Us And Them: Sox-Yanks Gamer VII

The Boston Red Sox come to Yankee Stadium tonight with the best record in Major League baseball and a 10 and one-half game lead in their division that would look formidable in September, but is incredible when one considers they have played only 43 (27%) of their games of the season.  The Yankees, 42 games under their belt, are mired in the morass of mediocrity that is the the rest of the AL East, tied for second and 1.5 out of last.

Boston seems to have not a thing to worry about.  In fact, the biggest concerns raised as of late on this board by Sox fans have been 1) why isn’t Pedroia playing more, 2) will fans please send Ortiz *and* Youk to San Francisco at the break, and 3) why does Steve Schoeneweis suck so much?  The Sox have swagger.  They have intimidation.  They have Big Papi making statements like,  "We don’t have to worry about nobody right now,  Everybody needs to worry about us," and no one can argue with him.  So it’s Boston vs. the Yanks.  Last night’s victory aside (so that’s what winning feels like), what keeps a Yankee fan from curling up in a corner and rocking in a fetal position?  Well, the offense does have its glow at moments, what with Jorge and Jeter doing truly remarkable things in their understated way and ARod hitting bombs again.  It has been a real head-scratcher as to why things just won’t *click*.

Here’s a comparison of two nameless teams’ offenses so far this season.

Stat Team X Team Y
Avg .277 .276
Hits 405 407
2Bs 86 82
HRs 46 47
Runs 232 227

Wow.  With offenses that closely matched, you would think those teams would stack up pretty well against each other for some good games.  Now comes the short, sharp shock.

Stat Team Excellent Team Why?
ERA(rank) 3.44 (4) 4.58 (25)
WHIP(rank) 1.25 (3) 1.40 (18)
Saves 15 3


Well, at least the Yankees get to have the excitement of watching a new rookie pitcher every other night.  After Clippard’s performance on the mound and in the box last night, I wonder should the Yanks stay National League for a bit, but I digress.  On to the latest series, where the alignment of the rotations will see no rookie starters this go round of The Rivalryâ„¢ (barring bathroom accidents, pulled uvulas, locusts, meteor strikes…nothing would surprise at this point) as it’s Wakefield vs. Wang tonight, Tavarez vs. Mussina tomorrow, and Schilling vs. Pettitte on Wednesday.  And the games have been interesting, although Team X currently leads the season series 5 to 1, and has scored 40 runs to Team Y’s 28.  So be it; on with the show.

Here are the lineups:

Boston Red Sox
Lugo SS
Youkilis 1B
Ortiz DH
Ramirez LF
Drew RF
Lowell 3B
Crisp CF
Mirabelli C
Cora 2B

New York Yankees
Damon CF
Jeter SS
Matsui LF
Rodriguez 3B
Posada C
Abreu RF
Giambi DH
Cano 2B
Mientkiewicz 1B

It’s one hour to game time: Go, *insert team here*. Comment away.

105 comments… add one
  • It’s go time

    Rob May 21, 2007, 7:08 pm
  • Lugo goes down looking

    Rob May 21, 2007, 7:10 pm
  • And there goes Lugo…

    Devine May 21, 2007, 7:10 pm
  • Papi draws the walk

    Rob May 21, 2007, 7:13 pm
  • At least they managed to make Wang throw a few.
    Go, knuckleball! (I’m scared.)

    Devine May 21, 2007, 7:18 pm
  • I’m scared too, Devine. I’ve been jumpign back and worht between confidence and fear all day long, with fear predominant.

    Dionysus May 21, 2007, 7:19 pm
  • Yeah, Dio. The palm sweat level over here does not indicate a 10.5 game lead.

    Devine May 21, 2007, 7:20 pm
  • Damn, there goes the no hitter.

    LocklandSF May 21, 2007, 7:20 pm
  • Damn, with the way the Sox support Wake this could be all the runs the Yanks need for tonight.

    Rob May 21, 2007, 7:26 pm
  • I guess you could say A-Rod is a good hitter. If you wanted to be generous.

    Devine May 21, 2007, 7:26 pm
  • The 7-8-9 hitters are…not…good. But you never know on a given night…and I’m glad Coco is down there where he belongs.

    Devine May 21, 2007, 7:31 pm
  • Wang K’s Lowell. Not liking this ths far.

    Rob May 21, 2007, 7:32 pm
  • Wang bringing his K stick. With 2 Ks in 2 innings thus far he’s going to break his personal record.

    walein May 21, 2007, 7:33 pm
  • I’m so happy also, especially with that first pitch pop up.

