Trade Leche?

Pete Abraham thinks the time is right. Specifically, he thinks that if Melky Cabrera can bring a quality reliever, it would be a deal worth doing.

As tremendously popular as Cabrera was last season, I have to say that it sounds like a good idea. At least until the next time Johnny bangs off a wall while running flat out or Hideki takes a pitch off his wrist.

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  • Hey, I don’t mean to break topic, but I just read on DD that Joe Castiglione has been replaced in the Red Sox radio booth. I tried to find some audio on the new guy from Florida, but came up empty. I don’t know about the rest of you guys, but I loved the tandem of Joe and Jerry. It’s going to be weird for me next year.
    On this topic: If the Yanks trade Melky, it’s a good move. Especially for a guy that is probably one of the more dominant lefty guys out there. How nice would it be for YF’s to have this guy, and not a Mike Myers type, to come in and pitch to Ortiz in a one run game in July? I am sincerely hoping that the Red Sox offer up something better, or the Yanks love affair with Melky keep him on the bench next year. If they pull the trigger, it’s a great move for them.

    Brad December 17, 2006, 10:36 am
  • Don’t trade Leche! The Yanks bullpen is already strong, and there are arms in the minors. With the team’s age, they need a quality bench player. Melky bats from both sides, is patient, clutch, brings energy, plays excellent defense, and is beloved by fans and teammates! Do not trade such a valuable chit for a 2-out guy who may end up with a sore wing at any time.
    SAVE MELKY!!!!!

    YF December 17, 2006, 10:45 am
  • Is it worth it to keep Melky if Boston ends up with him? I’m simply playing the Devil’s Advocate here, but what if the guy ends up being a lights out closer for Boston next year to the tune of 38 of 41 in saves? If that’s the case, was it still worth it to keep around a once-a-week, or so, fourth outfielder, who in reality isn’t going to get constant playing time without a serious injury?
    I think if the offer is on the table, the Yankees have to take it in order to keep this kid out of Boston. If you’ve seen tape of MG, you know he’s absolutely filthy. He neutralizes big bats, and Boston and NY sure have a few of them.
    Something to think about, because we all know what an effective closer brings to a team.

    Brad December 17, 2006, 11:31 am
  • Trust me, though: I’m all for Melky staying in NY and sitting on the bench while MG comes to Boston or somewhere else.

    Brad December 17, 2006, 11:32 am
  • The Sox had a lights-out closer last year, and it didn’t exactly help, now did it? (Kidding!)
    The Yanks need to worry about themselves first, and the Sox second. A weak bench has been a (nearly catastrophic) flaw in recent years. That Yankee outfield is not young, and 2/3rds of it spent considerable time on the bench last year. (3/3rds, is you count Sheff.)
    The Yanks already have the top closer in baseball, and between Farns, Proctor, Bruney, Britton, etc plenty of pen power, not counting blue chip prospect Humberto Sanchez, who, it appears, will be closing in Columbus. Plus J. Brent Cox.
    Bench depth is crucial. The only positive here, is that at least Cash, by Dangling Melky, has jacked up the price for Boston.

    YF December 17, 2006, 11:45 am
  • Okay, I can see both sides of the arguement here. Plus, I’ve already said I’m a much bigger fan of the Yankees with Melky than the Yankees with a stronger bullpen. Melky means nothing to the immediate squad at this point. Yes, he’s a valuable bench commodity, but that lights-out lefty is much more dangerous if everything goes well for their OF.
    Why keep a guy, that in reality, isn’t as good as Tabata, and probably won’t play that much?
    Anyhow, I see your argument and respect it. I have the same feelings and opinions on some of the Red Sox young players:)

    Brad December 17, 2006, 11:51 am
  • JOe Castiglione isnt going anywhere, however Jerry Trupiano will no longer be part of the Red Sox radio broadcasts. Next season Boston is going to a three man team with the additions of Dave O’Brien and Glenn Geffner.

    TJ Sox Fan December 17, 2006, 12:10 pm
  • Gotcha, TJ. Thanks for that. I’m a little better with that situation than the one I incorrectly posted earlier. :)

    Brad December 17, 2006, 12:14 pm
  • Jose Tabata looks very promising….but he’s never played above AA, and hasn’t developed his power yet. It looks like he’s going to be a player, but, realistically, he’s not ML viable until 2008.

    YF December 17, 2006, 12:14 pm
  • Wait, that sounds exactly like the description of another Yankee prospect eveyone has penciled in for a few starts later this year, no?

    Brad December 17, 2006, 12:22 pm
    Just my two cents.

    Sam December 17, 2006, 12:42 pm
  • I think it’s a bit harder for a batter to make that jump, than a pitcher, and Hughes is a very, very special case. Anyway, he’s not likely to arrive until midway through the season, and only after he’s had some AAA innings under his belt.

