn’t look like AJ shouldered him too much.

    YF May 20, 2006, 2:24 pm
  • Besides writers got to sell papers and you don’t do that by toning things down.

    Bozo May 20, 2006, 2:24 pm
  • Bozo: which pitchers (besides Johnson) are not doing what their careers say they will do, once you factor in age and regressions to means (like Small, Chacon, Sturtze, etc.?) Mussina, if he ends up with a typical career year, can only do worse the rest of the way. My opinion is that the Yankees’ staff is a bigger concern than the offense.

    SF May 20, 2006, 2:25 pm
  • Bozo, all the bad stuff just happend, it’s going to take a bit for it to net out in the records and standings, but any sane fan has to be worried, at least a little.

    LocklandSF May 20, 2006, 2:25 pm
  • Oh Man. Cano calls TO with Pedro pitching. Watch out inside.

    YF May 20, 2006, 2:25 pm
  • YF, you are right: Pierzynski didn’t shoulder him too much. But shouldering him at all was idiotic, and shoulder him he did. Stupid One started the scuffle, Stupid Two escalated.

    SF May 20, 2006, 2:26 pm
  • Swell grab by Wright near the grandstand.

    SF May 20, 2006, 2:27 pm
  • That was a hell of a punch though, you rarely see a guy connect like that in baseball fights.

    LocklandSF May 20, 2006, 2:28 pm
  • Well, once again…walein predictions the stuff of legend…didn’t I predict a “strike out looking?”

    walein May 20, 2006, 2:28 pm
  • Rivera is not pitching like he will. Rodriguez will not hit .270 this year.
    Damon will not hit .270 this year.
    I am not the least bit worried and that is the honest truth. Seems like you Sox fans are looking for something to rest your hopes on.

    Bozo May 20, 2006, 2:29 pm
  • It’s May. The Yanks have some serious issues (Randy, the outfield), but still have to rank as one of the better team’s in the league. Hopefully the ship rights itself with, perhaps, the addition of a few parts.
    Meanwhile, Pedro working his usual genius.

    YF May 20, 2006, 2:30 pm
  • Bozo, I’m more worried about Toronto at this point, but keep telling your self that.

    LocklandSF May 20, 2006, 2:31 pm
  • Yea, you guys were more worried about Baltimore last year about this time. How’d that work out for you?

    Bozo May 20, 2006, 2:33 pm
  • And Delgado puts one over the wall. I remember watching Delgado take BP a couple of years ago at the stadium, I think in 2003, and the sound of the ball coming off his bat–that pop–it was like no other player on the field. Just a huge crack. I thought he’d win the MVP the next year, and even picked him for it in our preseason picks. I was wrong about that, but he remains a hell of a slugger.

    YF May 20, 2006, 2:34 pm
  • Seems like you Sox fans are looking for something to rest your hopes on
    I am on the record as thinking the Yanks can weather the storm, but for me it’s because of their still above-average offense. The pitching staff is quite tenuous, verging on sub-par, IMHO.

    SF May 20, 2006, 2:37 pm
  • I was never worried about Baltimore last year and as far as I remember, it worked great for us.
    We were tied last year, had it not been for the Yankees using yet another steroid user, we would have won the division.

    LocklandSF May 20, 2006, 2:37 pm
  • We were tied last year, had it not been for the Yankees using yet another steroid user, we would have won the division.
    That’s not really fair, LL – we all know the Yankees had at least two.

    SF May 20, 2006, 2:42 pm
  • The Yankees won the Division last year because of the way Small and Chacon came in and pitched. Lawton aside from the home run you are referring to did not do anything at all, he hurt the Yanks more than he helped. I also wouldn’t be so much holier than thou on steroids, just cause no one on the Sox hasn’t been caught you do have to wonder about some of the drop off in performances of some of their hitters the last couple of years.

    Bozo May 20, 2006, 2:42 pm
  • Oh, wait – I forgot about Lawton. Make that three!!