    Rob May 21, 2007, 7:33 pm
  • Oh look! Crisp made an out on the first pitch! Will wonders never cease?
    (And Gameday tells me it was a pop out now. Awesome. Actually, I’m in fairly good spirits for this game. Plenty of game to go, lots of chances, but man, has Crisp ever been terrible since he broke his finger…)

    Devine May 21, 2007, 7:34 pm
  • Belli with a single

    Rob May 21, 2007, 7:34 pm
  • Hey hey hey, how’s everybody?
    Yanks vs. Sox. Yess.
    Has anybody here wished for Sox victories on their birthdays? :P
    Mirabelli with a single. Cora up.

    Rain SF May 21, 2007, 7:35 pm
  • Hey, some hits! Sweet! Do you like runs, Lugo? I don’t really think you do…

    Devine May 21, 2007, 7:36 pm
  • Cora singles up the middle.

    Rob May 21, 2007, 7:36 pm
  • Just a thought: if its Dougie that catches Wake, does that mean Tek only gets to rest once every five days?
    Gotta be grueling. Then again, Tek is grit defined.

    Rain SF May 21, 2007, 7:38 pm
  • I think the Sox are under the impression you can only get on base when there are 2 out.

    Devine May 21, 2007, 7:39 pm
  • Yes I think that is the case Rain.
    Jeets bobbles the grounder allowing Lugo to reach 1st. Bases loaded.

    Rob May 21, 2007, 7:39 pm
  • Can someone roofie Rick Sutcliff?

    Anonymous May 21, 2007, 7:40 pm
  • Gameday is acting up. Gyaah.
    Drive one in, Lugo! Come on!

    Rain SF May 21, 2007, 7:40 pm
  • Youk with the chance to do damage. Pretty much no hitter you’d rather have there at the moment.

    Devine May 21, 2007, 7:40 pm
  • Once every 5 days is fairly standard rest for a starting catcher, Rain. Plus, he gets a few more days off during the year, with off-days, double-headers, etc.

    Ayuh - SF May 21, 2007, 7:41 pm
  • Sutcliff is easier to listen to than Joe Morgan

    Rob May 21, 2007, 7:41 pm
  • Tech “only?” gets off once every 5 days? That’s more than most starting catchers.

    walein May 21, 2007, 7:41 pm
  • Gar.

    Devine May 21, 2007, 7:43 pm
  • I have to disagree with you about that Rob. Rick Sutcliff DOES NOT STOP saying idiotic things…at least Morgan has a nice voice and will be quiet from time to time. Thank God Wang got that out.
    He’s throwing alot of balls today…not his usual self it seems.

    walein May 21, 2007, 7:43 pm
  • It always impresses me how Youk works pitchers into 3-2 counts. Takes them deep into the count, fouls off pitches, and gets on base with regularity.

    Rain SF May 21, 2007, 7:43 pm
  • Jekr of an Ump. Thats the game right there.

    Dionysus May 21, 2007, 7:44 pm
  • The bad…5 runners stranded.
    Good…Wang already at 44 pitches. We should be able to get the soft belly of the pen tonight.
    Just keep working the counts boys.

    Rob May 21, 2007, 7:44 pm
  • Ouch- Youk K’s with the bases loaded. Tto be fair, that was a nasty sinker.

    Ayuh - SF May 21, 2007, 7:44 pm
  • To be fair the 2nd strike was a ball.
    This is going to happen, hopefully the strike zone will be the same for both pitchers.

    Rob May 21, 2007, 7:45 pm
  • Man. I hope I didn’t just jinx Youk. Sox leave ’em loaded.

    Rain SF May 21, 2007, 7:47 pm
  • Two nights in a row they are “covering” the Giambi crap. Why don’t they cover that GIAMBI HOMERUN!!!!!

    walein May 21, 2007, 7:48 pm
  • It’s the long ball version of Wakefield in there today.

    Devine May 21, 2007, 7:48 pm
  • Ok, now the game is definatly over. Wakes knuckle ain’t knuckling and its gettign pounded.

    Dionysus May 21, 2007, 7:48 pm
  • homerun for the cheater.

    TJ May 21, 2007, 7:49 pm
  • Well, myab ein return for getting the crappy Wake we’ll get the good Tavarez?

    Dionysus May 21, 2007, 7:49 pm
  • Man.
    And with the kind of run support Wake gets, we’re in for a looong game.

    Rain SF May 21, 2007, 7:50 pm
  • You know, I saw a blog post once that debunked the whole Wake run support myth (it’s certainly been a problem since the end of last year, but remember when the Sox pounded Toronto with Wake on the mound and he mowed them down after the 1st).

    Devine May 21, 2007, 7:52 pm
  • Hmm.
    A homerun from Giambi, a double from Cano.
    Long night.