    YF December 17, 2006, 12:42 pm
  • I think it’s a bit harder for a batter to make that jump, than a pitcher, and Hughes is a very, very special case. Anyway, he’s not likely to arrive until midway through the season, and only after he’s had some AAA innings under his belt.

    YF December 17, 2006, 12:43 pm
  • Hughes is a very, very special case
    YF, that’s all the more reason to never let him sniff disaster this year. Let him take his lumps when it’s not mattering – in AAA ball. There’s no sense in letting a AL East lineup ruin what confidence he’s built over the past two years, because they certainly will do that.

    Brad December 17, 2006, 12:48 pm
  • I sat trade Cabrera just so we don’t have to hear that ridiculous “Leche with 80 million exclamation points” crap. I’m with Brad though. I’d rather live through 20 eternities of that than let the Yanks get Mike Gonzalez. The Sox have enough arms in their pen and enough prospects in their system that they should be able to put together a package that doesn’t kill them but still tops a fourth outfielder…

    Paul SF December 17, 2006, 12:58 pm
  • I SAY, not sat. Though I am sitting.

    Paul SF December 17, 2006, 12:58 pm
  • Hey Paul, um… well, what I wanted to say was, erm..

    attackgerbil December 17, 2006, 1:56 pm
  • I’m an SF, so I rarely would be caught giving the Yanks advice… but I think it’d be silly for them to give up Melky Cabrera… every team needs at quality 4th (and 5th) outfielder. That kid can hit well and plays great defense, and he’s cheap. That’s not the type of player you should give away regardless of the starting 3 outfielders on opening day or other needs.
    I would also say, however, that the Yanks don’t really have that great of a bullpen. I’m not sure any team does, in this era, but I’m pretty sure the Yankees are going to need better quality than they already have considering the age of their starters…
    They should have saved some of that Pettite/Mussina money for relief rather than give away someone like Melky to get it.

    SoxSpot December 17, 2006, 2:48 pm
  • I’ll miss Trupiano, but looking forward to hearing a different style from the broadcast booth next year.
    “Can you believe it?”
    He couldn’t come up with something better than that to say when the Sox won in 04?

    SoxSpot December 17, 2006, 2:50 pm
  • Trading Melky away is a mistake on the Yanks part. I understand the need for a good lefty in the pen, but this is one of the few kids developed by the Yanks who is able to deal with the pressure of playing in the Bronx.

    Rob December 17, 2006, 3:05 pm
  • The more I think about it, the more I think this idea smells. Hang on to the Melk man.
    I remember saying that completely encapsulated the moment for me, and it’s completely unprintable. And though it involved a rather creative physical position of and a novel use of the world series trophy, it would be a physical impossibility. Anyway, the mood passed, after repeated self-inflicted blows to the the head with a croquet mallet.

    attackgerbil December 17, 2006, 3:05 pm
  • I’m flipping and flopping here, but I still think it’d probably be a very good trade for the Yanks. The only concern is Gonzalez’s health for me.

    Nick-YF December 17, 2006, 3:07 pm
  • His health is a huge concern. For that matter, the health of any young pitching stud in the bullpen is of huge concern when dealing with the tendencies of one, Joe Torre.

    Brad December 17, 2006, 4:10 pm
  • Hey, I’ve said this all along: If the Yankees want to hold onto a fourth outfielder when they could add immediate bullpen dominance, be my guest.

    Brad December 17, 2006, 4:11 pm
  • There’s ups and downs for each. I was really looking forward to seeing Melky be able to spell anyone in the outfield, either defensively or for a game or two. I remember too well the collective disasters of Terrence Long and Tony Womack of previous years. I’m sure I’m forgetting Karim Garcia and Raul Mondesi, but I wasn’t really paying too much attention then.
    The Yankees also have a huge need for a really good left-handed reliever. They had Villone last year, who I think really wasn’t as good as he was lucky, and Mike Myers who pitched about a third of an inning total all year. Mike Gonzalez, no matter what people say about ‘pressure’ and ‘meaningful games’, fits the bill of ‘really good left-handed reliever’. And if you think that the Yankees are going to have a dire need for outfielders in the coming years, you’re kidding yourselves. There is one free agent next year who almost shares my first name (weird ‘u’ in the middle) who I would absolutely LOVE to have. Damon to first, keep on Abreu. Have an awesomely awesome bullpen.
    So I’m torn. I don’t want another Terrence Long/Bubba Crosby/Aaron Guiel revolving door when one of our outfielders goes down, but I love the possibility of the aforementioned future of the Yankees. I guess I’m saying is that either way I’m happy.

    Andrew December 17, 2006, 7:14 pm
  • lol, Thanks, AG.
    SoxSpot: “Can you believe it?” was Castiglione, not Trupiano. I grew up listening to Trupiano, so it’ sad to me that he’s gone, even though his “WAAAAAAYYYYY BACK” call got a bit annoying.