    SF May 20, 2006, 2:44 pm
  • you do have to wonder about some of the drop off in performances of some of their hitters the last couple of years
    I know – Willie Harris’ average has plummeted like 60%, from .210 to .100. That guy’s a big-time user…

    SF May 20, 2006, 2:46 pm
  • Theres that Yankee defense I know and love.

    mattymatty May 20, 2006, 2:51 pm
  • SF, the Lawton 2 run homer against Baltimore is what I was talking about, he doesn’t hit that, they don’t win the division, period, and he tested positive AFTER that.
    Case closed.

    LocklandSF May 20, 2006, 2:51 pm
  • Its just mind boggling that Randolph insists on hitting Matsui second in the lineup. Personally, I think its not the brightest thing in the world to bat Reyes first, but at least thats semi-defensible. I can’t even play devil’s advocate and come up with any reason why Matsui should hit anywhere above seventh.

    mattymatty May 20, 2006, 2:53 pm
  • LL, all the Sox had to do was beat the Yanks. They didn’t do it, stop whining.

    Bozo May 20, 2006, 2:53 pm
  • And if the Sox score 2 runs off RJ on that last Saturday the Sox win the division, in all liklihood. You can’t give this one to Lawton, I find that ridiculous.

    SF May 20, 2006, 2:54 pm
  • SF is right. Can’t pin the whole season on one at-bat. Still, its undeniable that there were (at least) three former (?) steriod users on the ’05 Yankees.

    mattymatty May 20, 2006, 2:57 pm
  • Bozo, not whining at all, just pointing out that the AL East victory last year by the Yankees was, in fact, a fraud, as is every game or title HGHiambi or Sheffroid have ever played in, total fraud. :-)

    LocklandSF May 20, 2006, 2:57 pm
  • LL, when the Yanks finnish ahead of the Sox again this year you still gonna be crying about steroids. Boo Hoo.

    Bozo May 20, 2006, 3:06 pm
  • A-Rod on again to lead off. Need to do some damage here.

    YF May 20, 2006, 3:06 pm
  • And A-Rod doubled off, after the Cano slap to first. Ugh.

    YF May 20, 2006, 3:08 pm
  • Jeez. And we’re going to see Scott Erickson? COME ON.

    YF May 20, 2006, 3:09 pm
  • ‘that will probably be an error’
    Thanks, Joe.

    SF May 20, 2006, 3:09 pm
  • The Miggy and Melky Show! 1st and 3rd for Stinnett (sigh).

    YF May 20, 2006, 3:11 pm
  • Are the Fox broadcasters the worst you’ve ever heard?
    YEAH! Stinnett goes down looking.

    mattymatty May 20, 2006, 3:13 pm
  • And Pedro rings up KS. But that wasn’t really a fair matchup, was it? At least Moose can stay out there, and the pinch leads off next inning.

    YF May 20, 2006, 3:14 pm
  • By the way: can we talk for a moment about the Mets’ headgear? The caps: they need to return to the simple orange lettering on blue claps. None of this black crown/blue brim crap. The logo in blue with the orange keyline is clunky and hard to read. And those awful “airflow” helmets–they really need to go.
    Meanwhile Cliff Floyd dinger. Grrr.

    YF May 20, 2006, 3:17 pm
  • That was so positive, YF. You should get a job with YES. Unfortunately it hasn’t worked out for you. Another homer for the Mets, this one by Floyd.

    mattymatty May 20, 2006, 3:17 pm
  • The “airflow” helmets are ridiculous, not to mention terrible looking. They may as well go ahead and sell advertising space on those things.

    mattymatty May 20, 2006, 3:18 pm
  • Bozo, you’re right, a lot of people don’t consider steriods cheating, they are called Yankee fans.
    Moving on, just busting balls, sorry.

    LocklandSF May 20, 2006, 3:19 pm
  • LL, so weak.

    Bozo May 20, 2006, 3:20 pm
  • Joe Buck: “Cliff Floyd, one of the real gentlemen in the American League.”
    Really Joe? You fvcking moron. Ugh.