    Rain SF May 21, 2007, 7:53 pm
  • The lone automatic out lives up to expectations.

    Devine May 21, 2007, 7:53 pm
  • Game ain’t over…but 2-3 more Yankee runs and my optimism will have to start flagging.

    Devine May 21, 2007, 7:57 pm
  • As my French Canadian grandfather would say:

    Ayuh - SF May 21, 2007, 7:58 pm
  • Well I am starting to lean towards the edge of pissed the hell off. Wake is throwing BP out there and the hitters are not helping out stranding 5 runners already.

    Rob May 21, 2007, 8:00 pm
  • Keep making Wang throw pitches…it’s pretty much the only shot right now even if Wake recovers (I can’t see, but one supposes luck/flutter isn’t with him tonight).

    Devine May 21, 2007, 8:00 pm
  • 4 run lead.
    Not insurmountable, by any standards.
    Come on, Sox.

    Rain SF May 21, 2007, 8:02 pm
  • The Red Sox have hit Wang well.. No reason to think they cant score atleast 5 off of him before he leaves

    TJ May 21, 2007, 8:02 pm
  • Have a good evening y’all. I’m gonna go spend a precious work-free evening with my special lady friend. Bye!

    Devine May 21, 2007, 8:08 pm
  • And we go down 1-2-3
    Wake starts the inning off walking ARod

    Rob May 21, 2007, 8:08 pm
  • Is this one of those Yanks ass whippins we have been due for?

    Rob May 21, 2007, 8:09 pm
  • No yankee fans here tonight?

    LocklandSF May 21, 2007, 8:11 pm
  • Or it could be a Yankees Collosal Collapse :)

    TJ May 21, 2007, 8:12 pm
  • Doesn’t look that way Lockland.

    Rob May 21, 2007, 8:15 pm
  • They’re working Wang. 50 plus pitches, and its only the third inning.
    Just gotta cash in on runners in scoring position.

    Rain SF May 21, 2007, 8:15 pm
  • Sutcliff is blaming A Rod for somehow orchestrating the double steal.
    I hate Rick Sutcliff.

    walein May 21, 2007, 8:17 pm
  • Yankee collapses aren’t due until October, TJ!

    Ayuh - SF May 21, 2007, 8:17 pm
  • walein – yeah, Sutcliffe said Arod should have held up when he has a bad jump. Brilliant, Rickster! He has also praised Manny’s defense, said there was no way Torre would get fired, and said the Yanks had figured out Wakefield: slow pitch softball. Just what are the qualifications for analysts on ESPN?

    Tom sf May 21, 2007, 8:23 pm
  • obviously some form of an alcoholic drink

    Rob May 21, 2007, 8:29 pm
  • Damon now 3-3 with a single to right

    Rob May 21, 2007, 8:36 pm
  • hehe

    walein May 21, 2007, 8:36 pm
  • Damon steals again

    Rob May 21, 2007, 8:36 pm
  • Coco “soggy arm” Crisp cannot keep Damon from tagging up and advancing to 3rd.

    Rob May 21, 2007, 8:37 pm
  • Good news that inning, Wake with only 9 pitches.

    Rob May 21, 2007, 8:38 pm
  • The conversation between Joe Torre and Terry Francona as imagined in Rick Sutcliff’s head:
    Terry- Fraid Not
    Joe- Fraid So
    Terry- Fraid Not!
    Joe- Fraid So!

    walein May 21, 2007, 8:39 pm
  • Is it possible that Crisp has as weak a throwing arm as Damon? How in hell did he let Damon tag up there?

    Tom sf May 21, 2007, 8:39 pm
  • Yes Tom after that throw it may have been proven.
    Perhaps on a future episode of Myth Busters it can be put to the test.

    Rob May 21, 2007, 8:40 pm
  • Meanwhile, Wang has 80+ thru five innings. Really working him, but haven’t really pounded him yet.

    Rain SF May 21, 2007, 8:43 pm
  • That called strike against Youk in the 2nd inning with the bases loaded really hurt.

    Rob May 21, 2007, 8:45 pm
  • Youki and Papi back to back doubles 4-1

    TJ May 21, 2007, 8:48 pm
  • Rob, if there is a Mythbusters Crisp/Damon noodle-arm episode, which player will Adam be, and which is Jamie? The mind reels…
    Papi thrown out at second by a mile but the ball is dropped.

    Tom sf May 21, 2007, 8:48 pm
  • Papi with a double into right field.
    Papi should have been meat on that play. Abreau with a nice throw to second that Jeeter drops when Papi stops on second.
    It did probably help that Papi bumped into him.

    Rob May 21, 2007, 8:48 pm
  • Wang’s pitch count is more a sign of him not having the control he usually has not any kind of plate discipline. He’s most effective when he’s just forcing batters to swing at strikes and hit them into the dirt.