    Paul SF December 18, 2006, 1:09 am
  • even though his “WAAAAAAYYYYY BACK” call got a bit annoying.
    Especially when it landed on the warning track, or went wayyyyy foul. This year, more than others, he was very, very John Sterling-ish.

    Brad December 18, 2006, 9:24 am
  • Trupiano had some memorable ones this past year when concerning David Ortiz.
    Remember the weekend where Ortiz had the back-to-back game winners? He went off on a rant about Papi being Superman and the opposing team (team isn’t coming to mind at the moment) not having the kryptonite for him.
    Or the time when Papi hit #52 (or #53? #54?), which I think was the first days of the Trupiano-being-cut-from-the-Sox-broadcast rumor. He sounded very passionate and a bit angry.
    Both of those moments were funny as hell for me…I think he even had a funny one for one of the spectacular Coco Crisp catches. Anyone have the audio for that?

    Scott SF December 18, 2006, 9:39 am
  • Trading Melky would be a big mistake. Yes I know right know the Yankees only have 3 lefties on their active roster (Henn, Myers and Chase Wright) not counting Unit or Igawa, but even still the days of the Yankees selling off the future for the now are over. They have their closer of the future in JB Cox, so long term Gonzalez wouldn’t be the closer. I would much rather they just re-sign Villone or a servicable lefty for now and hope someone becomes available for cheap before July 31st. This is no Knock on Gonzalez, but I would much rather have Melky for insurance purposes. If I never see T-Long or Aaron Guiel in a Yankee uniform it will be too soon.

    Triskaidekaphobia December 19, 2006, 12:11 am
  • Trisk: you might see T-Long in a uniform as a coach, maybe not in the majors next season, but somewhere in the company. I wouldn’t be surprised in the least. I agree with you on Melky. He’s too valuable to give up for a guy that NY would use as a setup man, not likely to see service as a closer unless Mo has a physical failure. I had too much of a feeling last year that Cabrera has too much “mojo”, “intangibles” (ACK!), “the stuff” to deal him. Then again, why should the Yankees hold the kid back from a chance to be an every day when they desperately need a potential #1 now, considering what happened last year with Mo in September? We can’t expect NY competitors to distance themselves from the race, not with the moves many are making.

    attackgerbil December 19, 2006, 12:21 am
  • Let me restate that, uniform ok, glove or bat in hand bad. LOL. He can coach all he wants! I would have rather seen them call up Kevin Thompson last year. Instead we suffered through T-Long. Guiel was ok, I suppose, but Long was awful.
    As for Gonzalez, the only thing that makes me believe this might happen is the Tabata. I know he’s a baby yet, but maybe Cash knows something we don’t….not saying it’s right, but just a tidbit to chew on.

    Triskaidekaphobia December 19, 2006, 12:33 am
  • I’d like the Yanks to hang on to Melky. I think he is a potentially useful guy right now, and has some potential for upward growth (though I’m no pie-in-the-sky optimist on him). To hell with trading him for a relief pitcher. Relief pitchers come and go. Their performances fluctuate perhaps more than any other type of player. Give up Melky for that? No thanks. Let’s roll the dice on this kid.

    Rob (Middletown, CT) December 19, 2006, 12:49 pm
  • Melky is the read deal. A derek jeter for the post-jeter era.

    tom December 19, 2006, 5:18 pm
  • And since when has the yankees policy of trading up-and-comers for crusty old pitching helped them in the last six years? Look at the Mets: where would they be if they traded Wright or Reyes a couple of years ago for a stopgap reliever?!?!? Melky is a franchise cornerstone talent, hold onto him for a year and watch him develop! Moreover, there is no quantifying the benefit of charisma and likeability that a guy like that adds to a club. I mean, last year at yankee stadium you would see tons of “Got Melky” t-shirts. What rookies get their own t-shirts?
    Release Bernie, his time has passed and he knows it. He of all people should realize it. Damon and Matsui are mid-30’s and will have maybe 2 more good years. For the yanks to get a guy like Melky two years from now it’ll be exponentially more expensive, because they’ll have to spend millions for said outfielder, plus be sitting on expensive contracts for the then-useless matsui and damon.
    Come on people! Look beyond the numbers and think long term.

    tom December 19, 2006, 5:24 pm
  • Wright or Reyes? Really? That’s your comparison? Why not just throw the Tigers and Verlander, The Nationals and Zimmerman, and the Phillies and Ryan Howard for “comparisons” sake?
    Guy, Melky is a nice substitute player, and not much else at this point. What are the Yankees to do, let him sit the bench for the next two years, maybe more? They have a much more athletic, faster, and better offensive kid coming up right behind him.
    Curb the entusiasm here with Melky. He’s neither Wright and certainly not Reyes. He’s average, and may develop into more. Period. If X team can get a dominant lefty out of the pen for Y average player, they should do it.
    What rookies get their own T-Shirts?
    A: All of them.

    Brad December 19, 2006, 5:40 pm

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