    LocklandSF May 20, 2006, 3:21 pm
  • Miggy, Miggy, Miggy.
    Could we drop the steroid bs. The fact is that no one has any idea who from what teams was using. And Yankee fans are not responsible for the players signed by the front office. So can it.

    YF May 20, 2006, 3:23 pm
  • Reese! The comeback is on!

    YF May 20, 2006, 3:27 pm
  • YF, sorry, just busting balls, done and done.
    So, back to how much Joe Buck sucks…

    LocklandSF May 20, 2006, 3:28 pm
  • YF, you may not like it that players on your favorite team have been using, but I think its a pretty serious matter. Saying steriods are responsible for the Yankees winning is definitely a stretch, but I hardly think steriods are “bs”.

    mattymatty May 20, 2006, 3:28 pm
  • And another DP. Grrr.

    YF May 20, 2006, 3:29 pm
  • You may not have been saying that, in which case my apologies.

    mattymatty May 20, 2006, 3:29 pm
  • Steroids aren’t bs. Harping on the Yanks because they happened to sign Sheff and Giambi is. Steroids are a league problem, not a Yankee problem.

    YF May 20, 2006, 3:32 pm
  • Anyway, right now the Yanks have a Mets problem.

    YF May 20, 2006, 3:38 pm
  • Back to the Yankees’ prospects. On what evidence do you figure that Rivera will pitch better than he has? His ERA is about 3, which is decent, just not godlike. We all know Rivera was getting up there in age and due for a fall. If anything, the lack of severity in Rivera’s dropoff thus far is better evidence that he might not regain his former status.
    Damon might not hit .270 at the end of the year, but he’s already playing hurt, and his production with the Sox nosedived after he started playing hurt, so it’s hard to say for sure.
    Nevertheless, I’d say that it is imperative for the Sox to continue winning at a .700 clip while the Yankees struggle because come the second half, renewed health and the trade deadline, we all know the Yankees will be charging back.
    Four errors now for the Yanks — this team is reminding me more and more of previous years’ Red Sox teams…

    PaulSF May 20, 2006, 3:39 pm
  • True… I think the Yankees have an injury problem too, which is contributing to their Mets problem.

    mattymatty May 20, 2006, 3:39 pm
  • Villone Ks Delgado. Villone not unimpressive.

    YF May 20, 2006, 3:40 pm
  • “Not only can they field a better team on the Big League level.”
    WHOOOOA. Let’s not get too far ahead of ourselves Tim.

    YF May 20, 2006, 3:41 pm
  • Paul: It’s a bit early in the season for the Rivera obits. He had an awkward start to the season. He hasn’t been busting a lot of bats lately. But he had a rough start last year and turned out, arguably, his best year. We’re still in May.

    YF May 20, 2006, 3:45 pm
  • Giambi greets Wagner with the single on 2-0.

    YF May 20, 2006, 3:46 pm
  • Cano!

    YF May 20, 2006, 3:49 pm
  • Well,I don’t think he’s done. He’s very good still. That’s what I’m saying. I think this might be the beginning of the long-feared/hoped-for decline — because he hasn’t been as bad as he was last year. He’s improved since his rough start this year, but he’s still giving up runs. Maybe he’s not lights-out anymore, is all I’m saying…
    And apparently, neither is Billy Wagner…

    PaulSF May 20, 2006, 3:52 pm
  • Wagner isn’t close to hitting his spots. He looks terrible.

    mattymatty May 20, 2006, 3:56 pm
  • What an AB by Melky.

    Bozo May 20, 2006, 3:56 pm
  • If Stinnett gets on Randolph has to take Wagner out.

    mattymatty May 20, 2006, 3:57 pm
  • That 2-2 pitch looked like a strike to me, but obviously Wagner’s given the ump no reason to give him the close call…

    PaulSF May 20, 2006, 3:57 pm
  • Wagner has walked three guys now. I can’t BELIEVE that Randolph isn’t going out to talk to him. Is he still employed by the Yankees?

    mattymatty May 20, 2006, 3:59 pm
  • Of course it looked like a strike to you, you don’t have a rooting interest or anything…

    Bozo May 20, 2006, 3:59 pm
  • First pitch hits Williams, and Randolph is making the move, one pitch too late… That’s truly a meltdown.