    Anonymous May 21, 2007, 8:48 pm
  • Another crappy AB by Manny.

    Rob May 21, 2007, 8:50 pm
  • Crisp has a lousy arm, but Damon’s is worse by far. Damon probably has the worst arm in the majors.
    Against the Mets, Damon made a throw from short center field that didn’t even make it to the pitcher’s mound.

    Ayuh - SF May 21, 2007, 8:51 pm
  • And the other member of the crappy AB team pops out.

    Rob May 21, 2007, 8:52 pm
  • Drew sucks. I blame Youk, the onyl bad thign Youks done for him this year, for laying a curse on him

    Dionysus May 21, 2007, 8:53 pm
  • Walks the leadoff batter……again.

    Rob May 21, 2007, 8:55 pm
  • Random Question.
    We klnow he’s fast
    We know he hits like a madman
    But how is Ellsbury’s arm?

    Dionysus May 21, 2007, 8:56 pm
  • That was a very close pickoff attempt on ARod

    Rob May 21, 2007, 8:57 pm
  • does not mention his arm

    Rob May 21, 2007, 9:00 pm
  • Posada called out on the DP and looked safe on the replay

    Rob May 21, 2007, 9:01 pm
  • And Abreau steals, Giambi walked next pitch.

    Rob May 21, 2007, 9:06 pm
  • Sally throws from center, Lugo cuts it off and watches Giambi roll around third and makes no effort to throw there.
    Farrell out to talk to Wake.

    Rob May 21, 2007, 9:09 pm
  • Wake gets Minky, Sox now down 6-1.
    ERA is now 3.14

    Rob May 21, 2007, 9:12 pm
  • And another fine hitting inning by the Sox.
    5-4-3 DP

    Rob May 21, 2007, 9:17 pm
  • Romero now in pitching

    Rob May 21, 2007, 9:20 pm
  • IF wakefield was coming out WTF did Mirabelli bat -_- I HATE U FRANCONA!

    TJ May 21, 2007, 9:21 pm
  • Damon walks to start the inning. He has now been on base all four ABs

    Rob May 21, 2007, 9:22 pm
  • Walks Jeter…great. Matsui heading to the plate looking for a plate briased Romero.
    Looks like the ass whippin is about to hit high speed.

    Rob May 21, 2007, 9:26 pm
  • Matsui flies out to center.

    Rob May 21, 2007, 9:28 pm
  • ARod flies out to left-center.
    2 down.

    Rob May 21, 2007, 9:30 pm
  • Romero walks another batter.
    Bases juiced

    Rob May 21, 2007, 9:33 pm
  • Abreau grounds out…shocker.
    Off to bed, work early in the morn.

    Rob May 21, 2007, 9:36 pm
  • wow…
    sorry i have a job fred, and need to stay late. next time i’ll try and get home on time.

    m.g. yanks fan May 21, 2007, 10:05 pm
  • Crisp walks. Just from observation, he seems to be showing much better plate discipline this season. Dougie goes shallow, but reaches on Bruney’s throwing error. Enter the Proctologist, with two on and two outs.

    Andrew F May 21, 2007, 10:14 pm
  • Not the Sox’s night tonight. Whew.

    Anonymous May 21, 2007, 10:14 pm
  • Alex Cora gets hit by the first pitch by Proctor.

    Andrew F May 21, 2007, 10:16 pm
  • You know, the Red Sox have had plenty, plenty of chances. Lugo and Youkilis have been getting on, and then Papi and Manny just haven’t done much for them tonight (Drew, too). I don’t feel that terrible about this game if it ends poorly. It’s not like we couldn’t figure Wang or the other pitchers out – we’ve just been unlucky in spots.

    JF May 21, 2007, 10:20 pm
  • Rivera only has three saves. Farnsworth should give up a couple runs so Mo can come on in a save opportunity.

    Andrew F May 21, 2007, 10:34 pm
  • Sorry for the lack of contribution on behalf of the YFs…I for one couldn’t look away from the screen, with the happiness of winning being so fleeting and all. Good win boys. Wang didn’t have his good command, but wrung up a few to compensate.

    tom yf May 21, 2007, 11:28 pm
  • Solid win by the Yankees last night.
    I was browsing through the Boston Globe’s summary of New York media’s take on last night’s game and came across Wallace Matthews’ column in, essentially demonizing Wakefield and his style of pitching. Does he usually do this stuff? Is what he saying humorous or satirical? If not, I can’t comprehend this amount of vitriol over a unique style of pitching. It just seems ridiculously off-base.

    Scott SF May 22, 2007, 11:22 am

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