We Have a Winner. Sort of.

I finally had the chance to review the Matsuzaka Contract Pool thread, and have reluctantly come up with a winner. I say "reluctantly" because we pretty much all missed the boat.  Scott Boras played us for fools, scaring us into thinking big money for big years.  The only person to call his bluff was Theo Epstein, and it would now appear that he doesn’t post at YFSF, at least not during sensitive negotiations (I hear he occasionally pipes in during discussions about Tito’s batting order, though).

Anyhow, the "winner" (tough word, that) is (reluctantly):


I know, I know. He didn’t put any numbers down.  And I know he’s a proprietor of the site.  But he did call the deal correctly, and for the right reasons.  But he gets no YFSF goodies, since he owns the place.  Feel free to attack me in the comments for my inflammatory decision. ;-)

30 comments… add one

    TJ Sox Fan December 20, 2006, 1:36 pm
  • I am with you. I am booing myself at this very moment. But what can I do? We all botched it!

    SF December 20, 2006, 1:38 pm
  • Wow. I’m honored to be chosen, though I don’t think my sooth was as soothy as it’s been in the past. Whatever the case, he’s got plenty of cash for Hokusai prints and dinners at Masa when the Sox hit the Apple. More power to him. I wish Daisuke a long and happy career as a 9-win-per-season arm for the Sox, with no success against the Bombers and a career 6.43 era! Bonzai!

    YF December 20, 2006, 1:39 pm
  • Collusion, cabal, connivance, conspiracy, plot, scheme, I cry FOUL.
    It was all a setup I tell you.

    LocklandSF December 20, 2006, 2:06 pm
  • But I don’t get anything out of giving it to YF. No benefit, no conspiracy!

    SF December 20, 2006, 2:13 pm
  • this just in:
    “Paid in full: Seibu gets $51.1M Matsuzaka bid money from Boston”
    so… according to this article, the sox did in fact have to pay actual money to seibu. that money no longer belongs to the red sox. …because they paid it as a portion of the total cost to obtain the services of daisuke matsuzaka.
    also of note:
    the article doesn’t say anything about it not counting.

    Yankee Fan In Boston December 20, 2006, 2:34 pm
  • Weird. I was walking down the street near my new pad in Brooklyn, and there was a pony, bleeding from the head. Looked like it had been beaten to death.
    Brooklyn is a strange place.

    SF December 20, 2006, 2:42 pm
  • heh.

    Yankee Fan In Boston December 20, 2006, 2:43 pm
  • i smell hanging chads and the vague sulphuric reek of diebold corp. even if yf was closest to what the contract was, you should pick someone else to send a mug to.

    cory December 20, 2006, 2:46 pm
  • i know what your saying YFIB. the other nite i paid $20 to get into the faint show. drinks were $10 bucks a pop. i had 3. so actual cost of said drinks was $50.
    i tried to explain to my girlfriend the econo box of snickers i got her for christmas from Cost Co actually cost $175 after you factor in my membership fees.

    sf rod December 20, 2006, 3:31 pm
  • at the risk of discussing anyone’s spending but the yankees’, your night out at the faint show cost you $50, rod.
    if you had an above average night and each drink was enjoyable, it may have been money well spent, but that is for you to decide.
    and you spent $175 at costco. if that was your only purchase there, i suppose her gift did run you that much. i’m sure that she’s worth it. you’ve got to spoil ’em.

    Yankee Fan In Boston December 20, 2006, 3:40 pm
  • Did the econo box of Snickers open up “new avenues for revenue”, if you get my drift?

    SF December 20, 2006, 3:46 pm
  • The Cost Co membership fee should count under “research and development” for the future, and should not be mixed with your budget with other stuff..

    Lar December 20, 2006, 3:54 pm
  • hopefully she’ll be happy with the dice k jersey i got her. she’s very into japanese culture, so i wanted to give her something that everyone in japan will be wearing after christmas.
    she was not into the matsui wrist gaurd i got her for labor day. when you spoil ’em, they end up spoiled.

    sf rod December 20, 2006, 3:54 pm
  • oh, i think that “costco” guaranteed that there would be a return equal to or greater than the expense paid to them. it is an absolute certainty. i even heard that everyone who lives in “hershey, PA”, home of “the snickers”, will be legally obligated to send rod a check.
    it is customary in “hershey, PA.”

    Yankee Fan In Boston December 20, 2006, 3:55 pm
  • So the $51.1M was like a Sox pre-party? So they wouldn’t have to buy as many drinks at the “club”? When you put it that way it becomes much more clear.

    nate December 20, 2006, 3:56 pm
  • heh.

    Yankee Fan In Boston December 20, 2006, 3:57 pm
  • actually, nate… they really did get a good deal on the “drinks.”
    …but i digress…

    Yankee Fan In Boston December 20, 2006, 3:58 pm
  • yeah, rod, i remember when everyone in japan bought matsui gear. every last one of them. the yankee coffers swelled so large that they no longer need to consider their spending.
    unlimited wealth.
    signing him was essentially a license to print money.
    all because of one man.
    it is so obvious, i think that the royals should buy a foreign player. then, their franchise would be rich and they could spend a ton of money without consequence.
    (also, i’d be careful when tossing around jokes about injuries. that’s bad karma. picking on a guy who’d played over a thousand straight games because he broke his wrist on the field? you’d better hope your team’s investments don’t suffer the same fate. …that could be a waste of money.)

    Yankee Fan In Boston December 20, 2006, 4:05 pm
  • It’s amazing to me that Matsui’s wrist was breakable at all, considering how strong it must have been as a collateral benefit from his famed “hobby”.

    SF December 20, 2006, 4:09 pm
  • Nick YF guessed 6 years $52 mil. Sounds pretty good.

    john December 20, 2006, 4:24 pm
  • SF – spilled my coffee on that one. I wonder if all Japanese players are so frank on things like that..

    Lar December 20, 2006, 4:24 pm
  • John, I cheated. Look at the time and date of my post;)

    Nick-YF December 20, 2006, 4:25 pm
  • well played,sf.
    however it was his left wrist. hideki throws AND tosses righty.

    Yankee Fan In Boston December 20, 2006, 4:25 pm
  • I said YFs are smart.

    john December 20, 2006, 4:45 pm
  • Not sure if this is anything, but John Henry’s plane is on its way back to Boca Raton, FL likely with Henry on it.
    I would find it odd for Henry not to be present for a press conference introducing a high priced free agent signing which could lead to speculation that the Drew deal either might be off, or perhaps we are still several days to weeks away from any kind of conclusion on the matter.
    Any views from you guys?

    TJ Sox Fan December 20, 2006, 5:17 pm
  • Okay, forget those fears of collusion. I hereby renounce my victory. Stanby for a new competition to award the YFSF booty….

    YF December 20, 2006, 5:28 pm
  • how about Name the 2007 Red Sox Closer:)

    TJ Sox Fan December 20, 2006, 5:32 pm
  • I’ve really not seen Henry at many free agent press conferences, TJ. Usually it’s just Tito, Theo, maybe Larry, isn’t it? Matsuzaka was of course a different, um, candy bar.

    Paul SF December 20, 2006, 6:58 pm
  • And the winner of the lottery is:
    The Lottery Commisioner!

    Brad December 20, 2006, 8:10 pm

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