    PaulSF May 20, 2006, 4:00 pm
  • Holy Toledo! Wagner disintigrates after getting squeezed against A-Rod.

    YF May 20, 2006, 4:01 pm
  • Well, of course I thought it looked like a strike. Otherwise, I wouldn’t have said it looked like a strike.

    PaulSF May 20, 2006, 4:01 pm
  • Another Pedro. Come on Damon!

    YF May 20, 2006, 4:02 pm
  • TIED!!!
    Pedro’s Yankee Jinx continued. Moose rescued.

    YF May 20, 2006, 4:03 pm
  • Wagner…you lame *^&$.

    Devine May 20, 2006, 4:04 pm
  • Wagner has officially disgraced the good name of Metallica…

    PaulSF May 20, 2006, 4:04 pm
  • That should teach him to teal Mo’s song;)

    Bozo May 20, 2006, 4:05 pm
  • Pffft…Pedro’s Yankee jinx is about as real as the Red Sox curse was.

    Devine May 20, 2006, 4:07 pm
  • So being jinxed by the Yankees apparently means striking out 17 of them in one game?

    PaulSF May 20, 2006, 4:20 pm
  • Or maybe it means getting toasted by him in the playoffs — twice…
    Sounds like the Yankees have already jinxed Josh Beckett too!

    PaulSF May 20, 2006, 4:22 pm
  • now that was a strike

    Bozo May 20, 2006, 4:34 pm
  • Hey Scott Erickson is up, you all excited, I’m tingling with anticipation.

    Bozo May 20, 2006, 4:41 pm
  • WTF was that?

    Bozo May 20, 2006, 4:43 pm
  • The Genius of Joe Torre prevails again. Phillips with the RBI single and Miguel (Stolen Base threat and defensive cameleon) Cairo scores!

    walein May 20, 2006, 4:52 pm
  • By the way. Bonds tied Ruth in the top of the second against Halsey. It was quite the shot. Nick_YF called me from the game and said it went from the entire stadium booing to the entire stadium and the Athletics bench standing ovation.

    walein May 20, 2006, 4:53 pm
  • Mo sawing bats off again.

    Bozo May 20, 2006, 4:56 pm
  • Wow, what happened while I was gone? Why did Randolph even use Wagner in a non-save situation after pitching last night? Now he can’t pitch tomorrow, an added blow.
    As much as I sometimes crap on Francona, I am damn glad Willie isn’t managing the Sox. Randolph appears to be an average, if not below average, manager so far. Lots of questionable moves. He and Mazilli aren’t doing much for the reputation of the “Joe Torre School of Managing”…

    SF May 20, 2006, 4:57 pm
  • Maybe I’m just an SOB, but I don’t understand that. If you hate the man enough to boo him every at-bat, why do you suddenly cheer when he hits a milestone HR?
    It’s one thing if it’s simply a rivalry hatred, but presumably A’s fans hate Bonds for the same reasons the rest of the country does — steroids, which make the legitimacy (and applause-worthiness) of that home run questionable at best. Just an odd phenomenon.

    PaulSF May 20, 2006, 4:58 pm
  • Floyd is getting on my last nerve.

    Bozo May 20, 2006, 4:59 pm
  • Looks like Mo is ok after all

    Bozo May 20, 2006, 5:01 pm
  • Looks like Mo is ok after all

    Bozo May 20, 2006, 5:02 pm
  • Also looks like the reports of the Yankees demise may have been a tad bit premature.

    Bozo May 20, 2006, 5:02 pm
  • Who reported their demise? Certainly not many SFs…
    Or are you railing against chicken little YFs, Bozo?

    SF May 20, 2006, 5:14 pm

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